**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Aug 02 02:59:57 2007 Aug 02 02:59:58 and because I couldn't sleep Aug 02 02:59:59 majong and marbles are great Aug 02 03:00:22 NeoStrider: i looked at marbles - that's how sdl apps should all work Aug 02 03:00:34 yeah...but did you saw its code? Aug 02 03:00:37 no Aug 02 03:00:47 must be dreadful =-P Aug 02 03:01:02 maemo-games-startup only gives us the kickstart Aug 02 03:01:10 ah ok Aug 02 03:01:12 designing something to be D-Bus aware is not trivial Aug 02 03:01:38 one thing about the xsp - i have no problems with the menu button when my xsp window is on the left - then the menu never overdraws onto screen Aug 02 03:02:16 hum....nice solution heheh Aug 02 03:02:18 so if you have a 320x240 xsp window on the left side, you have no problems Aug 02 03:02:33 I will try this, then Aug 02 03:03:23 * NeoStrider scratches his forehead before CLISP... Aug 02 03:03:48 run away from lisp Aug 02 03:03:57 im actually implementing it Aug 02 03:04:08 LOGO is lisp in a more pleasant lexical Aug 02 03:04:23 and I actually like lisp Aug 02 03:04:33 implementing it for what? Aug 02 03:04:37 lisp is love :) Aug 02 03:05:42 i had a university course using scheme, and it was good education Aug 02 03:06:08 theefer, LOGO as the scripting language for my game engine Aug 02 03:06:13 lisp is beautifull Aug 02 03:06:19 pupnik: based on the purple book? Aug 02 03:06:25 but can be moody just like a beautiful woman Aug 02 03:06:41 pupnik, DrScheme is your friend Aug 02 03:06:59 and you sir, need a girlfriend Aug 02 03:07:00 LOGO make this charming moody lady more family friendly Aug 02 03:07:03 yes purple book :( Aug 02 03:07:06 :) Aug 02 03:07:06 hahhahah Aug 02 03:07:40 pupnik: nice, best IT book I've ever read (I still need to get myself AoCP..) Aug 02 03:07:56 I like Cormen... Aug 02 03:08:40 looks good too.. Aug 02 03:09:42 I've got to admit Aug 02 03:09:53 I learned C++ from "Borland C++ for dummies" hahah Aug 02 03:10:18 yes theefer you read purple book, you study data structures, algorithms, operating systems - and then you get a job programming visual basic Aug 02 03:10:38 well some of us Aug 02 03:11:31 nice NeoStrider - i bought the issue of Creative Computing magazine with the first borland advertisement :) Aug 02 03:11:39 he made a better pascal compiler than ibm Aug 02 03:11:44 wow! Aug 02 03:12:11 pupnik, about VB...maybe I got just a little lucky on that: XSLT Aug 02 03:12:17 you know it? Aug 02 03:12:35 pupnik: I'd rather clean the streets than code in VB for money :p Aug 02 03:13:22 theefer : isnt it the same thing? Aug 02 03:14:11 No, on involves playing around with poo, and the other requires you to be outside. Aug 02 03:14:42 hahaahah Aug 02 03:14:56 * theefer is off to lunch Aug 02 03:15:03 but both requires messing around with thing nobody wants anymore Aug 02 03:18:40 brb...gotta take a shower Aug 02 03:32:19 sent you an email unique311. Took me a while to figure out how to fix it, but those instructions should help. Aug 02 03:34:40 k Aug 02 03:35:01 trevarthan, did you notice the pink pixels i was talking about Aug 02 03:38:45 k got the email. Aug 02 03:38:52 work on that 2morrow. Aug 02 03:40:15 trevarthan: hey Aug 02 03:40:29 read the log, also ks's smartsprite class and all that Aug 02 03:40:56 unique311? Aug 02 03:41:21 ya Aug 02 03:42:41 was you who asked for a pacman,right? Aug 02 03:43:04 yesterday Aug 02 03:43:12 yeah Aug 02 03:43:18 i tried compile njam.. Aug 02 03:43:20 no go Aug 02 03:43:31 to possibilities here Aug 02 03:43:32 pacman-10 no go Aug 02 03:43:41 1) one made with my game engine: BZK Aug 02 03:43:52 2) one made on javascript Aug 02 03:44:26 1 depends on me finishing