**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Sep 07 02:59:56 2007
Sep 07 06:33:25 <lle2> hey, those that demand a "better touchscreen", is it that you want a more sensitive or more accurate or both? How would you characterize "better"?
Sep 07 06:37:37 <zuh> "multitouch" ;)
Sep 07 06:40:50 <tso> ye gods
Sep 07 06:41:13 <tso> why not we all just go and buy ourselfs "ipod touch"?
Sep 07 06:41:56 <tso> heh, itt seems to be buzzing with ipod talk...
Sep 07 06:45:17 <pupnik> is there an anti-shake filter for mencoder?  google is just giving me a bunch of windows software - or any anti-shake software for *nix?
Sep 07 06:45:57 * pupnik agrees with lle2 - 'better touchscreen' is too vague to even register
Sep 07 06:46:16 <pupnik> mine works just fine, thank you
Sep 07 06:58:43 <pupnik> so far the only thing i found was virtualdub for wine, which supposedly has a plugin for anti-shake
Sep 07 08:03:20 <keesj> Goede morgen
Sep 07 08:05:50 <guru3> Good morning
Sep 07 08:17:39 <AD-N770> good morning
Sep 07 08:23:17 <pupnik> morning AD-N770
Sep 07 08:23:32 <keesj> funny thinking of if , the ipod "wheel" really looks like the old school phones that had the round number thing
Sep 07 08:27:25 <tso> ah, pulse based dialing...
Sep 07 08:28:56 <keesj> yes, my english is still not that good, and irc'ing does't rly help :p
Sep 07 08:29:39 <jani> ircing is really bad for written english in my case =)
Sep 07 08:32:32 <pupnik> I'd like to see a comparison of standard written english test scores between European students (who take it as a second language) and americans
Sep 07 08:34:16 <inz> I wouldn't, I already concider yankees inferior ;)
Sep 07 08:36:14 <jani> they cant even spell colour =)
Sep 07 08:45:33 <UniqueMobil> inferior
Sep 07 08:45:33 <UniqueMobil> an where are you from inz?
Sep 07 08:45:47 <UniqueMobil> pupnik the comparison would not work.  2 different type of english.
Sep 07 08:46:03 <UniqueMobil> inz, you were denied entry to the states or something?
Sep 07 08:46:07 <UniqueMobil> family member killed in a war the US was involved un
Sep 07 08:46:09 <UniqueMobil> ?
Sep 07 08:47:04 <pupnik> Actually the pisa study has a test of standard english (TSE) that has been adapted to both US and British english
Sep 07 08:47:15 <pupnik> A quick web search didn't turn up results though
Sep 07 08:50:54 <pupnik> In reading proficiency (native language) Finland is #1.  USA is slightly above european average.  And germany is below average.  :P
Sep 07 08:51:24 <pupnik> http://www.oecd.org/document/8/0,2340,en_2649_34515_2675400_1_1_1_1,00.html
Sep 07 08:55:05 <inz> Unique, see the ";)" at the end of the line
Sep 07 08:55:24 <inz> Unique, and the only time I went to US, I was granted entry
Sep 07 08:58:17 <UniqueMobil> winky or no winky, still an insult to call a people inferior..
Sep 07 08:59:05 <jani> germany has so many immigrants so i guess thats why they have lower score..
Sep 07 08:59:41 <UniqueMobil> usually when comments like that are made. person has a grudge against america because of something.
Sep 07 09:00:30 <inz> Unique, I only dislike the president
Sep 07 09:01:01 <UniqueMobil> he is a yankee...no doubt about that..
Sep 07 09:01:35 <UniqueMobil> inferior..????
Sep 07 09:01:54 <inz> Unique, bad choice of words, I'm sorry about that
Sep 07 09:02:07 <inz> Unique, didn't mean to insult anyone
Sep 07 09:02:53 <inz> Unique, I do not concider anyone to be inferior or superior
Sep 07 09:03:14 <UniqueMobil> im not american..
