**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Aug 15 02:59:57 2007 Aug 15 03:13:03 ugg, I got python to resize batch of images, unfortunately, it takes 3 minutes per picture off my digital camera. Comparitivalely, it takes 5 second on my laptop (700mhz, 256mb RAM) Aug 15 03:17:35 rhsanborn, im on a laptop with the exact same specs... what are you running (os wise)? Aug 15 03:18:55 It's actually a windows machine, but I threw a knoppix disc in it Aug 15 03:22:14 i wish i could boot this machine from cd Aug 15 03:22:27 the hoops i have to jump through Aug 15 03:22:37 sigh... Aug 15 03:23:12 I'm going to the Peace Corps in 6 months, and I want to use my n800 as my primary computer Aug 15 03:24:18 But resizing images is one of the things I have to do. Uploading 1.5meg images on slow connections is a pain Aug 15 03:25:08 wohoo! I just got my 770 working with my VX9800 Aug 15 03:27:14 well, its a pita cause of the no cd boot, but... Aug 15 03:27:26 this machine might be ideal. Aug 15 03:27:32 panasonic cf-m34 Aug 15 03:31:03 I wanted the n800 for the weight. If it isn't going to work, I will either get a newer HP laptop, or I might consider using web cafe computers booted to knoppix Aug 15 03:31:24 I could use those computers to convert my images and do everything else on the 800 Aug 15 03:43:27 why not upload to a remote machine and resize there? Aug 15 03:43:58 i wouldnt crunch on an n800 Aug 15 03:47:29 I need to get the pictures smaller so that they will upload in a reasonable timframe Aug 15 03:47:46 Each pic is 1.5 megs or so natiive Aug 15 03:48:05 oh Aug 15 03:48:37 hmmm reboot time. Aug 15 03:48:39 Internet connections aren't the best in rural north africa Aug 15 03:49:38 no doubt Aug 15 04:06:14 i need help Aug 15 04:06:18 i tried to avoid it Aug 15 04:06:27 but i cant figure out how to get root on this n800 Aug 15 04:06:53 i connected to it via ssh and did a change password... but i cant figure out how to get root from xterminal on the n800 Aug 15 04:07:04 sudo gainroot Aug 15 04:07:20 yea that might be my mistake... i think.. i did sudo becomeroot Aug 15 04:08:11 Also make sure you edited the gainroot script to remove the check that it is in R&D mode (unless you plan on being in R&D mode). Aug 15 04:08:11 what does the 770 do when the case is closed? turns the screen off and locks the buttons/screen, that part is obvious. anything else? cpu underclocking? etc Aug 15 04:08:16 no go Aug 15 04:08:25 password i made isnt working.. and rootme isnt working either Aug 15 04:08:36 i am in R&D modwe Aug 15 04:08:43 which i dont like... the startup isnt as pretty Aug 15 04:08:45 derf: bah, gainroot is silly. add sh to the sudoers file so that sudo -i works, the RIGHT way to get a root shell Aug 15 04:08:48 No, sudo expects you to type in the _user's_ password. Aug 15 04:08:54 Not root's. Aug 15 04:09:08 i dont have a password Aug 15 04:09:14 i dont think i do Aug 15 04:09:17 Don't look at me. Aug 15 04:09:18 sparr how do i do that Aug 15 04:09:21 i want real root Aug 15 04:09:27 sudo's never asked me for one on the N800. Aug 15 04:09:31 or i want sudo to work Aug 15 04:09:35 i need my sudo password Aug 15 04:09:36 are you root now? Aug 15 04:09:42 well i guess no Aug 15 04:09:43 t Aug 15 04:10:02 http://sparrsstuff.com/ssh_and_root Aug 15 04:10:04 sparr: I would've though the "RIGHT" way to get a root shell was su - Aug 15 04:10:07 But what do I know? Aug 15 04:10:08 i have R&D mode.. and i did some SSH thing last night witht eh password