**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Feb 10 02:59:57 2008 Feb 10 03:00:13 Beats the other solutions Feb 10 03:00:55 I have an icon on my N800 KDE desktop called "Firefox" Feb 10 03:01:00 that executes: Feb 10 03:01:00 killall synergyc;synergyc --name banana 192.168.1.20;ssh -X jfisher@192.168.1.11 firefox Feb 10 03:01:12 :) Feb 10 03:01:40 I'd like to run my IM/IRC client only off of the N800 Feb 10 03:01:49 and gmail/greader Feb 10 03:02:16 The only place I run my IM/IRC client is at home Feb 10 03:02:18 and now I get to use grabanddrag extension for kinetic scrolling.. Feb 10 03:03:13 I use znc + bitlbee to get multi-client-single-session IRC+IM (usually x-chat) on all of my machines.. Feb 10 03:03:27 so I can start a conversation somewhere and continue it elsewhere without the other party knowing.. Feb 10 03:03:33 weechat+bitlbee and ssh around Feb 10 03:03:47 I used to use weechat.. Feb 10 03:03:50 until I found znc :) Feb 10 03:04:00 then I can use weechat and/or any local (i.e., usable with touch) client Feb 10 03:04:01 screen+weechat+bitlbee Feb 10 03:04:08 yeah, I use finch+screen Feb 10 03:04:10 right. which is lovely.. Feb 10 03:04:11 but.. Feb 10 03:04:16 but the n810 terminal is kind of poop for that Feb 10 03:04:17 if you screen+weechat with multi machines Feb 10 03:04:26 you are stuck with a weechat of a certain size.. Feb 10 03:04:30 that has to be appropriate for all devices Feb 10 03:04:40 at the same time? Feb 10 03:04:40 since it doesn't have any mode (which I can find) that's 80x24/25 Feb 10 03:04:51 I detach when I'm not around >_> Feb 10 03:04:59 you can weechat+znc+bitlbee and use one weechat per device Feb 10 03:05:15 and then each gets a proper-fitting client Feb 10 03:05:28 I have a weechat running on the server.. Feb 10 03:05:51 but I don't want to bother with detaching Feb 10 03:06:03 and if I forget, I don't want to have to kill (or type) anything Feb 10 03:06:13 once setup, this 'just works' Feb 10 03:06:23 :P Feb 10 03:06:34 znc stores buffers for you also, so when a new client connects to the same session, you get a history-- Feb 10 03:06:49 your way is fine for what you do. it wasn't for me. Feb 10 03:07:20 mmk. I'm stuck in my ways, I prefer to screen -rdA :) Feb 10 03:07:36 I have IRC/IM on the HTPC in the living room, all machines here connected via synergy and the N800 and the laptop that I sometimes carry around.. Feb 10 03:07:44 screen -x is the only way to roll Feb 10 03:07:46 see, if I had an N810 it may be different Feb 10 03:07:52 -x is for l00zerz Feb 10 03:07:59 fysa, how so? Feb 10 03:08:09 because then xterm wouldn't be like pulling teeth. Feb 10 03:08:19 God created terminals at 80x24, so resizing is irrelevant Feb 10 03:08:45 http://en.znc.in/wiki/index.php/ZNC Feb 10 03:08:46 I have a bluetooth keyboard I got from a friend for dirt cheap, good stuff. Feb 10 03:08:55 Yeah, I already looked it up Feb 10 03:09:09 xterm is pulling teeth on the 810, too Feb 10 03:09:10 OK. Feb 10 03:09:18 there are some ... important ... keys which aren't on the keyboard Feb 10 03:09:21 thanks Navi i wanted to get into screen again - will remember rdA Feb 10 03:09:29 like, for example, | Feb 10 03:09:53 pupnik, :D Feb 10 03:10:39 for a few years i feel like any time i read something, something else gets forgotten Feb 10 03:12:39 elb, what keyboard, a normal one? Feb 10 03:12:48 or the poke keyboard? Feb 10 03:13:09 the n810 slide-out keyboard Feb 10 03:14:46 mmm Feb 10 03:20:41 ./ Feb 10 03:24:27 ./ Feb 10 03:40:34 Hi Feb 10 03:41:30 Hi Feb 10 03:53:34 me again >.