Sep 07 09:03:14 <UniqueMobil> just a proud resident..
Sep 07 09:12:22 <Lynoure> Finnish is easy to read :)
Sep 07 09:12:34 <zeenix> Lynoure: yeah! right
Sep 07 09:12:58 <Lynoure> zeenix: On se. :)
Sep 07 09:13:08 <UniqueMobil> the president is from texas..way too much sun..i know its not the best excuse... but im sticking to it, inz
Sep 07 09:13:48 <zeenix> Lynoure: try pronouncing 'hyvää yötä' correctly
Sep 07 09:14:20 <Lynoure> zeenix: Mä olen syntyperäinen, oikeasti.
Sep 07 09:14:36 <Lynoure> zeenix: I'm a native, it's easy.
Sep 07 09:15:16 <Lynoure> zeenix: there is pretty much 1 to 1 mapping between spelling and pronouncing, unlike in English.
Sep 07 09:15:54 <pyhimys> ghoti anyone?
Sep 07 09:16:26 <Lynoure> pyhimys: some ghoti is really good, halibut especially. :)
Sep 07 09:16:38 <zeenix> Lynoure: oh! that is different than, easy for you to say
Sep 07 09:17:11 <zeenix> Lynoure: what you mentioned is pretty much the only 'easy' thing about finnish
Sep 07 09:17:41 <Lynoure> zeenix: yes, I did mean it's objectively an easy native language to read (as the reading proficiency was tested with natives reading their own language)
Sep 07 09:18:00 <Lynoure> zeenix: well, the grammar is also very regular.
Sep 07 09:18:20 <UniqueMobil> Lynoure, what is ghoti?
Sep 07 09:18:43 <pyhimys> UniqueMobil: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghoti
Sep 07 09:18:55 <UniqueMobil> thanks
Sep 07 09:19:52 <Juhaz> and it _follows_ the grammar rules, there are no ten billion weird exceptions for no reason like in English.
Sep 07 09:20:34 * zeenix wishes his parents knew about finland and that he'll move there
Sep 07 09:23:59 <UniqueMobil> the ten billion weird exceptions for no reason.
Sep 07 09:24:09 <Lynoure> zeenix: you can move here yourself, at some point, if you wish :)
Sep 07 09:24:25 <zeenix> Lynoure: i already have, 2 year ago :)
Sep 07 09:25:04 <Lynoure> zeenix: oh, misunderstood you then :)
Sep 07 09:25:13 <UniqueMobil> american englisg
Sep 07 09:25:17 <UniqueMobil> or
Sep 07 09:25:46 <UniqueMobil> british, old english
Sep 07 09:26:04 <Lynoure> hmmm, lunch is over, gotta go again
Sep 07 09:27:26 <zuh> Lynoure: zeenix is just sore since he has trouble learning finnish ;)
Sep 07 10:16:04 <zeenix> zuh: kyllä
Sep 07 10:50:11 <Lynoure> zuh: I have been thinking of making a Finnish teaching podcast, like 'Laura speaks Dutch' is for Dutch
Sep 07 10:50:40 <celesteh> heh, i listen to laura speaks dutch
Sep 07 10:51:08 <Lynoure> celesteh: I do too, my beloved husband is Dutch and I'm trying to learn :)
Sep 07 10:51:56 <celesteh> it's not helping me too much, but i'm not making an effort, really
Sep 07 10:52:04 <celesteh> although now i can manage restaurant interactions
Sep 07 10:52:19 * celesteh wishes everybody would learn esperanto
Sep 07 11:35:53 * keesj wishes everybody would learn dutch :p
Sep 07 11:36:19 <keesj> why not just one language!
