**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Sep 27 02:59:57 2007 Sep 27 03:01:47 like I had a choice? I've got a psp with a custom firmware Sep 27 03:02:29 so I play games for free as well as use it for internet radio, emulate snes/psx/nes/genesis, wifi sniffer/media player Sep 27 03:03:12 2 GB stick from walmart, coulda gotten it cheaper elsewhere but it was 12am and I wanted to h4x it Sep 27 03:11:15 fux Sep 27 03:34:03 http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=77948#post77948 Sep 27 03:34:10 video chat..... Sep 27 03:34:17 gizmo, came thru Sep 27 03:38:47 don't bother if you have rtcomm installed, gizmo 4.0 for the n800 crashes real bad. Sep 27 03:38:48 sweet Sep 27 03:43:57 "DOSBox on a 1.7 Gigahertz PC is roughly the equivalent of a 25MHz 386 PC." Sep 27 03:44:12 considering that, the tablet doesn't run it that badly Sep 27 03:53:38 * pupnik does the grunt work for sound samples for xu4 that nobody ever has properly done yet :/ Sep 27 04:07:02 * nelson made an external battery pack holder. Sep 27 04:07:34 nice - i'd like a power plug that doesn't have so much leverage Sep 27 04:08:01 pupnik: this one is integrated into the case wrapper. Sep 27 04:08:09 Photos once I have daylight. Sep 27 04:08:12 cool Sep 27 04:14:51 pupnik: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=270157739858&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=017 Sep 27 04:22:24 cool Sep 27 04:23:39 great product Sep 27 04:24:21 Does camera-2.9.2video actually upload to flickr or is that just a tease? Sep 27 04:25:21 pupnik: but .... I can't find it in their ebay store anymore. Sep 27 04:25:47 v. annoying, especially since I was just going to brag about my wonderful form-fitting external battery. Sep 27 04:26:48 Hmmmm..... same product seems to be available still: http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Universal-External-Battery-for-PDA-and-Cell-Phone_W0QQitemZ230174242726QQihZ013QQcategoryZ15034QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Sep 27 04:54:08 * pupnik ponders how to get underworld running on tablet Sep 27 05:04:46 looking at the intel UMG platform roadmap ... ARM is going to get some competition :/ Sep 27 05:05:13 McCaslin, Menlow, Moorestown Sep 27 05:08:16 A very small bicycle .. http://www.newscientist.com/blog/technology/uploaded_images/SinclairABike-771352.jpg Sep 27 05:14:53 Hi people Sep 27 05:15:13 Obviously, then, you feel that I fall into the class ``people''. Sep 27 05:15:20 Makes my heart giddy with joy. Sep 27 05:15:24 I'am having this error: /scratchbox/tools/bin/chown: `messagebus.messagebus': invalid user Sep 27 05:15:43 pupnik: yes, I've looked at that bike. Problem is it has a 180lb weight limit. Sep 27 05:15:51 that's trying to install gconf2 Sep 27 05:16:23 ups, did not catch that Sep 27 05:18:31 bit Sep 27 05:19:56 does any one know what is the cause? Sep 27 05:22:34 I'am using SDK 2.2 gregale Sep 27 05:22:47 nope Sep 27 05:23:08 gregale, gconf2... i might have that Sep 27 05:23:43 Filename: pool/herring/main/g/gconf2/gconf2_2.6.4.14-osso2_armel.deb Sep 27 05:23:50 hfmf Sep 27 05:24:52 i did not catch the idea, sorry Sep 27 05:25:02 rene4jazz: you can dpkg-x the gconf package and look at the postinst script to see where it is getting the username from Sep 27 05:25:05 dpkg -X Sep 27 05:25:27 ok, i'll see Sep 27 05:25:50 or apt-get source gconf to see it Sep 27 05:26:05 i don't know what's wrong - that's