< my n800 /os2007 doesn't seem to turn on anymore after powering it on (battery is charged) is there a reset of some sort? Feb 10 03:55:43 nvm, i guess a little time off fixed it Feb 10 03:55:43 tried removing the battery for a while? Feb 10 03:56:43 goat|work, see https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2673 Feb 10 03:58:36 I wish I could see more dubug info in dmesg about mmc Feb 10 03:59:08 thanks leif__ Feb 10 03:59:48 Tama^2, http://intr.overt.org/2.2008.50-mmc-kernel/ Feb 10 04:01:10 I know about that one leif but I am trying to put together reliable information to post a bug and I am afraid that using a custom kernel will invalidate my point Feb 10 04:02:11 in other words I fear the official devs will consider my information less reliable because I was not running the stock kernel Feb 10 04:02:34 I am trying to nail down a problem with excessive mmc power consumption when idle Feb 10 04:03:07 yeah it would be useful to build the kernel with just the debug patch, and not the highspeed Feb 10 05:22:11 hello everyone Feb 10 05:22:16 hi Feb 10 05:23:05 is this room where i can possibly get some help with my new n810? Feb 10 05:23:16 sure, ask away :) Feb 10 05:23:54 awesome. well first off youtube videos wont come up. says i need a newer version of flash Feb 10 05:24:02 finally... for a week it did succeed to connect networking n800 <--> blackjack phone Feb 10 05:24:07 wow Feb 10 05:24:50 Ant23il, hmm...I haven't looked at youtube lately Feb 10 05:26:08 ahh ok. well i have one other question. is it possible to pull files from a shared windows drive with this device? Feb 10 05:26:32 yup...right now it only works if the share isn't password protected though Feb 10 05:26:50 the shares should show up in file manager Feb 10 05:27:08 harsh. not exactly safe heh Feb 10 05:27:30 I guess it depends on who you let on your network Feb 10 05:27:57 yea. more like trying to keep the wife out :) Feb 10 05:28:45 well ty for your help. you gents have a nice night. thanks johnx Feb 10 05:28:51 sure Feb 10 05:28:59 let me see if I can find something about flash quick Feb 10 05:29:14 or...nevermind Feb 10 05:52:14 johnx: lol? Feb 10 05:52:21 hmm? Feb 10 05:52:48 lol Feb 10 05:53:10 just tell him to use UKTube from the UKMP project for youtube :P Feb 10 05:53:25 does that still work? Feb 10 05:53:31 i think so Feb 10 05:53:43 I thought that it got broken by youtube changing their URLs Feb 10 05:53:48 but I really wouldn't know... Feb 10 05:53:52 i think he fixed it? Feb 10 05:53:53 lemmie check Feb 10 05:56:00 wwell, A) the videos work on the youtube page for me Feb 10 05:56:18 tho laggy as usual Feb 10 05:56:41 I was going to help him but he logged off after I told him to hang on for a second Feb 10 05:56:48 yeah... saw Feb 10 05:56:53 so...meh Feb 10 05:57:04 anyways, booted into debian on the N800 Feb 10 05:57:11 tracking down sound issues Feb 10 05:57:18 looks like you may be right though... uktube stuck on initializing download Feb 10 05:57:31 johnx: ah, no sound yet? or just buggy Feb 10 05:57:40 very close to sound Feb 10 05:57:45 ? Feb 10 05:57:51 alsamixer works, but device files for pcm aren't created Feb 10 05:58:11 :( Feb 10 05:58:16 should be easy Feb 10 05:58:26 I got alsamixer working in about 20 minutes once I actually got around to it Feb 10 06:13:31 is there any way to tell in python if I'm on maemo or linux? os.name is the same for both Feb 10 06:17:42 I think vagalume must do it somehow Feb 10 06:20:56 you could check for a non-empty OSSO_VERSION Feb 10 06:28:06 osso-xterm Feb 10 06:31:37 hello all Feb 10 06:32:00 hello Feb 10 06:32:08 hi Feb 10 06:32:37 hi again john Feb 10 06:34:24 is