**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Feb 17 02:59:57 2008 Feb 17 03:12:37 So i'm trying to get tor compiled for maemo. I'm a newbie to the scratchbox environement. Tor is failing to ./configure due to a lack of libevent. Feb 17 03:12:47 I've been unable to find a libevent package for the N800. Feb 17 03:19:34 genome4hire: add a debian source repository to your /etc/apt/sources.list then apt-get source libevent Feb 17 03:19:56 then go to the directory and dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b in that directory Feb 17 03:53:25 any idea why I can't insmod ext2.ko on OS 2008? Feb 17 03:53:41 it says "Unknown symbol in module (-1): No such file or directory" Feb 17 04:26:41 Ok. Things are better. I'm trying to create a .deb of tor for maemo. However, "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b " fails for tor (it worked just fine for libevent), because the tor debian package requires latex/gs and a bunch of other stuff for the documentation. Any advice on how to tell buildpackage to not build the docs, and just compile the tor stuff? Feb 17 04:30:50 elb: give the full path to the .ko Feb 17 04:30:57 iirc Feb 17 04:31:40 genome4hire: heh. welcome to porting to maemo Feb 17 04:32:24 the answer is dependent on the package you are building Feb 17 04:32:36 Ok. Let me try this another way. Feb 17 04:32:37 can't seem to get the soduku (tomiku) game working on the latest OS on an n-800.. sad. Feb 17 04:32:46 genome4hire: look in debian/rules Feb 17 04:32:50 the .deb i'm trying to build wants latex, which wants gs, which wants libpaper1. Feb 17 04:33:03 and libpaper1 fails to dpkg --configure, as i'm not root in the scratchbox. Feb 17 04:33:05 latex is a beast Feb 17 04:33:41 i'd look if you can disable the docs in tor's ./configure, then look in debian/rules and debian/control to remove dependencies Feb 17 04:33:48 you can also try to brute-force the build Feb 17 04:34:03 with dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b -d (-d will remove dependency check) Feb 17 04:34:20 sometimes the configure will go through without some dependencies Feb 17 04:35:04 there might be also the option to install tetex instead of lated (apt-cache search tetex) Feb 17 04:36:03 sssshhhhhhhhh: i hope you don't expect any assistance based-on that problem description Feb 17 04:36:29 was hoping to start a dialog, that's all. Feb 17 04:36:46 See if anyone else has run into the same issue? Feb 17 04:36:53 thanks pupnik Feb 17 04:37:22 sssshhhhhhhhh, don't look at me. I can't stand sudoku :) Feb 17 04:37:41 it's a good time waster :) Feb 17 04:38:03 every time I see a sudoku board I just want to write a solver for it and be done Feb 17 04:38:16 hahahaha. Feb 17 04:39:54 I just downloaded the developer's kit and got hello world working on it... Feb 17 04:40:22 so, I was going to try playing with the source code from tomiku... Feb 17 04:40:33 unless someone else had some ideas. Feb 17 04:44:36 cool beans sssshhhhhhhhh ... we need more ppl porting/fixing stuff :) Feb 17 04:45:37 yeah, I haven't done any porting to maemo yet... I wanna try, though. Feb 17 04:47:03 i think you'll find that if you stick with it for a couple of weeks, it becomes very fun, almost addictive :) Feb 17 04:47:48 really? cool.. any tips/tricks/things to start with? Feb 17 04:49:31 http://maemo.org/development/documentation/tutorials/maemo_4-0_tutorial.html this is a pretty complete intro Feb 17 04:49:53 but that's more than you