**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Sep 05 02:59:56 2007 Sep 05 03:02:52 setite: oh, no sorry, its RHEL based Sep 05 03:02:57 setite: I meant another distro Sep 05 03:03:10 setite: for scratchbox, I suggest people to use a debian-based distro Sep 05 03:03:26 like Debian, MEPIS, or Ubuntu Sep 05 03:03:34 many more, just not going to list them all (: Sep 05 06:50:18 milhouse: ping Sep 05 07:15:15 qgil: why can't I get email notifications from the wiki page editions? Sep 05 07:18:09 kulve: edits? Sep 05 07:18:20 (an edition is a different animal) Sep 05 07:18:45 whatever Sep 05 07:44:55 Erk, the Foleo's been cancelled. Sep 05 07:46:27 ye Sep 05 07:48:06 * keesj is going for a month long brasil holliday next work Sep 05 07:48:20 I wonder if and what gadget to take with me Sep 05 07:48:50 Not a Foleo ;-) Sep 05 07:49:38 heehee Sep 05 07:49:40 I am thinking about taking the 770 Sep 05 07:50:57 it has longer battery life. I just would love to do more programming on the device itself Sep 05 07:51:50 pic programming is what I have been doing lately, perhaps I can port http://www.dattalo.com/gnupic/gpsim.html to the arm Sep 05 07:53:52 Jaffa: technically shelved, no? :) Sep 05 08:03:02 Jaffa: after reading http://blog.palm.com/palm/2007/09/a-message-to-pa.html I think more companies should make such choices Sep 05 08:03:44 it almoost sounds like a rational not money/time to market driven choice. Sep 05 08:04:26 I have been thinking a lot about maemo/openmoko and what is structuraly wrong with them Sep 05 08:05:39 keesj: the list is shorter if you ask what is structurally right with them :) Sep 05 08:05:49 haha Sep 05 08:06:19 I just try to imagine what would be require for such a product to work in an open-source context Sep 05 08:06:46 the real great mamo stuff was all created by nokia and affiliates. Sep 05 08:07:07 maemo? Sep 05 08:07:08 <_Monkey> maemo is at maemo.org or Open Source Software Sep 05 08:07:12 shut up Sep 05 08:07:40 maemo-mapper being a great exeption , also some nice media players where created Sep 05 08:07:58 out of curiosity, which good things can you list for maemo from nokia? Sep 05 08:08:04 thoose are the real things in the open-source context "do one thing well" Sep 05 08:08:43 keesj, mtpaint would be nice Sep 05 08:09:00 * timelyx still wants gimpshop Sep 05 08:09:02 timelyx: I think that they UI is pretty consistent , the talk stuff , the concept Sep 05 08:10:18 the thumb keyboard, the browser, the games. media-streamer, they just are more finished / adapted to the platform Sep 05 08:10:37 * timelyx ponders Sep 05 08:10:48 out of curiosity, what's your view on rhapsody? Sep 05 08:11:07 (from memory it's basically just a media streamer consumer, but...) Sep 05 08:11:17 a product for us customers? Sep 05 08:11:26 US Sep 05 08:11:28 yes Sep 05 08:11:41 sorry, I was able to beta it here in Finland Sep 05 08:11:43 I havent' tried it Sep 05 08:11:45 benefit of being an employee :) Sep 05 08:12:07 if you're in the us and have an n800, give it a try Sep 05 08:12:25 Feh, vacation over, only ~1500 emails waiting to be processed :/ Sep 05 08:12:26 I an in Amsterdam Sep 05 08:12:46 Fortunately most of them are not of importance Sep 05 08:12:55 inz: « Back to Search results Report SpamDelete Ð Newer 20 of tens of thousands Older ð Sep 05 08:12:59 the whole maemo trip for me has been more like being in a bus and not being the driver Sep 05 08:13:42 I like what I see , I like to drive a bit but I am not a bus driver. Sep 05 08:13:54 nice analogy Sep 05 08:14:03 what OS do you personally steer? Sep 05 08:14:46 timelyx, they're not spam, but notifications et al Sep 05 08:15:22 inz: yeah, but look at it this way Sep 05 08:15:28 gmail say i have tens of thousands