there something special im supposed to do to access a shared folder in windows? Feb 10 06:34:57 i can see the pc, but nothing inside the folder =/ Feb 10 06:35:26 no idea :/ Feb 10 06:35:32 it should "just work" Feb 10 06:36:25 blarg. Feb 10 06:36:44 hmm, could be some access right related issue. as in, is the shared folder passord protected or something? as i dont think the file manager has any login dialog Feb 10 06:38:20 i removed all users from the shared permissions and added back access for everyone Feb 10 06:39:50 firewall open? Feb 10 06:40:06 t_s_o, it finds his computer though Feb 10 06:40:18 indeed, silly question. sorry Feb 10 06:40:31 np :) Feb 10 06:40:48 yeppers turned the wall off for this =) Feb 10 06:41:07 * johnx remains blissfully ignorant when it comes to troubleshooting file sharing on windows Feb 10 06:41:25 its ok. just assume i know nothing. im very new to linux. Feb 10 06:42:35 it "just works" with my samba shares Feb 10 06:42:43 don't think i have any windows shares to test Feb 10 06:43:28 seems to work ok here to, winxp at the moment Feb 10 06:43:31 so, some kind of samba software should be added to the tablet Feb 10 06:43:41 samba is already on the tablet Feb 10 06:43:46 if one use 08, there should be no need Feb 10 06:43:48 built into the file app Feb 10 06:44:17 yes this is 08. new 810. just got it yesterday Feb 10 06:44:20 maybe the prob is on teh server side? Feb 10 06:44:38 zoran: i would not be surprised Feb 10 06:44:50 Ant-X3: xp or vista on the pc? Feb 10 06:44:59 xp pro Feb 10 06:45:01 reboot everything you can find, including your fridge, dishwasher and your car Feb 10 06:45:10 :P Feb 10 06:45:12 I'm not win savvy, but some permissions have to be set, even on win Feb 10 06:45:34 lol i can give that a shot. Feb 10 06:45:48 not with hammer Feb 10 06:45:55 im fairly sure i have the permissons right Feb 10 06:46:02 after i opened up the firewall and started up sharing it works ok here, in simple mode that is... Feb 10 06:46:40 Ant-X3, how do you connected those computers? Feb 10 06:46:57 everything is through lan Feb 10 06:47:08 n810 is via wifi? Feb 10 06:47:12 yes Feb 10 06:47:17 router? Feb 10 06:47:22 also my other two laptops Feb 10 06:47:30 yes router Feb 10 06:47:35 do you have ip address on n810? Feb 10 06:47:56 ifconfig Feb 10 06:48:07 if or ip Feb 10 06:48:17 ip is on win, as I recall Feb 10 06:49:19 or simply clear all the cash on n810 Feb 10 06:49:42 you may need to allow anonymous browsing to get a list of shares Feb 10 06:49:46 (on the windows side) Feb 10 06:49:48 ok how do i do that? sorry im a newb Feb 10 06:50:03 the clear cache Feb 10 06:50:26 how do you want to find the share files, browser? Feb 10 06:51:04 i was trying to use file manager Feb 10 06:51:37 everytime i tried to use the browser it would put http:// in front of the network ip i typed in Feb 10 06:52:37 what is should be? smb? Feb 10 06:53:37 zoran: os2008 file manager has smb browsing built in, that's what he's using. Feb 10 06:53:46 k Feb 10 06:54:01 if it has any sort of a cache, i'd expect it to be cleared when you close file manager. If it isn't, i don't know of any way to clear it. Feb 10 06:54:14 ok Feb 10 06:54:35 in bsd world, I found samba-nmblookup to make a look at that share Feb 10 06:54:50 zoran: samba cli tools aren't in 2008 Feb 10 06:55:06 heh Feb 10 06:56:35 what if all units are rebooted, turned off and then file server put to life first Feb 10 06:57:12 ill give that a shot. i really appreciate the help guys. brb Feb 10 06:57:14 btw, what file formats are on the share? Feb 10 06:57:15 if it's seeing the server in the shares