**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Mar 06 10:59:56 2008 Mar 06 11:01:43 btw. it could be also meaningfull to do battery rundown test Mar 06 11:02:03 comparing 400 and 330 modes Mar 06 11:03:52 KotCzarny: battery seems to have three modes, full, very low and empty :) Mar 06 11:04:31 solmumaha: i'm yet to discover it's behaviour :) Mar 06 11:04:37 i hate it when it drops down from almost full to low battery warnings Mar 06 11:05:23 solmumaha: you may like my batt tool then Mar 06 11:05:31 when it became ready :) Mar 06 11:06:13 becomes? Mar 06 11:06:15 :) Mar 06 11:09:26 i so do not enjoy building dependencies that take > 10 minutes to compile, then break, then recompile, then break, then recompile Mar 06 11:09:39 :) Mar 06 11:09:47 what are you building? Mar 06 11:10:06 libboost (libboost-signals) Mar 06 11:10:42 http://repository.nrcc.noklab.com/dists/bora/extras/binary-armel/ there are some here but they're broken afaict Mar 06 11:12:00 looks python related Mar 06 11:16:09 http://www.techamok.com/?pid=4185 Mar 06 11:16:10 lol Mar 06 11:18:13 http://www.techamok.com/?pid=4184 Mar 06 11:18:18 this one is good too ;) Mar 06 11:22:02 * b0unc3 good morning Mar 06 11:24:55 KotCzarny: did you try an evil 400/266 overclock? Mar 06 11:25:03 nope Mar 06 11:25:14 probably wise :) Mar 06 11:25:15 i guess it will eat through battery ;) Mar 06 11:25:52 how i see my ip? no ifconfig in os2008 Mar 06 11:26:09 hahlo: /sbin/ifconfig Mar 06 11:26:28 pupnik: XSP is not related to DSP and never was Mar 06 11:26:49 oh ok Mar 06 11:27:00 well, at least pixel doubling feature Mar 06 11:28:14 KotCzarny: thanks, so used to ubuntu that forgot it is in root path Mar 06 11:28:25 ssvb: any news about mplayer using dsp directly? Mar 06 11:28:41 a minor correction, XSP had some functions to synchronize access of xserver and DSP to framebuffer that were used on 770 Mar 06 11:29:24 KotCzarny: I doubt that it makes any sense on N8x0, as DSP got slower Mar 06 11:29:39 KotCzarny: Nokia 770 had DSP running at 252MHz Mar 06 11:29:45 but for mp3/pcm ? Mar 06 11:31:06 it would sidestep dependancy on esd/gst/alsa/oss too ;) Mar 06 11:31:57 KotCzarny: lardman researched using DSP for audio decoding, it is better to ask him Mar 06 11:32:12 never seen him online Mar 06 11:32:32 KotCzarny: I only developed a wrapper around gstreamer to utilize mp3 decoder back in Nokia 770 days Mar 06 11:33:12 KotCzarny: as you tested yourself, it probably could be used on N8x0 as well, but there are a number of issues Mar 06 11:33:39 yes, that's why it could be interesting to eliminate middle-mans Mar 06 11:33:44 fe esd/gst Mar 06 11:45:22 // DSP sinks do not need syncing Mar 06 11:45:23 hehe Mar 06 12:08:39 i guess ssvb know it but anyway for the linkings: http://people.bath.ac.uk/enpsgp/nokia770/ Mar 06 12:08:40 :) Mar 06 12:08:53 *knows **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Mar 06 12:37:06 2008 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Mar 06 12:37:35 2008 Mar 06 12:56:02 -rwxr-xr-x 1 29999 29999 2717866 2006-06-06 02:56 Discovery.avi Mar 06 12:56:09 who was looking for it? Mar 06 12:56:24 febb was Mar 06 12:56:27 not hear now I guess Mar 06 12:56:35 oh, well Mar 06 12:56:44 anyway, i have found it Mar 06 12:56:46 :) Mar 06 12:56:58 did you extract it from rootfs.jffs2? Mar 