of things to read Sep 05 08:15:34 and i'm about to *start* my vacation Sep 05 08:15:54 xD Sep 05 08:16:08 pupnik: for work I create driver/fix bugs of a linux based PND(personal navigation device) Sep 05 08:16:16 inz: the worst part... i *musT* check mail weekly Sep 05 08:16:22 cool Sep 05 08:16:28 otherwise my primary inbox will fill up and start bouncing 9/10 emails Sep 05 08:17:50 time, yeah, that would be nasty (expect that amount of spam sent to your address might reduce) Sep 05 08:18:20 s/pec/cep/ Sep 05 08:18:20 inz meant: time, yeah, that would be nasty (except that amount of spam sent to your address might reduce) Sep 05 08:18:30 grr Sep 05 08:19:04 inz: spam relative to ham in this case is noise i never notice Sep 05 08:19:25 timelyx: I just really wonder what should be expected from the community/me Sep 05 08:19:56 keesj: well, pick a smaller bus Sep 05 08:19:59 More unit sales = more developers. This *is* a one-product OS, is it not? Sep 05 08:20:02 are you interested in helping the browser? Sep 05 08:20:24 keesj: i.e. go through bugs.maemo.org and pick either a product or a component Sep 05 08:20:36 once you've picked 1 or 2, let me know and i'll give you suggestions Sep 05 08:20:38 (seriously) Sep 05 08:20:49 it'll be easier on me if you choose browser, but i can work w/ anything Sep 05 08:20:55 you have 40mins. i need to go to work Sep 05 08:21:27 oh, and you only have today. i'll be on vacation for a month and don't have a hotel reservation for friday night :( Sep 05 08:21:47 :P Sep 05 08:22:31 good morning Sep 05 08:22:53 morning AD-N770 Sep 05 08:23:00 keesj: practically speaking, the list is something like this: Sep 05 08:23:10 1. converting bug reports into actionable items Sep 05 08:23:19 AD-N770: i saw you had some ASM skills - do you know if there is a way to do profiling on the device? Sep 05 08:23:32 2. reducing problems to even more specifically fixable items Sep 05 08:23:37 pupnik: oprofile Sep 05 08:23:38 3. finding and fixing them yourself Sep 05 08:24:09 4. discovering inconsistencies that aren't reported (either within an app or across the platform) and reporting them Sep 05 08:24:14 AD-N770: do i need to download an 'oprofile kernel' or compile one myself? Sep 05 08:24:27 5. checking the documentation for an app and reporting bugs about areas where it's wrong Sep 05 08:24:28 I compiled one myself Sep 05 08:24:37 but there's one compiled too Sep 05 08:24:49 6. checking the documentation and determining where it's missing important sections (file bugs) Sep 05 08:24:54 you can boot it without flash the unit Sep 05 08:25:09 those are the easy ones Sep 05 08:25:11 Ok thanks - i saw some mailing list chatter about it - but only problems and no howto Sep 05 08:25:22 7. offering suggestions for actually fixing 5/6 Sep 05 08:30:51 I just looked a the last +/- 100 filled bug, I think there is only one what would be fixable by me (Mouse support (Bluetooth and on 770 USB support)) Sep 05 08:34:12 timelyx: one full month? what kind of company are you working for :p Sep 05 08:34:47 european. it's 4 weeks plus weekends at both ends Sep 05 08:37:54 Does anybody have a multimeter and N800 wired headset? Sep 05 09:11:49 morning. Alternative for doing updates via App Mgr one-by-one? IT2006 Sep 05 09:12:25 red pill mode active Sep 05 09:12:52 matmo: heh Sep 05 09:13:06 matmo: find some meta package that depends on the things you want updated Sep 05 09:13:10 or heck, write one :) Sep 05 09:13:28 matmo: xterm + apt-get ? Sep 05 09:13:58 apt-get for *all* updates? Not familiar apart from basics Sep 05 09:14:43 AD-N770: you pinged me when I was on vacation Sep 05 09:15:16 matmo: if you're feeling suicidal... Sep 05 09:15:20 there's a magic:sys package Sep 05 09:15:29 