**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Oct 23 02:59:57 2007 Oct 23 04:04:37 bye Oct 23 04:52:57 @find solutions Oct 23 04:53:13 @find solutions Oct 23 04:53:26 !search solutions Oct 23 04:53:33 !help Oct 23 05:00:30 fASG: you think there's a mind reading bot in here? Oct 23 05:05:49 if you have a question ask it fASG Oct 23 06:24:15 oh man i hate this Oct 23 06:24:27 how do you reset the password in canola... Oct 23 07:26:42 morning Oct 23 07:26:43 <_Monkey> aloha Oct 23 07:29:25 (pet peeve: Why does _Monkey respond to those?) Oct 23 07:29:59 ...and *who* owns _Monkey? (never got a reply on that one :) Oct 23 08:03:29 Hi fab! Oct 23 08:04:03 * flip^ drifts in Oct 23 08:04:45 hi sciboy Oct 23 09:22:47 hello #maemo Oct 23 09:23:08 in case people are curious, it does seem to be /almost/ possible to browse https://maemo.org/profile/view/ Oct 23 09:23:08 <_Monkey> Hmm. No matches for that, timely_changelog. Oct 23 09:23:23 ? Oct 23 09:23:33 anyway, steps: Oct 23 09:23:36 1. search garage: https://garage.maemo.org/search/?type_of_search=people&words=com&Search=Search Oct 23 09:23:59 2. pick a name, e.g. zion Oct 23 09:24:04 3. load https://maemo.org/profile/view/zion.html Oct 23 09:25:06 (searching for 'tom\ seems to work better than 'com') Oct 23 09:28:47 hum hum Oct 23 09:28:57 SPASS 3.0 for n800 :) Oct 23 09:29:09 an pretty advanced automated theorem prover Oct 23 09:29:39 also most non-trivial problems will probably hit the resource limits of the n800 faster than you can say bleep Oct 23 09:29:46 Hello again Oct 23 09:43:16 hi Oct 23 09:43:17 <_Monkey> que tal, b0unc3 Oct 23 09:58:53 wikipedia asking for donations...wow Oct 23 09:59:12 why not just put up a couple of google adds... Oct 23 10:12:30 hello every one Oct 23 10:12:46 i can't drag divs in the web browser Oct 23 10:12:56 not in google map too Oct 23 10:13:08 File a bug. Oct 23 10:13:37 nokia n800 has dragging capabilities Oct 23 10:13:44 oh that's right. I was thinking about filing a bug on that but I forgot after I noticed google maps data showing perfectly fine in maemo mapper. Oct 23 10:14:01 but why cant i drag in google map Oct 23 10:14:16 dragging doest not work in any website Oct 23 10:14:36 maybe it's because dragging usually activates scrolling. Oct 23 10:19:49 do u know any solution pal Oct 23 10:19:55 zerojay:? Oct 23 10:20:19 Yes. Oct 23 10:20:21 File a bug. Oct 23 10:21:21 zerojay:lol Oct 23 10:21:47 zerojay:I have a deadline today Oct 23 10:22:04 zerojay:but i will file a bug Oct 23 10:22:56 it works in microb, so... Oct 23 10:25:02 sp3000:r u sure? Oct 23 10:25:09 sp3000:i have it installed Oct 23 10:25:14 Yeah, if the bug is on Opera, it's just not going to be fixed. Oct 23 10:25:53 i have microb but still i cant drag divs or google map Oct 23 10:25:58 inside micro b browser Oct 23 10:26:12 i select the engine opera to micro b Oct 23 10:26:20 or microb to opera Oct 23 10:26:27 it does not change Oct 23 10:26:34 it always stays microb Oct 23 10:26:58 It just doesn't change which is selected by default in that menu. Oct 23 10:27:08 If you want microb, select it and then restart your browser. Oct 23 10:27:10 yes Oct 23 10:27:25 will dragging work then Oct 23 10:27:29 Try it. Oct 23 10:27:38 Works for me. Oct 23 10:27:38 ok trying Oct 23 10:31:25 thnks man Oct 23 10:31:28 its working Oct 23 10:31:33 thnks a lot Oct 23 10:31:54 enjoy. Oct 23 10:37:54 ah, right, you can already install microb. I guess I should try it. Oct 23 10:41:13 morning Oct 23 10:41:13 <_Monkey> aloha Oct 23 10:41:51 Anyone with knowlege of mmus out there? Oct 23 10:43:31 I'll even take people with a vague idea of what they are... :) Oct 23 10:44:32 memory mapping unit? Oct 23 10:44:37 yep Oct 23 10:44:49 * zerojay wins a ceee-gar. Oct 23 10:44:58 :) Oct 