**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Oct 26 02:59:56 2007
Oct 26 03:13:00 <zerojay> Anyone have a copy of the latest mediaserv tarball? Jaffa's site appears to be down.
Oct 26 03:16:22 <GeneralAntilles> One sec, zerojay.
Oct 26 03:17:07 <GeneralAntilles> http://www.legacyoflies.com/devuploads/general_antilles/mediaserv-0.02.tar.gz
Oct 26 03:17:51 <zerojay> GeneralAntilles: Thanks.
Oct 26 03:18:02 <GeneralAntilles> Sure thing.
Oct 26 03:20:14 <zerojay> 770-encode?
Oct 26 03:20:14 <_Monkey> 770-encode is a perl script to transcode video to 770/N800 friendly format.  Get it at http://www.bleb.org/software/770/#encode   A java GUI version for win/OSX/linux can be found at http://mediaconverter.garage.maemo.org  and an alternative shellscript transcoder can be found at http://www.modeemi.fi/~cosmo/projects/encode770/
Oct 26 03:20:40 <GeneralAntilles> Just remember to switch it to 'mplayer' quality
Oct 26 03:20:47 <GeneralAntilles> and maybe up the bitrate a bit
Oct 26 03:20:56 <zerojay> You got 770-encode on ya?
Oct 26 03:23:00 <GeneralAntilles> http://www.legacyoflies.com/devuploads/general_antilles/770-encode.zip
Oct 26 03:23:03 <GeneralAntilles> It's a little hacked up
Oct 26 03:23:13 <GeneralAntilles> My LAME encoder is messed up
Oct 26 03:23:17 <GeneralAntilles> so it's setup to passthrough
Oct 26 03:23:25 <GeneralAntilles> and I upped the bitrate a bit on the mplayer setting
Oct 26 03:23:42 <GeneralAntilles> Line 138 if you want to switch it to mp3 encoding
Oct 26 03:25:30 <zerojay> Change copy to mp3?
Oct 26 03:25:31 <_Monkey> zerojay: that doesn't look right
Oct 26 03:25:38 <zerojay> Die, bitch.
Oct 26 03:26:14 <GeneralAntilles> mp3lame
Oct 26 03:26:21 <GeneralAntilles> Then you'll need to set the bitrate
Oct 26 03:26:40 <GeneralAntilles> Check google for specifics
Oct 26 03:26:45 <GeneralAntilles> I don't recall and I'm a mencoder noob.
Oct 26 03:27:00 <GeneralAntilles> -lameopts I think
Oct 26 03:30:05 <zerojay> hmm.. looks like I'm missing an unlisted dependency.
Oct 26 03:32:09 <GeneralAntilles> What's the log say?
Oct 26 03:35:04 <zerojay> Can't locate HTTP/Date.pm in @INC
Oct 26 03:35:08 <zerojay> Missing perl module.
Oct 26 03:35:16 <GeneralAntilles> Yeah
Oct 26 03:35:27 <GeneralAntilles> I had to install a bunch of perl modules
Oct 26 03:35:41 <GeneralAntilles> Open up mediaserv and hit all of the modules listed at the top.
Oct 26 03:36:26 <zerojay> Gentoo didn't pull in everything that the CPAN install did, apparently...even though I installed the same module.
Oct 26 03:36:28 <zerojay> We'll see.
Oct 26 03:36:41 <zerojay> Nah.. still same thing.
Oct 26 03:39:13 <zerojay> Had to manually install HTTP::Date.. weird.
Oct 26 03:40:24 <GeneralAntilles> I don't even want to think about what it took to get that running on OS X here. ;)
Oct 26 03:41:26 <zerojay> Gentoo makes it easy.
Oct 26 03:41:27 <zerojay> Usually.
Oct 26 03:42:15 <zerojay> Er.. I'm supposed to go to my IP:8090 in the web browser to access it, right?
Oct 26 03:42:23 <GeneralAntilles> Should be
Oct 26 03:42:28 <zerojay> When I did, it did a search of my server's machine name on google. lol
Oct 26 03:42:36 <GeneralAntilles> Ha
Oct 26 03:42:46 <GeneralAntilles> I had trouble with that, too.
Oct 26 03:42:51 <GeneralAntilles> 3 times the charm. :\
Oct 26 03:42:54 <GeneralAntilles> *3rd
Oct 26 03:45:31 <zerojay> Just keeps going to google.
Oct 26 03:45:41 <GeneralAntilles> Ha
Oct 26 03:45:48 <GeneralAntilles> I think a solution was mentioned in the thread on ITT
Oct 26 03:45:55 <GeneralAntilles> Change something in hosts
Oct 26 03:45:56 <_Monkey> GeneralAntilles: that doesn't look right
Oct 26 03:46:03 <GeneralAntilles> Useless bot . . .
Oct 26 03:46:06 <zerojay> Probably add your machine name to /etc/hosts.
Oct 26 03:46:15 <GeneralAntilles> Yeah, makes sense.
Oct 26 03:48:02 <zerojay> k, got it.
Oct 26 03:48:12 <zerojay> Will be interesting to see how it manages all my videos.
Oct 26 03:48:58 <GeneralAntilles> Quite a nice little setup.
Oct 26 03:49:06 <GeneralAntilles> It's amazing somebody hasn't set up something similar in the past.
Oct 26 03:49:25 <zerojay> Takes a while to start?
Oct 26 03:49:40 <GeneralAntilles> Not particularly.
Oct 26 03:49:46 <GeneralAntilles> Did it open media player?
Oct 26 03:49:53 <GeneralAntilles>  /mplayer
Oct 26 03:49:57 <zerojay> YEah.. it's open.
Oct 26 03:50:03 <zerojay> Doing nothing that I can tell though.
Oct 26 03:50:14 <GeneralAntilles> mencoder going on the PC?
Oct 26 03:50:21 <zerojay> Yep.
Oct 26 03:50:38 <GeneralAntilles> Huh, weird.
Oct 26 04:04:09 <zerojay> Anyways, bed time.
Oct 26 04:04:44 <GeneralAntilles> 'night
Oct 26 05:16:40 <lopz> bye
Oct 26 05:18:09 <|R> is it me or are the nokia headphones completely damped and unhearable in any kind of noisy environment?
Oct 26 05:23:33 <|R> (i mean the sennheiser HD555 sounds very good, but the nokia, i can't hear anything...)
Oct 26 06:28:08 <sciboy> http://www.collectingsmiles.com/colors/ Gosh I wish we had something for the N800.
Oct 26 06:28:35 <sciboy> http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=109067
Oct 26 06:37:38 <keesj> pretty nice indeed, horizon does about the same
Oct 26 06:38:24 <sciboy> ?
Oct 26 06:39:38 <sciboy> I would love to mention the IT's in that thread, if there's some app I haven't heard of yet. =P
Oct 26 06:39:57 <keesj> http://pippin.gimp.org/horizon/
Oct 26 06:41:50 * czr peeks
Oct 26 06:42:16 <keesj> it's nice because of the zomm feature and the "smudge" kinda drawings I haven't tried it on recent devices
Oct 26 07:13:02 <pupnik_> my favorite so far is mtpaint
Oct 26 07:20:59 <keesj> I like tuxpaint :p
Oct 26 07:21:18 <keesj> it keeps the kids quitet
Oct 26 07:25:48 <sciboy> pupnik_, I need to get that working, there was a lib missing.
