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Jun 29 07:57:14 <greguu> ant_work: 4.14.50 works fine so far. now voidz also has a repo and kernel updates via the repo
Jun 29 07:57:30 <ant_work> nice
Jun 29 07:58:11 <ant_work> I'll push it for meta-handheld. 4.4.xxx is also ok
Jun 29 07:59:14 <ant_work> but didn't build with gcc8 last time I tried
Jun 29 08:01:35 <greguu> never tried gcc8 so far
Jun 29 08:01:59 <greguu> being a bit conservative in regards to toolchains and gcc
Jun 29 08:02:07 <greguu> for good reason
Jun 29 08:02:10 <greguu> https://github.com/greguu/voidz-packages/tree/3e392e35d9513434aa18dc9aaeb68230c6e66d89/srcpkgs/linux4.14-zaurus
Jun 29 08:02:18 <greguu> this is the latest for C3x00
Jun 29 08:02:42 <greguu> I really like void xbps-src tool
Jun 29 08:03:20 <greguu> bitbake/oe is more capable I am sure, but xbps-src just rocks and is so easy
Jun 29 08:13:45 <ant_work> apart this, we must verify what's happened with regulators/gpio in 4.17/4.18
Jun 29 08:14:20 <ant_work> I bet it is like with spi, a one-liner...
Jun 29 08:15:02 <ant_work> or maybe we are expected to adapt the Kconfig...attention upstream is only for multimachine configs
Jun 29 08:16:39 <ant_work> like Robert said, there is a 'cursed' patchset still ongoing since long
Jun 29 08:17:03 <ant_work> I see big changes for DMA again
Jun 29 08:22:46 <greguu> oh. I hoped the outstanding issues get fixed first, before we embark on mainstream madness, but I guess that how we have to roll
Jun 29 08:23:56 <greguu> 4.14 seems to be a safe haven atm
Jun 29 08:24:35 <greguu> but as you can see the patches I had to apply... we are far from proper mainstream support
Jun 29 08:25:59 <greguu> I guess we need to catch up with pcmcia and gpio
Jun 29 08:27:15 <greguu> not tried 4.16+. so I may do if I find the time
Jun 29 08:27:25 <greguu> but gpio was broken already..
Jun 29 08:27:39 <greguu> 4.16 had power mgmnt issues
Jun 29 08:28:14 <greguu> seems we are loosing control ;) oh no, what to do ?
Jun 29 08:28:17 <greguu> lol
Jun 29 08:33:21 <VartiWork> I always wonder if there's anyone at Sharp that knows that their Zaurus models are still being supported in mainline Linux kernel
Jun 29 08:35:32 <greguu> not sure, Sharp has moved on since then.. the "guys" working on the Zaurus may be working elsewhere now.. but yes, good question
Jun 29 08:35:46 <greguu> https://forum.voidlinux.eu/t/void-linux-on-sharp-zaurus-c3x00-series/5589/3
Jun 29 08:37:04 <greguu> the zipit is still alive too, albeit not as old as the zaurus
Jun 29 08:38:03 <VartiWork> yes, indeed
Jun 29 08:38:55 <VartiWork> it would be nice to know some of the old engineers who worked on that
Jun 29 08:39:43 <VartiWork> to know also if there has been any prototype of the SL-C3500, and what would have it been nicknamed
Jun 29 08:44:02 <greguu> there was another Sharp PDA after the Zaurus series with Linux..
Jun 29 08:44:11 <greguu> forgot the name
Jun 29 08:44:53 <greguu> I saw it in 2009 in Australia, a japanese backpacker had one
Jun 29 08:45:14 <greguu> it ran ubuntu I think
Jun 29 08:47:14 <greguu> netwalker
Jun 29 08:47:35 <VartiWork> yes
Jun 29 08:47:46 <VartiWork> totally different project I guess
Jun 29 08:47:48 <greguu> hard to find, I like to have one
Jun 29 08:48:33 <greguu> I "guess" this was done by the same team that did the zaurus..
Jun 29 08:48:58 <greguu> after that Sharp switched to Android
Jun 29 08:49:11 <VartiWork> I still need to find a recovery ISO image for the netwalker which was essential, I found a copy of it on archive.org for an user, forgot to store it myself, it was then gone
Jun 29 08:49:33 <greguu> hm, check jp ebay
Jun 29 08:49:37 <VartiWork> if I remember correctly, it lacked gfx acceleration under Linux
Jun 29 08:49:45 <greguu> may be able to get a pristine new one
Jun 29 08:49:59 <VartiWork> so videos never ran that much smooth
Jun 29 08:50:29 <greguu> it had the same issue as the zaurus, rotated screen, in software
Jun 29 08:57:28 <greguu> VartiWork. ant_work, not sure where you live in Italy, but if you like electronic music...