rootme and changed the password Aug 15 04:10:29 derf: no, thats the right way to become root. which is a step higher than just having a shell running as root :) Aug 15 04:10:39 setite: check out the part of that page regarding sudoers Aug 15 04:11:08 * sparr tries to do some good with his howto Aug 15 04:11:50 I guess I don't understand the distinction. Perhaps you can educate me. Aug 15 04:12:18 i love you sparr Aug 15 04:12:21 sshing now Aug 15 04:14:18 bye Aug 15 04:14:49 oy editing sudoers is hell Aug 15 04:15:49 how do i edit it Aug 15 04:16:13 vi if you havent installed better Aug 15 04:16:20 im a fan of vi and nano-tiny Aug 15 04:16:24 yea i mean how do i start editing it Aug 15 04:16:30 i did the vi thing Aug 15 04:16:31 oh Aug 15 04:16:32 heh Aug 15 04:16:33 and brought up the file Aug 15 04:16:39 press "i" Aug 15 04:16:41 to enter insert mode Aug 15 04:16:57 when youre done editing, hit escape to exit insert mode, then type ":wq" to save and quit Aug 15 04:17:44 ok done Aug 15 04:20:25 argh i buggered it Aug 15 04:20:27 parse error Aug 15 04:21:45 is there a feature on this like pressing the up arrow Aug 15 04:21:49 to repeat last command in cli Aug 15 04:23:14 damn i thought i enabled nopasswd Aug 15 04:25:31 god i still cant scan Aug 15 04:26:17 oh i see what i did Aug 15 04:28:04 glad to know my instructions sorta helped someone :) Aug 15 04:28:15 feedback is appreciated, help me make it easier on the next guy Aug 15 04:32:26 well i still have to enter a password Aug 15 04:32:38 i thought the user NOPASSWD would eliminate that Aug 15 04:33:16 Check it: http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=68572&postcount=31 Aug 15 04:33:24 which line did you use? Aug 15 04:33:41 of the 4 i provided Aug 15 04:33:53 all i see is an annoying large picture of evanescence Aug 15 04:34:01 kagu is a media player? Aug 15 04:34:03 i used the two NOPASSWD lines Aug 15 04:34:03 i thought it was a game Aug 15 04:34:09 nah its not a game Aug 15 04:34:12 first, only use one of the 4 lines Aug 15 04:34:25 kagu? Aug 15 04:34:25 <_Monkey> kagu is http://maemo.org/downloads/product/kagu Aug 15 04:34:36 second, the first NOPASSWD line should make sudo never prompt you for a password for anything Aug 15 04:34:59 the nopassd ALL Aug 15 04:35:09 that supercedes nopasswd /bin/sh? Aug 15 04:35:17 user ALL = NOPASSWD: ALL Aug 15 04:35:17 so am i cancelling it out? Aug 15 04:35:24 ok ill remove the /bin/sh Aug 15 04:35:28 i dont know why it wouldnt work with both Aug 15 04:35:41 that line should make the entire rest of the file moot Aug 15 04:37:01 looks like it does Aug 15 04:37:22 looks like having both lines makes it go cuckoo Aug 15 04:37:48 weird Aug 15 04:38:19 question though Aug 15 04:38:23 btaudit is being a bitch Aug 15 04:38:34 keeps saying i need to be root to use raw sockets Aug 15 04:38:40 even after a sudo -i Aug 15 04:51:21 no idea, sorry Aug 15 04:51:29 anyone figure out how to make apt stop bitching about missing gpg keys? Aug 15 04:52:10 Setting up kagu (1.0.4) ... Aug 15 04:52:11 Deleting db Aug 15 04:52:11 [: ==: unknown operand Aug 15 04:52:11 Segmentation fault Aug 15 04:52:11 dpkg: error processing kagu (--configure): Aug 15 04:52:11 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 139 Aug 15 04:52:15 hooray kagu! Aug 15 04:52:25 I never did. Aug 15 04:52:36 I tried, but decided I didn't care. Aug 15 04:53:03 gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys '12345678' && apt-key add /root/.gnupg/pubring.gp something like