just how i would work backwards from the error message Sep 27 05:26:35 ok roger Sep 27 05:36:49 any scratchbox2 users? I can't seem to get it to run "af-sb-init.sh start" as instructed in http://maemo.org/development/documentation/tutorials/Maemo_tutorial_bora.html#settingup Sep 27 05:37:20 of course, that example uses scratchbox,. not sb2... Sep 27 05:37:41 but I kinda expected them to work similarly Sep 27 05:38:43 what error message? Sep 27 05:51:31 pupnik: tons of them Sep 27 05:51:45 essentially: it doesn't find any of the programs Sep 27 05:52:21 I expected the sb2 -e command to drop me in some kind of "virtual N800" box Sep 27 05:52:43 but it doesn't Sep 27 05:54:06 maybe I failed to understand the whole concept? Sep 27 05:54:09 are you logged-in? Sep 27 05:54:18 cd /scratchbod && ./login Sep 27 05:54:23 s/bod/box Sep 27 05:54:35 lemme see Sep 27 05:55:10 first things first: this is scratchbox2, not scratchbx Sep 27 05:55:48 I understand scratchbox installs to /scratchbox, whereas sb2 does not Sep 27 05:57:13 ok Sep 27 05:57:18 I have no "login" program in my maemo-root tree... Sep 27 05:57:58 pupnik: so... it doesn't look like I can login Sep 27 05:58:38 i dont' know sb2 Sep 27 05:58:51 pupnik: thanks anyway Sep 27 05:59:07 it's what comes with Debian unstable.. Sep 27 06:06:17 apt-cache show scratchbox-core Sep 27 06:06:28 Version: 1.0.7 Sep 27 06:07:32 if you find a maemo-specific howto for scratchbox2 post the link here pls Sep 27 06:07:40 apt-cache show scratchbox-core Sep 27 06:07:40 W: Unable to locate package scratchbox-core Sep 27 06:07:51 hmm i have debian sid here Sep 27 06:07:59 oh that means you don't have it installed Sep 27 06:08:13 if you apt-cache search scratchbox you should see scratchbox-core Sep 27 06:08:23 pupnik: http://gitweb.freedesktop.org/?p=sbox2.git;a=blob;hb=HEAD;f=README Sep 27 06:09:00 pupnik: unfortunately, I don't Sep 27 06:09:20 interestiing - looks like sb2 does work Sep 27 06:09:25 $ apt-cache search --names-only scratchbox Sep 27 06:09:25 scratchbox2 - Transparent cross compiling environment Sep 27 06:09:49 pupnik: cool! now, just tell me, how? Sep 27 06:09:54 :-) Sep 27 06:10:02 just reading your link Sep 27 06:10:11 pupnik: ah Sep 27 06:11:20 deb http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free is where i think i'm getting it Sep 27 06:11:24 according to that link, it should work Sep 27 06:11:44 how do i do an apt-search that shows me which repository contains which package? Sep 27 06:12:28 I have deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free Sep 27 06:12:53 good question... let me see if I find an answer Sep 27 06:12:55 strange - that is only kernel i think Sep 27 06:13:03 nope Sep 27 06:13:07 ah ok Sep 27 06:13:10 that is all of Debian Sep 27 06:15:39 what is the purpose of sbox_configure? Sep 27 06:23:28 http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/8985/swivelyf5.gif nice concept for a swivel-out keyboard (slide-out has patent issues) Sep 27 06:34:05 not very practical compared to slideout. onehand operation prettymuch impossible Sep 27 06:41:55 <`0660> i think it should have a button which would pop it out :) Sep 27 06:42:21 <`0660> it could play futuristic sounds while doing it :) Sep 27 08:00:40 Morning, all Sep 27 08:02:08 morning Sep 27 08:02:09 <_Monkey> aloha Sep 27 08:30:09 morning all Sep 27 08:38:07 so then dialogue would be something like this: Sep 27 08:38:08 