probably want to read to start Feb 17 04:50:10 i think just starting with a game you want to build (like sudoku) is best Feb 17 04:54:06 I saw that and thought it was pretty large :) but looks interesting... Feb 17 04:54:07 thanks... Feb 17 04:56:41 pupnik, :P Feb 17 04:57:26 alright i think i have a scheme for left/right mouse clicks in dosbox Feb 17 04:57:32 oh? Feb 17 04:57:49 yeah problem is all stylus taps count as mouse clicks right now Feb 17 04:57:52 and there's no right click Feb 17 04:58:09 so i might be able to instead disable stylus mouse clicks Feb 17 04:58:32 and set the dpad enter key to be left mousedown, IF the stylus is also down Feb 17 04:58:41 and likewise set esc to be right mouse down Feb 17 04:59:09 in either case, if the stylus is down, then esc and enter won't be passed-on to the DOS program Feb 17 04:59:13 sound good? Feb 17 04:59:59 heh Feb 17 05:00:15 why not - and + instead? Feb 17 05:00:16 Ok. Feb 17 05:00:18 I got it building Feb 17 05:00:26 so now I need to switch from i386 to ARMEL Feb 17 05:00:32 as the build environment, right? Feb 17 05:00:33 genome4hire, :3 Feb 17 05:00:45 hacking that debian rules file was quite unpleasant Feb 17 05:00:59 i do everything in ARMEL target Feb 17 05:01:05 really? Feb 17 05:01:24 haven't found a reason to use the x86 yet Feb 17 05:08:41 Navi: i'm using those to adjust game speed, and they're a bit awkward to reach on the n810 Feb 17 05:08:55 mmk Feb 17 05:16:20 tor_0.1.2.19-1~~etch+1_armel.deb Feb 17 05:16:23 w00t Feb 17 05:35:50 congrats genome4hire ! :) Feb 17 05:36:21 After all that work, I found out that the fscking tor package is already in http://debfarm.free.fr/ Feb 17 05:36:26 sigh Feb 17 05:40:34 ok - I dunno what I'm doing, but I'm trying to recompile tomiku for chinook... it seems to be missing some dependencies... Feb 17 05:43:04 sssshhhhhhhhh: you can add repositories to /etc/apt/sources.list in scratchbox, then install the dependencies Feb 17 05:43:18 search http://gronmayer.com/it/ to see if your dependencies are available somewhere Feb 17 05:43:37 ahhh cool, okay, take a look at that. Feb 17 05:43:57 err.. I'll take a look at that. Feb 17 05:49:15 <_acyd_> since when does linksys have the source for their routers available? Feb 17 05:49:45 it's been a while Feb 17 05:50:06 but it's not exactly kept up to date Feb 17 05:50:10 if you know what I mean Feb 17 05:50:11 ;) Feb 17 05:54:49 <_acyd_> well the source for my router is the current version Feb 17 05:56:11 so i'm downloadng the source and the v23 source for ddwrt Feb 17 05:56:22 cool Feb 17 05:59:22 stupid crashing firefox Feb 17 06:07:33 There's always the forks of the linksys routers Feb 17 06:07:54 that's what ddwrt is :) Feb 17 06:08:15 and openwrt, not to mention several others Feb 17 06:11:27 ddwrt is my favorite so far Feb 17 06:11:41 i was looking at the selection, they didnt have the buffalo ones preloaded with ddwrt there Feb 17 06:11:51 but they did have the netgear opensource ones Feb 17 06:12:14 * johnx loves his openwrt install w/ webif2 Feb 17 06:12:39 what's webif2 Feb 17 06:13:37 a different/more complete web based control panel Feb 17 06:14:16 johnx does it work on the wrt160n? Feb 17 06:14:35 I have no idea Feb 17 06:14:52 I just have a plain vanilla wrt54g Feb 17 06:14:53 i guess i'll check that later Feb 17 06:15:00 thats what i had Feb 17 06:15:11 but a friends wrt crapped out on her so i decided it's time to upgrade and donate Feb 17 06:15:26 acydlord, x-wrt.org