the scripting language or figuring out how to make it easily on C++ (not hard, but takes some time) Aug 02 03:44:40 2 depends on my learing js and the controls being good Aug 02 03:44:48 unique311: can you paste the error you had with njam? Aug 02 03:44:52 it worked fine here Aug 02 03:45:16 i guess 1 will be faster Aug 02 03:45:18 no errors...compiled Aug 02 03:45:20 (of course njam does not play like pac man) Aug 02 03:45:22 but segfault Aug 02 03:45:22 ahh Aug 02 03:45:34 been getting lots of segfaults in scratchbox Aug 02 03:45:38 not sure why Aug 02 03:45:41 strange... Aug 02 03:45:45 get me this njam code Aug 02 03:45:54 apt-get source njam Aug 02 03:46:00 pupnik compiled it.. Aug 02 03:46:04 said its working Aug 02 03:46:22 but maps are 800x600 Aug 02 03:46:34 yeah http://pupnik.de/njam_1.25-3_armel.deb Aug 02 03:46:40 just needs smaller tiles, or smaller maps Aug 02 03:47:01 btw, xmame sucks Aug 02 03:47:10 no offense Aug 02 03:47:14 E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/repository.maemo.org_dists_gregale_free_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory) Aug 02 03:47:14 =-( Aug 02 03:47:15 keyboard configu problems? Aug 02 03:47:31 xmame can't play newer games - only the real old ones Aug 02 03:47:44 you mean the good ones? =-P Aug 02 03:47:44 figured that out. Aug 02 03:47:53 gravitar, spacewar, joust, robotron are the real good ones! Aug 02 03:48:00 tempest!!! 8-)~ Aug 02 03:48:17 tempest needs the wheel imo Aug 02 03:48:31 s/8-)/8-O/ Aug 02 03:48:31 NeoStrider meant: tempest!!! 8-O~ Aug 02 03:49:03 and tempest should be very playable on that dpad Aug 02 03:49:10 njam will do with the fix for maps.. Aug 02 03:55:15 GIVE US A BETTER DPAD NOKIA! Aug 02 03:56:51 calm down, pupnik Aug 02 03:57:09 the tablets were not even designed for it Aug 02 03:57:33 we're lucky they are f*cking great as a gaming plataform , from the software point of view Aug 02 03:59:17 mh, is it possible to record video using the N800 embedded camera? Aug 02 03:59:53 yes with a 3rd party app Aug 02 03:59:58 otherwise, no Aug 02 04:00:27 3rd party and closed-source, or free? Aug 02 04:01:20 open, I guess Aug 02 04:01:24 its @ garage Aug 02 04:01:32 they released a new version this days Aug 02 04:07:53 ncurses-bin broken Aug 02 04:20:29 I feel bad Aug 02 04:20:32 go to go Aug 02 04:20:34 get some sleep Aug 02 04:27:21 it's fun to port stuff to the tablets but it sure as hell isn't fun to play anything on them Aug 02 04:27:43 yup Aug 02 04:37:36 hey unique311 i'm happy though - the sound modules compiled for pcsx - all i need is the iso/cdrom loader and the input plugin now Aug 02 04:38:20 more than halfway there to the 30 frame-per-minute playstation emulator :) Aug 02 04:39:09 30 Aug 02 04:39:13 1 Aug 02 04:39:55 nah i bet we'll get at least 30 frames per minute Aug 02 04:42:20 k Aug 02 04:42:22 hey unique311 did you see that people are starting to run ps2 games? Aug 02 04:43:01 it's still really early - will be a couple years before it's solid Aug 02 04:44:29 but right now is the time when you can find ps2 full versions in the magazine shelves for a couple of bucks Aug 02 04:49:07 going to get an iphone... Aug 02 04:49:14 my contract is up with sprint Aug 02 04:49:21 anyone using a 770 with the gregale repos? Aug 02 04:50:09 only libc6 there has a bash-ist postinst Aug 02 04:50:19 and I really don't want to go there Aug 02 04:51:30 not unless it is now the "done thing" Aug 02 05:03:59 long version: I want to install + run kagu, but have got in a long saga of installing python2.5, and now find that having installed the gregale repo, and upgrade gives a new libc, which has a postinst that uses /bin/bash Aug 02 05:06:56 having problems