**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Feb 14 03:00:03 2017 Feb 14 08:15:06 ant_work: ArchLinuxArm builds will come with a generic kernel, but in my experience you better compile your own. Feb 14 08:17:57 * greguu has custom kernels for SailfishOS on a Nexus 5, AmLogic S905 TV box (libreelec) and the C3x00 ALARM kernel. The rest runs stock Arch or Alpine kernels. I miss sometimes the gentoo times ... wonder why I do not move all to gentoo Feb 14 08:18:08 hi greguu, ant Feb 14 08:18:31 VartiWork: Hello! Feb 14 08:19:11 * greguu is impressed with the notification bell of terminology term while using weechat in a ssh session Feb 14 08:20:41 huh... do you mean that weechat produces a sound everytime a specific word is typed? Feb 14 08:21:19 well, only since using terminology as a terminal, others did not do the audible bell thing. Feb 14 08:23:06 maybe I am getting old Feb 14 08:23:15 ah... terminology = a terminal emulator, now I got it Feb 14 08:23:32 "Terminology is a terminal emulator for Linux/BSD/UNIX etc. systems that uses EFL and has a whole bunch of bells and whistles" bells, quite literally :) Feb 14 08:23:54 * VartiWork is stuck using a webchat at work Feb 14 08:25:46 webchat is not too bad, at least https Feb 14 08:26:12 whats happeing on OESF ? not much posts anymore.. Feb 14 08:27:13 indeed, and it's my fault too, I couldn't dedicate much time to my Z, it has been a hell of a month last January for me Feb 14 08:27:54 every day at least one of my kids was sick and couldn't sleep at night Feb 14 08:27:56 I will attempt another rootfs and kernel once 4.10 is released. Feb 14 08:28:20 that's great to hear Feb 14 08:28:51 at least I have managed to check my 1GB SD card using an utility I found, no errors found there Feb 14 08:29:22 You still had no luck booting Arch on Akita ? Feb 14 08:29:39 nope, but due to lack of time :( Feb 14 08:30:07 This is one thing I like to get sorted, just I do not have one. Feb 14 08:30:43 I got a new CF card 8 GB , still have not replaced it with the CF drive. I guess I just use it in the second slot Feb 14 08:30:48 I will manage to do this sooner or later, I promise Feb 14 08:30:59 nice Feb 14 08:31:32 a real CF or an SD with a CF adapter? Feb 14 08:31:41 no it is a real one. Feb 14 08:31:43 found 3 infected files on oesf, but it seems there's at least one remaining Feb 14 08:32:03 (and got rid of the malware) Feb 14 08:32:27 What is the GPD win hype doing ? I guess this device sucks due to the cheap smart phone LCD and the rotated framebuffer Feb 14 08:32:56 I have read some worrying posts on other forums of people getting mad at the build quality Feb 14 08:33:21 mainly keyboards not working anymore Feb 14 08:33:41 I wonder if ant_work has some new kexecboot builds for akita that may help you to boot arch. Feb 14 08:33:43 well, this is not unexpected unfortunately Feb 14 08:34:41 I thought this device was no good from the beginning, once the reports of the rotated framebuffer emerged. Same on the Zaurus, this has a big performance impact if not done in hardware. Feb 14 08:34:52 I was fearing that those problems would arise, since the gpd comes from a chinese manufacturer, althought it is said that the latest batch has a better keyboard Feb 14 08:35:40 I believe the rotation problem is only sw related (=proper support by the used distro), isn't it? Feb 14 08:35:53 I wonder what will happen to sharp since it is now in chinese hands. No more clamshell handhelds. Feb 14 08:37:34 the screen is a smartphone screen, eg portrait mode, that means the framebuffer / gpu needs to rotate it, in hardware there is no performance impact, but if running with fbdev on linux, due to lack of driver, there is a big impact Feb 14 08:38:13 what I could see the devices running linux on the gpd win used fbdev and software rotation Feb 14 08:39:13 no idea... maybe they will anyway come up with a new clamshell, afterall Lineo has recently joined Yocto :P (just kidding, it's most probably unrelated) Feb 14 08:39:28 There used to be a iwmmxt improved fbedv rotation for the Zaurus, I wonder where that went.. Feb 14 08:41:14 how much is the GPU on the GDP supported by the Linux driver? i.e. only FB support, or more? Feb 14 08:42:00 I remember