http://pupnik.de/xu4_onscreenctls7greywood_smc_ani.gif Sep 27 08:40:17 is there anything on a n800 that could open either a word doc file, or a rtf file even? Sep 27 08:40:21 (and edit it) Sep 27 08:40:27 abiword Sep 27 08:40:36 abiword seems to only care about its own format Sep 27 08:40:43 denies me any attempt to open anything else Sep 27 08:41:27 hrm duno Sep 27 08:45:52 The text section should normally contain assembled code? Sep 27 08:46:22 wrong window lardman? :confused: Sep 27 08:47:29 talking about assembly Sep 27 08:48:09 Looks like the asm I'm using for CRC is being placed somewhere the dsp_dld linker doesn't know about - the text section Sep 27 08:49:30 hmm, but .text is there when I disassemble the code Sep 27 08:50:26 ah, missing a dot Sep 27 08:50:30 silly me Sep 27 08:55:07 * flip^ wonders why the app manager is hanging updating its catalogues :/ Sep 27 08:59:34 flip^: try apt-get update from xterm (with apt manager closed) Sep 27 08:59:39 see if that gets you errors Sep 27 08:59:48 (as root) Sep 27 09:02:08 * flip^ watches it hang on abisource :( Sep 27 09:06:13 now its just being odd ... Waiting for headers... Sep 27 09:07:41 "GPG error" public key not available on maemo-hackers.org or catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com >.< Sep 27 09:24:56 kulve: Have you ever seen the following error?: mbox: ERR from DSP (BADADR): 0x6200 Sep 27 09:26:08 hmmm, no, I don't think so.. Sep 27 09:26:28 the spec pdf reckons this message is unused Sep 27 09:26:53 Hi... Does anybody know how I get the /usr/bin/browser to start in fullscren, which parameter? Sep 27 09:27:04 Its an N800 standard browser Sep 27 09:27:14 opera Sep 27 09:27:40 hi Sep 27 09:27:40 <_Monkey> niihau, latzko Sep 27 09:29:19 * lardman starts wading through the kernel code to see what the 0x6200 is supposed to mean Sep 27 09:30:54 I have an applet with CSM activated at tap-and-hold. The request to me is that CSM should only come up in empty areas of the applet (any empty areas btw) and none of the control widgets. Is that possible? Sep 27 10:03:51 hi. is is possible to video chat on the latest n800 firmware ? Sep 27 10:05:00 with skype, apparently. not tried it yet though Sep 27 10:06:59 when i extend the webcam it runs the internet call app, not skype. any idea why? Sep 27 10:07:28 Rebroad: you can just close it and launch skype instead Sep 27 10:07:44 there's an option in the internet call app that says "automatically run me when the camera is opened" Sep 27 10:08:00 you can just untick the option and then it doesn't automatically run anything when the camera is extended Sep 27 10:08:50 the 800 has a camera? Sep 27 10:09:06 by this option is it safe to assume i can video chat using internet call app? if so, how? Sep 27 10:10:20 woot Sep 27 10:12:47 Rebroad: you can, with Google Chat / Jabber Sep 27 10:12:59 I've no experience at all with that though Sep 27 10:14:14 flip^, i have tried with someone using the latest googletalk client but it says their client doesn't support video Sep 27 10:14:51 flip^, what experience of video chat do you have? Sep 27 10:15:04 i can't get video chat to work either Sep 27 10:15:14 tigert, what other team? Sep 27 10:16:05 Rebroad: I've used skype on a PC quite a bit... not got round to trying it on my n800 though (i've only had it a few weeks now) Sep 27 10:17:18 ok, so it seems that alto Sep 27 10:17:44 although the n800 has a camera, there is ct Sep 27 10:18:05 