06 12:57:18 someone converted jffs2 to tar.ga Mar 06 12:57:21 tar.gzz Mar 06 12:57:23 grr Mar 06 12:57:24 :) Mar 06 12:57:24 ah Mar 06 12:57:49 I couldn't get my kernel to allocate a whole 128MB of space for the mtdram module O_o Mar 06 12:58:26 has anyone had success networking through bluetooth on the 800? Mar 06 12:59:01 it depends on what you're networking to, but there is apparently a nice GUI for bluetooth PAN support now Mar 06 12:59:47 all of the docs I could find were on the 770, the commands dont even exist on the 800 Mar 06 13:00:24 networking through a windows box Mar 06 13:00:33 can anyone tell me which media player works with maemoscrobbler? Mar 06 13:00:50 windows, pffft Mar 06 13:00:53 plb, xmms at least and also vagalume of course :) Mar 06 13:01:09 MaemoIrv, search for bluetooth pan on internettablettalk.com/forums Mar 06 13:01:20 johnx: isn't vagalume just a last.fm client though for playing streams from last.fm? Mar 06 13:01:21 their search is kind of a pain, but the info is there I think Mar 06 13:01:27 yeah Mar 06 13:02:03 xmms is like the player that refuses to die lol Mar 06 13:02:15 debian finally dropped it Mar 06 13:02:22 did they? Mar 06 13:02:30 cool thank you sir Mar 06 13:02:41 hmm Mar 06 13:02:44 i don't know Mar 06 13:02:47 * plb can't wait for lenny in september Mar 06 13:02:48 it still depends on gtk1 and it had tons of unpatched vulnerabilities and no one was working on it... Mar 06 13:02:49 but alsa works on my os Mar 06 13:02:53 using pcm task Mar 06 13:02:55 :) Mar 06 13:03:16 KotCzarny, did you get slack on that thing while I was gone? O_o Mar 06 13:03:22 nope Mar 06 13:03:29 i just created /etc/asound.conf Mar 06 13:03:30 ;) Mar 06 13:03:46 i was using for a mp3task anyway Mar 06 13:04:05 but was curious if i can get alsa to work when i saw it Mar 06 13:04:06 :) Mar 06 13:04:08 man I wish n800 had amarok =P Mar 06 13:04:17 plb: compile it? :) Mar 06 13:04:25 lol that would be fun Mar 06 13:04:44 I mostly just use moc though Mar 06 13:04:51 i use mplayer Mar 06 13:04:52 :) Mar 06 13:04:58 penguinbait got kde on the tablet...maybe he got amarok Mar 06 13:05:00 and my ncurses frontend Mar 06 13:05:12 KotCzarny, so you just mean you got alsa working on OS2008...where it already worked? Mar 06 13:05:23 :> Mar 06 13:05:28 did it? Mar 06 13:05:29 aaah Mar 06 13:05:34 it was missing devices Mar 06 13:05:35 mplayer used it Mar 06 13:06:06 ah, sorry Mar 06 13:06:08 you're right Mar 06 13:06:09 :> Mar 06 13:06:14 no problem :D Mar 06 13:06:19 you got my hopes up Mar 06 13:06:30 I thought I might not have to dig into that to get it working in Debian Mar 06 13:06:32 i just remember someone having problem with alsa Mar 06 13:06:58 the default media player isn't bad but it doesn't support scrobbling afaik =[ Mar 06 13:07:29 i wonder how well mplayer fares with alsa as -ao Mar 06 13:07:40 badly I think in OS2008 Mar 06 13:07:45 that's why it's not used Mar 06 13:07:47 huh? Mar 06 13:08:02 well, alsa was used in OS2007 for mplayer Mar 06 13:08:03 i was testing it with mplayer Mar 06 13:08:11 seems to work fine Mar 06 13:08:15 then they ran into weird sound sync stuff or something Mar 06 13:08:19 ah. Mar 06 13:08:27 there's a whole thread Mar 06 13:08:31 i will test it after i complete rundown test Mar 06 13:08:32 :) Mar 06 13:08:51 you