list and can't browse the contents then it's an issue on windows with how it exports the shared directories to an anonymous browser. Feb 10 06:57:39 zoran: smb shares are smb/cifs format, the underlying filesystem is irrelevant, it's a meta-layer Feb 10 06:57:58 dragorn, you think it needs software indentification? Feb 10 06:58:43 like: "hey, I'm your win friend, let me in!" Feb 10 06:58:46 I don't know what you mean by "software authentication". Smb = Windows file sharing, and it has support for authentication and share announcement control, yes. Feb 10 06:59:09 have to google for it now, must to say Feb 10 07:01:18 another complaint on ITT Feb 10 07:01:40 no files/folders as error message Feb 10 07:03:15 mount -t cifs //server/directoryes -o user=user,password=pass ? Feb 10 07:04:19 zoran: he's not using a cli samba. It's built into the file manager. Feb 10 07:04:27 eh, on the same ITT it says that file manages does not supportauthentication for cifs Feb 10 07:04:39 *manager Feb 10 07:04:50 hence, he needs to check his anonymous browsing permissions on windows :P Feb 10 07:06:22 dragorn, is it possible to have 2 Ant user connections at the same time? Feb 10 07:06:41 i don't know what an ant user is Feb 10 07:06:56 very very small 8 legged user Feb 10 07:06:57 Ant-X3, from laptop and n810 Feb 10 07:07:05 =/ still picks up the computer. no files though Feb 10 07:07:33 Ant-X3, disconnect laptops from the share to see if it works then Feb 10 07:07:46 yes it's perfectly possible to have multiple users browsing the same share Feb 10 07:07:57 with the same name? Feb 10 07:07:59 if you see the share and don't see files, it's a permissions issue on the share. Feb 10 07:08:02 Yes, of course. Feb 10 07:08:05 im only on through the 810. only things on are the server and the 810 atm Feb 10 07:08:09 not to be confused with an aunt user, which is like a luser but is your fathers sister Feb 10 07:08:29 Proteous: clever. Feb 10 07:08:34 :P Feb 10 07:09:26 ITT, maybe wrongly, says that only multimedia files could be shared that way. I doubt Feb 10 07:09:35 yup that's wrong Feb 10 07:10:34 if fm has acces to smb/cifs, some libs are around. maybe they could be used the other way Feb 10 07:11:10 something like sshfs Feb 10 07:11:28 zoran, there's not reason you couldn't compile up smbnetfs for fuse Feb 10 07:11:35 i did see a guide on maemo.org on how to install cifs and mount the share in xterm Feb 10 07:11:36 patch to fuse Feb 10 07:12:04 libs are there, since you user it Feb 10 07:12:09 *use Feb 10 07:12:18 or install full samba. But none of that will play terribly nice with filemanager. Knock yourself out in xterm tho. Feb 10 07:12:20 so, just front end is needed Feb 10 07:12:49 Ant-X3, what is on that server? Feb 10 07:12:57 depending how smb is implemented, maybe. Maybe not. Feb 10 07:13:50 what exactly are you needing to know? Feb 10 07:14:00 what are file types on it? Feb 10 07:14:11 why do you think that has anything to do with his problem? Feb 10 07:14:22 mostly .avi and mp3. just media Feb 10 07:14:23 never mind. Have fun. Feb 10 07:14:25 shoot in blank Feb 10 07:15:01 Ant-X3, if you keep having problems with this a UPnP server for media files could be an alternate solution Feb 10 07:15:01 k, maybe some logs could be found on win? Feb 10 07:15:43 upnp. i havent set that up before, but im game for anything that will work Feb 10 07:16:22 u c shared files from laptops? Feb 10 07:17:09 yup Feb 10 07:21:53 the laptops could access the share when it was passcoded Feb 10 07:22:36 ITT sais repeatedly that passworded shares are a no go Feb 10 07:22:50 sadly Feb 10 07:22:54 zoran, he knows that...he already changed that Feb 10 07:22:56 maybe when i removed them and added the "everyone" group i screwed something up Feb 10 07:23:06 yea i removed pw Feb 10 07:23:24 Ant-X3, is there another way to do that, like "allow anonymous" or something? Feb 10 07:25:04 maybe "guest" Feb 10 07:26:09 i moved to the security function. i do see an option for "list folder contents" Feb 10 07:27:17 xp or n810? Feb 10 07:27:37 xp Feb 10 07:28:07 stupid explorer crapped out >.