actually no useful sw for it! Sep 27 10:18:28 there's some other photo taking software about, but i could do with a video recording app too tbh Sep 27 10:21:14 Rebroad: ?? Sep 27 11:02:52 Hi Room, just trying to recompile a package made for the 800 onto the 770. First time using scratch box and i was wondering if I have to install all the prerequisites by hand (./configure make) or can i use something like apt-get? Sep 27 11:20:38 Hi #maemo Sep 27 11:21:50 apt-get cannot resolve hostnames - wget can - already did edit nsswitch.conf and resolv.conf Sep 27 11:22:07 currently it is 3.1 - wanted to upgrade to 3.2 but apt-get wont update Sep 27 11:22:09 [sbox-SDK_ARMEL: ~] > cat /etc/nsswitch.conf|grep ^hosts && cat /etc/resolv.conf Sep 27 11:22:09 hosts: dns Sep 27 11:22:09 nameserver 10.10.10.1 Sep 27 11:24:18 anyone an idea? Sep 27 11:27:29 check /scratchbox/etc/resolv.conf Sep 27 11:28:40 on the host machine? Sep 27 11:29:22 says "search datateam.local" and "nameserver 10.10.10.1" each in it's own line Sep 27 11:32:05 got to reboot Sep 27 11:38:50 'CraigX' from Gp2x world appears to be developing a new handheld gaming console. (what? how? with what money? huh?) Apparently based on OMAP 3430, Linux, 800x480 screen, wifi. Quite a strange occurrence. Sep 27 11:39:45 if they actually get anywhere it will be interesting to see if they use Maemo/ITOS for it Sep 27 11:42:33 arent the current gp2x versions allready using linux ? Sep 27 11:43:37 yes but the manufacturer went bankrupt, according to forums Sep 27 11:44:21 want to try fanoush mmc speed up without permanent flashing. On his web page he has a command "flasher-2.0" - is this same as initfs_flash? Sep 27 11:45:55 and do I need boot menu to do this? Sep 27 11:48:18 anyone? Sep 27 11:49:55 pupnik: yes, that happened while ago. point was, atleast some parts of source for gp was released and there's also quite a big dev community so it propably wont make much sense to switch to new software platform.. Sep 27 11:54:13 ah i see Sep 27 11:54:48 dunno thou, just speculating =) Sep 27 11:54:55 Talking of Gp2x, how difficult is it to port programs from that platform to Maemo. They have an SDL based mpd client that looks like it could be rather tasty Sep 27 11:55:51 AFAIK no-one has ported a gp2x app to nokia yet Sep 27 11:56:27 sorry matmo i don't know Sep 27 11:56:38 ok np Sep 27 11:58:56 wonder who n800 fares against gp2x hw specs ? Sep 27 11:59:19 faster cpu, slower to update screen? Sep 27 12:01:21 gp2x is another good example of how multiple cpus tend to not get used much Sep 27 12:05:18 Hi, Anyone knows if is possible to install xfonts on n770? Does Xomap support it? thanks in advance Sep 27 12:05:29 gla55_: which is which? Sep 27 12:06:27 jani: n800 having faster cpu.. but gp2x has two? and smaller res screen thats faster to update.. Sep 27 12:06:32 thats my understanding anyohw Sep 27 12:06:56 correct Sep 27 12:07:03 ARM 920 and 940 coprocessor Sep 27 12:07:12 Hmm.. it would be cool to have motion sensors in the next device.. Sep 27 12:07:46 ack. Sep 27 12:09:41 how about bluetooth/usb connected motion sensors... Sep 27 12:10:30 extra devices.. Sep 27 12:17:42 hi Sep 27 12:27:28 hi there Sep 27 12:28:28 the update for openssh-client (maemo6) depends on old version (maemo2) which is already installed, and i get a missing package error Sep 27 12:29:03 is it correct to depend on old version? Sep 27 12:30:20 is there a cleanly