that Aug 15 04:53:49 +g Aug 15 04:54:02 i tried something like that Aug 15 04:54:11 gpg complains about 'cant run remote execution' or some such Aug 15 04:54:36 disq: whats up with kagu dying on install? Aug 15 04:55:15 [: ==: unknown operand Aug 15 05:08:22 it's assuming bash, which doesn't exist on the device? Aug 15 05:14:03 if header[:3] == "ID3":te("fLaC" + data) Aug 15 05:14:05 uhm Aug 15 05:14:06 wtf? Aug 15 05:14:09 python-o? Aug 15 05:14:52 or i guess i just dont know python Aug 15 06:54:32 has anyone tried to add power to an unpowered hub? Simple connect the correct lines to a +5V source? Aug 15 06:56:14 Darksmurf: I think there are lot's of articles about that for 770 host usb mode Aug 15 07:01:16 they all talk about modifying a powered usb hub to inject power back to the 770. I don't have a powered hub. There are plans for a 'power injector' it sends power up to the 770 and down to whatever device you have connected, but it doesn't talk about if you can use it with a hub. I dunno...I'm relunctant to try it in the off chance it'll kill the 770. Aug 15 07:03:04 But for the life of me I can't find a good reason for it to not work. My other option is to go buy a powered hub and do it the way everyone else is doing it. I've got a very small unpowered hub I'd love to use though. Aug 15 07:06:03 hmm.. iirc, we got and usb headset working by directly connecting to a 770 (with usb adapters). All we needed to do was to solder some batteries to the usb cable. I can't recommend that though ;) Aug 15 07:06:10 s,and,an, Aug 15 07:07:58 usb headset eh? I havn't seen mention of that anywhere. Thats basicly the power connections I want to make. Right now I'm trying to decided what functions I want..i.e. need a 5v source to power everything, but I'd like it small for when I'm using flashdrives, etc. Need to be able to put more juice in when I'm using and HD, etc Aug 15 07:09:43 nokia770hacks.com hmm..I've never seen that site before Aug 15 07:13:25 Darksmurf: you coul in that case "just" cut the power wire from the nokia to the hub Aug 15 07:16:30 hmm... the only thing I can see 'wrong' is that when the USB hub is queried by the USB host chip inside the 770 it'll say it is an unpowered hub. The 770 may know that it can't supply the current needed and *could* turn the hub off...or it may assume that since it is working it can supply the 500ma to the hub. Because no power is being pulled from the 770 there is no chance of pulling too much. I wonder if the 770 c Aug 15 07:17:28 " I wonder if the 770 c" Aug 15 07:17:40 don't write that much :) Aug 15 07:17:45 pulled from whatever psu I use...it may just work 'normal' then? The more I think about it I can't see a reason it wouldn't be OK to use an unpowered hub (assuming I inject power on the 5v lines) Aug 15 07:18:55 "I wonder if the 770 chip can tell how much is being" rest is in next comment. Aug 15 07:19:09 the 770 is of course "used" to have 5 volt on the usb when it's in device mode so I would also not expect problems with that Aug 15 07:20:40 yeah, as I understand it there are no power connections to the usb chip inside the 770. It ONLY gets power from the usb host. Aug 15 07:20:59 I need to hit the sack, thanks for letting me bouce ideas off you..gnight. Aug 15 07:35:08 Hey, does anyone get /scratchbox/tools/bin/sh: line 1: /usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure: No such file or directory or similar while doing apt-get upgrades ? seems this dpkg-preconfigure binary missing