< going to try again Feb 10 07:28:50 people let user option empty and set uid as user,guest Feb 10 07:29:03 if possible on filemanager Feb 10 07:32:47 smbfs and smbclient on maemo-hackers site Feb 10 07:33:18 ah, os2006, sorry Feb 10 07:34:26 ahh well. ill have to play with this tomorrow. thanks for the help everyone. Feb 10 07:34:44 hey, found a link to something insteresting! Feb 10 07:35:03 cifs.ko from fanoush module archive Feb 10 07:35:53 than smbfs package from cid armel repo Feb 10 07:36:11 poster is gole on ITT, he said it worked for him Feb 10 07:36:21 he see files in filemanager Feb 10 07:41:17 maybe the solution is this, if any1 interesting to read few line? Feb 10 07:41:47 take fanoush cifs.ko module and load it Feb 10 07:41:55 than mount from command like: Feb 10 07:42:02 zoran, he left... Feb 10 07:42:19 logs are around for him to read Feb 10 07:42:34 k Feb 10 07:47:14 where do I report a bug (feature request) for os2008 chat-ui? Feb 10 07:48:36 bugs.maemo.org Feb 10 07:48:46 thanks Feb 10 09:21:18 <[AD]Turbo> hi all Feb 10 09:27:21 hi Feb 10 10:16:25 i'd like to profile fmopl some time Feb 10 10:16:29 and the rest of the sb code Feb 10 11:33:35 hi Feb 10 11:38:01 what is application to play movie and mp3 together on n800 ? Feb 10 11:57:02 ohh nice new cover selector in canola Feb 10 11:58:26 cannola? Feb 10 11:58:49 michele : what is application to play movie and mp3 together on n800 ? Feb 10 11:59:11 on play list Feb 10 11:59:37 http://openbossa.indt.org.br/canola/ Feb 10 12:00:04 canolar is possible? Feb 10 12:01:05 K-Fox: look at the site and see if it's what you need Feb 10 12:05:10 morning all Feb 10 12:07:48 istalling canola 2 beta Feb 10 12:08:44 can I access the internet from inside scratchbox? Feb 10 12:08:49 yes Feb 10 12:08:57 you should be able to anyway ;) Feb 10 12:09:32 should it just work? because, you know, it doesn't :) Feb 10 12:10:05 it should do yes, is it a dns problem? Feb 10 12:11:46 yes, that was the problem, thank you lardman Feb 10 12:11:52 np Feb 10 12:14:17 oh great... I wanted to debug a segfaul in modest, but in scratchbox it works fine :/ Feb 10 12:14:37 and I can't get it to dump core on the device Feb 10 12:15:53 gdb on device? Feb 10 12:16:53 eh... I was trying to avoid it :) Feb 10 12:17:43 oh well Feb 10 12:18:07 michele_: if you find modest crashes, please file a bug Feb 10 12:18:18 with as much detail as you can get about servers etc. Feb 10 12:18:33 esp. test accounts are helpful, so we can reproduce Feb 10 12:19:00 hey djcb Feb 10 12:19:23 I don't think I can provide a test account, as it's my company mail server Feb 10 12:19:44 it's a kerio mail server Feb 10 12:20:04 ok.... well, if we can reproduce it, it's probably easy to fix Feb 10 12:20:08 if not Feb 10 12:20:17 it gets a bit harder Feb 10 12:20:26 and I suspect it's due to its funky imap layout Feb 10 12:20:50 as I had to mess with prefixes in thunderbird too Feb 10 12:21:00 well, modest shouldn't crash Feb 10 12:21:17 michele_, to get core dumps I think /media/mmcX/core-dumps/ needs to exist Feb 10 12:21:33 jku: really? let's try Feb 10 12:22:18 also, you might want