which may or may not convert your device into a pretty brick Sep 05 09:15:36 otoh, it might do something resembling what you want Sep 05 09:15:43 timelyx: arh, hope to avoid that :-) Sep 05 09:16:00 where to find this magic package? Sep 05 09:16:01 not sure, I can't remember now :) Sep 05 09:16:03 matmo: personally, i like bricks Sep 05 09:16:12 matmo: at least in 2007 it's listed in redpill Sep 05 09:16:22 i suppose it might have been introduced after 2006 Sep 05 09:16:50 http://hildon-app-mgr.garage.maemo.org/redpill.html Sep 05 09:16:52 talks about them Sep 05 09:17:28 no such package listed in app mgr for 2006. Thanks, I'll check the link out. Sep 05 09:18:00 matmo: feeling experimental? here is it2007 app manager compiled for 2006: http://download.talinux.tal.org/pub/maemo/dists/gregale/experimental/binary-armel/osso-application-installer_4.46_armel.deb Sep 05 09:18:09 There are about 3 dozen packages listed as updates in app mgr. Manually, I will still be here tomorrow Sep 05 09:18:26 onion: ok, thanks, I'll check it out Sep 05 09:18:48 matmo: aptitude is probably the alternative Sep 05 09:18:56 if you can find someone like onion who can build it for you :) Sep 05 09:18:57 but don't complain if it bricks your device.. Sep 05 09:19:10 onion: that's the spirit :) Sep 05 09:19:25 works-for-me :) Sep 05 09:19:39 why should it brick the device? Won't it only apply updates correct for 2006? Sep 05 09:20:05 beta code Sep 05 09:20:07 no guarantees Sep 05 09:20:20 and you're assuming things that you might have changed Sep 05 09:20:26 matmo: well, it's not official for 2006 Sep 05 09:20:44 there's a nice page from mozilla.org that describes what can happen to you if you use beta code Sep 05 09:20:44 but i can't find it Sep 05 09:21:13 and nokias funny way of using gettext breakes some strings Sep 05 09:21:16 is there no "official" way to get all updates? Sep 05 09:21:33 matmo: just use apt-get upgrade as root Sep 05 09:21:47 matmo: correct Sep 05 09:22:01 matmo: the key is that if you've done anything interesting, e.g. added repositories Sep 05 09:22:06 then all bets are off Sep 05 09:22:18 and it's fairly easy to brick any debian based system if you mix repositories Sep 05 09:22:21 sure I've added repo's, who hasn't? Sep 05 09:22:28 tablet, server, laptop, it doesn't matter Sep 05 09:22:34 right. therein lies the fun and excitement Sep 05 09:22:56 timelyx: well, not many repos touch critical system packages Sep 05 09:23:15 onion: one of the n800 repositories broke opera for a while :) Sep 05 09:23:18 my repo does but... Sep 05 09:23:28 i mean, it's not like i care about opera, but some of our users did :o Sep 05 09:23:37 gstreamer update to latest release :) Sep 05 09:24:28 I have cert, non-cert, canola, herring, gregale, bora, etc, etc Sep 05 09:24:56 I like my software fresh... Sep 05 09:31:35 i like my software dead Sep 05 09:31:35 http://www.mozilla.org/unix/using-x-with-mozilla-threads.html Sep 05 09:33:56 I needed libgstapp and that required a new gst Sep 05 09:34:17 so, if you want to do an upgrade, you probably want to limit the number of enabled repositories Sep 05 09:34:29 are you programming for the dsp onion? Sep 05 09:34:35 having repositories while installing is all fine and dandy Sep 05 09:34:49 but having them while upgrading is asking for more trouble than you want Sep 05 09:35:57 timelyx: so which ones should I leave enabled? Sep 05 09:35:57 do packages get updated enough to warrant an upgrade? Sep 05 09:36:16 pupnik: no, I needed an easy way to play speach buffers from libespeak Sep 05 09:36:22 ah Sep 05 09:36:46 libespeak is text-to-speech? Sep 05 09:36:56 pupnik: yes Sep 05 09:42:25 sod it, trying: apt-get upgrade Sep 05 09:42:51 whizzing along now Sep 05 