23 10:45:31 any prizes for the second place? Oct 23 10:45:51 Does anyone know how mmus can share memory - i.e. the ARM mmu and the DSP mmu somehow share memory - this may be by exporting the DSP memory space via a /dev entry (/dec/dsp/mem or something like that) Oct 23 10:45:55 A free beta of the Microb browser. ;) Oct 23 10:46:38 if that's true, the kernel would be talking to the DSP's mmu Oct 23 10:47:13 Does the DSP have an MMU? Oct 23 10:47:16 I ask because I've run out of TLB's on the ARM side, and was wondering why. It appears that the ARM mmu only maps 0x10000 bytes of memory to a single tlb Oct 23 10:47:34 alterego: yes Oct 23 10:47:54 Interesting. Oct 23 10:48:24 alterego: http://focus.ti.com/dsp/docs/dspsupporttechdocsc.tsp?abstractName=spru671§ionId=3&tabId=409 Oct 23 10:49:04 It's okay, I believe you :P Oct 23 10:49:25 My RSI is playing up a bit today :/ Might have to code with one hand. Oct 23 10:50:02 alterego: just for completeness' sake :) Oct 23 10:50:10 :) Oct 23 10:50:54 Anyway, it appears that the DSP mmu can map in different sized chunks, I was hoping to map 0x100000 words (which the DSP mmu should do with a single tlb), but on the ARM side this is then mapped with lots of tlbs in 0x10000 chunks Oct 23 10:51:26 Right Oct 23 10:52:03 as there are only 32 tlbs on the ARM (so I've read) and I'm getting an error, I thought I'd ask what on earth is going on - i.e. don't tlbs get reused (perhaps not in this case, hence the question about how memory is shared) and can't the ARM use a larger page size? Oct 23 10:53:17 I'd imagine that's a kernel thing. Oct 23 10:54:32 oh yes, this is all in the kernel Oct 23 11:17:38 hmm, distinct lack of mmu-ishness atm Oct 23 11:25:24 * alterego wonders if OS2008 will come out before the N810 Oct 23 11:26:55 alterego: I think they'll be released at the same time, to flash on the N800 at the same time as the N810 comes out Oct 23 11:27:04 Hmm, Oct 23 11:27:15 Personally I think it'd be better to release it just before the N810 comes out/ Oct 23 11:27:36 N800 owners will then have the option to update and those of use that are developing software can update and test. Oct 23 11:28:19 Then when everyones favorite apps are ready for maemo4 N800 owners can update and N810 owners will have packages ready and waiting :) Oct 23 11:32:54 :/ Oct 23 11:34:51 WTF! The PDF reader doesn't save your spot when closing a document. Oct 23 11:36:07 Nope Oct 23 11:39:03 WTF! The PDF reader doesn't save your spot when closing a document. Oct 23 11:39:10 Any suggestions? Oct 23 11:39:10 <_Monkey> Any suggestions are welcome Oct 23 11:39:50 Heh Oct 23 11:40:01 Don't close the PDF reader. Oct 23 11:43:28 * sciboy checks the garage. Oct 23 11:45:08 * alterego attempts to decide on the best way to make a new ruby/maemo website. Oct 23 11:51:35 I managed to get my mnemosyne port to react as fast as the program menu pops up when you tap on it. Oct 23 11:52:07 no, I didn't optimize the code. I just made use of the gobject.idle_add function Oct 23 11:52:14 alterego: in what sence? Oct 23 11:54:21 there was one legitimate usage of cpu power and another (bigger) that I'd like to optimize away completely when I have time. Oct 23 11:54:29 Wiki, news/blog, documentation blah blah Oct 23 11:54:37 no sense doing same calculations over and over again. Oct 23 12:03:11 hi Oct 23 12:03:21 hello Oct 23 12:04:35 today my n770 with os2007 rebooted two times :( Oct 23 12:04:49 not so stable.... Oct 23 12:14:46 Is xmoto worth downloading? Oct 23 12:16:45 haha :p Oct 23 12:17:38 I do play it sometimes, but it's a little slow Oct 23 12:18:04 I really wonder how much faster it will be on the 810 Oct 23 12:18:14 Does it support ugly mode? Oct 23 12:18:35 yes, but that doens't really speedup Oct 23 12:18:58