with ncurse bin. Aug 02 05:07:08 its showing up in app manager that it is install.. Aug 02 05:07:14 but with errrors Aug 02 05:07:28 i'm guessing because the icons is red with ! in it Aug 02 05:07:42 do you have xterm installed? Aug 02 05:07:55 now apt-get tells me the way to fix is to apt-get -f install Aug 02 05:08:06 i tried that and it still gives me errors Aug 02 05:08:08 saying Aug 02 05:08:52 errors were encountered while processing Aug 02 05:09:13 var/lib/''/''/ncureses-bin''''' Aug 02 05:09:23 var/lib/''/''/ncurses-bin''''' Aug 02 05:11:03 what's the exact full error message? Aug 02 05:11:22 this is on my device.. Aug 02 05:11:25 its long Aug 02 05:11:30 let me pastebin Aug 02 05:15:03 http://pastebin.ca/642663 Aug 02 05:16:43 hey all Aug 02 05:21:31 unique311: the "serious warning" is not a good sign -- have you had a "disk full" at some point while manipulating packages? Aug 02 05:21:59 cos something looks to have got screwed up somehow Aug 02 05:22:06 no Aug 02 05:22:22 ncurses-bin screwed it up. Aug 02 05:22:44 i remember reading it was broken after getting the unable to install error Aug 02 05:23:01 but when i got that error, i thought it didn't install it Aug 02 05:23:06 i was wrong Aug 02 05:23:15 well, /usr/bin/clear is listed as being part of busybox, and the new package is trying to divert it Aug 02 05:23:35 it installed something that kept it as being installed Aug 02 05:23:36 when divert fails, it just says "uh-oh, can't do this because I conflict with busybox" I think Aug 02 05:24:10 when things break on install it's usually the postinst script being screwy, which means that the package is installed but not fully configured Aug 02 05:25:33 i found 1 file from the package ncurses-bin Aug 02 05:25:37 installed Aug 02 05:25:41 thats it Aug 02 05:26:09 suppose to install i think 10 Aug 02 05:26:54 clear is an ncurses-bin item Aug 02 05:29:24 unique311: yes, but it seems that the file list for the old version has gone awol, it doesn't know that Aug 02 05:29:34 and it's also in busybox, so it's getting confused Aug 02 05:31:42 actually clear is not in /usr/bin/ Aug 02 05:31:43 <_Monkey> Hmm. No matches for that, unique311. Aug 02 05:32:18 going to install it manually Aug 02 05:32:26 and see if divert plays nice Aug 02 05:35:13 best bet might be to check what divert thinks is where Aug 02 05:35:28 then if it is confused, fix it Aug 02 05:35:42 where is divert located? Aug 02 05:36:30 which may involve removing ncurses-bin completely, making sure diversion is consistent, then installing new version of ncurses-bin Aug 02 05:36:58 its not installed Aug 02 05:37:06 not at all? Aug 02 05:37:11 i tried dpkg --purge Aug 02 05:37:20 and it said package is not installed Aug 02 05:37:22 at all Aug 02 05:37:23 since that error you pasted? Aug 02 05:37:37 but then app manager shows it as being installed Aug 02 05:37:40 cos at that point something thinks it is installed Aug 02 05:39:16 isn't there a way to forcefully remove apps with apt Aug 02 05:39:34 use dpkg Aug 02 05:39:50 purge Aug 02 05:39:55 i tried that already Aug 02 05:39:58 remove it with dpkg and apt should know it's gone Aug 02 05:40:05 yes, so something got left behind Aug 02 05:40:47 you're probably best off trying to find someone who knows apt/dpkg a bit better than I do to work out what is confusing it Aug 02 05:41:05 what does dpkg -s ncurses-bin say? Aug 02 05:42:54 not installed no info is available Aug 02 05:45:06 OK, so dpkg is convinced it's gone but something else thinks it is still there Aug 02 05:45:19 sorry I have to go now, but I'm probably not the best person to help anyway... Aug 02 05:45:22 so good luck I guess Aug 02 05:46:07 k Aug 02 05:46:10 thanks