don't have to do any crazy conversions to watch say xvid movie on a n800 do you Mar 06 13:08:55 ? Mar 06 13:08:59 plb: nope Mar 06 13:09:02 :) Mar 06 13:09:03 great Mar 06 13:09:10 but i have a patches kernel Mar 06 13:09:14 pathed Mar 06 13:09:17 patched grr Mar 06 13:09:20 it depends on the resolution of course Mar 06 13:09:38 KotCzarny, just the rotation patch? or did you apply other stuff? Mar 06 13:09:38 worked quite well on 720x448 ;) Mar 06 13:09:53 johnx: not yet, but i have compiled everything all right Mar 06 13:10:37 yay I have 6gb of memory on my n800 now...I stole my 2gb micro sd card out of my mobile phone ;] Mar 06 13:10:52 johnx: not only resolution, but encoding settings do matter, divx/xvid videos encoded with 'gmc' and 'qpel' options enabled will be very slow Mar 06 13:10:59 plb: remember that any additional sd card uses battery :) Mar 06 13:11:09 ssvb, I'll keep that in mind Mar 06 13:11:31 ssvb, does that go for mplayer as well, or just media player? Mar 06 13:11:45 KotCzarny: how much battery? Mar 06 13:11:58 plb: noticeable Mar 06 13:12:15 i'm still in the rundown test :) Mar 06 13:12:27 johnx: media player does not support these advanced encoding options at all :) Mar 06 13:12:30 ah Mar 06 13:12:32 aaah Mar 06 13:12:32 brb Mar 06 13:12:34 nice Mar 06 13:12:44 how it will look like then? Mar 06 13:12:51 or it won't play at all? Mar 06 13:13:24 johnx: it only supports MPEG4 SP and not ASP, it will report it as unsupported codec Mar 06 13:14:12 I just used tablet-encode and didn't worry about it...but honestly I never really got into watching videos on the go Mar 06 13:14:29 something about it just seemed weird...but ebooks, now that's different :) Mar 06 13:15:40 :) Mar 06 13:15:48 johnx: you can find some video samples on the internet encoded by guys who enable all the codec options they could find :) Mar 06 13:16:17 oh yeah...the gentoo users of video encoding... Mar 06 13:16:23 :) Mar 06 13:16:30 no offense meant to gentoo users :P Mar 06 13:16:33 :> Mar 06 13:16:43 johnx: I'm a gentoo user Mar 06 13:16:52 why there's no alsa-utils package? Mar 06 13:17:46 well, there are gentoo users and then there are gentoo users who spend more times setting USE flags than using their computer... Mar 06 13:17:56 KotCzarny, because no one compiled it yet? Mar 06 13:18:02 compiles fine Mar 06 13:18:04 i guess Mar 06 13:18:21 well, then there is an alsa-utils package :) Mar 06 13:18:43 dpkg -l |grep alsa shows nothing Mar 06 13:18:43 :) Mar 06 13:18:58 E: Couldn't find package alsa-utils Mar 06 13:19:03 apt-get fails too :) Mar 06 13:19:24 how can you tell that it compiles fine unless you compile it? (at which point there will be a package) Mar 06 13:19:31 yep, i did Mar 06 13:19:38 and seems to run fine too Mar 06 13:20:10 whopping 1 playback control, but it's alright for me :) Mar 06 13:20:36 KotCzarny: are you experimenting with another alternative layer over DSP pcm tasks? ;) Mar 06 13:20:43 ;) Mar 06 13:20:52 everything before c coding Mar 06 13:22:04 alsa-oss could be usefull too Mar 06 13:23:47 is wget installed by default? Can I safely add it as a dependency for my app? Mar 06 13:23:51 nope Mar 06 13:24:06 KotCzarny: do you know where I would find it? Mar 06 13:24:19 KotCzarny: actually, apologies, I'll search Mar 06 13:24:31 extras I think Mar 06 