is where to look for info Feb 17 06:15:33 thx Feb 17 06:16:02 Hi Feb 17 06:16:11 hey, Hrw|tablet Feb 17 06:16:21 acydlord, I used to have a 32MB wrt54gs but I ended up giving that to my parents, then not finding another GS capable of running Linux... Feb 17 06:16:38 i think mine is the gl Feb 17 06:16:46 32mb ram not flash? Feb 17 06:17:05 i had to do a mini and then full firmware Feb 17 06:17:06 Hrw|tablet, the older GS was 32MB RAM, 8MB flash, IIRC Feb 17 06:17:07 I use gs 8/32 flash/mem Feb 17 06:17:30 One of first models v1.1 Feb 17 06:17:46 I miss mine :( Feb 17 06:18:21 I am thinking of replacing it with more powerful hw Feb 17 06:18:56 you need more guts for routing or for doing other stuff? Feb 17 06:19:08 Other Feb 17 06:19:15 File server Feb 17 06:19:22 aah...I could see that Feb 17 06:21:14 Printserver would be nice too, but i use scanner from my printer from time to time Feb 17 06:21:40 And wrt lack Gb ethernet Feb 17 06:22:18 Hrw|tablet, I broke down and just got a gigabit switch Feb 17 06:22:20 Ircing from os2008 IM is even quite usable Feb 17 06:22:39 I lack power connectors Feb 17 06:22:50 For switch use Feb 17 06:23:00 ah...I'm running out of outlets here too Feb 17 06:23:23 I have only 12 under desk Feb 17 06:23:32 only have like 36 in my room Feb 17 06:23:41 i almost bought another 24 socket strip today Feb 17 06:24:09 O fsck Feb 17 06:24:16 ?! Feb 17 07:25:05 Does anyone know if there are patches floating around for the Xomap rotation support? Feb 17 07:39:38 Can I change a font of GtkButton? Feb 17 08:21:59 good morning Feb 17 09:50:22 hey all Feb 17 09:50:27 why can't I install skype Feb 17 09:50:34 it says it can't install libhildonfm2 Feb 17 09:50:42 well i think the roblem is it can't upgrade it Feb 17 09:50:47 it wants version 49 Feb 17 09:50:49 and i have 46 Feb 17 09:50:58 but 49 doesnt' appear in my list anywhere Feb 17 09:51:09 anyone have a sources file i can use as a reference Feb 17 09:51:13 this is really nnoying Feb 17 09:53:21 any ideas? Feb 17 10:00:17 some times i wish Compile and friends would set of the system bell when it prompts for sudo password... Feb 17 10:02:31 oops... Feb 17 10:02:58 memo to self, check your channel before hitting enter :P Feb 17 10:21:23 cbx33, You probably have an older OS version Feb 17 10:22:01 cbx33, check settings->control panel ->about product Feb 17 10:22:18 should be version 2.2007.50-2 Feb 17 10:40:30 yeh i think i do Feb 17 10:40:33 flashing up now Feb 17 10:48:31 To flash the bootloader, you have to supply the X-Loader image Feb 17 10:48:36 what the heck does that mean Feb 17 10:50:13 that you're trying to flash with a fiasco that is missing a compatible version of a required part, usually Feb 17 11:11:28 sp3000 Feb 17 11:11:30 i have an n810 Feb 17 11:11:35 and i just downloaded the latest software Feb 17 11:11:38 but it won't flash Feb 17 11:12:16 which latest software? Feb 17 11:12:34 RX-44_2008SE_2.2007.50-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin Feb 17 11:13:14 oh man, new software? Feb 17 11:13:18 * doc|home didn't know that :/ Feb 17 11:13:27 I just had mine all set up as I like it :| Feb 17 11:13:48 mine wouldn't install skype and a reflash was coming upany way Feb 17 11:14:20 how does your flasher commad line look? Feb 17 11:14:59 emacs22 on n810: http://tinyurl.com/3d65ww Feb 17 11:15:38 ./flasher-3.0 -F RX-44 -f -R Feb 17 11:15:49 where RX-44 = the file mentioned above Feb 17 11:16:37 sp3000, is that wrong? Feb 17 