and i didnt find any package that would provide it .. Aug 15 07:45:33 Is anyone else annoyed that the rss feed links go to the maemo site and not to the actual blogs? Aug 15 07:46:07 I was just trying to read the xv and mplayer on maemo post and clicked on the rss link. Aug 15 07:46:14 I ended up on this page: http://maemo.org/news/planet-maemo/view/f23737ab1c6a643450e192310026bd71.html Aug 15 07:47:04 And the post is crippled (contains only the first paragraph). Thus I would like to navigate to the actual post. But there is no link to the actual post on maemos view post screen. Aug 15 07:47:28 I had to go to the http://maemo.org/news/planet-maemo/ page to be able to click on the link to the actual post. Aug 15 07:47:41 konttori: yes Aug 15 07:47:47 ah. they are syndicating the blog descriptions and linking only to them.. that i can understand but not that the description doesnt link to the source. Aug 15 07:48:00 any chance that Nokia could AT LEAST add the post link to the show post view as well? Aug 15 07:48:40 I'm reading the maemo planet with google reader and it sure is annoying that the link goes to maemo.org instead of the real blog.. Aug 15 07:49:07 Anyway, I feel a bit uneasy about the rss feed linking to maemo site as well. Aug 15 07:49:19 Yeah Aug 15 07:50:33 maybe i can ask someone here.. Aug 15 07:50:47 also, it would be nice if the show post view would contain the posters name like it is on the planet main screen Aug 15 07:51:06 Aloha! Aug 15 07:51:06 <_Monkey> Guten Tag, sbaturzio! Aug 15 07:51:22 konttori: that too Aug 15 07:52:51 jani: it would be great if you could convince ferenc (or someone) to fix the issue. It's probably quite a minor change. Aug 15 07:53:40 i dont know ferenc (well, i know what he does) but i think guim sits few rooms away from me.. Aug 15 07:54:55 Morning, all Aug 15 08:01:19 Ah. great. I hope Quim can help us out on that one Aug 15 08:51:15 good morning Aug 15 09:00:56 morning Aug 15 09:00:57 <_Monkey> aloha Aug 15 09:07:48 ramen is the defender of the universe Aug 15 09:29:21 morning Aug 15 09:29:22 <_Monkey> aloha Aug 15 09:30:43 _Monkey: botsnack Aug 15 09:30:44 <_Monkey> :) Aug 15 09:30:48 :) Aug 15 09:33:16 breb Aug 15 09:54:36 lo mallum - ltns :) Aug 15 09:55:24 hey Nermal Aug 15 10:26:15 Is there some instructions somewhere how to install the Microb browser inside scratchbox? microb-browser depends on tablet-browser-ui which depends on stuff that aren't in the repos.. Aug 15 10:31:50 microb? Aug 15 10:31:50 <_Monkey> microb is probably the nokia sponsored gtk2-cairo hack of gecko for use by /usr/bin/browser via eal on n800 (4.2007) Aug 15 10:33:34 http://maemo.org/browser Aug 15 10:33:59 timeless has another site with info Aug 15 10:36:28 sanity check, about to download maemo VM from garage (1.2G) - will this work with VM console and will I be able to use it for IT2006 *and* IT2007HE? Aug 15 10:37:45 (to explain: I have 2x770, one with IT2006, one with IT2007HE) Aug 15 10:38:30 * dpb_ pokes timeless. You alive? Aug 15 10:42:18 started dl anyway, ETA 10hrs, gulp :-( Aug 15 10:46:58 matmo: doh - would take 20 minutes here :) Aug 15 10:52:57 Inconsistency detected by ld.so: rtld.c: 288: _dl_start_final: Assertion `info->l.l_tls_modid == 0' failed! Aug 15 10:55:09 * pupnik does not understand or like quilt Aug 15 10:55:57 quilt handles more easily the order in which the patches are applied and the individual options Aug 15 10:56:00 like -p Aug 15 10:56:14 Nermal: I wish I was there :-) Only getting ~40kbps here although I have broadband. Aug 15 10:56:35 [sbox-SB_Arm2: ~/0_Deps/sdl-gfx/sdlgfx-2.0.13] > quilt -f push -a || test $? = 2 Aug 15 10:56:37 The topmost patch patches/001_rebootstrap.diff needs to be refreshed first. Aug 15 11:20:27 hah, package built after deleting quilt invocation from debian/rules Aug 15 11:21:18 I've seen that before, people stating that their sw "works" since a compiler said it's ok... ;) Aug 15 11:42:22 Hi! My 770 is in a strange state: When I power it up, the initial Nokia logo stays on and the progress bar never appears. When I charge it, the initial charge logo comes up, then I just get a white screen with nothing on it. I still can go into update mode. Is there a way to look at the console output of the kernel via USB? Aug 15 11:42:50 Maybe with "flasher -b" and some kernel command line? Aug 15 11:44:23 Or is there a way to dump the flash contents to a PC in update mode? Aug 15 11:46:04 0xffff does something similar Aug 15 11:46:25 http://www.nopcode.org/0xFFFF/ http://www.nopcode.org/0xFFFF/?p=docu&q=dumping Aug 15 11:58:37 eijk: I use rsync for that: http://www.guardiani.us/index.php/Nokia_n800#Network_Backups Aug 15 11:59:28 trevarthan: in update mode? it doesn't really boot currently... Aug 15 12:00:11 keesj: Thanks for the hint, I'll take a look! Aug 15 12:07:52 * eijk is back Aug 15 12:08:01 * eijk is away: away Aug 15 12:16:28 Grr.. there's a 0.0.1 version of tablet-browser-ui in garage svn, but the newest version is 0.2.9.. where's the sources? :( Aug 15 12:22:32 rsync rulez Aug 15 12:29:00 Kagu is mentioned on ars technica: http://arstechnica.com/journals/linux.ars/2007/08/15/kagu-media-player-for-the-n800-supports-a2dp-inertial-scrolling Aug 15 12:56:44 good morning folks Aug 15 13:01:32 main.cc: In function `int main(int, char**)': Aug 15 13:01:36 /usr/include/glibmm-2.4/glibmm/convert.h:171: error: too few arguments to function `std::string Glib::convert(const std::string&, const std::string&, const std::string&, std::auto_ptr&)' Aug 15 13:04:08 ah wants auto_ptr Aug 15 13:04:26 oh god...thats why I love plain C Aug 15 13:04:40 * NeoStrider loves plain C, but cant avoid using some C++ Aug 15 13:05:20 so i need to create some kind of auto_ptr for error handling Aug 15 13:06:08 building libxml++ Aug 15 13:06:39 quoting linus..boys use libs, men create their own xml libs =P Aug 15 13:06:50 just kidding, my xml lib sucks Aug 15 13:06:53 if anybody already has built libxml++2.6-2.14.0 and the dev package, please stop me now Aug 15 13:06:59 heh Aug 15 13:07:25 you work with xml NeoStrider :) do you want to fix it? :) Aug 15 13:07:41 maybe Aug 15 13:07:56 I know some XSLT and I do some poor man xml handling Aug 15 13:08:00 gimme the urls Aug 15 13:08:49 just trying to build libxml++ in scratchbox - you can apt-get source libxml++ and see if it builds Aug 15 13:11:02 http://www.gtkmm.org/docs/glibmm-2.4/docs/reference/html/classGlib_1_1ConvertError.html Aug 15 13:12:05 oops Aug 15 13:12:11 my apt is not working under sbox Aug 15 13:12:20 do you know how to fix it? Aug 15 13:12:24 (gregale) Aug 15 13:12:32 no Aug 15 13:12:50 i am passing a Glib::Error& to it now - think that will work Aug 15 13:13:13 * eijk is back Aug 15 13:15:26 brb Aug 15 13:22:35 hahaha "if you don't understand it, delete it." lmao Aug 15 13:24:16 nice perspective from life.... Aug 15 13:24:30 very aplicable to windows =-p Aug 15 13:27:07 I've been searching for it for a while, but haven't found anything: Is there a way to redirect the