that driver, it was used on OZ and Cacko isn't it? Feb 14 08:42:17 With a custom kernel you probably get the full HW support, but the reports and youtube videos just used outdated ubuntu, mint or else that did not have the driver for bay trail Feb 14 08:43:18 hmm, there was a link floating around of a chinese page with a specific baytrail distro, don't know if it works on the gdp Feb 14 08:43:30 thus these were only fbdev and sw rotation Feb 14 08:43:46 it would be nice if someone would make a specific distro for it Feb 14 08:44:13 but not enough interest I fear Feb 14 08:44:57 just a kernel would be fine, and archlinux or else Feb 14 08:46:01 as much as I like to have a Zaurus replacement, no new product has convinced me yet. Feb 14 08:46:17 same here Feb 14 08:46:50 there have been many candidates in the past, but all of them have quickly faded out Feb 14 08:48:13 so, the next one will be the Pyra, we'll see how it will perform Feb 14 08:49:18 btw, do you (or ant_work) happen to have a local mirror of the OpenZaurus feed? there's a guy on oesf asking for it, and I wanted to archive it somewhere Feb 14 08:52:29 not me Feb 14 08:57:30 https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/threads/news-from-the-meeting-at-gc.79729/page-6#post-1405210 Feb 14 08:58:04 (though on the photo that Z is running Cacko) Feb 14 09:01:37 graalphone http://o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/midas/72efe5693455a507d692d7bfb5891e23/204792171/5.jpg Feb 14 09:02:49 hey hey Feb 14 09:03:53 http://www.graalphone.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/tablet-graalphone2-1.png Feb 14 09:04:04 not sure what this will be Feb 14 09:04:46 or never be Feb 14 09:04:56 "as Sascha Segan from TheVerge found out from a sitdown with Raoul Parienti (the man behind GraalPhone), the device is trying to get the attention from a manufacturer that could produce it, which might not happen at all. " Feb 14 09:05:48 lol, french effort Feb 14 09:06:37 not very convincing Feb 14 09:06:54 looks more sturdy than the GDP Feb 14 09:07:06 although thos pics might be actually just renders Feb 14 09:07:42 true, good concept but.... may never happen Feb 14 09:07:45 ah, they actually have a prototype at CES: https://liliputing.com/2017/01/graalphone-concept-modular-smartphone-laptop-tablet-3d-camera.html Feb 14 09:08:20 "but there’s also a hole in the case so that when the Android phone is inserted, you have a dual-lens camera system, allowing you to take stereoscopic 3D images." Feb 14 09:08:35 huh? so the phone part is a separate module? Feb 14 09:09:01 seems so: https://i2.wp.com/liliputing.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/graalphone_06.jpg?fit=680%2C470&ssl=1 Feb 14 09:09:02 yes, and the prototype did not have anything on the display ? Feb 14 09:09:54 just an empty shell ? Feb 14 09:10:36 yes, most probably Feb 14 09:10:45 well, I guess a 5-6" phone running sailfishOS in a clamshell model would be awesome Feb 14 09:11:27 I remember you were telling me good things about Sailfish, I haven't used it yet Feb 14 09:12:02 I like it on my Nexus 5, pretty good OS, simple , works Feb 14 09:12:28 just a keyboard and I would port apps / games to it Feb 14 09:12:32 anyway, the Graalphone is an interesting concept, ought to post this on oesf, thanks for the heads up Feb 14 09:12:48 no worries Feb 14 09:13:10 make a Sailfish Zaurus port then hehe Feb 14 09:13:40 (I don't think it would support at all any armv5 CPU) Feb 14 09:14:15 true, I tried an early Android port on the Z and it was a pain Feb 14 09:14:40 even my Nokia N9 is armv7 Feb 14 09:15:13 I have a bad feeling about armvt5tel support.. may die a slow death in the linux world Feb 14 09:16:28 You can get a Nexus 5 for very cheap second hand, a new touch screen and frame is just $30-50. Good fone, just do not sit on it Feb 14 09:17:55 let me know when you find some time to test a kexexboot for akita, as we need to get this sorted, I hope ant can help, too. Feb 14 09:23:05 ok Feb 14 09:23:32 I'd like to see it sorted too :) Feb 14 10:43:19 finally found a working feed containing openzaurus and many other roms: http://feed.zaurusfr.org/ **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Feb 15 03:00:01 2017