Jun 29 08:57:31 <greguu> https://www.songkick.com/festivals/2362804-acusmatiq/id/33711554-acusmatiq-2018?utm_source=3351&utm_medium=partner
Jun 29 08:57:52 <greguu> https://www.songkick.com/concerts/33711604-candie-hank-at-barracuda-summer-fun-beach?utm_source=3351&utm_medium=partner
Jun 29 08:58:11 <greguu> I would love to go..
Jun 29 08:58:17 <greguu> just too far for me
Jun 29 08:58:38 <VartiWork> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkfa3XESaJc
Jun 29 08:59:39 <VartiWork> not my type of music, but I'm very picky regarding music
Jun 29 08:59:59 <VartiWork> Ancona is like 4-5 hrs from my home
Jun 29 09:00:45 <greguu> well, I just like the artist linked, not sure abot the whole lineup..
Jun 29 09:01:09 <greguu> s/abot/about
Jun 29 09:02:11 <VartiWork> the second city is quite far :)
Jun 29 09:04:33 <VartiWork> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLQoClLeMak
Jun 29 09:05:34 <VartiWork> I have attended that same concert 2 years ago, in Slovenia, it was something I wanted to do since I was a teenager
Jun 29 09:15:52 <greguu> hm.I doubt they make it to the southern hemisphere
Jun 29 09:18:31 <VartiWork> jarre has never toured there, unfortunately
Jun 29 09:18:39 <VartiWork> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jean-Michel_Jarre_concerts
Jun 29 09:19:08 <greguu> talking about music, Omegamoon must be a real Thunderdome fan..
Jun 29 09:20:31 <greguu> btw I impressed some work mates with the gemini, showing citrix reciever and running outlook 2007 and rdtp to 2003 servers
Jun 29 09:20:42 <greguu> lol
Jun 29 09:21:33 <VartiWork> Thunderdome as the music festival?
Jun 29 09:21:57 <Omegamoon> greguu, whaaaat? Thunderdome, really??
Jun 29 09:22:09 <VartiWork> hehe you summoned him
Jun 29 09:22:14 <Omegamoon> yech :-$
Jun 29 09:22:27 * VartiWork coughs with all this smoke around him
Jun 29 09:24:31 <greguu> haha
Jun 29 09:24:38 <greguu> I loved it back in the 90s
Jun 29 09:24:49 <Omegamoon> I'll visit these guys in 2 weeks time
Jun 29 09:24:51 <Omegamoon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3028oDEKZo4
Jun 29 09:25:43 <greguu> oh man, that is real orchestral
Jun 29 09:26:17 <greguu> not bad in any way
Jun 29 09:28:00 <Omegamoon> my wife is allergic to this kind of music :P
Jun 29 09:31:00 <VartiWork> I'm a progressive-era Genesis fan
Jun 29 09:32:24 <VartiWork> my wife also doesn't like the music I like, except for a couple of K-Pop songs which she likes to listen to
Jun 29 09:32:41 <Omegamoon> Vartiwork, the times of Peter Gabriel?
Jun 29 09:33:03 <VartiWork> yes
Jun 29 09:33:49 <VartiWork> Selling England, Foxtrot and Nursery Crime
Jun 29 09:36:00 <Omegamoon> you know "Security Project"?
Jun 29 09:43:44 <Omegamoon> VartiWork, the "Live1" album of "The Security Project" is worth it... give it a try if you like Gabriel :)
Jun 29 09:45:35 <greguu> ha, I "have" to listen to music with headphones, otherwise I get stabbed by my "wife"
Jun 29 09:45:37 <greguu> lol
Jun 29 09:46:16 <greguu> she bought the quite expensive headphones for me though :)
Jun 29 09:46:52 <greguu> it seems this is a common issue in relationships
Jun 29 09:47:12 <VartiWork> I prefer when Gabriel did progressive stuff...
Jun 29 09:48:06 <VartiWork> greguu: yes, I believe so... it is anyway very difficult to find two people with the same musical taste
Jun 29 09:51:01 <greguu> she likes jpop and Jack Johnson, I like chiptunes and 90s rap
Jun 29 10:00:12 <VartiWork> greguu: Perfume's songs have lots of chip samples in them
Jun 29 10:06:55 * ant_work silently brought two vintage racks è speakers at home. WAF has been good
Jun 29 10:10:00 <ant_work> I am a bit older so I space from late '60 up to end '70. In the '80 I did listen to afro/funky/electronic as well
Jun 29 10:10:35 <ant_work> I still have Jarre, Klaus Schulze and other rare gems
Jun 29 10:11:25 <ant_work> casually I was involved in music production early '90 with undegrgound/dance
Jun 29 10:11:39 <ant_work> ..and I still have 20kg of midi rack to sell oneday
Jun 30 02:05:43 <greguu> ant_home: just a thought, I did compile using -0s instead of -02 and this may disabled some features...
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