ported version of gpsd? Sep 27 12:31:20 looks like the gpsd version from deb http://maemo-hackers.org/apt mistral main is the default debian package Sep 27 12:40:09 hello Sep 27 12:42:22 eyy toniz Sep 27 12:50:51 fish_: there is osso-gpsd Sep 27 12:51:09 I'm trying to develop a new connection manager to telepathy (on nokia n800) but I can't find any information regarding the ConfigurationUI defined in /usr/share/osso-rtcom/ .profile files... Sep 27 12:53:37 Oh wonderfull .. Seg faults again ^_^ Sep 27 12:56:01 apt-get still cannot resolve hostnames - :( Sep 27 12:59:28 :( Sep 27 13:03:52 sbox_boon, What happens when you ping something? Sep 27 13:07:05 sbox_boon: maybe you need to add proxy settings for apt-get ? .. but best place to start to debug is to try ping & host if the network works at all inside sbox .. Sep 27 13:07:26 * alterego starts working on the maemo 4.0 port .. Sep 27 13:07:31 * alterego yawns Sep 27 13:16:09 installing osso-rtcom-beta, i get missing evolution-date-server. what repo should i add to get it? Sep 27 13:18:19 i used the .install link, and run Extras/RTCom installer Beta Sep 27 13:27:02 jani: there is no ping command in sbox 3.1 - is it? Sep 27 13:27:21 # gtk-window-decorator Sep 27 13:27:49 3.1? Sep 27 13:27:50 <_Monkey> i think 3.1 is the latest (known) stable Sep 27 13:27:57 Ah Sep 27 13:27:59 No. Sep 27 13:28:23 3.2 Sep 27 13:28:28 Is the latest stable :) Sep 27 13:29:58 but i can only upgrade to 3.2 with apt-get Sep 27 13:31:03 -date-server. what repo should i add to get it? Sep 27 13:31:05 -date-server. what repo should i add to get it? Sep 27 13:35:00 sbox_boon: http://www.progbox.co.uk/wordpress/?p=351 Sep 27 13:36:53 sbox_boon: true .. but well, not sure if 3.2 was wget but if its there (i have one), you can try to access some host with that.. Sep 27 13:37:38 i edited nsswitch.conf and resolv.conf Sep 27 13:37:43 and wget gets google.at Sep 27 13:37:53 but apt-get update can resolve nothing! Sep 27 13:38:45 sbox_boon: does your lan have a proxy ? Sep 27 13:41:46 Does using a proxy whilst have net sex count as contraception? Sep 27 13:41:52 ~having Sep 27 13:43:12 depends what you want to prevent ;) Sep 27 13:43:51 no proxy in here Sep 27 13:43:57 sbox_boon: anyway, i had similar issue Sep 27 13:44:01 ah ok. Sep 27 13:44:30 - i had similar issue because of all traffic must go thru a proxy .. Sep 27 13:45:02 ?? Sep 27 13:45:46 i had the same problem, apt-get wasnt able to upgrade because our lan doesnt allow outside connections, only thru a proxy .. Sep 27 14:02:16 our lan does! Sep 27 14:02:26 i use no proxy on my dev-machine - works! Sep 27 14:05:44 help - i need the scratchbox!!!!! Sep 27 14:07:44 what can i else do than edit that nsswitch and resolv? Sep 27 14:12:29 anyone here familiar with theming in hildon able to explain why gtk_paint_box doesn't seem to paint a pushbutton correctly on my N800 when it's fine on my laptop? Sep 27 14:12:51 does Hildon patch GtkButton such that it no longer paints using just a stylised paint box? Sep 27 14:20:33 Hi... Why doesnt a script run, that I have but in all the /etc/rc*.d/ folders? Sep 27 14:21:14 Hviid: Permissions? Sep 27 14:22:16 And in the rc*.d folders it is symlinks to it Sep 27 14:22:42 is it executable? Sep 27 14:22:50 yes Sep 27 14:23:27 I don't know then Sep 27 14:23:48 ./etc/init.d/ holds the file, in the rc*.d are just symlinks Sep 27 14:24:03 what happens if you run the file