to try sp-rich-core: http://maemo.org/development/tools/ Feb 10 12:22:36 I have yet to try it, but it looks useful Feb 10 12:30:03 oh yes Feb 10 12:30:50 jku: you was right, the directory needs to be there Feb 10 12:32:44 that's a useful thing to know, thanks Feb 10 12:36:29 uhm I wonder if I can use a core dump from the device to get a backtrace in scratchbox... Feb 10 12:36:50 canola2 beta do not play automatically a next movie on movie part Feb 10 13:11:09 lardman: about core dumps... http://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/4-x/maemo_debugging_guide.html#debugcorefilesindevice Feb 10 13:19:39 ah, I never bothered to read the latest one; thanks :) Feb 10 14:11:50 I need libgdbm-dev to compile maemomapper from svn.Any idea where to get it from ? Feb 10 14:24:47 * Jaffa sighs annoyedly at ITT Feb 10 14:35:37 Jaffa, haha. I'm ready (again) to just torch the place. Feb 10 14:35:49 Google is running slowly again Feb 10 14:40:22 hmmm Feb 10 14:40:24 hmmm Feb 10 14:41:20 * lcuk thought xchat was single instance Feb 10 14:44:25 10 kBytes transfered, at 0 Bytes/s Feb 10 14:44:43 * lcuk is a time traveller Feb 10 14:44:58 let's see, carry the one, divide by zero and (segmentation fault) Feb 10 14:45:25 its in windows so its expected Feb 10 14:47:52 * lcuk puts 10p in the SVN meter and hopes it gets faster Feb 10 14:54:11 anyone got a link for a site about starting XWindows programming? I'd like to work out what to link my test program against Feb 10 14:54:52 lardman: "XWindows"?-) Feb 10 14:55:08 X Feb 10 14:55:30 Xfree, Xorg, X11, all that sort of stuff :) Feb 10 14:55:35 what to link against? you mean -lX11 Feb 10 14:55:37 '? Feb 10 14:55:53 yes, that's exactly it, do I only need to link against libX11? Feb 10 14:56:16 for basic X functions that is Feb 10 14:56:18 * michele_ really wants aptitude on device Feb 10 14:56:24 if its just a simple xlib app.. if you use threads(lotsa probs wit X and threads) -lpthread Feb 10 14:56:37 * lcuk is glad his device doesnt have attitude Feb 10 14:56:44 yeah, just -lX11 if you're basically creating windows, drawing, etc Feb 10 14:56:58 yep, very simple, creates a window then allows dsp to overwrite that area, then destroys window Feb 10 14:57:28 yeah, -lX11 should do it then Feb 10 14:57:32 lcuk, it doesn't? :P Feb 10 14:57:39 lard, any chance i could borrow that test (not interested in the dsp section) Feb 10 14:57:44 no, mine doesnt Feb 10 14:58:01 lcuk: sure, you can take a look at it, not sure it will work mind you ;) Feb 10 14:58:44 thats ok, im just looking through the omapfb stuff at the mo and hitting a few dead ends, if i go through x at least i can follow the path Feb 10 14:59:15 best bet is probably to follow svb's code from mplayer, that's what I've copied basically Feb 10 14:59:21 (it doesnt help that ive got youngest hovering around) Feb 10 14:59:23 GRumble. where can i find libgpsmgr-dev ? Feb 10 14:59:27 file:///home/simon/development/DSP/test-framebuffer-scaler-colorspace-770/vo_nokia770.c.html Feb 10 14:59:38 melmoth: it's in the repos in the sdk for me Feb 10 14:59:39 * melmoth note it s a bit of a pain to find devel package on maemo Feb 10 14:59:45 oops, not a proper link any more Feb 10 14:59:47 ive just been checking out the svn for mplayer but its failed about 4 times, and theres not much more i can do reading the websvn Feb 10 14:59:47 i can send my /x11/smg_x11.