13:24:37 normally I would tell 'in repository' but this is #maemo so rather 'no idea where' Mar 06 13:24:53 in this case it's actually in extras I think Mar 06 13:24:59 terrifying isn't it? :) Mar 06 13:25:11 spakman: but keep in mind extras aren't enabled by default Mar 06 13:25:24 a .install can enable it, right? Mar 06 13:25:26 though if your app will be in extras too then it's not a problem Mar 06 13:25:27 i think Mar 06 13:25:28 johnx: my opinion on maemo repositor(y|ies) situation is known ;D Mar 06 13:25:28 :) Mar 06 13:25:39 hrw, it is known very well :) Mar 06 13:26:04 I don't think any of us has ever said "the more repositories the better" Mar 06 13:26:34 wow Mar 06 13:26:41 my 810 got a gps fix.. after 29 hours Mar 06 13:26:47 O_o Mar 06 13:26:49 ahahaha Mar 06 13:26:49 :> Mar 06 13:26:57 its indoors under a metal roof tho Mar 06 13:26:58 now, you need a bigger antenna Mar 06 13:27:05 * johnx laughs, coughs Mar 06 13:27:11 it's like 1-2 minutes in car Mar 06 13:27:23 couldnt get one in a moving car in 15 mins before Mar 06 13:27:28 20 minutes in my last in-car test (behind window) Mar 06 13:27:33 5 satellites tho Mar 06 13:27:50 mine saw 12 sats a few mins ago Mar 06 13:27:53 I just tried it today on my way to work Mar 06 13:27:58 thanks all. I'm hosting my own repository since other dependencies aren't in extras. Is there any particular advantage of either of: 1. enable extras in the .install 2. mirror the wget deb myself? Mar 06 13:28:06 and i was just cursing on another channel that my 810 has never gotten a fix Mar 06 13:28:23 was trying to get it to watchdog reboot and had it logging some stuff :) Mar 06 13:28:47 mine is able to see 11 sats - if I am walking or not moving Mar 06 13:28:52 and not at home of course Mar 06 13:29:11 no idea how it got 12 under a metal roof indoors.. and how it took so long Mar 06 13:29:14 Spakman, If you can enable extras in the install I think that would be preferred Mar 06 13:29:24 :> Mar 06 13:29:27 but you can't Mar 06 13:29:28 i guess Mar 06 13:29:33 and shouldn't Mar 06 13:30:00 KotCzarny: I don't follow Mar 06 13:30:10 jaska_: it got dizzy because of the plenty of them? :> Mar 06 13:30:38 spakman: as i understand you plan to force user to enable extras automatically? Mar 06 13:31:37 ~curse nokia Mar 06 13:31:38 May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, nokia ! Mar 06 13:32:05 KotCzarny: I've not tried, but I think you can specify multiple repositories to be enabled in a single .install file. I'm not 100% sure I like the idea though. Mar 06 13:32:16 hmm Mar 06 13:32:29 well, here's the problem with mirroring it at least, say you mirror wget 1.1 and wget 1.2 gets pushed to extras but you don't update it for whatever reason. AFAIK, app manager won't let users pull the update from extras if they enable it later, and if something ever depends on >=1.2 then things will get screwed up. Someone should should correct me if I'm wrong Mar 06 13:32:38 you should warn user though about it's status Mar 06 13:32:48 ie. it's user-level quality Mar 06 13:32:50 :) Mar 06 13:33:44 hm think I'll just stick with the 1 sd card for now since I don't even use both Mar 06 13:33:55 plb: :) Mar 06 13:34:23 if it extends my battery life..may as well Mar 06 13:34:29 johnx: I didn't realise that, thanks. To compound the