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Jan 31 21:19:41 <ant_home> bluelightning, omg...sightening of lumag
Jan 31 21:19:55 <bluelightning> hi ant_home
Jan 31 21:20:03 <bluelightning> where?
Jan 31 21:20:08 <ant_home> #oe
Jan 31 21:24:11 <ant_home> bluelightning: I think I'm understanding now how to manage the tasks
Jan 31 21:24:41 <ant_home> it is not clear to me how to output the task dependencies
Jan 31 21:25:04 <ant_home> atm I'm just looking at task.order and listtasks output
Jan 31 21:26:12 <ant_home> I have to say it is not immediately logic how deleting some tasks impact others
Jan 31 21:28:55 <bluelightning> well, one major difference between noexec and deltask is that deltask will rip out the dependencies on that task as well, whereas noexec just makes the task do nothing
Jan 31 21:29:41 <bluelightning> i.e. if you have task A depending on task B that depends on task C, and you deltask B, task C will no longer get run as a dependency of task A
Jan 31 21:30:16 <bluelightning> (well, task C was never a dependency of task A directly, but it won't be in the chain anymore is what I mean, so it may never get run at all)
Jan 31 21:34:35 <ant_home> I have tested that do_install[noexec] must be kept for kernels, otherwisw you don't see strip, sizecheck, staging
Jan 31 21:34:58 <ant_home> it is also true you can readd these tasks...
Jan 31 21:35:38 <ant_home> all the rest in our -kexecboot kernels can be deltask
Jan 31 21:36:19 <ant_home> special case is for mips/vmlinuz/vmlinuz.bin handling, here a task must be added
Jan 31 21:36:31 <ant_home> (as linux-yocto does)
Jan 31 21:36:50 <bluelightning> so why are you making this change?
Jan 31 21:36:59 <bluelightning> noexec isn't going anywhere...
Jan 31 21:37:24 <ant_home> well, first was empty task, then noxec, finally (?) deltask ?
Jan 31 21:37:37 <ant_home> how do we get rid of these tasks?
Jan 31 21:38:05 <bluelightning> you say finally - but I still don't get what's pushing this change?
Jan 31 21:38:08 <ant_home> it is rather annoying that after defining PACKAGES = "" we still have to delete all packaging tasks...
Jan 31 21:38:27 <bluelightning> we have a class for that - inherit nopackage
Jan 31 21:38:28 <ant_home> I see oe-core has a couple of commits replacing
Jan 31 21:38:52 <ant_home> idea is to run less tasks
Jan 31 21:38:59 <bluelightning> actually, nopackages
Jan 31 21:39:10 <bluelightning> that does do deltask
Jan 31 21:39:12 <ant_home> hm.. need to check that
Jan 31 21:39:30 <bluelightning> the advantage being that class gets updated if we change the packaging task structure
Jan 31 21:40:49 <ant_home> see, the fundamental issue is that building two kernels is not as before
Jan 31 21:41:23 <ant_home> so for our purposes we just need the artifacts in deploydir, not the packages
Jan 31 21:42:01 <bluelightning> ah, right
Jan 31 21:42:10 <ant_home> and to not harm the shared kernel-source we don't nstall anything
Jan 31 21:42:33 <ant_home> but it is still corrupted / racing during build
Jan 31 21:42:58 <ant_home> i. e. build of linux-kexecboot fails if linux-handheld was not built before
Jan 31 21:43:17 <ant_home> it tries to build it parallely and fails/races
Jan 31 21:43:35 <ant_home> but this is a separate issue
Jan 31 21:43:42 <bluelightning> don't you just need a specific task dependency to fix that?
Jan 31 21:43:45 <ant_home> for now, let just build kernel properly :)
Jan 31 21:43:52 <ant_home> hm..