manually? Sep 27 14:24:22 /etc/init.d/myscriptname.sh Sep 27 14:24:34 It works Sep 27 14:25:03 but when I reboot the device, nothing has happend Sep 27 14:25:08 I wonder if the rc.d scripts ever complete, or whether something (like the desktop) is started in one script and never returns Sep 27 14:25:20 in which case try changing the number Sep 27 14:25:42 Which priority are they in, lowest run first? Sep 27 14:25:47 yes Sep 27 14:26:08 but still strange, I have it in ALL my rc*.d's Sep 27 14:26:37 ah, no I think you misunderstand, the rcX refers to the runlevel Sep 27 14:26:50 I know Sep 27 14:26:57 within the rcX.d directory, the symlinks are named with numbers, these numbers are the order Sep 27 14:27:15 I first put it in rc2.d, that didnt work, fuck it then i tought, and put it in them all :D Sep 27 14:27:16 in which case, if you use the same number in each case, it may be blocked in each case Sep 27 14:27:41 help... how to get that crappy apt running? Sep 27 14:28:39 whats the differens between S and K in the rc*.d filenames? Sep 27 14:29:03 the S ones are executed when you enter a run level, while the K ones are executed when you leave a run level Sep 27 14:29:12 start/stop Sep 27 14:29:12 ok Sep 27 14:29:46 Anybody knows the standard browser on the nokia N800, how I get it fullscreen, via parameter? Sep 27 14:29:59 gconf setting? Sep 27 14:30:03 Hviid Sep 27 14:30:32 like /usr/bin/browser --fullscreen Sep 27 14:30:36 fx. Sep 27 14:32:22 you are trying to run it from a script? Sep 27 14:32:29 jep Sep 27 14:33:07 because I need it to start at boot, and go to a specific homepage in fullscreen Sep 27 14:33:13 did you try to ssh to the n800 and run it from the terminal? :) Sep 27 14:33:28 I have Xterm on the N800 Sep 27 14:33:41 this works fin /usr/bin/browser Sep 27 14:34:00 but I need a parameter, if it exists to get it to start in fullscreen Sep 27 14:34:09 this browser is probably a script right? Sep 27 14:34:20 nope. Sep 27 14:34:24 its an binary Sep 27 14:34:35 a binary Sep 27 14:34:35 <_Monkey> it has been said that a binary is arm compiled, so it shall run without problems Sep 27 14:34:57 It also runs Sep 27 14:35:03 But i need it to start in fullscrenn Sep 27 14:35:07 fullscreen Sep 27 14:35:13 there is a url at least Sep 27 14:35:15 --url=www.google.com Sep 27 14:35:24 jep, found that one :D Sep 27 14:35:27 http://browser.garage.maemo.org/docs/eal/index.html Sep 27 14:35:39 maybe something here, donno Sep 27 14:36:59 you could write your own eal :) Sep 27 14:37:10 https://garage.maemo.org/svn/browser/browser-ui/trunk/eal-test/src/main.c Sep 27 14:38:07 :( Sep 27 14:39:26 send a mail to the mailing list, there are probably some eal guys there Sep 27 14:39:44 Hviid, or read the source code :) Sep 27 14:40:08 yeah Sep 27 14:40:24 or see if you can find alp (callabora) probably there is a #telepathy channel and he is there Sep 27 14:40:31 because he is doing the webkit version Sep 27 14:40:34 he should know Sep 27 14:41:55 https://garage.maemo.org/svn/browser/browser-ui/trunk/tablet-browser-ui/src/main.c is probably more what you want Sep 27 14:42:14 the other code looks to be for a test harness Sep 27 14:43:24 there is no fullscreen option Sep 27 14:43:33 though I can't see where in this code the command line is parsed, if it is indeed Sep 27 14:43:41 does the --url parameter work? Sep 27 14:44:00 jep Sep 27 14:44:04 Mail this guy Leonid Zolotarev Sep 27 14:44:15 ok, wrong