Oct 26 07:26:19 <flip^> does mtpaint do pressure sensitive drawing?
Oct 26 07:27:37 <sciboy> https://garage.maemo.org/projects/faint/
Oct 26 07:30:31 <DRoBeR> Good morning.
Oct 26 07:31:07 <atul> : GLIB WARNING ** default - maemo-af-desktop did not exit properly on the previous session. All home plugins will be disabled.
Oct 26 07:31:16 <atul> what to do ?
Oct 26 07:32:07 <pupnik_> I don't agree with Javesh's renaming of mtpaint for maemo to faint, but if he can fix up the memory/ui problems i'll buy him a beer.
Oct 26 07:33:32 <pupnik_> sciboy and no - my version doesn't
Oct 26 07:38:35 <sciboy> I swear I'm going to start downloading PDF files like crazy.
Oct 26 07:38:50 <sciboy> It's awesome being able to have easy offline reading like that.
Oct 26 07:39:07 <flip^> "like that"?
Oct 26 07:39:39 <czr> cat file.pdf
Oct 26 07:39:44 <sciboy> On the N800
Oct 26 07:39:45 <czr> awesomeroxor..
Oct 26 07:39:55 <czr> it's like matrix, but only cooler.
Oct 26 07:40:09 <sciboy> I got through three PDF's I never would've otherwise and learnt tons.
Oct 26 07:41:09 <keesj> sciboy: did you also try fbreader?
Oct 26 07:41:27 <czr> how does the device handle large pdfs? like reference manuals and such?
Oct 26 07:41:28 <sciboy> Nope, don't have any plucker documents I want to read right now.
Oct 26 07:41:54 <sciboy> czr, All I read was A4 at actual pixel size.
Oct 26 07:42:01 <sciboy> So I'd assume so.
Oct 26 07:42:11 <czr> hmm. using the stock pdf reader?
Oct 26 07:42:29 <sciboy> Yeah, I tried Evince, didn't work for well for image heavy stuff. =/
Oct 26 07:42:54 * czr loads ia-32 ref manuals onto the device.
Oct 26 07:43:01 <sciboy> Only thing is you have to remember the page numbers yourself.
Oct 26 07:43:30 <sciboy> If you want to continue later.
Oct 26 07:43:50 <flip^> Thing I don't like about the stock reader is that it doesn't display pages continuously
Oct 26 07:44:18 <keesj> also when zooming it's hard to switch pages
Oct 26 07:44:37 <sciboy> I avoid zoom.
Oct 26 07:45:24 <keesj> I learn moost by using wikipedia :P and it has this wonderflull zommable interface called html :)
Oct 26 07:48:12 <czr> hmm. the pdf viewer (evince) doesn't seem to like the intel pdfs
Oct 26 07:49:03 <Jaffa> re
Oct 26 07:49:08 <Jaffa> server seems to have moved ok. excellent.
Oct 26 07:49:31 <czr> ah no. heh. silly maemo. I had evince open (started from TN), then I opened a pdf using the file manager
Oct 26 07:49:57 <czr> obviously having the program already running means that "no, the user doesn't really want to load the document which was launched from the file manager". bleh.
Oct 26 07:52:57 <czr> damn. evince is actually quite workable with the docs
Oct 26 07:53:06 <czr> at last. a single use for the device that is useful to me :-)
Oct 26 07:54:48 * sciboy saves out a few website articles as PDF files for reading.
Oct 26 07:59:03 <flip^> do you read your PDFs portrait or landscape on the device?
Oct 26 08:00:34 <sciboy> Landscape, It's easier for me to scroll down.
Oct 26 08:03:20 <|Pea|> hi
Oct 26 08:03:21 <_Monkey> privet, |Pea|
Oct 26 08:05:31 <|Pea|> it's possible to do ipsec with maemo ?
Oct 26 08:07:26 <ptman> seems to be after a quick google
Oct 26 08:11:22 * flip^ wonders why he just got 'webamecopyimglocation' as one of the context menu options on an image in the web browser
Oct 26 08:14:25 <AD-N770> good morning
Oct 26 08:24:02 <sciboy> flip^, Hehe
Oct 26 08:36:34 <amr> my replacement tablet came in 3 days :-)
Oct 26 08:36:39 <amr> i only returned mine on wednesday
Oct 26 08:40:58 <pupnik_> great service!  usually you only hear from people when they have problems
Oct 26 08:41:48 <amr> yeah i was pleasantly surprised
Oct 26 08:43:06 <sp3000> flip^: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1956
Oct 26 08:48:13 <flip^> aha
Oct 26 09:33:24 * alterego looks for something to do.
Oct 26 09:43:59 <rafl> so I'm trying to manually setup that maemo 3.1 sdk as described in http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/3.1/INSTALL.txt
Oct 26 09:44:27 <rafl> but after setting up the armel target inside scratchbox starting af-sb-init.sh fails as there seems to be no /etc
Oct 26 09:44:59 <rafl> how is /etc within that armel target to be created?
Oct 26 09:45:01 <alterego> You need to install "files" to your target. /etc, devkits andf fakeroot.
Oct 26 09:45:15 <alterego> Were you using sb-menu or sb-conf?
Oct 26 09:45:20 <rafl> sb-conf
Oct 26 09:45:30 <alterego> Hang on I'll just work out the command.
Oct 26 09:45:56 <alterego> sb-conf install --etc --devkits --fakeroot
Oct 26 09:46:01 <alterego> That'll do it :)
Oct 26 09:46:07 <rafl> that's what I did.
Oct 26 09:46:22 <rafl> also that's what INSTALL.txt says
Oct 26 09:46:25 <alterego> sb-conf install SDK_ARMEL --etc --devkits --fakeroot ..
Oct 26 09:46:55 <alterego> Interesting.
Oct 26 09:47:15 <alterego> Remove the target and try again.
Oct 26 09:47:49 <rafl> aye
Oct 26 09:49:47 <rafl> alterego: sb-conf install SDK_ARMEL --etc --devkits --fakeroot; test -d /etc || echo oh noes gives
Oct 26 09:49:50 <rafl> Installing fakeroot version 1.4.2...
Oct 26 09:49:52 <rafl> oh noes
Oct 26 09:49:55 <rafl> on a freshly setup target
Oct 26 09:50:51 <alterego> etc is a symlink
Oct 26 09:51:43 <rafl> test -e then..  same result.
Oct 26 09:51:53 <alterego> Though that wouldn't stop it working.
Oct 26 09:52:09 <alterego> Try doing it with sb-menu
Oct 26 09:52:21 <rafl> /usr/bin/af-sb-init.sh: Error, /etc/osso-af-init/af-defines.sh does not exist or is not readable
Oct 26 09:52:25 <rafl> ok - will try that.