Aug 02 05:58:14 got it Aug 02 05:58:17 finally Aug 02 05:58:30 dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq ncurses-bin Aug 02 05:58:38 that was the command that help Aug 02 05:59:37 found it on a here http://forum.ixbt.com/topic.cgi?id=45:8537-59 Aug 02 06:07:09 finally fixed my apt-get. Aug 02 06:07:14 feels good Aug 02 06:19:58 timeless, sure, the memmove could be moved outside the for-loop, but imo it's clearer that way, and the function overhead shouldn't be that large Aug 02 06:24:53 timeless, my patch is now in svn (on stage) Aug 02 07:39:02 Hi to all Aug 02 08:30:28 good morning Aug 02 08:46:44 hello all, anyone care to tell me what's happening with HildonNamePasswordDialog in the new haf? the only widget that seems to come close is HildonGetPasswordDialog but i want to ask for the user name as well, of course. Aug 02 09:24:37 morning Aug 02 09:24:38 <_Monkey> aloha Aug 02 09:25:50 _Monkey: example? Aug 02 09:25:50 <_Monkey> disq: no idea Aug 02 09:27:59 * lardman has more python questions Aug 02 09:28:42 I'm after a scrollable widget to display results of calculations. I was using a TreeView, but I can't seem to get any click events out of it (may be my ineptitude) Aug 02 09:29:16 disq: yesterday, if you'll remember, i complained about my app not minimizing to the task navigator. i forgot to mention it happened on an oldie N770. this morning i another simple app of mine that didn't osso_initialize() at all. conversely it *did* minimize correctly on N800 (and failed on N770). does this information bring something in your mind? Aug 02 09:29:41 770 firmware could be very very old? nothing else comes to mind Aug 02 09:30:03 I was then looking at a table, with buttons for the equation and result, but can't seem to get that to update dynamically. Anyone have a recommendation for which way to proceed, so I don't waste time with something that won't work? Aug 02 09:30:48 hi!, is there a public svn where kernel used by maemo is developed? Aug 02 09:31:09 disq: uname tells me it's not a year old (Nov 2006) Aug 02 09:32:15 weird Aug 02 09:33:54 Hi everyone. Do someone of you know, where i can get the libsmm package for nokia n800? thanks for response Aug 02 09:36:22 Iserlohner, do you mean the hildon-libsmm? Aug 02 09:37:18 yes Aug 02 09:38:53 @inz+ Aug 02 09:40:11 Iserlohner: google finds it on repo.m.o Aug 02 09:41:10 madam: sorry what is this? Aug 02 09:42:17 Iserlohner, it in extras repository (deb http://repository.maemo.org/extras bora free) Aug 02 09:43:01 Iser, or if you're interested in the deb itself, http://repository.maemo.org/extras/pool/bora/free/h/hildon-libsmm/ Aug 02 09:44:12 thanks al lot for your help Aug 02 09:49:50 ah, button-press-event Aug 02 09:55:12 madam: another question: i have dependencies on libsigc++ during installing hildon-libsmm do you know wheres the right deb for this too?? Aug 02 09:56:58 Iser, same repo Aug 02 09:57:26 Iser, under libs/libsigc++-2.0/ instead of h/hildon-libsmm/ Aug 02 09:57:48 thanks a lot again Aug 02 10:02:17 _Monkey: extras? Aug 02 10:02:17 <_Monkey> disq: bugger all, i dunno Aug 02 10:03:36 _Monkey: extras is http://repository.maemo.org/extras (distribution: "bora" for n800, "gregale" for n770) (components="free non-free") Aug 02 10:03:37 <_Monkey> OK, disq. Aug 02 10:24:23 dizquierdo: kernel for maemo is done in git Aug 02 10:24:30 because kernel for linux is done in git Aug 02 10:24:59 dizquierdo: unfortunately there are something like 20 different copies of the kernel intenrally Aug 02 10:25:11 oh Aug 02 10:25:27 and i can't figure out which one is canonical. if i could, i'd stick it up on timeless.justdave.net/mxr-test/ next to the garage and sardine cross references