bit of code again then Sep 27 14:44:17 looks like there is something called --view Sep 27 14:44:30 Set view type win/tab/box Sep 27 14:45:10 i guess the option doesnt exist Sep 27 14:45:16 but could be added easily Sep 27 14:52:26 kulve: Looks like I somehow overwrote the area used to store the task information Sep 27 14:52:30 kenne, wrote the guy a mail now :D Sep 27 14:52:43 Hviid, nice! Sep 27 14:52:44 kulve: my error was caused by the memory not being initialised to 0xDEAD Sep 27 14:52:56 Hviid, is this for a private project or ? Sep 27 14:53:02 kulve: will have to try moving some of my large shared memory regions Sep 27 14:53:16 kenne, actually its for a minor company Sep 27 14:53:27 ah I see Sep 27 14:53:39 We are developing a tool, for workout trainers Sep 27 14:53:53 ah webbased? Sep 27 14:54:22 yes webbased Sep 27 14:54:32 reminds me that I should start doing some sport Sep 27 14:54:52 gg, check out www.bodyplanning.dk Sep 27 14:54:57 ok Sep 27 14:55:56 kenne har priv msg dig Sep 27 14:56:52 Hviid, virkede ikke, du er nok ikke registeret paa serveren Sep 27 14:57:22 kenne, nej nok ikke, bruger noget ircatwork.com Sep 27 14:57:50 det er maaske det Sep 27 14:58:26 Hviid, join #nykanal :) Sep 27 15:11:21 are there any scratchbox2 users in the room? Sep 27 15:12:01 lardman|gone: ok Sep 27 15:13:07 scratchbox2 is what I get in debian sid, and although I can get the cross-compilation to work, I haven't figured out how to make the emulator work, to test the software before I upload it to the N800 Sep 27 15:14:11 Have do anyone installed Xfce on the tablet? Sep 27 15:35:07 Crap. Sep 27 16:13:29 i am following the wiki instructions to boot from mmc. At "now it's time to clone..." it says to skip the step if using a 770 but not to if on an 800 with OS2007. What if you have 2007HE on the 770? Sep 27 16:26:01 What is the step? Sep 27 16:50:58 alterego: sry for delay, past that step now anyway :-) Sep 27 16:51:04 Okay :) Sep 27 17:03:29 <_Shurik_> hola Sep 27 18:53:57 hmm, im guessing that java based apps are not even worth considering for the 770 Sep 27 18:56:15 <_Shurik_> nope Sep 27 18:56:26 <_Shurik_> what's wrong with C? :) Sep 27 18:57:13 imo, nothing. but i see a java on n800 thread over on itt Sep 27 19:09:49 second attempt trying to set up booting from mmc. When I get to the step to download "tar" apt-get reports it is about to remove a *lot* of packages and download 58meg (yes "meg"). I know the wiki says to expect warnings but is this right? I'm sure 58meg is not going to fit into the remianing 11meg :-) Sep 27 19:10:36 (no, I didn't download tar the first time, just used existing busybox, maybe this is why it failed) Sep 27 19:23:45 or put another way (that may get an answer ;-) ) does the "-d" option *only* download the *one* package and *not* remove anything despite the warnings? Sep 27 19:24:32 yep. Make sure you use download only and you should be safe.. Sep 27 19:24:50 X-Fade: thanks Sep 27 19:41:38 hmm, seems to have hung transferring ./var/log/wtmp Sep 27 19:42:57 cpu at 100 (or near) so I have to assume it is still doing something but been a few mins now on the one file. Still responsive but slow Sep 27 20:10:09 hi there. could anyone pass me his values from /etc/pointercal? my n770s screen calibration is screwed and doesn't take taps in the middle of circle 1 & 4. reflashing didn't help :( Sep 27 20:13:00 -15279 105 56148848 51 -9551 34549448 65536 Sep 