11:17:15 that looks ok, but it's not a direct copy so I don't expect it to have the errors of he original, if any :) Feb 17 11:17:51 ok Feb 17 11:17:53 lemme get it Feb 17 11:18:02 sudo ./flasher-3.0 -F RX-34_2008SE_2.2007.50-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin -f -R Feb 17 11:21:31 "RX-34" Feb 17 11:21:42 != 44 Feb 17 11:21:46 oh Feb 17 11:22:23 HAHAHAHA Feb 17 11:23:52 sp3000, now i do feel stoopid Feb 17 11:24:05 it happens Feb 17 11:24:15 i guess Feb 17 11:24:22 everything else seemed ok Feb 17 11:24:27 i didn't check the beginning Feb 17 11:25:05 man it seems so slow flashing now Feb 17 11:25:11 i think for some reason it's using usb 1 Feb 17 11:25:15 it used to use usb 2 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Feb 17 11:45:51 2008 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Feb 17 11:46:14 2008 Feb 17 11:48:13 grrr......trying to update nokia package lists.... Feb 17 11:48:29 it's really slow downoading.... anyone know y? Feb 17 11:49:04 How to I change a font of Gtk widget? Feb 17 11:49:43 like bits/sec Feb 17 11:49:51 not kb/sec Feb 17 11:50:37 whats the command line syntax to uninstall a cold and sore throat from a human? Feb 17 11:51:01 <|thunder> does firefox for meamo support flash 9 ? Feb 17 11:53:22 cbx33, the host box might have downgraded itself - we saw it on windows where after one software update (webcam driver) made all ports old slow usb Feb 17 11:53:56 ahh Feb 17 11:54:22 you can mainly tell when you plug in a usb2 memory stick - windows tells you it can run faster Feb 17 11:54:33 but the chances are on here youre not using win.. Feb 17 11:54:45 true Feb 17 11:54:50 ;P Feb 17 11:55:01 <|thunder> who here has metaspliot and aircrack up and running ? Feb 17 11:55:22 <|thunder> also, anyone know of any bluetooth securtiy auditing software that works on nokia n800 ? Feb 17 11:56:09 the people who made bllover have something Feb 17 12:03:25 man what is up wih this.... Feb 17 12:03:38 downloading 1Kb for the last 5 mins Feb 17 12:06:50 cbx33, would you like me to type the binary to you (might be faster) Feb 17 12:07:07 110100101101110110101101101101000101000101010101001010111101010111010101010101011001 Feb 17 12:07:09 heheh Feb 17 12:24:04 what is the maemo details for application manager? Feb 17 12:30:49 this link slow for anyone else http://maemo.org/downloads/product/raw/OS2008/maemo-mapper/?get_installfile Feb 17 12:32:01 nokia seems to have some problems with the internet provider.. Feb 17 12:32:03 is maemo.org broken? Feb 17 12:32:07 grrrr Feb 17 12:32:10 not again Feb 17 12:32:12 hehe Feb 17 12:32:18 many nokia sites seem not to work.. Feb 17 12:32:25 yeh Feb 17 12:32:28 so i see Feb 17 12:32:33 just the day i decided to try update n93 software.. Feb 17 12:32:39 yup Feb 17 12:32:42 me too Feb 17 12:32:46 with my n810 Feb 17 12:34:30 grrrr Feb 17 12:37:53 Hey, anyone tried gtkmozembed? Feb 17 12:38:14 I'm checking out the python bindings and wondering if anyone has ported those to the platform Feb 17 12:38:16 http://www.pygtk.org/pygtkmozembed/class-gtkmozembed.html Feb 17 12:38:40 Seems to be a really nice way to add some really cool stuff to some applications Feb 17 12:39:23 Seems like the library is on the device: https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/mozilla/trunk/microb-engine/microb-engine/debian/control?root=browser&rev=978&view=markup Feb 17 12:39:38 (microb-gtkmozembed) Feb 17 12:41:43 anyway, should anyone know about that