Oct 26 09:53:02 <alterego> Though I fear there's something else wrong.
Oct 26 09:56:21 <rafl> right. using sb-menu doesn't fix it as well.
Oct 26 09:57:03 <alterego> Freaky
Oct 26 09:57:20 <alterego> Maybe you've got a broken scratchbox install. Other than that I have no clue :/
Oct 26 09:58:19 <rafl> I'm using what deb http://scratchbox.org/debian/ apophis main provides. Is that known to be broken?
Oct 26 09:58:40 <alterego> No, works fine for me
Oct 26 09:59:07 <rafl> I guess I'll just uninstall all those packages, wipe /scratchbox and start over. Maybe I've messed something up.
Oct 26 10:20:05 <keesj> rafl: what is are you using?
Oct 26 10:24:17 <rafl> keesj: err?
Oct 26 10:25:00 <keesj> are your base is belonged to us?
Oct 26 10:25:06 <keesj> what distro are you using
Oct 26 10:28:24 <jumpula> i use mostly caffeine
Oct 26 10:28:32 <jumpula> sometime excess doses of sugar
Oct 26 10:33:12 <rafl> keesj: Debian sid.
Oct 26 10:33:12 <_Monkey> i heard debian sid was currently at 2.2.17 from the stable branch
Oct 26 10:33:32 <alterego> Heh
Oct 26 10:34:35 <Veggen> hrmf.
Oct 26 10:34:49 <Veggen> Does *anyone* know who the owner of _Monkey is?
Oct 26 10:35:06 <alterego> Nope.
Oct 26 10:35:08 * rafl reinstalls all the scratchbox stuff
Oct 26 10:35:12 <Veggen> it sort of annoys me.
Oct 26 10:35:24 <alterego> Just ignore it then.
Oct 26 10:35:24 <Veggen> not much, but a little, and often enough ;)
Oct 26 10:35:50 <Veggen> sure.
Oct 26 10:35:53 <alterego> It comes in handy fairly often too.
Oct 26 10:36:11 <Veggen> alterego: Well. But would it annoy you to actually have to ask it specifically?
Oct 26 10:36:25 <alterego> No, guess not.
Oct 26 10:36:33 <Veggen> that's my main complaint.
Oct 26 10:36:45 <alterego> Yes, that's quite reasonable :)
Oct 26 10:36:46 <Veggen> It even answers to "good morning" etc.
Oct 26 10:37:12 * alterego makes a note to self. chinook SDK doesn't require fakeroot.
Oct 26 10:38:00 <Veggen> I've seen newbies trying to talk to it and get confused.
Oct 26 10:38:11 <alterego> Heh
Oct 26 10:38:18 <Veggen> (a bot shouldn't try to imitate a real person)
Oct 26 10:39:23 <suihkulokki> in some other channel we have bot to react on lines beginning with ?
Oct 26 10:39:35 <suihkulokki> like:
Oct 26 10:39:39 <suihkulokki> ?repositories
Oct 26 10:41:54 <alterego> Does maemo not include iconv?
Oct 26 10:55:47 <amr> just curious, on a tablets first charge and the device says its full
Oct 26 10:55:57 <amr> do i actually listen to it and remove the power cord or leave it longer
Oct 26 10:56:16 <alterego> Once it's charged it's charged.
Oct 26 10:56:43 <amr> okay :-)
Oct 26 10:56:59 <alterego> Leaving the power cord in will do literally nothing.
Oct 26 10:57:06 <amr> oh ok cool
Oct 26 10:57:19 <amr> i just read the manual for the first time and saw it said don't leave the cord in and overcharge it
Oct 26 10:57:46 <alterego> I wasn't aware that was possible.
Oct 26 10:58:02 <alterego> Once the tablet is fully charged the PSU pretty much stops working.
Oct 26 10:58:08 <amr> oh ok
Oct 26 10:58:18 <alterego> Maybe that's just if you have a different kind of PSU.
Oct 26 11:00:18 <rafl> alterego: do you happen to run the above scratchbox packages on Debian sid as well?
Oct 26 11:00:42 <alterego> Etch
Oct 26 11:00:52 <rafl> i see
Oct 26 11:03:53 <amr> weird
Oct 26 11:03:59 <amr> the downloads page on maemo.org
Oct 26 11:04:05 <amr> doesn't load on my tablet
Oct 26 11:04:19 <amr> it just says connecting :s
Oct 26 11:06:17 <amr> oh it works now
Oct 26 11:07:23 <lardman> morning
Oct 26 11:07:23 <_Monkey> aloha
Oct 26 11:07:36 <lardman> _Monkey: how are you this morning?
Oct 26 11:07:36 <_Monkey> no idea, lardman
Oct 26 11:07:47 <lardman> _Monkey: You are well
Oct 26 11:07:47 <_Monkey> ...but _monkey is the best programmer in the whole freenode IRC right now | an annoying bot...
Oct 26 11:08:05 <alterego> Heh
Oct 26 11:08:07 <lardman> s/|/&
Oct 26 11:09:16 <lardman> morning to the non-bots out there too
Oct 26 11:09:27 <rafl> alterego: success!
Oct 26 11:09:28 <alterego> Just gone afternoon here :)
Oct 26 11:09:33 <rafl> alterego: my scratchbox was probably fucked up.
Oct 26 11:09:35 <alterego> rafl, congrats! :)
Oct 26 11:09:44 <alterego> Yeah, it's a common problem.
Oct 26 11:11:33 <rafl> I still wonder how I managed to do that.
Oct 26 11:13:52 <Andy80> hi
Oct 26 11:13:53 <_Monkey> hi, Andy80
Oct 26 11:18:38 <rafl> http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/3.1/INSTALL.txt (3.2.4) tells me to create dummy packages for certain build dependencies. Also it refers to the installer script (http://repository.maemo.org/stable/3.1/maemo-scratchbox-install_3.1.sh, I guess) for examples on automating this. I don't see anything regarding fake packages in that script though. pointers?
Oct 26 11:19:28 <keesj> rafl: yes one moment
Oct 26 11:22:56 <rafl> keesj: uhm.. n/m me.
Oct 26 11:23:10 <rafl> keesj: I've been looking at the scratchbox installer, not the sdk installer :-)
Oct 26 11:23:58 <keesj> hmm acualty I just copied it from the install file http://tinyurl.com/2ycqck
Oct 26 11:24:11 <dpb_> scratchbox installer?
Oct 26 11:24:33 <keesj> sbox+nokia with 2.2 and 3.2
Oct 26 11:25:13 <keesj> I an not a script guru :)
Oct 26 11:25:34 <keesj> but I was happy with functions.sh
Oct 26 11:38:18 <Thanatermesis> i supose that not exist any app to open Power Point type files, correct ?
Oct 26 11:38:53 <Thanatermesis> because... run openoffice2 on n800 is a crazy idea i supose
Oct 26 11:43:47 <robtaylor> Thanatermesis: you could try using google docs
Oct 26 11:45:03 <keesj> Thanatermesis: I guess that oo can convert them to pdf?