kernel's boot messages over USB from the 770 to a laptop? Aug 15 13:32:54 * eijk is away: brb Aug 15 13:34:15 * NeoStrider is leaving Aug 15 13:34:19 cya! Aug 15 13:39:18 morning, almost Aug 15 13:40:59 kulve: How are you getting on with Speex? Aug 15 13:41:45 kulve: I've grabbed the tremor-lowmem-no-byte code and need to learn some more about writing Makefiles and gstreamer Aug 15 14:04:15 Anyone have any thoughts about Jazelle? Aug 15 14:04:52 _Monkey: What do you think about Jazelle? Aug 15 14:04:52 <_Monkey> i don't know, lardman Aug 15 14:05:07 * eijk is back Aug 15 14:07:44 kulve: did you find/file a bug about planet linking the wrong way? Aug 15 14:07:46 dpb: sorry, it's internal, we got snagged by lawyers or something. Aug 15 14:10:36 A bit hard to get the community to help with the browser if parts are closed.. :| Aug 15 14:19:17 timeless: you get my private message from yesterday? Aug 15 14:20:05 timeless: sp3000 gave me a dbus command that almost works: dbus-send --print-reply --system --dest=com.nokia.mce /com/nokia/mce/request com.nokia.mce.request.req_tklock_mode_change string:silent-locked-dim Aug 15 14:20:17 but it locks the screen instead of just turning it off. Aug 15 14:20:25 Any ideas? Aug 15 14:21:37 change string:silent-locked-dim to string:dim or string:silent-dim ? Aug 15 14:21:38 <_Monkey> Nermal: that doesn't look right Aug 15 14:31:58 is there a gcc 4.x for maemo 2.2 / gregale? Aug 15 14:38:56 timeless: if tablet-browser-ui isn't free, it shouldn't be in the 'free' repo on maemo.org.. Aug 15 14:40:28 disq: poke Aug 15 14:49:05 Somebody here with more than basic knowledge of libconic ? Aug 15 14:51:05 finished what appears to be the level set for angstron Aug 15 14:51:13 1 tutorial + 5 levels...too short? Aug 15 14:51:30 or just enough? Aug 15 14:52:08 *knock* *knock* Aug 15 14:52:17 anybody home? Aug 15 14:52:49 :d Aug 15 14:52:51 :d Aug 15 14:52:52 um Aug 15 14:52:52 yes Aug 15 14:53:33 so..."yes" to "anybody home?" or "too short?" Aug 15 14:54:09 yes to anyone home Aug 15 14:54:12 I'm gonna guess to 'home' Aug 15 14:54:15 I've no idea what angstron is Aug 15 14:54:17 :| Aug 15 14:54:41 _Monkey? Aug 15 14:54:42 <_Monkey> yes, NeoStrider? Aug 15 14:54:52 angstron? Aug 15 14:54:53 <_Monkey> somebody said angstron was http://angstron.garage.maemo.org/ Aug 15 14:55:15 my game Aug 15 14:56:49 well Aug 15 14:56:52 gotta go Aug 15 14:56:52 lunch Aug 15 14:56:54 cya! Aug 15 15:15:49 heh, amazon's price for the 770 went from $140 to ~$280...they had the best shipping costs :-( Aug 15 15:17:48 I see kagu 1.0.5 is out... Aug 15 15:18:16 still no all album play :( Aug 15 15:18:31 or m4a support... Aug 15 15:18:38 but apart from that, it's great :) Aug 15 15:21:36 what's the dpkg-buildpackage type command that lets me skip the 'make clean' ? Aug 15 15:22:39 also can i pass -- options to ./configure from the dpkg-buildpackage invocation? Aug 15 15:24:00 Pupnik: I think you need to change the RULES file to pass configure options. Aug 15 15:24:32 ok that's what i been doin Aug 15 15:41:12 is anyone familiar with mdns/avahi? Aug 15 15:43:26 http://it.slashdot.org/it/07/08/15/1341224.shtml Aug 15 15:43:29 polom polommm Aug 15 15:45:26 oups. Aug 15 15:45:31 wrong chan sorry :) Aug 15 15:50:50 arse Aug 15 15:51:01 my 770 order has been cancelled as they can't get hold of any Aug 15 15:51:14 looks like I won't be joining the maemo crowd anytime soon Aug 15 15:55:24 Nermal: Who was that with? Aug 15 15:55:43 mobilefun :| Aug 15 15:55:49 