stuff, please contact me! Feb 17 13:19:28 hi, I have created a simple speeddial page for microb, just in case anyone is interested: http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=143556#post143556 Feb 17 14:10:43 argh busybox is crippledzor Feb 17 14:10:56 first=`echo ${drives:0:1}` won't work Feb 17 14:22:34 pupnik_: I've got some Fn keys not working on dosbox Feb 17 14:23:16 what language keyboard? Feb 17 14:23:39 <__marker> first=${drives:0:1} ? Feb 17 14:24:34 italian Feb 17 14:24:44 on 810 Feb 17 14:24:53 yeah that would make sense __marker .. but busybox shell doesn't like that either Feb 17 14:25:07 maddler: try in DOSbox typing: keyb it Feb 17 14:25:41 maddler: i think we will need to customize the dosbox mapper for every language :/ Feb 17 14:26:30 doh... Feb 17 14:26:44 lemme try Feb 17 14:27:10 __marker: the {} works in real bash, btw Feb 17 14:27:35 i need to increment a variable in busybox in a loop A,B,C,D,E Feb 17 14:28:50 pupnik_: for drive in A B C D E; do ...; done ? Feb 17 14:29:43 yeah but i need to iterate through a certain number of elements Feb 17 14:29:57 for item in $mylist Feb 17 14:30:19 variable number Feb 17 14:30:20 <__marker> first=`echo $drives| sed 's/^$.$.*/\1/'` Feb 17 14:30:42 <__marker> took me a minute to type this on a n800 Feb 17 14:31:07 <__marker> +` Feb 17 14:31:07 __marker: Error: "`" is not a valid command. Feb 17 14:31:25 ` will execute Feb 17 14:32:28 that sed command works __marker - for the first letter Feb 17 14:32:57 how to get the nth letter? Feb 17 14:35:09 echo $foo | cut -c $i Feb 17 14:35:51 yaay busybox has cut :) Feb 17 14:35:54 thank youuu Feb 17 14:40:18 pupnik_: no way... Feb 17 14:40:35 but now i can't increment $i Feb 17 14:41:21 pupnik_: and also using keyb it some keys are not where they are supposed to be... :) Feb 17 14:41:29 right Feb 17 14:41:53 * Tobotras cries. No @#$ing idea where to find EContact's phone number :~( Feb 17 14:43:15 <__marker> i=$(( i+1)) Feb 17 14:43:17 i=$(expr $i + 1) ? Feb 17 14:43:52 i=$[i+1] didn't work - trying those Feb 17 14:45:26 __marker wins! Feb 17 14:46:39 __marker's way should be faster too. I just never learned to use $(( ). btw is that bashism or does it also work with sh? Feb 17 14:46:54 busybox didn't like the expr Feb 17 14:47:27 weird. expr seems to work just fine on os2008. Feb 17 14:52:54 <__marker> i think this is posix (it works with dash at least) Feb 17 14:53:21 thanks much, now dosbox install finds and automounts DOS directories on mmc Feb 17 14:54:30 ah, silly me. I should've tried that myself. Feb 17 15:10:53 maddler: if you make a keymapper (mapper.txt) for italian keyboards, i will include it in dosbox for nokia Feb 17 15:21:47 Anybody knows how to access contacts? EContact & co? Feb 17 15:28:23 Okay, are system apps available in source? osso-addressbook? Feb 17 15:31:55 sorry Tobotras don't know Feb 17 15:34:45 <__marker> should exist since it is in repo 'free' but apt-get source doesnt find it Feb 17 15:38:20 __marker, osso-addressbook is in the local nokia binary repo Feb 17 15:38:54 so closed source AFAICT Feb 17 15:39:33 there's a howto, though Feb 17 15:39:34 damn Feb 17 15:40:11 <__marker> repository.maemo.org chinook free Feb 17 15:40:16 jku: on reading the data? There is no, or at least I didn't find. The one available is on connecting and showing data using ready to use libs Feb 17 15:40:55 Tobotras, haven't used it, so you're probably right Feb 17 15:42:47 __marker: where exactly do you