Sep 07 11:36:48 <lardman> surely everyone should learn the language that has the most users who are unable to learn anything else
Sep 07 11:37:00 <lardman> the Dutch have shot themselves in the foot - they are too good
Sep 07 11:37:01 <suihkulokki> keesj: yes, and that should be finnish, obviously
Sep 07 11:37:04 <lardman> so Enlgish it is ;)
Sep 07 11:37:16 <lardman> or even English
Sep 07 11:38:51 <keesj> I also would go for a language what has one 5 letters or so
Sep 07 11:39:32 <keesj> so I can type with one hands or even my feet
Sep 07 11:39:59 <keesj> my feets are doing nothing all day long !
Sep 07 11:40:59 <pupnik> :)
Sep 07 11:43:02 <wahlau> hi
Sep 07 11:43:03 <_Monkey> salut, wahlau
Sep 07 11:43:13 <wahlau> my first time here
Sep 07 11:43:15 <wahlau> :)
Sep 07 11:44:04 <wahlau> anyone plays with kinetic scroll here?
Sep 07 11:44:12 <wahlau> i just tried maro's script
Sep 07 11:45:32 <keesj> wahlau: there is a media player doing it kagu perhaps?
Sep 07 11:45:40 <wahlau> yeaj
Sep 07 11:45:44 <wahlau> i first saw it there
Sep 07 11:45:53 <wahlau> then now almost every media player using it
Sep 07 11:45:54 <wahlau> .)
Sep 07 11:46:03 <wahlau> just wanna share the experience
Sep 07 11:46:16 <wahlau> it is nice, but i don't feel it usable at this extend...
Sep 07 11:46:25 <wahlau> the scroll is kind of, urhm, sluggish
Sep 07 11:46:27 <wahlau> any idea why?
Sep 07 11:46:44 <keesj> it's trally better with a captive sensor
Sep 07 11:46:51 <wahlau> oic
Sep 07 11:46:52 <keesj> really
Sep 07 11:47:01 <wahlau> so it has something to do with the screen instead?
Sep 07 11:47:29 <keesj> the physics , and the way touch is detected.
Sep 07 11:47:56 <wahlau> that is what i have in mind
Sep 07 11:48:09 <wahlau> would it be possibel for me to study the values captured by the screen
Sep 07 11:48:11 <keesj> "some" devices can detect when you are "hovering" over the screen , you don't really have to touch it that hard
Sep 07 11:48:13 <wahlau> and translate that into motion
Sep 07 11:48:26 <wahlau> that might in return help the whole kinetic thing :)
Sep 07 11:48:40 <wahlau> but again, i am not really a fan of the kinetic thing
Sep 07 11:49:13 <keesj> it is adictive , you just start to play with it
Sep 07 11:49:19 <keesj> it's sexy
Sep 07 11:49:27 <wahlau> oic
Sep 07 11:49:29 <wahlau> :)
Sep 07 11:49:37 <wahlau> any python programmer here?
Sep 07 11:49:48 <wahlau> i am wonder is it possible to draw a layer on top of another?
Sep 07 11:49:52 <guardian> hmm, scratchbox was working for weeks (i did not reboot the computer) now after a reboot i get "Scratchbox is not properly set up!" error on /scratchbox/login
Sep 07 11:49:54 <guardian> any idea please ?
Sep 07 11:50:38 <keesj> I really like the raemo and other stuff I see comming
Sep 07 11:50:49 <suihkulokki> guardian: ..run the initscript
Sep 07 11:50:53 <keesj> guardian: and you started sbox ?
Sep 07 11:50:53 <wahlau> raemo?
Sep 07 11:51:22 <jani> guardian: you are not perhaps inside scratchbox allready ? =))
Sep 07 11:52:07 <keesj> http://raemo.garage.maemo.org/ and http://pluthon.garage.maemo.org/
Sep 07 11:53:00 <keesj> it really looks like python is the choice for the next generation maemo stuff
Sep 07 11:55:10 <guardian> i just rebooted
Sep 07 11:55:18 <guardian> tried /scratchbox/login to go on my dev ...
Sep 07 11:55:20 <guardian> crap ...