ordered it on the 4th Aug 15 15:55:54 hmm, I tried to order a bt keyboard from them Aug 15 15:56:00 so now everyone has sold out :| Aug 15 15:56:02 *sigh* Aug 15 15:56:07 They had no stock of that either Aug 15 15:59:04 hello Aug 15 15:59:20 hello Aug 15 15:59:20 <_Monkey> hey, lardman|home Aug 15 15:59:34 _Monkey: Any wiser about Jazelle? ;) Aug 15 15:59:35 <_Monkey> lardman|home: i'm not following you... Aug 15 15:59:53 _Monkey: doesn't surprise me Aug 15 15:59:54 <_Monkey> lardman|home: i'm not following you... Aug 15 16:00:18 silly bot Aug 15 16:24:45 j2me for the n800? http://wiki.java.net/bin/view/Mobileandembedded/PhoneMEAdvancedPlatformsNokia800#Run_to_Validate Aug 15 16:25:37 more j2me on the n800: http://blogs.sun.com/hinkmond/entry/oh_the_joys_of_crunchtime Aug 15 16:29:40 anyone in here using a 770 and having trouble installing the latest version of Kagu Media Player? Aug 15 16:33:27 Kagu anyone? Aug 15 16:36:01 hi cptvitamin - the kagu master was here a 1/2 hour ago Aug 15 16:36:04 what is your problem Aug 15 16:47:41 pupnik - I was a successful user of Kagu before and I went to upgrade. The install process seems to work fine but at the end I get a message that it could not be installed. Its listed in my installed apps but the status is 'broken'. Aug 15 16:56:05 is there a way to get svn diff to list full paths instead of just relative paths in the header section of its output? Aug 15 16:56:08 oops Aug 15 16:59:11 sorry, trevarthan Aug 15 16:59:18 i missed your message yesterday Aug 15 16:59:35 i'm reading some of the code that he found Aug 15 16:59:45 i can see how/why he was able to suggest it Aug 15 16:59:53 unfortunately, there's a hole in my xref Aug 15 17:00:00 i don't have the file that defines those strings Aug 15 17:00:06 i could get it, i suppose Aug 15 17:00:52 * timeless does a brute force search for nokia.mce Aug 15 17:00:58 http://pupnik.de/wormux_menu.png Aug 15 17:01:24 on the offchance, anyone here know much about svn? Aug 15 17:01:53 #define much Aug 15 17:02:17 i think i accidentally pasted my svn question here a few lines ago :) Aug 15 17:02:24 much=sufficient to answer it :) Aug 15 17:02:53 ah, so it seems Aug 15 17:03:45 Can diff be made to do that? Aug 15 17:04:00 it's possible it's so lame that it can't Aug 15 17:04:02 since you could use --diff-cmd if it can Aug 15 17:04:05 it would seem stupid Aug 15 17:04:13 oh, you mean diff, not svn diff Aug 15 17:04:15 um Aug 15 17:06:17 doesn't look like it can Aug 15 17:07:28 timeless: no Aug 15 17:07:49 kulve: that was to my "did you file a bug?"? Aug 15 17:07:51 lardman|gone: it's doing something (wrong). All encoded frames are identical Aug 15 17:07:56 timeless: yes Aug 15 17:08:02 and now I'm gone Aug 15 17:20:02 * pupnik makes big sad puppy eyes... "ogg gstreamer dspsink pleeez??" Aug 15 17:20:37 yet another game that uses ogg - wormux worms clone: http://pupnik.de/wormux_menu.png Aug 15 17:22:15 cool, that in a repo? Aug 15 17:24:06 no Aug 15 17:24:14 i just got it running Aug 15 17:25:14 are you n800 owners ok with apps installing game data to /media/mmc1/games/ ? Aug 15 17:25:58 i am, but you better tell me when the installer runs Aug 15 17:26:07 arguably better is a folder picker that defaults there Aug 15 17:26:19 pupnik, will it run on mameo 2.0 ? Aug 15 17:26:23 pupnik: ask. I might prefer mmc2 Aug 15 17:26:28 * monteslu is a lowly 770 owner Aug 15 17:26:48 it might be too slow for 770 monteslu - it's still crashing on game start Aug 15 17:26:52 <`0660> i'd rather have it in mmc2 Aug 15 17:26:58 ok i'll write an installer with dialog Aug 15 17:45:32 disq: poke Aug 15 17:59:46 pupnik: just an ogg parser or do you want a decoder for some codec too?