see that? If I do a "apt-cache policy osso-addressbook" I see "file: chinook/explicit" Feb 17 15:43:55 Tobotras, what do you want to do, btw? Feb 17 15:44:11 <__marker> same cmd on the n800 os2008 Feb 17 15:44:30 jku: read addressbook entries. Making contact viewer which I'll be able to use :) Feb 17 15:45:42 Tobotras, Don't need addressbook for that, I believe, just use EDS (package libebook, maybe, not sure) Feb 17 15:46:32 jku: yep, using it. Trying to figure out how does it stores phones. Feb 17 15:46:47 jku: hence looking for any application doing the same... Feb 17 15:47:39 not sure of Pimlico Dates does that, might be worth a look Feb 17 15:49:38 jku: thanks Feb 17 15:51:26 __marker, do't know where the problem is but the chinook free repo does not have osso-addressbook: http://repository.maemo.org/pool/chinook/free/o/ Feb 17 15:52:27 <__marker> yeah i'm lost Feb 17 15:52:48 <__marker> and a reinstall does work Feb 17 16:01:21 jku: thanks, found it in Pimlico Contacts :) Feb 17 16:04:47 yeah, Contacts of course, not Dates. np. Feb 17 16:09:53 <__marker> jku: repository.maemo.org/rtcomm Feb 17 16:10:54 <__marker> but no src.. Feb 17 16:44:28 thx again for the help __marker. i'd appreciate hearing from anyone with OS2007 to see if dosbox installs on it http://pupnik.de/dosbox.html Feb 17 16:45:49 <__marker> welcome. thx for your contributions Feb 17 16:51:39 jku: are you sure osso-addressbook is open source? Feb 17 16:52:02 backend is open source (EDS), but it is often the case that the UI is closed Feb 17 16:56:28 <__marker> konttori> jku said it's closed src, even if it is in the 'free' directry. anyway, how to know as theres no attached license? Feb 17 17:02:50 where is it in the free dir? Feb 17 17:03:41 __marker: Interesting if the source is available from somewhere Feb 17 17:03:47 <__marker> repository.maemo.org/rtcomm/... Feb 17 17:04:45 also the source? Feb 17 17:05:04 <__marker> konttori> i think you can forget about the src Feb 17 17:05:28 Indeed. I would have expected to not to find them out there Feb 17 17:06:04 maybe it would be easier to make a list of things we *do* have source for, than things we *don't* have source for... Feb 17 17:06:20 Indeed, it would be a good thing to have Feb 17 17:06:34 OTOH: The list of things of source is much longer Feb 17 17:06:35 <__marker> make a s Feb 17 17:06:49 as most of the non-visible stuff is open source Feb 17 17:06:50 I think the licenses get caught by docpurge on the tablets... Feb 17 17:07:07 but most of the visible stuff seems closed Feb 17 17:07:10 <__marker> make a script that greps in /var/lib Feb 17 17:07:26 yeah. Which makes sense, as nokia is protecting its assets that way Feb 17 17:07:38 yes. it's just disappointing Feb 17 17:07:44 I'm not sure if it couldn't be done in other ways as well, but that surely seems to be one way to do it Feb 17 17:08:25 <__marker> and docpurge did Not remove the license in /usr/share/doc it is not included at all. and then its free :) Feb 17 17:08:49 __marker, heh :P Feb 17 17:09:09 <__marker> ok gonna do this script Feb 17 17:10:24 Hey, is anyone in here who is interested in themes? Feb 17 17:10:42 I am Feb 17 17:10:57 I'm just about to release the version of theme maker that uses the official templates instead of the previous partial ones Feb 17 17:11:07 very cool Feb 17 17:11:29 What platform do you use (xp / osx/linux)? Feb 17 17:11:40 I can make a test package for you now. Feb 17 17:11:46 linux Feb 17 17:11:53 