[cpp/h] file if you guys want it.. its c++, basically has window opening, surface getting stuff in it (and window breating / colormap stuff too) Feb 10 15:00:10 dragorn: hmmm, like..localy ? Feb 10 15:00:11 *creating Feb 10 15:00:12 braddbr: would be interesting Feb 10 15:00:21 melmoth: no, but it was in one of the default repos in the sdk Feb 10 15:00:27 https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/trunk/libvo/vo_nokia770.c?root=mplayer&view=markup Feb 10 15:00:45 k, gimme a sec Feb 10 15:00:46 dragorn: apt-cache dont find it anymore here (chinook) Feb 10 15:00:50 braddbr, that sounds like a nice base Feb 10 15:01:14 melmoth: did for me, dunno what to tell you. I said "why the eff wasn't this in here already" and installed it, no real issues Feb 10 15:01:31 melmoth it's in the nokia binaries Feb 10 15:01:33 lard, ive been browsing that since yesterday i got device back and was wanting to get something together but damned tortoiseSVN keeps failing Feb 10 15:02:00 files should be in ~/maemo-sdk-nokia-binaries_4.0/ Feb 10 15:02:16 and sources.list should find them there Feb 10 15:02:33 lcuk: here's my first crack http://pastebin.ca/898687 Feb 10 15:02:38 ahhh, i think i....rmed this directory :) Feb 10 15:02:48 Any idea how to get it back easily ? Feb 10 15:02:52 that might do it :P Feb 10 15:03:09 melmoth, that's a mistake if you want to do anything with location on chinook... Feb 10 15:03:17 i just realised now. Feb 10 15:03:27 apt-cache seems annoyingly reticent to tell you what repo something comes from Feb 10 15:03:28 Will see if i got a backup copy Feb 10 15:03:44 otherwise i ll just... reinstall (or dont try to play with maemomapper :) ) Feb 10 15:03:52 check the SDK install instructions, it should be easy Feb 10 15:05:05 lardman, thanks :) i notice you gave up ont he omapfb.h ;) Feb 10 15:05:17 it took a bit of searching to get it included in mine Feb 10 15:05:30 lcuk: not sure I need it Feb 10 15:05:44 its got the direct refresh LCD call inside it Feb 10 15:05:44 lcuk: I removed everything I didn't think I needed Feb 10 15:05:53 lcuk: I'm doing that from the DSP Feb 10 15:06:02 anyone have a ftp site i can post the x11 stuff to? Feb 10 15:06:13 then its all good :) Feb 10 15:06:14 braddbr: is it a single file? Feb 10 15:06:20 braddbr: pastebin? Feb 10 15:06:40 well its the .h and the .cpp Feb 10 15:06:44 gimme a minute Feb 10 15:07:00 * lcuk gives braddbr as long as he needs :) Feb 10 15:07:32 * lcuk configures lardman.c Feb 10 15:08:33 lcuk: have to head out, let me know if it works or not (probably not :) ), I'll test it when I get back Feb 10 15:08:50 braddbr: I'll grab your files when I get back too Feb 10 15:08:56 ok Feb 10 15:08:59 bye Feb 10 15:09:01 alright, ill be playing around with it today Feb 10 15:09:06 thanks lard, cya later Feb 10 15:10:46 Ok, i think i got it http://repository.maemo.org/stable/chinook/maemo-sdk-nokia-binaries_4.0.sh :) Feb 10 15:14:13 braddbr, ive gotta make some dinner, but if you manage to get something up just let us know i will look in a few mins Feb 10 15:14:20 i will Feb 10 15:14:31 :) thx Feb 10 15:28:05 lardman|away, your example compiles and goes to black base screen after removing your /dev/dsptask/fbtest section. i added -lX11 to the library list to get it resolving :) Feb 10 15:31:06 well my code is too big to paste to pastbin but i made you's a simple window-opening pastebin http://pastebin.com/m29909750 Feb 10 15:32:31 my X stuff does work on my nokia, so let me know if you need more code snippets and i will be glad to paste Feb 10 15:37:58 (i havent learned how to integrate with hildon / gtk yet so don't ask me that :) ) Feb 10 15:40:03 is it possible to install Opera Mini on n800? Feb 10 15:41:17 thankx braddbr i have downloaded and will look once i stop being bugged by all family for bits of me Feb 10 15:41:23