09:43:34 (can't hold my breath this long) Sep 05 09:44:03 oops, rebooting Sep 05 09:44:17 matmo: not always a good idea ;) Sep 05 09:44:25 (to apt-get upgrade) Sep 05 09:44:30 Veggen: too late Sep 05 09:45:29 nokia, white screen, nokia, white screen, ... guess I'm fuk'ed Sep 05 09:46:46 matmo: :( Sep 05 09:47:05 :-( indeed Sep 05 09:47:15 matmo: well, that sucks Sep 05 09:47:52 so, what now? Sep 05 09:48:10 reflash Sep 05 09:48:14 sell it to meeee Sep 05 09:49:02 something I've been doing lately too many times... Sep 05 09:49:44 oooo, it's gone to charging screen now Sep 05 09:50:04 keeps connecting then disconnecting on usb Sep 05 09:50:23 schitzo fuk'ing thing Sep 05 09:50:27 wonder how loong it takes to get my old one back from warranty. any .fi nokia folks that might know how loong it takes ? Sep 05 09:51:09 matmo: yeah, I got mine to go into a endles reboot loop after a normal shutdown Sep 05 09:51:40 onion: how did you get out of it Sep 05 09:51:47 matmo: guess Sep 05 09:51:56 reflash! Sep 05 09:52:04 with the usb problem? Sep 05 09:52:27 usb was ok.. Sep 05 09:52:49 matmo: it won't go into flashing mode ? Sep 05 09:53:01 see above Sep 05 09:53:18 Hi Sep 05 09:54:07 onion: we don't really deal w/ factory / warrantee you're much better off asking a normal person Sep 05 09:54:16 we have people internally who will replace hardware components Sep 05 09:54:25 matmo: try removing the battery Sep 05 09:54:43 onion: welcome to debian goodness Sep 05 09:54:45 timelyx: ok Sep 05 09:54:58 oh, oops w/onion/matmo/ Sep 05 09:55:10 seems to have settled once I started the updater Sep 05 09:55:12 please tell me any body how can i integrate libjpeg example.c with maemo project. please....... Sep 05 09:55:23 Briget: eh? Sep 05 09:55:28 maemo includes libjpeg Sep 05 09:55:33 ya Sep 05 09:56:06 but when i build the project then i got some error Sep 05 09:56:41 matmo: I hope you have a backup Sep 05 09:57:22 timelyx: you wouldn Sep 05 09:57:28 äh.. Sep 05 09:57:42 Briget: the makefile should -l link libjpeg Sep 05 09:57:52 finnetic ahhs, how eenteresting Sep 05 09:57:54 timelyx: 't happen to know if the touchscreen failing is a common failure for the 770 ? Sep 05 09:58:00 like undefined refference to "jpeg_std_error(&jerr)..." Sep 05 09:58:06 onion: if i knew i most certainly couldn't say Sep 05 09:58:16 my 770s touchscreen failed because of water damage last winter Sep 05 09:58:17 ok :) Sep 05 09:58:24 i used it in the snow in helsinki, it was fine Sep 05 09:58:34 but i took it inside and in the morning, the touchscreen was dead Sep 05 09:58:38 i believe it's fairly rare Sep 05 09:58:43 actually i m newbie. can you please tell me what should i do now. Sep 05 09:58:54 btw, the user manual explicitly says not to do things like that :) Sep 05 09:59:08 undefined reference often means the required library is not being linked-in Sep 05 09:59:12 the ts on my older 770 failed nicely, just where backspace and enter is Sep 05 09:59:26 onion: hrm Sep 05 09:59:34 the n800 touchscreens were worse in that respect Sep 05 09:59:42 and like a circle in the middle of the screen Sep 05 09:59:52 4.2007 had fixes for them Sep 05 10:00:10 if it's the same general idea, then maybe the next hacker edition (if such a thing happens) would be helpful Sep 05 10:00:37 does your project use a Makefile Briget ? Sep 05 10:00:39 timelyx: well, comparing with my new 770 the ts on the old was totaly broken Sep 05 10:00:57 pupnik : would you like to have some time to give me solution. pls Sep 05 10:01:10 ya Sep 05 10:01:10 i don't know what the problem is, Briget Sep 05 10:01:13 ok Sep 05 10:01:15 timelyx: the new just needs a slight tap, the old required much more presure Sep 05 10:01:30 onion: hrm,.... that's the general problem