Oct 26 11:46:23 <Thanatermesis> keesj, idk, i want to open it from the n800
Oct 26 11:46:45 <Thanatermesis> robtaylor, but i can "send" (open) files with google docs ?
Oct 26 12:02:12 <robtaylor> Thanatermesis: you can open and edit PPt in google docs,from what i hear
Oct 26 12:04:52 <robtaylor> Thanatermesis: and yes, you shoudl e able to upload a ppt to google docs from your n800
Oct 26 12:05:02 <rafl> how about module init tools? 3.1 wanted me to provide a dummy package. 3.2 seems to ship with a real module-init-tools package. I guess I should remove my dummy package then, right?
Oct 26 12:12:15 <lopz> hola
Oct 26 12:18:08 <rafl> isn't the maemo repository somewhat selfcontained? It seems to have gstreamer0.10-plugins-base can't satisfy its build dependencies.
Oct 26 12:21:24 <jumpula> not all the build dependencies are satisfiable at the moment
Oct 26 12:50:37 <rafl> jumpula: what can I do about that?
Oct 26 12:51:03 <Tak> cry?
Oct 26 12:51:50 <rafl> I'd be more interested in anything that'd fix things.
Oct 26 12:56:40 <jumpula> you can try to remove dependencies from packages, or try to compile build dependencies from debian
Oct 26 13:01:43 <timelyx> hello world
Oct 26 13:01:56 <timelyx> anyone here poke bugs.maemo.org?
Oct 26 13:02:49 <Tak> seems ok to me?
Oct 26 13:03:45 <timelyx> just want to point out that most products should now have a target milestone field
Oct 26 13:03:55 <timelyx> it should look familiar (fairly similar to the version field)
Oct 26 13:04:11 <Tak> indeed it seems that they do
Oct 26 13:04:39 <timelyx> for bugs that are fixed already, for people who happen to have editbugs and can determine a version in which a bug is fixed, it'd be appreciated if you set it to the lowest version in which it's fixed :)
Oct 26 13:05:01 <timelyx> most products should have 1.1 .. 4.0, ---, Next, Future
Oct 26 13:05:18 <timelyx> if any of them don't have some of those, let me know, and i'll try to deal w/ that sometime this weekend
Oct 26 13:05:33 <timelyx> 1.0 is kinda a bit of a silly point, so i don't care so much about it :)
Oct 26 13:05:53 <timelyx> but if i'm e.g. missing 2.1 from Connectivity, i'd like to know so i can fix that :)
Oct 26 13:09:33 <rafl> jumpula: k - what to do with the results?
Oct 26 13:10:42 <jumpula> i suppose they could be put in extras
Oct 26 13:10:54 <jumpula> but it's not really up to me :P
Oct 26 13:11:17 <timelyx> rafl: sardine is supposed to be self contained
Oct 26 13:11:30 <timelyx> it will in fact reject unsatisfiable things
Oct 26 13:11:42 <timelyx> which means while one would hope it's bleeding edge, it isn't always
Oct 26 13:52:53 <rafl> timelyx: what's sardine?
Oct 26 13:52:53 <_Monkey> sardine is (very) unstable or http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HowTo_GetStartedWithSardine
Oct 26 13:53:01 <rafl> _Monkey++
Oct 26 13:53:56 <Tak> Don't encourage it.
Oct 26 13:54:20 <Tak> _Monkey, forget postincrement.
Oct 26 13:54:21 <_Monkey> Tak, I didn't have anything matching postincrement
Oct 26 13:55:59 <Veggen> Ok. I vote for kicking *and* banning _Monkey for a while, until the owner speaks up?
Oct 26 13:56:12 * Tak vote++
Oct 26 13:56:29 <Veggen> Not that I hate _Monkey as a concept, I just think the owner should be available and actually monitor its function on the channel.
Oct 26 13:56:31 <jumpula> sounds like throwing a monkeywrench in the machinery :)
Oct 26 13:57:07 <Veggen> I think it's function should be tuned - it shouldn't speak unless explicitly spoken too, and never do like this:
Oct 26 13:57:13 <Veggen> morning people
Oct 26 13:57:24 <Veggen> (hmm, didn't it reply?)
Oct 26 13:57:57 <Veggen> hello people.
Oct 26 13:58:08 <Veggen> (hmm. I *have* seen it answer to greetings :)
Oct 26 13:58:10 <pupnik> hi
Oct 26 13:58:16 <pupnik> maybe it's turned off
Oct 26 13:58:30 <pupnik> http://youtube.com/watch?v=9gsIzP9s_t0  sorry - offtopic post on this subject - crytek tech demo (wow)
Oct 26 13:59:12 <pupnik> i would cast my vote to make monkey only respond with a ! query
Oct 26 13:59:49 <Veggen> pupnik: I've been trying to find out who owns _monkey, and noone seems to know.
Oct 26 14:00:08 <pupnik> wasn't it timeless?
Oct 26 14:01:40 <sp3000> look at hosts eh?
Oct 26 14:02:03 <sp3000> and whois even has a contact domain
Oct 26 14:02:48 <sp3000> (milhouse appears to be the winner, fwiw.)
Oct 26 14:03:21 <Veggen> seems like.
Oct 26 14:03:41 <sp3000> _Monkey: who are you?
Oct 26 14:03:42 <_Monkey> i am the best programmer in the whole freenode IRC right now
Oct 26 14:03:48 <sp3000> oh, yeah, that's useless :)
Oct 26 14:03:50 <Tak> _Monkey: Who's your daddy?
Oct 26 14:03:50 <_Monkey> no idea, tak
Oct 26 14:04:23 * sp3000 shrughs left and right
Oct 26 14:04:31 <sp3000> shrugs even
Oct 26 14:04:59 <sp3000> hmm, I think move demands singing "Thriller"
Oct 26 14:05:20 * sp3000 spares the office that
Oct 26 14:07:11 <Tak> scariest zombie movie evar
Oct 26 14:07:34 <alterego> Your mom .. Returns
Oct 26 14:08:17 * Tak pwnd
Oct 26 14:08:50 <alterego> Hmm .. Considering I have to go to this party tonight. I wonder what I should drink to help my cold.
Oct 26 14:08:55 <alterego> I'm thinking whisky.
Oct 26 14:37:03 <Jaffa> Aww, cool - I love it when software I write gets a comment of the form: "Beautiful software. Thanks."
Oct 26 14:37:15 <alterego> :)
Oct 26 14:43:13 <Tak> Jaffa: I bet I'd love it too :-P
Oct 26 14:46:20 <amr> what software Jaffa ?
Oct 26 14:54:46 <Jaffa> amr: mediaserv - http://www.maemopeople.org/index.php/jaffa
Oct 26 14:56:55 <keesj> we need a pastebin app on maemo!
Oct 26 14:58:13 <Tak> you mean a bookmark?
Oct 26 15:02:23 <sciboy> That would be nice if my N800 had access to the wifi. =/
Oct 26 15:03:01 <keesj> something to share links / paste and retrieve them on the device
Oct 26 15:06:10 <Jaffa> keesj: for 24-style "send this link to my PDA" comments :)
Oct 26 15:07:58 <keesj> 24-style?