Jan 31 21:45:07 <ant_home> I think there is a new virtual/kernel: do_xx dep
Jan 31 21:45:53 <ant_home> smthg like the one in image.bbclass
Jan 31 21:45:56 <ant_home> do_build[depends] += "virtual/kernel:do_deploy"
Jan 31 21:46:18 <ant_home> that's why I'm wondering how to visualize the task dependencies
Jan 31 21:46:50 <ant_home> I'm slowly catching up with the changes to the classes
Jan 31 21:46:53 <ant_home> :)
Jan 31 21:51:01 <ant_home> bluelightning, anyway, once you push meta-handheld, let's discuss these two
Jan 31 21:51:03 <ant_home> http://pastebin.com/U29LK5Gj
Jan 31 21:52:54 <bluelightning> ok, will try to do that tonight
Jan 31 21:52:57 <bluelightning> thanks
Jan 31 21:53:19 <ant_home> so, if you see a way to remove all that packaging stuff...thanks
Jan 31 21:53:55 <bluelightning> I would strongly recommend inherit nopackages
Jan 31 21:54:32 <ant_home> I can test it right now
Jan 31 21:58:04 <ant_home> bluelightning, after this round of (build) fixes there are the staging fixe for sstate rebuilds...
Jan 31 21:58:21 <ant_home> there I see light...
Jan 31 21:59:00 <ant_home> I mean, with recipe specific sysroot the tricky klcc-cross mangling could be removed (I think)
Jan 31 21:59:35 <ant_home> then we need to fix the simple recipes like zaurus updater just staging a file
Jan 31 21:59:51 <ant_home> these fails from sstate as it was last week
Jan 31 22:00:56 <ant_home> bluelightning, nopackages rulez
Jan 31 22:01:09 <ant_home> let me retry...
Jan 31 22:01:33 <bluelightning> hmm, sstate rebuilds shouldn't be any different now with recipe specific sysroots
Jan 31 22:01:53 <bluelightning> well, actually that may not be the case
Jan 31 22:03:33 <ant_home> in our case recipe A wraps-up the artifacts of B from staging dir
Jan 31 22:06:04 <ant_home> ok, retested and wonderful
Jan 31 22:06:05 <ant_home>  # disable unneeded tasks
Jan 31 22:06:06 <ant_home>  do_install[noexec] = "1"
Jan 31 22:06:06 <ant_home>  deltask do_shared_workdir
Jan 31 22:06:06 <ant_home> -deltask do_package
Jan 31 22:06:06 <ant_home> -deltask do_package_qa
Jan 31 22:06:07 <ant_home> -deltask do_packagedata
Jan 31 22:06:09 <ant_home> -deltask do_package_deb
Jan 31 22:06:11 <ant_home> -deltask do_package_ipk
Jan 31 22:06:13 <ant_home> -deltask do_package_rpm
Jan 31 22:06:15 <ant_home> -deltask do_package_tar
Jan 31 22:06:17 <ant_home> -deltask do_package_write_deb
Jan 31 22:06:19 <ant_home> -deltask do_package_write_ipk
Jan 31 22:06:21 <ant_home> -deltask do_package_write_rpm
Jan 31 22:06:23 <ant_home> -deltask do_package_write_tar
Jan 31 22:06:27 <ant_home>  deltask do_populate_sysroot
Jan 31 22:06:29 <ant_home> +
Jan 31 22:06:31 <ant_home> +inherit nopackages
Jan 31 22:06:36 <ant_home> my bad for ignoring it up to now :/
Jan 31 22:18:29 <ant_home> bluelightning, I've added the last patches on the top
Jan 31 22:18:31 <ant_home> https://github.com/LinuxPDA/meta-handheld/commits/master
Jan 31 22:18:48 <ant_home> pls take your time, I'll be away till monday
Jan 31 23:36:50 <ant_home> bluelightning, last news after pull of today
Jan 31 23:36:54 <ant_home> | configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
Jan 31 23:37:05 <ant_home> heh, will see next week
Jan 31 23:37:10 <ant_home> good night
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