**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed May 08 02:59:56 2019 May 08 16:02:33 U1F61E was added by: U1F61E May 08 21:56:57 Anyone have a desire to devote enough time(20-30 hours a week minimum) to halium 16.0? I have 4 S8's arriving tomorrow and they are not for me they are for people who can convince me they are worth giving a phone to so as to help with halium 16.0? May 08 21:59:38 This is a long term serious commitment if you want me to pay for your device, and I currently only have 4 ordered because I couldn't find any at a sand price beyond the 2 amazon.ca and the 2 amazon.com has for about $450 each May 08 22:00:08 I can test on a 16 device (axon 7) but I don't have much more skill than that May 08 22:29:27 The 2 devices for initial development of 16.0 will be S8 and S9, and I will only be supporting these 2 devices until the two devices are both working enough for aplha builds to be published May 08 22:32:09 By the time 16.0 is finished I 17.0 will probably need to be made, so porting will be left to other devs, aside from development models which I just mentioned. I may work on more ports if 16.0 is stable before 17.0 becomes needed, right now I'm focusing on preparing halium and UT for the future and making sure there is always May 08 22:32:09 support for new devices within a reasonable time frame for a new halium to be built May 08 22:32:55 Thanks to treble 17 shouldn't be too hard after getting 16 working May 08 22:35:42 Yeah, I'm actually working on a python script to strip Android from lineage releases so they are ready to be built into a new halium, and will possibly but not for sure automate the whole process of making a new halium build from a new lineage build. I don't expect the script to make a perfect product which is ready to use, b May 08 22:35:43 ut I intend it to minimize the work needed as much as possible while not breaking anything we need in tact May 08 22:36:52 And @ankaos is working on 15.1 and we've agreed to share our research and techniques and help each other, so that's cool, since it means we won't skip a device ROM version between 7.1 and 16.0 May 09 00:26:17 I would volunteer if I were home more, but life has been ... hectic as of late May 09 00:34:00 Tygerpro do you have a 9.0 device you could use in a smaller amount yourself? THe commitment is only if you want a free phone from me in exchange for contributing May 09 00:34:44 The only devices i have are a galaxy note 4, galaxy note 8, nexus 5, and a LG G Vista May 09 00:34:56 Note 8 runs 9.0 with latest OTA doesn't it? May 09 00:35:38 Yea and Samsung One UI, but it shipped with 7.1.1 May 09 00:36:12 But if there is a 9.0 ROM you can get, then it will work for the purpose May 09 00:36:18 But my note 8 is my current daily and Id rather not have my wife peeved at me May 09 00:36:34 Ahh, understood May 09 00:36:50 Yea the WAF for that is ... not very high May 09 00:37:09 I need to start browsing peoples projects on osdev.org and picking devs based on their own hobby OS May 09 00:38:01 I can help with compiling on my server and providing files but not that much with testing, plus I think my note 8 has a locked bootloader May 09 00:38:33 Not 100% sure though, but Ive seen many reports of it being locked May 09 00:38:36 Well, you can help when you replace the note 8 with something newer, this isn't a project that will be done in 6 months, there's lots of time May 09 00:39:02 Oh, that probably depends on which variant you get May 09 00:39:16 Yea, but I tend to use my devices till they become un-reliable or un-responsive May 09 00:39:35 like samesung USA models are often locked, but candain and internatiional of the same device are unlocked.. it's confusing and illogical imo May 09 00:39:45 I have a snapdragon one, the US only got snapdragon as far as I know May 09 00:39:59 @powderedtoastman9000 [like samesung USA models are often locked, but candain and internatiional of the …], Agree 1000% May 09 00:40:02 Tygerpro understood, not everyone can afford to throw money into a hobby/community based non-profit project May 09 00:41:06 Yeah, I started when my note 4 was my daily, wife constantly got upset about it, then went to a N5 and had connectivity issues with it while I was on the road (Carrier related not device) May 09 00:41:14 that's why I am buying devices to give to devs, but I'm being very selective of who I give them to cause once I ship them I can't take it back if they just disappear or do nothing or are incapable of learning the skills May 09 00:41:48 I wanna learn more about UT and porting, problem is life isnt allowing it right now May 09 00:43:13 Well, you could always just work on app development for now, learn to make webapps and make useful apps... apps are very important to have available, because without a good full useful app market a smart phone platform can not succeed May 09 00:43:17 or learn QML May 09 00:43:48 app development is just as important as every other dev job in the project in my opinion, and web add dev is easy to learn, and there are tools to make it even easier May 09 00:44:33 Like if you can make a useful app that people will use, then you will add a new use to UT phones for users who chose to instlal that app, and if there is not apps to do everything, people won't migrate to UT May 09 00:44:54 and web app dev takes only 6 months to learn part time in community college May 09 00:45:57 Like, you can obviously learn more than a 6 month part time program will teach you, but you just need to know syntax and basics, and the rest you use while referring to documentation when you need to find a way to code something different May 09 00:46:15 app development is one of the most important things for long-term success of UT **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu May 09 02:59:56 2019