Aug 02 10:26:05 i suppose i could go download the official sourceballs for 770/n800 and cross reference them.... Aug 02 10:26:10 i might even do that Aug 02 10:26:31 generally speaking, the kernel team tries very hard not to ship with deltas from standard linux Aug 02 10:26:58 (there are some changes to mmc stuff, which is unfortunate, but ...) Aug 02 10:27:11 dizquierdo: precisely what problem do you have or are you trying to solve? Aug 02 10:27:22 do you just want something to read because you have nothing better to do? Aug 02 10:27:31 do you want to follow kernel development? Aug 02 10:27:36 do you want to contribute in some area? Aug 02 10:28:02 explain what you want done, and if it's reasonable, i'll see about helping from where i sit Aug 02 10:29:41 just follow the kernel development Aug 02 10:30:15 follow the standard kernel development then Aug 02 10:30:21 it should be fairly easy to spot the nokians Aug 02 10:30:24 or their minions Aug 02 10:30:44 ok, I understand, it's the same kernel with brief changes Aug 02 10:31:15 The linux-omap might be som'n to follow too Aug 02 10:31:40 thank you very much timelyx for the info :) Aug 02 10:32:29 and for your time Aug 02 10:32:47 yeah. most of the git kernel repos are omap relatives Aug 02 10:32:57 (although some have other names) Aug 02 10:33:10 but there are really too many for me to try to figure out which is interesting Aug 02 10:34:16 inz: btw, where are you (/msg timelE61i) Aug 02 10:35:52 doh Aug 02 10:37:16 doh? Aug 02 10:37:24 wrong city? Aug 02 10:39:58 yes Aug 02 10:40:33 do you ever travel east? Aug 02 10:41:01 East? Aug 02 10:41:23 southeast? Aug 02 10:42:07 South sometimes, east rarely. Aug 02 11:09:36 i should get my 770 tomorrow morning Aug 02 11:09:37 thank the lord Aug 02 12:08:23 inz: ping Aug 02 12:08:31 inz: ive seen you have a control panel applet Aug 02 12:09:35 i noticed the control panel item doesn't suport the small icon size Aug 02 12:12:40 hmm guess i found a bug in sapwood Aug 02 12:12:59 gtk_paint_box with a width < 10 fucks up the drawing of the box :/ Aug 02 12:13:10 does it ring a bell ? (checking the bugzilla in the meantime) Aug 02 12:28:31 i confirm Aug 02 12:28:59 invoking gtk_paint_box with a style that does not use sapwood engine words perfectly when box width is < 10 Aug 02 12:29:21 but invoking gtk_paint_box with a style that uses sapwood engine fails when box width is < 10 Aug 02 12:38:37 timeless, yeah, I've noticed that too, haven't had time to fix it though Aug 02 12:39:03 how can i put angstrom on my 770? Aug 02 12:47:49 hi there. Aug 02 12:58:31 <|tbb|> hi all, anyone got experience with synergy (mouse + keyboard sharing utility) ? Aug 02 13:00:04 disq: finally i've solved my problem with iconification. it turns out not to have anything to do with osso (hence with osso_initialize()); the problem was the missing .desktop file. my collegue advised me to learn reading and exercising more patience. can't agree more, doh. Aug 02 13:06:16 <|tbb|> pidgin takes up to 70% of cpu power, is that normal? Aug 02 13:06:34 pidgin sucks. Aug 02 13:06:40 bitlbee rules. Aug 02 13:07:44 <|tbb|> is that ported to maemo Aug 02 13:08:07 back in the times of n770 it worked Aug 02 13:08:21 i don't remember if i just crosscompiled it or something Aug 02 13:08:24 btw it worked Aug 02 13:10:25 <|tbb|> pff my battery drains a much, cant remember that gaim done that before Aug 02 13:10:33 <||cw> pidgin is a desktop app, with 500Mhz+, FPU, l2 cache, and all that goodness in mind, ported to maemo. only so much can reasonably be changed. using the all the CPU for short periods should be expected Aug 02 13:11:13 <||cw> wifi sucks on the battery as well Aug 02 13:30:03 pidgin