debian/ubuntu specifically Feb 17 17:14:37 ok. Well, I'm packaging the osx version in there anyway. Cause I use that myself. Feb 17 17:15:21 sure, anything's fine for testing. even tar.gz is ok with me :) Feb 17 17:16:37 Do you have java installed / have you used thememaker before? Feb 17 17:16:47 I can get java easily Feb 17 17:16:54 ok, get sun java Feb 17 17:16:54 (I might even have it...) Feb 17 17:17:17 java is surprisingly nice considering how well java apps work across platforms Feb 17 17:17:33 oh, I already have it :) Feb 17 17:17:37 I would love if python was also (along with some common toolkit) available cross platforms Feb 17 17:17:42 I do wonder what dragged it in already... Feb 17 17:18:05 Ok, I'm now sanity checking it before I upload the package to garage. Feb 17 17:18:50 Seems like it's capable of creating theme with the default settings... now Just need to test that theme... Feb 17 17:19:02 great, now my n810 won't boot Feb 17 17:19:06 this is not my week for computers Feb 17 17:19:16 just give it a bit of a whack Feb 17 17:19:20 ;) Feb 17 17:19:27 (ok, maybe not) Feb 17 17:19:41 Is the device completely failing to even start to boot? Feb 17 17:20:00 yes, if it's plugged in; no, if it's not Feb 17 17:20:02 If so, remove the battery for a few mins, attach it and try again (worked for me previously) Feb 17 17:20:07 elb, if you can't figure any way to make it turn on, try pulling power and battery for >3 minutes Feb 17 17:20:31 if it's not plugged in, it starts to boot, the progress bar comes up, and when it fills the screen it just sits there forever Feb 17 17:20:51 ah Feb 17 17:20:57 do you have ssh server installed? Feb 17 17:21:08 I do Feb 17 17:21:23 is it getting on the wireless? Feb 17 17:21:56 looks like no, according to the dhcp server Feb 17 17:23:06 Ahh.. so, theme maker 1.1.1 downloadable from here: https://garage.maemo.org/frs/download.php/3404/ThemeMaker1.1.1.zip Feb 17 17:23:20 It includes default template for plankton. Feb 17 17:23:44 And I just tested creating the default theme from it and worked just great. Feb 17 17:23:49 hmm...If you need to get data off of it, I think I remember someone flashing *just* a modified initfs that got it to bring up usb networking and a telnet server Feb 17 17:24:12 well, I keep all of my data on mmc2 Feb 17 17:24:14 so that should be fine Feb 17 17:24:21 Did you do backup? Feb 17 17:24:27 relatively recently, yeah Feb 17 17:24:41 I think I am going to have to reflash it Feb 17 17:24:47 Backup is really reliable these days. Has saved my ass many times Feb 17 17:25:03 Kudos to people who made it! Feb 17 17:25:13 it doesn't make me happy that I have to re-flash it at all, though Feb 17 17:25:36 what did you when it crashed and burned? Feb 17 17:25:52 I got up this morning and it was powered off Feb 17 17:25:58 I suspect its battery died in the night Feb 17 17:26:26 konttori, seems to run fine. even came with a free __MACOSX folder :) Feb 17 17:26:56 Wohoo! Extra folder! Damn. Give it back to me! Feb 17 17:26:56 what is the licensing on the the plankton theme template? Feb 17 17:27:15 I'm checking. ... Feb 17 17:27:22 gpl if I remember correctly Feb 17 17:28:16 Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 Feb 17 17:28:42 Hmm... Do I need to separate it from the theme maker zip? Feb 17 17:29:01 so, to make a theme that I could GPL I'd have to make sure I remove all traces of the original template pictures? Feb 17 17:29:10 Probably not, but I'll include