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Nov 28 17:01:40 <ant_work> bluelightning: some rough edges in https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/FAQ
Nov 28 17:02:19 <bluelightning> ant_work: what specifically?
Nov 28 17:02:44 <ant_work> one is Q: What is the difference between OpenEmbedded and the Yocto Project?
Nov 28 17:03:57 <ant_work> one other caused a little laugh  "...however, the learning curve for getting started with the Yocto Project is less steep."
Nov 28 17:04:35 <bluelightning> you'd probably need to talk to Jefro about that stuff
Nov 28 17:04:45 <bluelightning> I'm not convinced it's entirely wrong
Nov 28 17:06:12 <ant_work> is it Intel insisting in keeping Poky apart?
Nov 28 17:12:26 <bluelightning> not really, no
Nov 28 17:13:12 <bluelightning> RP is the most vocal and it's somewhat understandable; the build system (Poky) is a component of the Yocto project although it's definitely the main component
Nov 28 17:19:09 <ant_work> I already wrote publicly that while I respect RP work wrt bitbake and OpenEmbedded the truth is Poky is just bitbake+a fork of OpenEmbedded + much work ;)
Nov 28 17:19:40 <ant_work> so in my mid Poky = a distro built using oe and bitbake, much liek Angstrom
Nov 28 17:19:41 <bluelightning> it was, yes
Nov 28 17:19:45 <ant_work> *mind
Nov 28 17:19:58 <bluelightning> now Poky is just bitbake + OE-core + docs + some configuration
Nov 28 17:20:17 <ant_work> indeed a distro
Nov 28 17:20:18 <bluelightning> + meta-yocto which contains the four reference machine BSPs
Nov 28 17:20:34 <ant_work> that's th eblack box
Nov 28 17:20:42 <bluelightning> why is it a black box?
Nov 28 17:20:45 <ant_work> I've never peeked at it
Nov 28 17:20:59 <bluelightning> ok, but you can look inside, hence it's not black :)
Nov 28 17:21:04 <ant_work> just read about linux-yocto, in the hope we can unify soon
Nov 28 17:21:24 <bluelightning> yeah the kernel stuff is a bit more complicated than linux.inc
Nov 28 17:21:42 <bluelightning> I don't think there's any pressure for us to do so within meta-handheld, linux.inc should be fine for us for a while yet
Nov 28 17:21:50 <ant_work> for obsolete machine having a 6 months kernel cycle would be more than ok
Nov 28 17:22:02 <ant_work> less maintenance
Nov 28 17:22:22 <bluelightning> yes, assuming udev and other pieces don't cause trouble in that regard
Nov 28 17:22:33 <ant_work> if we really reach the point 3.x kernels are stable enough I'd switch to that kernel
Nov 28 17:23:06 <ant_work> needs to be tested. I'll have much moretime mid-end decenber
Nov 28 17:24:20 <bluelightning> there's a lot I was hoping to have had time to do with meta-handheld by now... I haven't even touched most of the ipaq machines, they definitely need work
Nov 28 17:24:50 <ant_work> heh, too many...
Nov 28 17:25:19 <ant_work> now, let see the positive note: userland is almost sane :)
Nov 28 17:25:36 <ant_work> is "just" about kernel upgrade
Nov 28 17:28:35 <ant_work> now, to get back on channel topic, I need a tester for tosa image
Nov 28 17:28:50 <ant_work> linux-kexecboot_3.3(.2)
Nov 28 17:28:56 <ant_work> uups.
Nov 28 17:28:59 <ant_work> linux-kexecboot_3.1(.2)
Nov 28 17:29:11 <ant_work> slow down...:)
Nov 28 17:29:53 <ant_work> Jay7: I'll send you one kernel by mail, if you ever have a chance...
Nov 28 17:30:16 <ant_work> bluelightning: pls don't tell me collie won't boot :p
Nov 28 17:30:58 <ant_work> ok, heading home, bbl
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