problem, I also have some users who have already installed - wget will be a new dependency in a later version. Of course, they may not have extras enabled... Mar 06 13:34:56 Spakman, verify what I said...I might be confused about it Mar 06 13:35:10 mine maemo sdk tree is 3.7G Mar 06 13:35:11 johnx: OK, I'll try. Mar 06 13:35:12 huh Mar 06 13:35:19 but basically the whole situation is a little messed up (like hrw will happily tell you... :) ) Mar 06 13:35:45 * Spakman nods vigorously Mar 06 13:35:53 :) Mar 06 13:36:23 anyways, I should get some sleep Mar 06 13:36:25 'night all Mar 06 13:36:27 me too Mar 06 13:36:29 night! Mar 06 13:38:48 situation is simple - if you want to have extra packages to make your working -- create own repository and ignore all users which will complain about yet-another-repository Mar 06 13:38:56 if they complain - send them to Nokia Mar 06 13:39:21 thats my opinion Mar 06 13:39:24 or just include wget-spakman in your package Mar 06 13:39:33 and don't relay on user's installed one Mar 06 13:39:48 that will have added bonus not breaking with wget upgrades Mar 06 13:39:49 :) Mar 06 13:40:10 and ignroe fact that 256MB flash is small amount Mar 06 13:40:25 still plenty of space Mar 06 13:40:45 after removing video/audio stuff from / Mar 06 13:41:42 hmm, interesting, it doesn't matter which one i use (esd/alsa/gst) it always switches to 400/133 mode Mar 06 13:42:36 KotCzarny: are you worried about power consumption on music playback? Mar 06 13:42:46 not that much Mar 06 13:43:14 let's see what cpufreq can do for me Mar 06 13:43:32 hrw, KotCzarny - thanks for the thoughts. Mar 06 13:44:15 spakman: np :) Mar 06 13:44:58 and it is really time to create own repo ;D Mar 06 13:45:40 i guess task for tomorrow/today will be installing bash Mar 06 13:45:41 :> Mar 06 13:46:46 it is easy Mar 06 13:47:01 2 hours for finding distro, 5 minutes to install Mar 06 13:47:06 hi Rodrigo Mar 06 13:47:17 s/distro/repo Mar 06 13:47:24 nope Mar 06 13:47:28 source build Mar 06 13:47:48 'bitbake bash' Mar 06 13:48:28 install frozen bubble ;] Mar 06 13:48:54 plb: it's called pengupop Mar 06 13:48:55 :) Mar 06 13:49:02 ah Mar 06 13:49:06 has multiplayer mode Mar 06 13:49:07 ;) Mar 06 13:50:06 hmm Mar 06 13:50:18 is cpufreq ignored completely? Mar 06 13:51:44 has anyone installed zsh? Mar 06 13:51:52 o.o Mar 06 13:52:03 how much battery life can one expect from just audio use? Mar 06 13:52:27 plb: statusbar battery applet should tell you that Mar 06 13:52:31 after ~10 min playback Mar 06 13:52:32 :) Mar 06 13:53:12 heh ya I know but I was just wondering Mar 06 13:53:31 i have audio battery rundown queued too Mar 06 13:53:43 so i will know in a week or two Mar 06 13:53:44 ;) Mar 06 13:54:04 great Mar 06 13:54:54 what are testing the 800 or 810? Mar 06 13:55:00 ? Mar 06 13:55:29 which tablet are you using the n800 or n810 Mar 06 13:55:32 800 Mar 06 13:55:37 ah ok Mar 06 13:56:30 I actually purchased a iaudio d2 for $155 then I saw n800 was only $240 so I returned the d2 lol Mar 06 13:56:51 * KotCzarny got n800 for 150 Mar 06 13:56:53 $ Mar 06 13:56:54 :) Mar 06 13:57:03 good deal..used I take it? Mar 06 13:57:07 yes Mar 06 13:57:19 but very good condition Mar 06 13:58:03 ya..I was going to get on craigslist but the guy wanted $250 and was a prick...I was telling him they are