Oct 26 15:08:59 <keesj> I think that new nokia service also does something similar (send this video to my phone kinda stuff)
Oct 26 15:11:36 <trunneml_> hello
Oct 26 15:11:37 <_Monkey> salut, trunneml_
Oct 26 15:11:57 <trunneml_> i have a problem with libosso and rpc
Oct 26 15:12:06 <trunneml_> can some one help me?
Oct 26 15:12:59 <Tak> perhaps if you described the problem
Oct 26 15:13:25 <db48x> isnt't there supposed to be a LXR at maemo.org/lxr?
Oct 26 15:13:52 <trunneml_> I have a dbus rpc function that need no parameter and has a string as the return value
Oct 26 15:14:10 <sp3000> there was once upon a time
Oct 26 15:14:33 <trunneml_> ret = osso_rpc_run(osso_context,
Oct 26 15:14:33 <trunneml_> 					OSSO_MAPPER_SERVICE,
Oct 26 15:14:33 <trunneml_> 					OSSO_MAPPER_OBJECT,
Oct 26 15:14:33 <trunneml_> 					OSSO_MAPPER_IFACE,
Oct 26 15:14:33 <trunneml_> 					"getPOIdbpath", &retval, G_TYPE_STRING, OUT_poidbpath, DBUS_TYPE_INVALID);
Oct 26 15:15:08 <db48x> sp3000: where did it migrate to?
Oct 26 15:15:09 <trunneml_> OUT_poidbpath should include the retrun value
Oct 26 15:15:22 <trunneml_> but it does not work
Oct 26 15:15:58 <Tak> &OUT_poidbpath ?
Oct 26 15:16:05 <trunneml_> hmm
Oct 26 15:16:54 <[31d1]> http://lrrr.us/omicron/cisco.jpg
Oct 26 15:16:56 <sp3000> db48x: there's http://timeless.justdave.net/mxr-test/
Oct 26 15:17:25 <db48x> heh, timeless would have his own
Oct 26 15:17:44 <trunneml_> nope
Oct 26 15:18:06 <trunneml_> does not work
Oct 26 15:20:02 * Tak gives up
Oct 26 15:24:50 <dpryo> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y36fG2Oba0
Oct 26 15:31:34 <trunneml_> found the solution
Oct 26 15:32:11 <trunneml_> it isn't transmited over a parameter like the normal dbus interface
Oct 26 15:32:25 <trunneml_> the return value is in  retval
Oct 26 15:36:16 <trevarth1n> what's the best PDF reader for maemo?
Oct 26 15:38:54 <erstazi> what are some of your favorite wireless routers? I think I am going to get a WRT54GL
Oct 26 15:39:57 <Tak> any one that supports dd-wrt
Oct 26 15:40:11 <Tak> or rather, vice-versa
Oct 26 15:40:28 <zoran> I have wrt54gl and could say just the best for it
Oct 26 15:40:52 <zoran> I have wrt54gl and could say just the best for it
Oct 26 15:41:15 <Tak> you can say that again
Oct 26 15:41:19 <erstazi> heh
Oct 26 15:41:22 <zoran> sorry
Oct 26 15:41:35 <zoran> pointer stayed at the wrong shell
Oct 26 15:41:43 <erstazi> Tak: currently, unless one finds an older model of WRT54g, the WRT54GL is the best luck
Oct 26 15:41:58 <erstazi> zoran: using screen?
Oct 26 15:42:03 <Tak> yeah - I bought a wrt54gc once because I wasn't paying attention
Oct 26 15:42:22 <zoran> erstazi, yes, a lot
Oct 26 15:43:20 <zoran> Tak, gc was my first choice, but could not find it in a store. does it works as gl?
Oct 26 15:43:45 <Tak> dd-wrt doesn't work on the gc
Oct 26 15:43:45 <trunneml_> some one has expirens with libosso and dbus signals?
Oct 26 15:44:04 <Tak> or it didn't last I checked
Oct 26 15:44:11 <zoran> Tak, it was not linux box, as I recall
Oct 26 15:44:22 <Tak> yeah
Oct 26 15:44:52 <zoran> reading reviews helps nothing, when comes the time to buy the device
Oct 26 15:45:04 <erstazi> zoran: GL is flashable with any of the OSes for routers
Oct 26 15:45:13 <zoran> I think so
Oct 26 15:45:25 <erstazi> thats why I am going with the WRT54GL
Oct 26 15:45:26 <zoran> dd could be the choice
Oct 26 15:45:44 <erstazi> I might do OpenWRT
Oct 26 15:45:53 <zoran> yes
Oct 26 15:46:04 <zoran> even linksys vanilla
Oct 26 15:46:07 <erstazi> yeah
Oct 26 15:46:19 <erstazi> the main thing is, I want better control over whitelisting and blacklisting
Oct 26 15:46:26 <erstazi> primarily over whitelisting
Oct 26 15:46:31 <zoran> mac filtering
Oct 26 15:46:42 <zoran> dmz
Oct 26 15:46:43 <erstazi> and WEP
Oct 26 15:46:47 <zoran> wpa2
Oct 26 15:46:51 <erstazi> WPA2
Oct 26 15:46:53 <erstazi> yes
Oct 26 15:46:55 <zoran> yep
Oct 26 15:47:16 <erstazi> my old wireless died so I cannot access the internet unless I walk down the street and borrow from the neighbors, but I dislike that
Oct 26 15:47:19 <zoran> I have wpa aes on 770 and works monstruously
Oct 26 15:47:44 <erstazi> my old wireless router only had wep sadly
Oct 26 15:47:48 <zoran> dd-wrt adds signal strenght
Oct 26 15:48:00 <erstazi> I might check it out
Oct 26 15:48:02 <zoran> if you need it
Oct 26 15:48:20 <erstazi> but right now, I have no wireless, only a wired router
Oct 26 15:48:35 <erstazi> I might do ad-hoc with the extra wireless card
Oct 26 15:48:39 <erstazi> if I get despairate
Oct 26 15:48:47 * erstazi will be right back
Oct 26 15:49:34 <fish__> damn, why does maemomapper hangs every time the display switchs on
Oct 26 15:53:31 <zoran> hm, drm seems to go to some nokia phones. 6233 review on mobile-review.com
Oct 26 15:55:08 <gla55> what you mean with "drm seems to go to"
Oct 26 15:55:38 <gla55> they've had some sorts of drm's like forward lock options for a while
Oct 26 15:56:10 <zoran> cannot paste but gonna say it
Oct 26 15:56:55 <zoran> attempt to send app, received from pc or wap, will fail
Oct 26 15:57:52 <zoran> www.mobile-review.com/review/nokia-6233-en.shtml
Oct 26 15:57:55 <gla55> i'm under impression that it's the case with almost any nokia(or other)
Oct 26 15:58:15 <zoran> I was interesting in this model
Oct 26 15:58:19 <gla55> can't install app from obex anyways on at least most(at least older) s40's
Oct 26 15:58:40 <zoran> looks strange, don't you think?