the n800s had Sep 05 10:01:42 but afaik no one has really reported such problems about 770s Sep 05 10:01:57 my 770s screen was entirely touch dead Sep 05 10:02:03 (presumably a short or equivalent) Sep 05 10:02:27 display was fine, but os 2006 doesn't support touchscreenless use, so it wasn't useful Sep 05 10:02:44 Briget: somewhere in your Makefile you should have -llibjpeg (i think) and if not you should look for a line where other libraries are linked - Sep 05 10:02:52 then add -llibjpeg to that Sep 05 10:03:04 ok Sep 05 10:03:10 you may or may not need a -L too ? Sep 05 10:03:40 Briget: reporting the given error message would be good Sep 05 10:03:41 i can't remember the difference :/ Sep 05 10:05:27 -L is a directory to search for libraries to link Sep 05 10:05:37 well, of to get some lunch Sep 05 10:06:01 * timelyx doesn't know or care where the library lives, but the linker will :) Sep 05 10:06:14 -llibname will link just that library Sep 05 10:06:19 probably what you want in this case Sep 05 10:07:57 ah -L is a directory (or list of them) in which to search for the -llib Sep 05 10:08:04 LIBRARY_PATH is also used Sep 05 10:08:20 i think, according to the man page Sep 05 10:12:20 Pupnik: i check my makefile but there libjpeg is not included Sep 05 10:12:50 will i add there -libjpeg ? Sep 05 10:13:17 -ljpeg Sep 05 10:13:29 don't add the "lib" bit Sep 05 10:13:54 but you do need the "-l" to tell it to link a library Sep 05 10:13:59 hi lard man this _test . thank you for helping me Sep 05 10:14:20 Briget: Np, did you get it working? Sep 05 10:14:42 ya, Sep 05 10:14:47 good Sep 05 10:15:13 but as i m new i face lots of problems Sep 05 10:15:15 reflashed. Well that was not nice Sep 05 10:17:04 Briget: Best way to learn is trying it Sep 05 10:18:03 ya... Sep 05 10:22:12 kulve: You about? Sep 05 10:22:39 kulve: Do you have any data on the speed differences between word and ipbuf transfers? Sep 05 10:24:08 no, I didn't check that Sep 05 10:25:06 I need to transfer arguments to functions on the DSP side, I could pack them and the command in a buffer, but will only fit the command in a word Sep 05 10:25:40 With that said, I may just set aside a small amount of shared memory as a parameter buffer and get the DSP to look at the data there when it receives a command Sep 05 10:26:04 Will save altering anything else (which is good as I've had too many re-starts now!) Sep 05 10:36:49 does the DSP allow you to see the load? i.e. a 'top' command>? Sep 05 10:37:06 pupnik: there's something similar, under the sysfs entry Sep 05 10:37:28 /sys/devices/platform/dsp/cpuload iirc Sep 05 10:37:45 that path may be a bit screwed up actually Sep 05 10:37:57 looking now - interesting stuff :) Sep 05 10:39:21 path is correct but i have no cpuload on 770 it2006se Sep 05 10:39:33 anything with cpu in it? Sep 05 10:39:40 cpustat shows "RUN" Sep 05 10:39:50 maybe i need to play something via dsp first Sep 05 10:39:58 no Sep 05 10:40:17 loadinfo - aah Sep 05 10:40:50 my mistake, sorry Sep 05 10:41:58 1min average = 123.82% idling Sep 05 10:42:13 hmm, interesting maths there Sep 05 10:42:26 busiest 10ms 617% Sep 05 10:43:03 I've got odd numbers too Sep 05 10:47:14 mplayer mp3dsp playback for youtube vids is around 28% Sep 05 10:47:52 youtube does not use mp3dsp, it uses pcm Sep 05 10:48:19 you can force it to use the DSP from mplayer Sep 05 10:48:47 at least that's what I remember Sep 05 10:48:51 ah, youre talking about mplayer, not flash Sep 05 10:48:51 ok. i saw a message from mplayer saying Selected audio codec: [dspmp3] afm: dspmp3 (MP3 audio pass-through for Nokia 770) Sep 05 10:50:21 so the high cpu when idle is probably just a maths error Sep 05 10:50:36 pupnik: I imagine so, it should be in the