Sep 07 11:55:52 <guardian> back in time i installed it using the holly 3.1 script
Sep 07 11:55:59 <guardian> i'm not sure it eases the developer's life in the end :D
Sep 07 11:59:54 <guardian> it just worked smoothly before i rebooted :(
Sep 07 12:01:19 <suihkulokki> 14:50 < suihkulokki> guardian: ..run the initscript
Sep 07 12:01:42 <keesj> the unofficial maemo ui guidelines http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dfrtdqv5_7hp33bq&pli=1
Sep 07 12:01:45 <keesj> horrible!
Sep 07 12:03:24 <keesj> eivel dialogs with "cancel/ok" or worse , dialogs with only "ok" ,
Sep 07 12:04:16 <keesj> :tap "OK" to update the facebook or close to close the application"
Sep 07 12:04:23 <keesj> is it a joke?
Sep 07 12:05:18 <guardian> suihkulokki: sorry i missed this line
Sep 07 12:06:56 <suihkulokki> anyways, everyone have a nice weekend
Sep 07 12:11:46 <wahlau> same to you too
Sep 07 12:13:28 <MoRpHeUz> guardian: yeah, try to /etc/init.d/scratchbox-core restart
Sep 07 12:13:35 <MoRpHeUz> it should help (helped me anyway)
Sep 07 12:15:29 <guardian> i have no such script, but running /scratchbox/run_me_first.sh again helped
Sep 07 12:16:43 <MoRpHeUz> guardian: hhmm...ok...for some reason there is something that screws up my scratchbox config at startup and I always need to run this "start script" when I boot my machine
Sep 07 12:17:39 <guardian> i never had problems when i installed scratchbox myself using apt. but i upgraded the box so i reinstalled everything and reinstalled scratchbox using the script provided by maemo.org
Sep 07 12:47:40 <MoRpHeUz> kulve: hey!
Sep 07 12:49:16 <kulve> MoRpHeUz: hey
Sep 07 12:50:03 <MoRpHeUz> kulve: have some good news for you regarding that gmyth stuff...probably it's not 100% yet due to some osso-media-engine bugs but as soon as osso release a fix for that we will have it fully working for the device...
Sep 07 12:50:52 <MoRpHeUz> kulve: I'm going to make a post on my blog in the next hour....just take a look at that ok ? =) I wanted you to be the first one to know as you helped me so much with tests =)
Sep 07 12:52:34 <kulve> "so much".. ;)
Sep 07 12:53:02 <kulve> MoRpHeUz: I can read it, but I might be off to home soon and then I'm off to afk, so I might not be able to read it :/
Sep 07 12:53:34 <MoRpHeUz> kulve: hhmm..that's ok...so read when you can =)
Sep 07 12:55:32 <kulve> I will :)
Sep 07 12:55:48 <MoRpHeUz> great! =)
Sep 07 13:01:11 <develneubee> hello all, does the n800 use the bluetooth's Sim Access Profile to sync all the contacts from a phone ?
Sep 07 13:08:19 <kern> hi, anybody alive here ?
Sep 07 13:08:33 <kern> need some help with maemo theme
Sep 07 13:08:33 * celesteh is deceased
Sep 07 13:08:43 <kern> just installed hildon-theme-plankton and dependencies, but application still complains about some missing icons: qgn_plat_home_border_left.png, qgn_plat_home_search_bg_alpha.png, etc...
Sep 07 13:08:56 <kern> where can I get these icons ?
Sep 07 13:17:28 <qgil> hi, fast poll: many Hacker Edition users around?