Oct 26 15:59:11 <gla55> it's strange to mention it in a specific phones review more rather imoh
Oct 26 15:59:16 <gla55> imho
Oct 26 15:59:31 <gla55> i thought you meant with drm oma drm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OMA_DRM
Oct 26 15:59:45 <zoran> hm, dunno
Oct 26 16:00:09 <gla55> you can't forward send apps on s60's either(well, at least on 2nd eds you could rename the file and then send it tho)
Oct 26 16:00:09 <zoran> check on the link above, is says if it is
Oct 26 16:00:50 <zoran> I went to stores today to take a look at models 6120 and 6233
Oct 26 16:00:55 <gla55> anyways, with most phones, you can't forward send apps, most of the time it's not an issue
Oct 26 16:01:05 <zoran> what stories I heard, you would not believe
Oct 26 16:02:00 <gla55> on some motos you have to flip some bits to be able to install without doing it over wap
Oct 26 16:02:22 <zoran> this 6233 is not smart phone with symbian
Oct 26 16:02:36 <zoran> it has bt
Oct 26 16:02:47 <zoran> I could send something from 770, probably
Oct 26 16:03:11 <amr> what flash version is supported on the 770
Oct 26 16:03:12 <amr> 7 is it?
Oct 26 16:03:22 <gla55> but like i said, at least with older s40's you coldn't install jar apps that you sent with obex
Oct 26 16:03:38 <gla55> with s60's(like 6120 classic) you could
Oct 26 16:03:40 <mgedmin> amr: yes
Oct 26 16:03:44 <amr> ok ty
Oct 26 16:03:46 <zoran> would you concider that s40 phone as good?
Oct 26 16:04:26 <gla55> it's s40, it's ok, the rest is if you just like the form factor/design..
Oct 26 16:04:41 <zoran> about 110 g
Oct 26 16:04:46 <zoran> classical design
Oct 26 16:05:15 <zoran> now I have se j300i and just cannot hear what peaple are talking about
Oct 26 16:06:30 <gla55> i'd rather take the 6120 classic.. but i like s60 more than s40
Oct 26 16:06:38 <zoran> k
Oct 26 16:06:47 <zoran> it was my first intention
Oct 26 16:06:54 <zoran> and I started to read
Oct 26 16:07:02 <zoran> and what I found?
Oct 26 16:07:19 <zoran> that it heats a lot
Oct 26 16:07:36 <gla55> forum nokias side is a lot better than the consumer versions for finding tech specs btw  http://www.forum.nokia.com/devices/6120_classic
Oct 26 16:07:41 <gla55> heats a lot? wtf
Oct 26 16:08:08 <zoran> I have no idea, but people on forums complane  that
Oct 26 16:08:25 <zoran> some speaker issue
Oct 26 16:09:12 <zoran> gla55, I don't say it's a truth
Oct 26 16:10:17 <murrayc_> Has anyone else noticed that files are read-only in scratchbox after dist upgrading gutsy?
Oct 26 16:10:46 <murrayc_> For instance, when then doing a dist upgrade inside scratchbox, I get:
Oct 26 16:10:47 <Robot101> doesn't seem to be the case here
Oct 26 16:10:49 <murrayc_> W: Not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
Oct 26 16:10:49 <murrayc_> W: Not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
Oct 26 16:10:49 <murrayc_> E: Unable to write to /var/cache/apt/
Oct 26 16:10:49 <murrayc_> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
Oct 26 16:11:05 <murrayc_> And when creating packages it complains that the file system is read-only.
Oct 26 16:11:34 <mgedmin> what does 'mount' say (outside scratchbox)?
Oct 26 16:11:41 <mgedmin> or /proc/mounts
Oct 26 16:11:56 <zoran> gla55, it looks just 500 phones is memory for 6233
Oct 26 16:12:02 <murrayc_> murrayc@murrayc-vmware:~$ mount
Oct 26 16:12:02 <murrayc_> /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
Oct 26 16:12:02 <murrayc_> proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
Oct 26 16:12:02 <murrayc_> varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755)
Oct 26 16:12:13 <murrayc_> varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777)
Oct 26 16:12:15 <murrayc_> udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
Oct 26 16:12:19 <murrayc_> devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
Oct 26 16:12:21 <murrayc_> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
Oct 26 16:12:23 <murrayc_> lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/volatile type tmpfs (rw)
Oct 26 16:12:25 <murrayc_> none on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)
Oct 26 16:12:27 <murrayc_> /dev/pts on /scratchbox/users/murrayc/dev/pts type none (rw,bind)
Oct 26 16:12:29 <murrayc_> /dev/shm on /scratchbox/users/murrayc/dev/shm type none (rw,bind)
Oct 26 16:12:31 <murrayc_> /dev/scd0 on /media/cdrom0 type iso9660 (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,user=murrayc)
Oct 26 16:20:51 <murrayc_> It's a good thing I'm using vmware. I'll go back to a snapshot.
Oct 26 16:27:17 <|R> anybody is selling backplates w/battery replacements for the n800 to boost the battery capacity? http://blog.russnelson.com/770/N800-external-battery.html <- something like this but made a lot less fugly ;-) We could even have one USB rechargeable ;)
Oct 26 16:29:57 <|R> a full plate battery using the space below the pen's bump would give us 12h+ of continuous battery use i'm sure ;)
Oct 26 16:36:26 <j_ck> while you're at it, did anyone watched an entire movie in MPlayer and survived with the battery?
Oct 26 16:36:55 <mgedmin> I did
Oct 26 16:37:12 <mgedmin> ah, no, not mplayer
Oct 26 16:37:13 <j_ck> how much "life" did it take from maemo?
Oct 26 16:37:19 <mgedmin> that might have been the built-in media player
Oct 26 16:37:22 <j_ck> what did you used
Oct 26 16:37:38 <j_ck> built-in can play a full length movie?
Oct 26 16:37:45 <j_ck> isn't it slow for mpeg?
Oct 26 16:37:47 <mgedmin> if you recode it
Oct 26 16:37:57 <mgedmin> it all depends on the size and bitrate
Oct 26 16:38:40 <j_ck> i'm trying to skip that. want to see it playing regular. that would really put it up there with the portable players
Oct 26 16:39:00 <mgedmin> I suspect all players have their limits
Oct 26 16:39:15 <mgedmin> only most of them have bigger limits
Oct 26 16:39:20 <j_ck> :)
Oct 26 16:43:11 <wumpus> then again, you can't really expect it to do things that devices with a few times the cpu power or even hardwrae based video decoding can
Oct 26 16:44:24 <Bobbywaz> holla!
Oct 26 16:46:16 <bueroman> hello folks
Oct 26 16:46:34 <bueroman> i'm missing the libsdl-net1.2 package on chinook sdk
Oct 26 16:47:41 <bueroman> was it removed, or is it just missing?
Oct 26 16:51:37 <sciboy_> I crave N800 gaming.