less than that new now and he just sent me an email like fuck you $250 Mar 06 13:58:13 :) Mar 06 13:58:22 don't force Mar 06 13:58:30 if one person is stuck on price Mar 06 13:58:34 other may not be Mar 06 13:58:38 :) Mar 06 13:58:57 yeah but it was the only one I could find on there Mar 06 13:59:04 until like the day after I got mine lol Mar 06 13:59:11 yeah.. i know that Mar 06 13:59:15 some guy in manhattan had one for $250 as well Mar 06 13:59:20 day or two after i buy something Mar 06 13:59:26 it shows up on cl ;) Mar 06 13:59:31 yep Mar 06 14:00:12 http://newyork.craigslist.org/stn/bar/593564459.html it's yours? Mar 06 14:00:13 :> Mar 06 14:00:30 yep Mar 06 14:00:31 lol Mar 06 14:00:37 take it down then :) Mar 06 14:00:45 I deleted the email lol Mar 06 14:00:50 oh well Mar 06 14:00:50 though it will go down in a day or two :) Mar 06 14:00:53 yha Mar 06 14:00:54 ya Mar 06 14:01:17 maybe you have link in history still Mar 06 14:01:18 :) Mar 06 14:01:20 heh I've never had an ipod but noticed you have to pay for updates for ipod touch...that is ridiculous Mar 06 14:01:29 don't think so Mar 06 14:01:39 I formatted the other day lol Mar 06 14:01:55 that cowon has nice audio battery life Mar 06 14:02:01 yeah it does Mar 06 14:02:02 52h Mar 06 14:02:06 yep Mar 06 14:02:13 10hrs for video Mar 06 14:02:19 but try watching a video on there lol Mar 06 14:02:22 it's so tiny Mar 06 14:02:33 I watched 30 days of night on there lol Mar 06 14:02:35 but only 32x240 :) Mar 06 14:02:42 320x240 Mar 06 14:02:54 and it was widescreen so it had the black bars lol Mar 06 14:02:57 top and bottom Mar 06 14:03:02 super small Mar 06 14:03:19 doesn't have zoom? Mar 06 14:03:39 not that I'm aware of...not sure..I had to convert the format Mar 06 14:03:55 with the jetaudio software that comes with it Mar 06 14:04:35 :) Mar 06 14:05:10 the screen size on the n800 is nice for movie watching ;] Mar 06 14:05:16 though I have yet to watch anything Mar 06 14:05:20 could be bigger Mar 06 14:05:21 :) Mar 06 14:05:28 but i'm not complaining :) Mar 06 14:05:48 830 will have 1024x600 probably Mar 06 14:05:48 heh Mar 06 14:06:07 but it's only a guess Mar 06 14:06:31 cool Mar 06 14:07:17 n830? you mean that mistic n810+wimax? Mar 06 14:07:24 nope Mar 06 14:07:32 i mean the next okia after 810 Mar 06 14:07:34 :) Mar 06 14:08:51 end of 2008 will show probably Mar 06 14:08:57 yup Mar 06 14:09:01 it will be 820 no? Mar 06 14:09:04 Kot, was that a rumor or personal guess? Mar 06 14:09:14 untill it shows in shops no one can tell for sure the specs Mar 06 14:09:18 I just hope that it will be less broken by design that n810 is Mar 06 14:09:20 inz: personal guess Mar 06 14:09:39 but it is nokia - it will be broken by design ;D Mar 06 14:09:55 Kot, so you're trying to start a rumor ;) Mar 06 14:10:10 inz: sorry :) Mar 06 14:10:37 Kot, "if a false statement is repeated often enough, it will become the truth" Mar 06 14:10:48 inz: i know Mar 06 14:10:53 :) Mar 06 14:11:11 it's called wishfull thinking, or brainwash Mar 06 14:11:12 ;) Mar 06 14:11:33 can be usefull tool though Mar 06 14:14:50 ok. bed time. Mar 06 14:16:12 hm anything I can disable to improve battery life? I guess disabling wifi search interval is one Mar 06 14:16:34 lcd brightness Mar 06 14:17:07 I've got that on 2 Mar 06 14:18:01 plb: look for a