kernel source somewhere Sep 05 10:50:52 pupnik: Unless it's done in the avs_kernel Sep 05 10:55:07 well that gives a very rought idea of the performance Sep 05 10:55:20 it's in the omap patch Sep 05 10:55:34 though the raw data is from the DSP Sep 05 10:55:42 http://www.muru.com/linux/omap/patches/patch-2.6.22-omap1.bz2 Sep 05 10:55:46 for example Sep 05 10:56:29 line 43944 - definition of loadinfo_show() Sep 05 10:58:06 playering a slightly higher quality 22050khz mono mp3 gives 33% Sep 05 10:58:13 with gstreamer plugin Sep 05 10:58:22 i mean dspmp3sink Sep 05 11:00:47 could the DSP map say 8MB of memory for a wave based midi player? Sep 05 11:01:12 pupnik: Not sure how much it can map, but in theory yes Sep 05 11:01:58 ok. the full blown timidity can chew up to 50% of the 770 CPU, but i've also gotten some songs to play at around 12% cpu. Sep 05 11:02:11 so it should be doable for at least a subset of MIDI music Sep 05 11:03:32 yeah, you should be able to send the track data to the DSP and it will return pcm data Sep 05 11:03:40 let it do the number crunching Sep 05 11:05:55 yeah multi-channel sample playback is just copy, multiply, add Sep 05 11:08:52 pitched playback without filtering/interpolation is trivial too. then you need envelopes and loops which are also simple Sep 05 11:09:21 you need to be able to chop up the processing into chunks so that it plays fairly with the DSP gateway Sep 05 11:11:20 a midi/mod player would be a great project Sep 05 11:11:24 ... for someone else! :P Sep 05 11:12:00 why not you? ;) Sep 05 11:12:45 i'll think about it. it is tempting. Sep 05 11:13:40 If you sketch out some code, we'll be happy to help out with the dsp link, then the next step is to make sure the code will run on the dsp Sep 05 11:13:57 i.e. nothing smaller than 16bit data Sep 05 11:15:36 ok a barebones midi player on the ARM shouldn't be too hard... will let you know if i come up with something Sep 05 11:15:56 good good, the more the merrier! Sep 05 11:27:33 pupnik: Hmm, looking at midi, doesn't one need a load of pre-generated sounds available? Sep 05 11:27:52 Or some way of generating them, but to a specific format Sep 05 11:28:07 lardman: in example.c outpath is outfile but i want to write the output to a char pointer how could i do that Sep 05 11:28:36 Briget: where's the code? Sep 05 11:28:36 <_Monkey> i guess the code is clean, simple Sep 05 11:29:31 lardman: there are open-source / creative commons soundfonts available in 2MB, 8MB and larger sizes Sep 05 11:29:38 in my project Sep 05 11:30:07 Briget: Let's see it then, either an url or paste it on pastebin.com Sep 05 11:30:18 ok Sep 05 11:30:20 lardman: they can also be synthesized at load-time via various software synthesizers Sep 05 11:30:31 pupnik: yes, that's what I was thinking Sep 05 11:30:47 i will paste it to pastebin Sep 05 11:30:59 pupnik: would make the code more complex though, might be best to use existing data first of all Sep 05 11:32:04 Kobo deluxe synthesizes the sounds at load time, which makes game start-up take about 5 minutes. (heh) Sep 05 11:32:37 I was thinking of synthesis at run-time Sep 05 11:32:54 but that would probably be too intensive Sep 05 11:33:08 Lardman: I have pasted it. Sep 05 11:33:15 Briget: URL? Sep 05 11:33:28 http://pastebin.com/d32f78099 Sep 05 11:33:40 please check it. Sep 05 11:34:05 so what do you want to do? Sep 05 11:34:50 ya . i want to returned the comprssed image as char pointer Sep 05 11:34:55 write to a buffer rather than a file? Sep 05 11:35:02 ya ya ya Sep 05 11:35:15 you r too good man Sep 05 11:38:45 One presumes that by altering the dest_mgr you could write to a buffer rather than a file in a specific format Sep 05 11:39:53 ya Sep 05 11:42:27 Briget: Look in