-) Aug 15 18:02:31 well libvorbisidec as a dsp-sink Aug 15 18:02:43 decoding ogg takes up about 12% cpu on 770 Aug 15 18:03:01 you mean vorbis? Aug 15 18:03:12 yeah ogg vorbis :) Aug 15 18:03:19 ogg is just a container Aug 15 18:03:23 i know Aug 15 18:03:31 ogg is a container, vorbis is the co[dec] Aug 15 18:04:12 unfortunately nokia do not give us info on how to build dsp sinks Aug 15 18:04:23 i wish i could try kagu Aug 15 18:04:25 * pupnik launches a dead cow over the castle wall Aug 15 18:05:03 anyone got a clue on fixing the bug with the package? Aug 15 18:09:44 try installing package with dpkg -i Aug 15 18:19:19 still fails to configure Aug 15 18:19:22 and by configure i mean run Aug 15 18:19:29 the postinst script runs kagu-scanner Aug 15 18:19:33 and that fails with a python syntax error Aug 15 18:20:15 so hacker can be installed by just downloading the fiasco image and flashing it with nokia update wizard? Aug 15 18:22:00 solmumaha: yep. Aug 15 18:22:06 k, thx Aug 15 18:22:24 i wouldnt suggest it though... im halfway between power-user and dev, and the state of packages on hacker edition just wasnt comfortable for me Aug 15 18:22:51 oh Aug 15 18:24:04 how is stability? Aug 15 18:24:43 i'm making it a navigator, not installing that much stuff on it Aug 15 18:26:22 well i can always reflash back Aug 15 18:27:10 stability was slightly worse than 2.2 Aug 15 18:27:17 and yeah, you can just flash back Aug 15 18:27:25 it was an enlightening experiment to try it for a few days Aug 15 18:29:20 well i have n800 too, just got 770 today Aug 15 18:32:34 actually 5 of them, hope i wasn't the one with wsod Aug 15 18:33:18 agree on the stability Aug 15 18:33:46 pupnik, et al https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1831 Aug 15 18:33:49 how does that read? Aug 15 18:34:37 * pupnik blinks at all the text Aug 15 18:34:38 * timeless curses Aug 15 18:34:50 i need to actually check out this entire thing? Aug 15 18:35:26 so this is a patch you made to Index: mozilla/trunk/microb-l10n/l10n2/da/locale/da/global/about.dtd? Aug 15 18:40:06 pupnik: let's for try to get a vorbis decoder working in the DSP side. Once we have that and it seems to be efficient enough, we can try get it directly using the audio stuff on dsp.. Aug 15 18:40:24 currently there's nothing open source running on the dsp side.. Aug 15 18:42:58 should we mail to the vorbis guys asking if they have any dsp implementations of it? Aug 15 18:43:10 The 3.2 sdk relase did not have a rootstrap anymore right? Aug 15 18:43:12 or would it be possible to dumbly compile vorbisidec c code? Aug 15 18:56:16 so, did anyone read my bug? :) Aug 15 18:57:15 pupnik: http://wiki.xiph.org/index.php/Tremor Aug 15 18:58:51 i read it timeless and understood it not Aug 15 18:59:02 ? :(~ Aug 15 18:59:05 what part didn't make sense? Aug 15 19:16:37 Anyone found wifi driver that supports injection? Aug 15 19:20:15 timeless: good hacking guide :-) Aug 15 19:20:34 sparrw: Kagu is messed up for you too? Aug 15 19:20:57 timeless what hacking guide are u talking about? Aug 15 19:21:11 https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1831 Aug 15 19:21:16 thanks Aug 15 19:21:45 trevarthan: yes. and i filed a bug on it Aug 15 19:21:46 sparrw: you got a paste of that python error? I'd like to see it. Aug 15 19:21:50