Oct 26 16:52:02 <sciboy_> Finally learnt how to play Mahjong
Oct 26 16:55:09 <ccooke> Hum. Anyone know about java on the n800/n810?
Oct 26 16:55:43 <Tak> sciboy: pupnik's your man
Oct 26 16:56:14 <script> ccooke: i've searched for ages ... nothing usable found
Oct 26 16:57:10 <ccooke> script: Shame. I was hoping (for instance) goproblems.com would work
Oct 26 16:57:58 * ccooke has been using the Zaurus line for years - the n810 looks like a good replacement device since I can't get a new Z any more
Oct 26 16:58:28 * sciboy is brainstorming mini-game concepts.
Oct 26 16:59:12 * Tak playing with rubygame
Oct 26 16:59:34 <Bobbywaz> what the frig is a zaurus
Oct 26 17:00:40 <sciboy> Bobbywaz, One of the earlier commercial linux handhelds.
Oct 26 17:00:45 <ccooke> Bobbywaz: Clamshell palmtop. VGA screen. Made by sharp. Built in hard disk. Linux by design (qt based). Line discontinued as of earlier this year
Oct 26 17:01:08 <Tak> clamshell ones were only in japan :-(
Oct 26 17:01:10 <Bobbywaz> innnnteresting.
Oct 26 17:01:21 <Bobbywaz> I wish the n810 was clamshell :(
Oct 26 17:01:34 <Bobbywaz> just a tiny little laptop
Oct 26 17:01:50 <ccooke> Tak: yeah, but easy to get. And I was in Tokyo building a datacentre this time last year
Oct 26 17:02:47 <Tak> I heard the english translations weren't great
Oct 26 17:03:05 <ccooke> Tak: no, they were fine
Oct 26 17:03:10 <gla55> bro had one of those 5500's
Oct 26 17:03:13 <Tak> cool
Oct 26 17:03:15 <gla55> friggin cool
Oct 26 17:03:26 <gla55> back then
Oct 26 17:03:28 <gla55> when it was new
Oct 26 17:03:54 <ccooke> The clamshells are lovely devices - especially for playing around with. They're almost impossible to brick
Oct 26 17:04:28 <sciboy> I've always wanted to develop a game for a portable device.
Oct 26 17:05:22 <gla55> go for it
Oct 26 17:08:42 <sciboy> Already am, it's partially why I got the N800.
Oct 26 17:10:46 <sciboy> I'll be using Gecko to do the heavy lifting for me, only reason I hadn't done a game for GP2X etc. is because I'm an artist/animator not a programmer, I can handle scripting just not blitting graphics etc.
Oct 26 17:12:10 <sciboy> Plenty of web dev. tools and a graphical cross-platform environment to test with.
Oct 26 17:13:26 <sciboy> So in short, BINGO!
Oct 26 17:18:15 <amr> make a racing game
Oct 26 17:18:19 <amr> i cannot find one anywhere
Oct 26 17:18:21 <sciboy> I need to get familiar with the devices limitations and controls first though, so I have to work on mini-games before I consider touching anything major.
Oct 26 17:18:22 <amr> even a really badly done one
Oct 26 17:18:52 <sciboy> I have a design for a racing game, but it was planned for 3D. =/
Oct 26 17:19:06 <amr> if doom can work
Oct 26 17:19:12 <amr> im sure a very basic racing one can work
Oct 26 17:19:38 <amr> i'd hope anyway
Oct 26 17:19:49 <sciboy> I just don't think it's suitable for the maemo platform, especially without the powervr to assist.
Oct 26 17:20:04 <Tak> heh, doom's not using 3d
Oct 26 17:20:25 <amr> who cares
Oct 26 17:20:26 <sciboy> I know, which is why I disregarded that comment, I can only take pseudo graphics so far.
Oct 26 17:20:31 <amr> just make me a racing game ok >:(
Oct 26 17:20:45 <sciboy> And a racer would be a case where it wouldn't work terribly well.
Oct 26 17:21:08 <amr> i want a racer :(
Oct 26 17:22:32 <sciboy> Oh cheer up, I'll think it over but don't get your hopes up, it's unlikely and better suited to someone who can push the performance rather than working around it like I do.
Oct 26 17:22:54 <amr> :P
Oct 26 17:24:52 <inz> Hmm, I wonder if I dare alter mce.ini in a postinst script...
Oct 26 17:24:57 <sciboy> The fact that I use more texture planes than models in my 3D animations is evidence enough to that.
Oct 26 17:28:14 <oyvind> How can you play 3d games with the button layout
Oct 26 17:29:51 <sciboy> By simplifying controls and taking advantage of the bottom left and right corner of the touch screen.
Oct 26 17:30:11 <sciboy> Which are in easy and unobtrusive distance for the thumbs.
Oct 26 17:30:53 <sciboy> Hell, make that either edge of the screen.
Oct 26 17:31:24 <oyvind> i guess with n810 it be easyer
Oct 26 17:31:37 <sciboy> Why?
Oct 26 17:31:57 <sciboy> Personally I wouldn't even consider any design that required you to slide the keyboard out.
Oct 26 17:32:14 <oyvind> couz of the new implemented keyboard
Oct 26 17:32:24 <sciboy> The screen is just too perfect of an intuitive interface.
Oct 26 17:33:35 <ccooke> sciboy: What are you thinking of, in terms of minigames?
Oct 26 17:33:42 <sciboy> Let's take the racing game as an example.
Oct 26 17:34:56 <sciboy> Left and right of the screen for steering, and while doing so, make the difference from top to bottom to manage speed (and strength of steering)
Oct 26 17:37:01 <sciboy> ccooke, I don't know yet that's why I'm brainstorming right now, the major game I'll be doing is a side-scrolling action adventure, but I'm just going to pick a few small ideas I could crank out in a few weeks to learn how I can handle this device.
Oct 26 17:38:51 <oyvind> What kind of games could be run via an emulator, it have power enuf to run nintendo ds games or psp games?
Oct 26 17:40:28 <sciboy> I doubt it,
Oct 26 17:41:20 <sciboy> We've got no hardware acceleration from what I understand.
Oct 26 17:42:28 <sciboy> The hardware (PowerVR) is actually in there, but Nokia isn't supporting it so we can't use it.
Oct 26 17:42:57 <lopz> hola
Oct 26 17:43:04 <sciboy> Hi lopz.
Oct 26 17:43:25 <lopz> hey sciboy
Oct 26 17:43:26 <_Monkey> sciboy is probably my username at gp32x?
Oct 26 17:45:34 <Tak> probably it could emulate games for any pre-3d-rendering system, given that somebody created an emulator targeted and optimized specifically for the IT hardware
Oct 26 17:47:46 <sciboy> How long before the N810 and OS2008 is being released?
Oct 26 17:48:47 <playya> i heard novembre
Oct 26 17:50:02 <playya> the new OS loks great
Oct 26 17:50:27 <sciboy> It looks different?