libjpeg.doc Sep 05 11:42:53 Briget: it tells you how to make your data destination manager Sep 05 11:43:54 ok , i just now libjpeg.doc again Sep 05 11:44:00 thanks Sep 05 11:44:10 np Sep 05 11:45:57 Briget: Look at jdatadst.c which is the stdio data destination Sep 05 11:46:16 ok, thanks Sep 05 11:49:14 Briget: there must also be pre-written code about on the interweb Sep 05 11:52:34 pupnik: Did you look at that omap patch? Sep 05 11:52:47 pupnik: Looks like the DSP load goes from 0->10000 Sep 05 11:52:50 ya. ya. i m checking it Sep 05 11:53:30 pupnik: I've no idea why it produces funny figures, but it's probably on the DSP itself Sep 05 11:56:00 i did not.. strange! Sep 05 11:56:08 hi+ Sep 05 11:58:03 lardman : in jpeg_stdio_dest (j_compress_ptr cinfo, FILE * outfile) method output is written to a out file but i need to write output to buffer so can i use a buffer instead of a filea Sep 05 11:58:19 file Sep 05 11:59:15 Briget: Well define your own set of callback functions, and rather than writing to a file do a memcpy from the jpeg temporary buffer to your buffer Sep 05 11:59:40 ya Sep 05 11:59:51 thank you Sep 05 12:06:41 lardman: here pixbuf_data->save("image", "jpeg",err) pixbuf can be saved as ppm/bmp format rather than jpeg format ? Sep 05 12:11:35 Moooooo-orning Sep 05 12:25:55 What repo has libreadline for os2007? Sep 05 12:32:04 I am trying to install sqllite, but the installer complains about libreadline can't be found. Sep 05 12:36:06 repositories? Sep 05 12:36:06 <_Monkey> repositories are not just a job, but an adventure! Add some for big win! http://maemo.org/community/wiki/ApplicationRepositories Sep 05 12:36:08 repository? Sep 05 12:38:01 repository? Sep 05 12:38:02 <_Monkey> i think repository is http://maemo.org/community/wiki/ApplicationRepositories and a searchable index at http://www.gronmayer.com/n800/repos/index.php Sep 05 12:38:50 robl^ see the searchable index for info Sep 05 12:40:53 Ahhh thanks for the searchable Sep 05 13:00:44 Hrmmmm. The repo search only found libreadline5...but sqllite needs 4 Sep 05 13:01:07 hi Sep 05 13:01:15 i almost always see things using 5 Sep 05 13:01:17 ... The superscalar processor core is said to generate almost double the performance per MHz compared to previous generation versions, featuring deeper pipelines, higher frequency and dedicated Level 2 cache. Sep 05 13:01:21 The processor runs at 550MHz, rather than the typical 330 MHz for the OMAP 2 processors. Sep 05 13:01:28 someone know the name of package or repository for E17 see this http://members.iinet.net.au/~haste/nokia770.png Sep 05 13:01:41 Hai Sep 05 13:02:05 * pupnik is getting dizzy with lust for OMAP 3430 Sep 05 13:02:56 ? Sep 05 13:03:02 Hehehe Sep 05 13:04:38 gonna be as fast as an anno 1999 desktop PC Sep 05 13:05:40 will that be in the nokia N900 Sep 05 13:05:48 i don't know Sep 05 13:06:25 N800 is still too new for any news leaks Sep 05 13:07:46 but that cache and the core speed will mean good console emulation Sep 05 13:07:48 I look like a freak... Carrying an N800, and 2 blackberry devices...almost as many gadgets as Batman's utility belt Sep 05 13:08:00 why 2? Sep 05 13:08:54 One is work only, other is personal...but the n800 has almost replaced the personal one Sep 05 13:33:28 ls Sep 05 13:33:49 cypherbios: . Sep 05 13:33:51 cypherbios: .. Sep 05 13:34:35 ops, sorry, xchat window is not a console window :) Sep 05 13:37:19 someone know the name of package or repository for E17 see this http://members.iinet.net.au/~haste/nokia770.png ???????? Sep 05 13:39:16 GS: I'm not sure, but I guess it is vnc over another Linux computer Sep 05 13:40:12 cypherbios, mmm i0m not sure Sep 05 13:40:59 "Rasterman is doing a great work porting E17 to N800" Sep 05 13:41:26