Sep 07 13:20:58 <qgil> I see, bad timing
Sep 07 13:21:03 <c0ffee> not me
Sep 07 13:21:10 <c0ffee> i'm using the old software on my 770
Sep 07 13:21:30 <qgil> hi c0ffee
Sep 07 13:21:49 <c0ffee> hi qgil
Sep 07 13:23:38 <qgil> well, I just wanted to announce here the new HE edition available for download, a scoop for some seconds  :)
Sep 07 13:24:31 <c0ffee> hurray
Sep 07 13:24:31 <alp> qgil: hey, if you're going to syndicate my blog could you make sure that posts don't get attributed to "Unknown author"? thanks
Sep 07 13:30:22 <qgil> http://maemo.org/news/announcements/view/1189171468.html
Sep 07 13:30:49 <qgil> alp, I asked you to send me your maemo.org userid precisely to avoid this
Sep 07 13:31:26 <alp> qgil: don't think i have one
Sep 07 13:31:37 <qgil> alp: then create one  :)
Sep 07 13:33:24 <qgil> that's all folks! see you later
Sep 07 13:33:53 <alp> how about, no?
Sep 07 13:36:05 <keesj> great news
Sep 07 13:36:34 <keesj> no flash at all? Adobe Flash browser plugin
Sep 07 13:36:54 <cosmo> well, youtube wouldn't work anyway
Sep 07 13:37:08 <cosmo> and all other flash is just useless ads etc
Sep 07 13:37:09 <inz> And flash sucks anyway
Sep 07 13:38:04 <keesj> not a youporn.com use then?
Sep 07 13:38:11 <keesj> user
Sep 07 13:38:19 <cosmo> does it work on 770?
Sep 07 13:38:35 <keesj> no , no really
Sep 07 14:27:28 * pupnik_ summons Bahamut
Sep 07 14:55:41 <GS> someone has installed kismet on os2007he?
Sep 07 15:52:26 <pupnik_> GS someone surely has.  What is your question?
Sep 07 15:56:37 * pupnik_ feels silly running desktop computers which suck hundreds of watts, while much of the functionality can be done by an ARM with a few watts
Sep 07 15:59:27 <saaib> morninig everyone
Sep 07 16:20:14 <Jaffa> Morning, all
Sep 07 16:20:38 <celesteh> yo
Sep 07 16:24:35 <MoRpHeUz> hi
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Sep 07 17:59:04 <Sho_> cool, the input method was finally released ... maybe we're finally going to get some working non-GTK+ toolkits for it
Sep 07 18:19:02 <Jaffa> Sho_: or some better input methods, more likely.
Sep 07 18:55:01 <ffoegboy> can anyone recomend a flexible keyboaed that works with n800?
Sep 07 18:55:25 <sx|lappy> describe "flexible"
Sep 07 18:55:54 <ffoegboy> rollup
Sep 07 18:57:10 <sx|lappy> haven't seen any such bt kb yet
Sep 07 18:58:39 <ffoegboy> i have seen some bluetooth ones on net, would any bluetooyh kd work?
Sep 07 18:59:31 <Pio> http://www.skymall.com/shopping/detail.htm?pid=102156154&c=
Sep 07 18:59:59 <milhouse> ffoegboy - must support HID Profile
Sep 07 19:00:13 <Pio> i dont know that the one i linked does
Sep 07 19:00:29 <ffoegboy> what is HID profile?
Sep 07 19:01:03 <celesteh> HID is a standard for how interface deviced talk to computers
Sep 07 19:01:29 <ffoegboy> ok thanks
Sep 07 19:02:12 <milhouse> Keyboard typically use either HID or SPP (Serial Port Profile) to connect over Bluetooth... SPP is the older way of doing things, and not supported natively by the N800
Sep 07 19:02:20 <milhouse> s/Keyboard/Keyboards/
Sep 07 19:02:20 <infobot> milhouse meant: Keyboards typically use either HID or SPP (Serial Port Profile) to connect over Bluetooth... SPP is the older way of doing things, and not supported natively by the N800
Sep 07 19:04:08 <ffoegboy> Pio: yhat is what i want, do you know if its HID compat.
Sep 07 19:04:30 <Pio> <Pio> i dont know that the one i linked does
Sep 07 19:05:57 <ffoegboy> ok i will check it out, thanks
Sep 07 19:09:40 <||cw> given that they feature a treo, I'd bet it's spp
Sep 07 19:10:52 <ffoegboy> if i found one that was windows ce compatable, would that be HID or SPP?