queries each 5 secs for idle time and screensaver support Aug 02 13:30:25 it's supposed to be fixed on 2.0.1 Aug 02 13:49:29 servus Aug 02 14:08:17 someone know why curses support is removed on pymaemo ? Aug 02 14:16:05 i'm wandering, what's the relation between xomap, x.org and xserver-kdrive? Aug 02 14:18:13 AD-N770, only SDK has curses, not the device Aug 02 14:21:17 luck^: but, curses could be installed on the device ? Aug 02 14:22:20 AD-N770, for sure.. but we dont install to save disk space Aug 02 14:25:20 luck^: but it could be provided in a separate package, Aug 02 14:25:36 just for ppl that need it Aug 02 14:25:45 like me today :) Aug 02 14:28:02 :) AD-N770, could you open an enhancement request in our bugzilla? Aug 02 14:28:35 luck^: I will do it Aug 02 14:28:40 thanks! Aug 02 14:29:19 AD-N770, we can try to put this in the next pymaemo release Aug 02 14:29:35 ok Aug 02 14:37:13 hey Aug 02 14:43:48 lardman: did you ever check with the libvorbis guys to see if anyone else has ported an open-source ogg player to another dsp? Aug 02 14:53:32 hi Aug 02 14:54:12 I got my 770 yesterday and I'm a little overwhelmed Aug 02 15:01:02 strid: in a good way? how do you like it so far? Aug 02 15:03:41 happened to me again last night on my walk. "this is what i wanted in the 21st centure back in 1988!" :P Aug 02 15:04:43 also the slimness and hardness of the 770 case makes it seem like something from a more advanced civilization Aug 02 15:04:45 whaq_: I like it, but it's definitely kind of slow Aug 02 15:05:04 yes Aug 02 15:05:16 have you upgraded to the latest firmware release yet? Aug 02 15:05:22 and I wish the os would use the mmc for applications, and also use more than 64 mb as ram Aug 02 15:05:31 it apparently had the latest firmware already Aug 02 15:05:35 good Aug 02 15:05:46 you can create a swap file on mmc, this will reduce the memory pressure somewhat Aug 02 15:06:02 I did that, but it still seems quite slow. Probably just the cpu. Aug 02 15:06:06 it is possible to use the mmc for os + applications, but it seems very involved and I never tried that Aug 02 15:06:08 and it was limited to 64 mb Aug 02 15:06:24 (the instructions are somewhere on the maemo.org wiki) Aug 02 15:06:48 I think I saw that, booting from mmc? Seemed too complicated to perform without a proper keyboard Aug 02 15:06:51 the 770 is slightly on the "too slow" side of "usable", while the n800 is sligtly on the "just fast enough but could be better" side Aug 02 15:07:23 for horrid icky websites my pentium 3 950 is on the 'too slow' side Aug 02 15:07:26 the price is what made me get the 770 anyway, getting the n800 was never in question Aug 02 15:07:38 so I'm happy overall Aug 02 15:08:14 it seems that quite a few of the applications I install doesn't show up in the gui's menu, though? Aug 02 15:08:27 do they have to be accessed through term? Aug 02 15:08:29 I like the design of the 770 better, although N800's integrated stand is very handy Aug 02 15:08:49 probably, if those are command-line apps Aug 02 15:09:18 aircrack-ptw Aug 02 15:10:18 one way to run arbitrary shell commands and hotlink them to a menu is https://garage.maemo.org/projects/load-applet/ Aug 02 15:10:24 requires a reboot after install Aug 02 15:11:40 "show cpu load, memory consumption, make screenshots" Aug 02 15:11:53 is that the same app? Aug 02 15:12:03 yes Aug 02 15:12:28 is load-applet-run required as well? Aug 02 15:12:38 hmm Aug 02 15:12:50 load-applet-run is what the package is called Aug 02 15:13:01 maybe there are different versions Aug 02 15:13:34 I just installed load-applet and load-applet-run, hopefully they'll get along Aug 02 15:14:00 could be the link i pointed you to doesn't have the run capability Aug 02 15:14:08 i only installed load-applet-run - sorry if that was a mistake Aug 02 15:14:52 I'll go for just that one, then Aug 02 15:14:57 it requires a restart, you say? Aug 02 15:15:16 i don't know how to start it manually Aug 02 15:19:25 I'd love to figure out how to run aircrack-ptw Aug 02 15:21:01 if you want to clear up space, you can clean out stuff in /home/user/Mydocs/.