27 20:13:15 thanks, will try :) Sep 27 20:20:02 Hi Sep 27 20:20:02 <_Monkey> hello, Celesteh Sep 27 20:24:45 solmumaha: didn't work, the point i touch and the point recognized are still half a cm away, at lest on the left side... thank you anyways Sep 27 20:25:20 k, sry to hear that Sep 27 20:27:08 i has a brick? Sep 27 21:10:23 ping Sep 27 21:11:05 anyone here know srilatha.sunkanapally@gmail.com Sep 27 21:11:54 or happen to be familiar with ITOS2007HE-garage Sep 27 21:30:11 ferenc? Sep 27 22:24:06 hey Sep 27 22:30:32 /msg nickserv set unfiltered on Sep 27 23:30:07 anyone out there knows about how "panning" is implemented? Sep 28 00:36:52 posting unobfusticated email addresses here may increase spam to them. probably not a nice thing to do... Sep 28 00:39:15 the #maemo log has scary-high rankings in google searches. When i look for answers to questions I have, i keep finding my posts here that ask the question. Sep 28 01:23:05 solmumaha: Where's this beta transcoder that you mentioned on ITT? Sep 28 01:23:46 i think he sleepies Sep 28 01:24:00 Anyone else got it then? Sep 28 01:24:23 Having 3TB of video I can suddenly play on my N800 would be great. Sep 28 01:24:28 http://ugz.ath.cx:1414/knots/ Sep 28 01:24:50 Thanks. Sep 28 01:25:30 you'll need a non-crippled version of ffmpeg to do the transcoding Sep 28 01:26:59 use 'ffmpeg -formats' and look for the "E" in the codecs section to see what codecs it supports Sep 28 01:27:40 i had to use wmv2 for the video and mp2 for the audio Sep 28 01:28:51 i absolutely love it. Been spending a lot of time on the couch with the n770 watching vids i'd forgotten I had Sep 28 01:29:14 wtf.. why does vlc depend on firefox? Sep 28 01:29:40 i think because of the browser plugin Sep 28 01:30:11 Yeah, you're right. Sep 28 01:30:14 Viva la Gentoo. Sep 28 01:30:31 Gentoo? haha seeya tomorrow Sep 28 01:31:03 vlc take a long time to compile? Sep 28 01:31:29 yes, but i tried on a p3 950mhz so ymmv Sep 28 01:31:50 What's your idea of "long time" though? Might be different than mine... compiling all of KDE. ;P Sep 28 01:32:16 i don't know - a few hours, times 5 Sep 28 01:32:27 since things broke for me Sep 28 01:32:28 Damn. Sep 28 01:33:35 who knows though - maybe your gentoo sources won't compile-in so much cruft Sep 28 01:33:53 but 0.9.0 is required Sep 28 01:34:07 Well, I don't compile what I don't need or want. Sep 28 01:34:47 you'll probably be done in twenty minutes and make me feel stupid :) Sep 28 01:35:13 Nah. Sep 28 01:35:25 Portage only has 0.8.6c. Sep 28 01:35:28 Oh well. Sep 28 01:35:52 I'm not quite *that* interested. Sep 28 01:36:31 here's the latest afaict http://nightlies.videolan.org/build/source/trunk-20070927-0020/vlc-snapshot-20070927.tar.bz2 Sep 28 01:36:58 Yeah, I'm just not too interested in installing something I won't have an easy time removing later. Sep 28 01:37:05 right Sep 28 01:37:14 Which is why this install of Gentoo's almost four years old now. Sep 28 01:38:02 Worked well enough for you? Sep 28 01:41:48 i used 0.9.0 deb packages Sep 28 01:42:34 ran into a bunch of strange problems too, but solmumaha was right there to fix-up his client/server. Sep 28 01:43:12 how do you make a new file/new canvas in Horizon? Sep 28 01:43:21 damn, battery just died :| Sep 28 01:43:51 Screw it, I'll try the nightly tarball. Sep 28 01:45:33 pupnik: I was going to ask what version of ffmpeg you've got when I checked mine. Sep 28 01:45:35