Sep 07 19:11:25 <milhouse> oh yes, that roll up keyboard is SPP
Sep 07 19:12:34 <milhouse> Spec shee: http://www.eleksen.com/assets/PDFs/brochuresJUNE07/brc_ultra_portable_Bluetooth_keyboard.pdf
Sep 07 19:12:40 <milhouse> s/shee/sheet/
Sep 07 19:12:40 <infobot> milhouse meant: Spec sheet: http://www.eleksen.com/assets/PDFs/brochuresJUNE07/brc_ultra_portable_Bluetooth_keyboard.pdf
Sep 07 19:13:13 <milhouse> There is a hack to add SPP Keyboard support, used to work in OS 2006 dunno about OS 2007
Sep 07 19:13:57 <keesj> spp?
Sep 07 19:14:01 <milhouse> here: http://770.fs-security.com/maemo-bt-plugin/
Sep 07 19:15:30 <milhouse> Also here: http://fanoush.wz.cz/maemo/#kbdd
Sep 07 19:15:49 <milhouse> Looks like the latter has OS 2007 support
Sep 07 19:16:35 <keesj> in 2007 support for bluetooth keyboard that implement the hid standards are part of the maemo platform
Sep 07 19:16:53 <milhouse> yes, but not keyboards using SPP
Sep 07 19:17:18 <keesj> for the "serial" one you need kbdd indeed with the kernel uinput module yes
Sep 07 19:17:52 <keesj> what keyboard did you get?
Sep 07 19:18:58 <milhouse> ffoegboy is asking about this kb which only supports SPP: http://www.skymall.com/shopping/detail.htm?pid=102156154&c=
Sep 07 19:19:10 <milhouse> he wants a "flexible" keyboard
Sep 07 19:19:42 <ffoegboy> milhouse: is there a rollup kb that supports hid profile?
Sep 07 19:19:59 <keesj> sexy
Sep 07 19:20:10 <straind`> Has anyone gotten anything set up using SPP?
Sep 07 19:20:13 <milhouse> there is the Stowaway Sierra - not roll up, but it does fold in half into a little case... http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=144069
Sep 07 19:20:54 <milhouse> the only roll up kb i could find was the eleksen - same one you found.
Sep 07 19:21:04 <milhouse> but i didn't look long...
Sep 07 19:21:19 <straind`> I have a barcode scanner that uses SPP and I'd like to figure out how to connect it.
Sep 07 19:21:20 <milhouse> i've got the sierra - don't use it though
Sep 07 19:21:48 <milhouse> a bt keyboard is more hassle than it's worth unless you intend to do some heavy duty typing
Sep 07 19:21:49 <ffoegboy> milhouse: how do you input into n800?
Sep 07 19:21:55 <milhouse> virtual kb
Sep 07 19:22:03 <keesj> I used on for a very short time and gave up
Sep 07 19:22:14 <keesj> it was a serial one
Sep 07 19:22:36 <milhouse> the Sierra is HID, worked straight away - still too much hassle. :)
Sep 07 19:22:45 <ffoegboy> milhouse: isnt that slow? i have just purchased a n800 but havrnt got it yet
Sep 07 19:23:24 <milhouse> is what slow? the virtual kb? yes, it's slower than typing with a keyboard but it has the advantage of me not having to carry a keyboard or balance it on my lap or get up and get it or...
Sep 07 19:23:44 <keesj> I love to program and I have yet to find the correct language to program while not sitting behind a desk
Sep 07 19:23:45 <milhouse> since i don't tend to type novels into my n800, it's not a problem using the virtual kb
Sep 07 19:24:53 <ffoegboy> milhouse: maybe i should try it for a couple of weeks before looking for a kb
Sep 07 19:25:07 <milhouse> i suggest you do, you could save yourself some money
Sep 07 19:25:26 <keesj> ffoegboy: the fun thing with the thumb keyboard is that you can type standing
Sep 07 19:25:26 <ffoegboy> milhouse: are you on the n800 now?