Oct 26 17:50:42 <playya> yes
Oct 26 17:50:45 <playya> the apps too
Oct 26 17:51:53 <playya> i flashed my n800 with it by mistake
Oct 26 17:52:49 <DRoBeR> Good evening, everyone. :)
Oct 26 17:53:16 <playya> hi
Oct 26 17:53:26 <sciboy> I want to flash mine with it too. =(
Oct 26 17:56:11 <playya> you cant reach this server from the internet
Oct 26 17:57:01 <tko> where can you reach it from, then?
Oct 26 17:57:56 <playya> internal
Oct 26 17:57:56 <_Monkey> internal is, like, crap for me
Oct 26 17:58:18 <playya> but it crashed all the time
Oct 26 17:58:31 <playya> maybe one reason why its not out atm
Oct 26 17:59:59 <sciboy> MicroB is broke for me, but I can't be bothered reporting when the new browser is coming so soon.
Oct 26 18:01:24 <playya> isnt a beta available?
Oct 26 18:03:40 <Jiten> n800 was useful in an unexpected way :) I managed to configure my desktop debian system to get internet connectivity through my phone by copying the pppd config :)
Oct 26 18:04:23 <sciboy> Heh.
Oct 26 18:05:27 <Bobbywaz> lolsend
Oct 26 18:05:53 <doug1> does anyone know if there is an official release date of OS2008 out yet?
Oct 26 18:09:57 <Bobbywaz> [13:48] playya: i heard novembre
Oct 26 18:09:58 <Bobbywaz> [13:50] playya: the new OS loks great
Oct 26 18:09:58 <Bobbywaz> [13:50] sciboy: It looks different?
Oct 26 18:10:02 <Bobbywaz> [13:58] playya: but it crashed all the time
Oct 26 18:10:03 <Bobbywaz> [13:58] playya: maybe one reason why its not out atm
Oct 26 18:12:08 <Bobbywaz> timriker spelled backwards is rekermit
Oct 26 18:12:24 <Bobbywaz> it's the evil reincarnation of kermit the frog!
Oct 26 18:12:32 <TimRiker> almost.
Oct 26 18:12:49 <TimRiker> ~reverse timriker
Oct 26 18:12:51 <infobot> rekirmit
Oct 26 18:13:09 <Bobbywaz> close enough
Oct 26 18:13:13 <TimRiker> ~reverse it's the evil reincarnation of kermit the frog!
Oct 26 18:13:14 <Bobbywaz> ....muppet
Oct 26 18:13:14 <infobot> !gorf eht timrek fo noitanracnier live eht s'ti
Oct 26 18:13:43 <Bobbywaz> ~reverse racecar
Oct 26 18:13:44 <infobot> racecar
Oct 26 18:13:55 <Bobbywaz> it's broken.
Oct 26 18:14:03 <Bobbywaz> ~reverse gohandasalami
Oct 26 18:14:04 <sciboy> ~reverse sciboy
Oct 26 18:14:05 <infobot> imalasadnahog
Oct 26 18:14:05 <infobot> yobics
Oct 26 18:14:10 <GeneralAntilles> Ha
Oct 26 18:14:11 <sciboy> ~reverse infobot
Oct 26 18:14:12 <GeneralAntilles> BOT SPAM!
Oct 26 18:14:13 <infobot> tobofni
Oct 26 18:14:18 <Bobbywaz> ~reverse gohangasalami
Oct 26 18:14:19 <infobot> imalasagnahog
Oct 26 18:14:26 <sciboy> ~reverse GeneralAntilles
Oct 26 18:14:26 <playya> ~reverse abtman
Oct 26 18:14:27 <infobot> sellitnAlareneG
Oct 26 18:14:27 <infobot> namtba
Oct 26 18:14:37 <TimRiker> ok.. take it to #botpark
Oct 26 18:14:50 <Bobbywaz> go hang a salami backwards spells out I
Oct 26 18:14:54 <Bobbywaz> I'm a lasanga hog
Oct 26 18:17:55 <playya> where can i get sqlite2.8 for ubunut?
Oct 26 18:18:45 <playya> i only have 3.0
Oct 26 18:18:55 <ccooke> playya: Gutsy's default version is 2.8.17-2.1build1
Oct 26 18:19:17 <playya> oh wrong channel
Oct 26 18:19:24 <playya> should be in #mms
Oct 26 18:19:30 <ccooke> that is, if you install "sqlite", you get 2.8.17-2.1build1. If you install sqlite3, you get "3.4.2-1build1"
Oct 26 18:20:34 <playya> ok
Oct 26 18:20:40 <soon> Hi folks - I'm considering a Nokia n800 - I want a PDA which can sync witk KDE Kontact ... what would ya'll recommend  (I dont want any mini-screens either)
Oct 26 18:20:53 <playya> i needed the dev package which is in libsplite-de ;)
Oct 26 18:24:10 <keesj> sciboy: what is broken about microb?
Oct 26 18:24:35 <sciboy> It dies when I try to load any page. =P
Oct 26 18:25:01 <keesj> I had that once
Oct 26 18:25:43 <keesj> that time it was the .browser file that was wrongly configured to us opera
Oct 26 18:30:16 <Jiten> soon: at least OS2007 versions can't currently sync ... at least not with my phone (nokia 6120).
Oct 26 18:31:43 <Jiten> it might be possible to persuade opensync into doing it if you install the GPE suite and use that instead of the default program.
Oct 26 18:36:56 <soon> but does the n800 have a pim programme at ?all
Oct 26 18:39:04 <rev> not built-in, soon
Oct 26 18:39:06 <rev> but you can add them
Oct 26 18:39:13 <rev> not sure about syncing them with anything
Oct 26 18:39:50 <rev> in my case, i never sync'd any PDA i've had, i use a PDA as a stand-alone computerish thing myself, whether its Newton OS, CE, Palm OS, or Linux
Oct 26 18:41:51 <soon> ok
Oct 26 20:05:02 <Tak> haha, awesome
Oct 26 20:05:11 * Tak running rubygame demo on 770
Oct 26 20:52:58 <Andy80> hi all
Oct 26 20:59:34 <lopz> hola
Oct 26 22:38:04 <Lateralus> Is there any tutorial or howto for the chinook api as relates to home applets? Almost every library for pre-chinook development is gone. Is there a source example anywhere?
Oct 26 22:42:59 <Lateralus> I've found a bit of information at http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HildonDesktopPluginHowto
Oct 26 22:50:59 <rafl> so what's needed to get an application I've got to run on my n800 onto http://maemo.org/downloads/?
Oct 26 22:53:07 <Lateralus> rafl: http://maemo.org/community/application-catalog/developer-manual.html
Oct 26 22:53:28 <rafl> Lateralus++ # thanks
Oct 27 01:49:31 <Lateralus> Is anyone aware of what include files are used to use the home applet legacy API (hildon_home_applet_lib_initialize, etc)?
Oct 27 02:57:06 <sparr> i think im going to sell my 770s
Oct 27 02:59:16 <GeneralAntilles> They make wonderful couch/nightstand machines.
Oct 27 02:59:24 <GeneralAntilles> Blue the extra batteries for your N800.
Oct 27 02:59:32 <GeneralAntilles> s/Blue/Plus
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