the copyright notices there. Feb 17 17:29:26 Yeah, that should do the trick. Feb 17 17:29:53 although, I quite think the CC is a better license for it anyway Feb 17 17:29:58 https://stage.maemo.org/svn/maemo/projects/haf/trunk/hildon-theme-plankton/COPYING Feb 17 17:30:17 Out of curiosity, I know the pkg-maemo guys working on maemo packages for debian had run into some kind of licensing issue with CC 2.5 and maemo themes Feb 17 17:30:47 I don't pretend to understand the legal situation but I think they can't really package CC 2.5 themes unless the license is changed to CC 3.0 or something Feb 17 17:30:52 * johnx shrugs Feb 17 17:31:17 Well, plankton is made by Tuomas Kuosmanen, who works for nokia. Feb 17 17:31:25 So, I don't see how that could be an issue Feb 17 17:32:09 I'll try to talk to him about it next time I see him Feb 17 17:33:19 johnx: were you able to create the theme out as well? Feb 17 17:33:28 As in, get the debian to the dir. Feb 17 17:33:36 just feed it the defaults and hit build theme? Feb 17 17:33:41 yeah Feb 17 17:33:55 that should do it Feb 17 17:34:07 defaults should also be automatically the right ones Feb 17 17:34:08 * Tobotras feels idiotic. g_signal_connect registers callback with user-data, callback gets different user-data when called. Feb 17 17:34:43 it seems to want to look for the background and source image in my $HOME by default rather than ./ Feb 17 17:35:12 also, there's nothing in the layout drop-down... Feb 17 17:36:06 Hi Feb 17 17:36:22 konttori, ah nevermind Feb 17 17:36:25 it depends on how I run it Feb 17 17:36:26 Ah. Ok, well, can you copy the layouts folder to home Feb 17 17:36:40 Ok. Can you give instructions on how to run it 'right'? Feb 17 17:37:09 I'm assuming it works the same way as windows and osg work (as in run in the folder it was executed in) Feb 17 17:37:10 cd ThemeMaker1.1.1 && java -jar MaemoThemeMaker.jar Feb 17 17:37:24 odd... but thanks Feb 17 17:37:44 if I double click the .jar in nautilus it runs but maybe the cwd isn't set correctly? Feb 17 17:39:06 Finally made Polish layout for n810HW keyboard Feb 17 17:39:08 Sounds odd anyway. On osx and windows jars are executed in the folder you doubleclick on. Feb 17 17:39:34 johnx: but now that you were able to run it in correct folder, were you able to create the theme? Feb 17 17:39:35 it works if run from the command line in the ThemeMaker1.1.1 directory Feb 17 17:39:42 built the default theme no problem Feb 17 17:39:51 ah. cool. Feb 17 17:40:19 anyways, I should actually catch some sleep Feb 17 17:40:23 really late here O_o Feb 17 17:41:10 I'll poke around theme maker in the next couple days, and tell you if anything doesn't work. thanks for creating it, BTW :) Feb 17 17:41:13 'night all Feb 17 17:42:20 Hi ph5 Feb 17 17:42:20 night! Feb 17 17:42:29 Su johnx Feb 17 17:42:36 hi Hrw|tablet Feb 17 17:44:45 ssh root@me sudo apt-get remove cold flu Feb 17 17:45:26 can some1 tell me why that doesnt work? ^ Feb 17 17:46:00 lcuk_3: because virus writers most often don't package their work properly. Feb 17 17:48:49 damn, thats probably the closest to a real answer i can expect Feb 17 17:50:02 lcuk_3, maybe you should reflash, just to be sure? Feb 17 17:53:13 already tried that, its taken me the last 10 years to rebuild my app list Feb 17 17:53:40 yeah source based distros suck that way :) Feb 17 17:54:11 slow cpu :( Feb 17 18:52:32 * Tobotras finished his first "hello, world". Took almost two working days :( Feb 17 18:54:55