* Aug 02 15:21:26 you can also free up space with unneeded locales and themes, but be careful Aug 02 15:23:28 whoah iodine is cool Aug 02 15:24:33 what is it? Aug 02 15:24:34 <_Monkey> i guess it is a puzzle Aug 02 15:24:47 googling for "iodine" does not give good results Aug 02 15:25:14 http://code.kryo.se/iodine Aug 02 15:39:04 mulliner does nice work Aug 02 15:46:11 i need a media player like with xmodmap binding to a key to quickly flag a song as + or - Aug 02 15:49:08 how do I use maemoscrobbler? Aug 02 15:52:03 maemoscrobbler? Aug 02 15:52:16 monkey should be taught to respond to "how do I" queries Aug 02 15:52:52 https://garage.maemo.org/projects/maemoscrobbler Aug 02 15:53:47 pupnik, is monkey a supybot? Aug 02 15:54:04 is a bot. type unknown to me Aug 02 15:55:07 I guess maemoscrobbler requires a media player to support it in order to work? Aug 02 15:59:43 hello garrett, melmoth, tank17, dolske Aug 02 15:59:57 strid, I never tried maemoscrobbler Aug 02 16:00:30 hey Aug 02 16:00:44 hi there Aug 02 16:01:29 how are you folks today? Aug 02 16:13:21 http://scourge.sourceforge.net/ << a nice game to port if/when we get opengl Aug 02 16:14:02 * sp3000 wonders what format .osso_rss_feed_reader/cache/images are in Aug 02 16:14:35 sp3000, ssh? what OS version do you have? Aug 02 16:15:04 ahh, looks like they contain a header and then the image Aug 02 16:15:14 which is why nothing recognizes them Aug 02 16:22:52 just running aircrack is frustrating Aug 02 16:23:40 takes a bit of reading to figure out wtf to do Aug 02 16:24:17 yeah, I wish there was a comprehensible 770 guide for it Aug 02 16:24:24 right now I'm not even sure if I have the right packages Aug 02 16:24:26 whee. Aug 02 16:24:57 it would be much better to have a polished package that didn't need documentation and just worked out of the box Aug 02 16:24:59 finally got my hardware keyboard control panel configured for the right keyboard, so now my bluetooth keyboard seems to work right. Aug 02 16:25:19 i think it's good that it's not easy to use Aug 02 16:25:45 pupnik, why is that? Aug 02 16:33:37 keeps the script kiddies at bay :) Aug 02 16:35:08 ah, milhouse Aug 02 16:37:17 770 doesn't support usb 2.0, does it? copying a 50 mb file to the mmc takes 20 minutes :( Aug 02 16:37:30 think it's usb1 only Aug 02 16:38:01 <||cw> rs-mmc isn't that fast anyway Aug 02 16:38:12 standard kernel also uses slow/compatible mmc speed Aug 02 16:38:27 oh no it is usb 2.0 according to this page http://europe.nokia.com/A4145105 Aug 02 16:38:59 you'd be better off a) upgrading to the fast kernel or b) copying using your PC Aug 02 16:39:59 I don't have an mmc reader on my pc Aug 02 16:40:11 do you have an SD reader? Aug 02 16:40:18 wait, wait Aug 02 16:40:28 fuck my ass, I think I just found an mmc reader on this thing Aug 02 16:40:29 wow. Aug 02 16:40:36 :) Aug 02 16:40:57 hah Aug 02 16:41:01 <||cw> http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2847&highlight=fastest Aug 02 16:42:32 whoops Aug 02 16:42:39 I'm not sure that was an mmc reader after all Aug 02 16:42:51 and I just know I'm not going to get it out of there Aug 02 16:43:14 on my laptop getting the mmc card out is bitchy Aug 02 16:43:20 usually needs a knife Aug 02 16:43:21 <||cw> did you use the rs to full size adaptor? Aug 02 16:43:24