Sep 07 19:25:32 <milhouse> no
Sep 07 19:25:41 <milhouse> no way would i bother using irc on a n800...
Sep 07 19:25:52 <ffoegboy> keesj: thumb kb?
Sep 07 19:26:24 <keesj> or sitting in the tram, but it the keyboard is detached from the device (n800 in this case) you reall need a table , I can't even really use the keyboard in bed and I have spend enough money on a good bt keyboard
Sep 07 19:27:16 <ffoegboy> keesj: do you mean the virtuak kb?
Sep 07 19:27:17 <keesj> ffoegboy the on screen / full screen keyboard that pop's up
Sep 07 19:27:26 <ffoegboy> keesj: ok
Sep 07 19:28:35 <ffoegboy> i only speek english and have ordered the n800 from germany, will the operating system be in english or german?
Sep 07 19:29:14 <keesj> you can choose at startup
Sep 07 19:29:14 <milhouse> you might get a german keyboard...
Sep 07 19:29:54 <ffoegboy> milhouse: i wonder if that can be changed since its virtual
Sep 07 19:30:21 <milhouse> sorry i thought you were referring to your BT keyboard
Sep 07 19:30:51 <ffoegboy> milhouse: no. i havent got a bt kb yet
Sep 07 19:30:53 <milhouse> there is only one OS version for the N800 - you select the language on first boot
Sep 07 19:31:35 <ffoegboy> milhouse: can it be changed after the first boot if you want?
Sep 07 19:31:41 <milhouse> yes
Sep 07 19:31:49 <milhouse> change the language/local in the control panel
Sep 07 19:31:49 <_Monkey> milhouse: that doesn't look right
Sep 07 19:31:53 <ffoegboy> milhouse: cool
Sep 07 19:32:59 <straind`> Hmmm.  Suicidal _Monkey.
Sep 07 19:33:12 <milhouse> too right... no idea what's going on there
Sep 07 19:33:29 <straind`> maemo?
Sep 07 19:33:29 <_Monkey> maemo is at maemo.org or Open Source Software
Sep 07 19:33:40 <straind`> Maybe he'll stick around now...
Sep 07 19:33:56 <milhouse> maybe...
Sep 07 19:34:08 <milhouse> must have been an irc thing... we're both on the same connection here.
Sep 07 19:34:09 <straind`> Make him feel useful. :P
Sep 07 19:34:20 <milhouse> irc == freenode
Sep 07 19:38:25 <ffoegboy> i am going to get an 8gb sdhc card, is there any difference in the different brands?
Sep 07 19:54:36 <ffoegboy> milhouse: are you still there?
Sep 07 20:08:24 <human> hmm
Sep 07 20:09:34 <human> 
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Sep 07 20:13:24 <human> 
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Sep 07 20:23:55 <tru_> who got Qt4 up and running on the n800?
Sep 07 20:27:02 <sx|lappy> heretic ;D
Sep 07 20:45:34 <keesj> funny garage is also used for "non-free" stuff
Sep 07 20:45:40 <keesj> https://maemo.org/downloads/product/videocenter/
Sep 07 21:25:33 <gg_> hi.
Sep 08 01:04:55 <Blacksitox> hi
Sep 08 01:40:39 <micky> Hi
Sep 08 01:40:39 <_Monkey> salut, micky
Sep 08 01:40:45 <micky> any kernel hacker around?
Sep 08 01:40:49 <micky> hi monkey
Sep 08 01:41:53 <micky> I was trying to find out if the kernel for Bora has the tickless patches compiled in. I can't find any traces of it in the sources
Sep 08 02:48:10 <kriebz> stupid Debian
Sep 08 02:48:26 <kriebz> I might need help flashing my 770
Sep 08 02:48:39 <kriebz> Etch has something about it that the flasher doesn't work
Sep 08 02:48:54 <kriebz> can't find the solution posted reliably
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