statusbar plugin that replaces audio/display one Mar 06 14:18:21 it will give you more display options Mar 06 14:18:44 it's in repos? Mar 06 14:18:58 don't remember, on mameo.org definitely Mar 06 14:19:24 I would assume that it is in repos Mar 06 14:19:32 but which ones is left to user ;D Mar 06 14:20:17 https://garage.maemo.org/projects/adv-backlight/ Mar 06 14:20:19 this one Mar 06 14:20:24 but garage seems down Mar 06 14:20:25 :> Mar 06 14:21:05 KotCzarny: it is not down - it is resting Mar 06 14:21:16 it's not a horse Mar 06 14:21:25 it can't rest while standing :) Mar 06 14:21:27 so it's down Mar 06 14:21:28 :) Mar 06 14:21:53 or that mistic 33600 modem which maemo.org use as internet connection finally died Mar 06 14:22:06 works, but slowly Mar 06 14:22:09 maybe db lag Mar 06 14:22:29 anyway, very nice app Mar 06 14:22:41 and takes only one slot instead of 2 in status bar :) Mar 06 14:23:06 it could have a shourtcut to settings->display though Mar 06 14:23:16 add it Mar 06 14:23:17 anyway. sleep. Mar 06 14:23:22 its open Mar 06 14:23:33 KotCzarny: sweet dreams Mar 06 14:23:34 hrw: i will Mar 06 14:24:45 night night Mar 06 14:24:47 =P Mar 06 14:45:39 hrw: maemo.org is hosted on an N770 with bluetooth gprs connection, so that may be flaky ;) Mar 06 14:45:51 certainly feels like that at times Mar 06 14:46:00 bluetooth over the horizon Mar 06 14:47:31 thats other option Mar 06 14:51:32 Morning. Mar 06 14:53:12 can mediaserv be setup with basic HTTP authentication? I can't find the docs, and I'm not a perl hacker... Mar 06 14:55:23 RyanE: not at the moment, no. Mar 06 14:55:31 * Jaffa adds it to the TODO list Mar 06 14:55:32 thx Mar 06 14:55:48 it's awesome. Mar 06 15:11:23 anybody have a non-broken libbost-signals for chinook? Mar 06 15:11:34 s/libbost/libboost/ Mar 06 15:11:34 pupnik meant: anybody have a non-broken libboost-signals for chinook? Mar 06 15:22:45 i need a build environment completely in RAM cache Mar 06 15:23:31 have the kernel automatically suck up all kinds of stuff into a ram cache until i say flush Mar 06 15:30:15 why? Mar 06 15:31:12 how to remove a string from a file (with sed) but only if the string exact match the pattern ? Mar 06 15:32:18 Does the N800 charge over USB? And WTF does it mean that it can't connect because I have a memory card inserted? Mar 06 15:32:20 * SDuensin is confused Mar 06 15:32:33 shackan: speed up compilations Mar 06 15:32:50 no usb charging Mar 06 15:33:03 pupnik - nuts. Mar 06 15:33:06 connecting usb gives your PC a lock on the memory card for file transfer Mar 06 15:33:21 Ah. Ok. Yea, the card is in use on the 800. Mar 06 15:33:34 SDuensin: You can buy a USB power-tip cable. Mar 06 15:34:01 Might have to do that so I can power it off my lappy. Mar 06 15:34:48 pupnik: I think, it's not IO what's problem, it's CPU/RAM, but anyway you can make a ramdisk tmpfs or so Mar 06 15:35:09 or SSD could help also Mar 06 15:35:54 well this damn libboost is going to suck up a day of mine, i can tell Mar 06 15:36:03 pupnik: you want to build ON the device ? Mar 06 15:36:07 no Mar 06 15:36:11 ah ok :D Mar 06 15:38:20 pupnik: if you still need it: http://sse2.net/boost/ Mar 06 15:38:55 thanks jott! Mar 06 15:39:06 derf: USB power-tip cable would be USB -> nokia 2mm? Mar 06 15:39:38 how did you build just the -signals so fast? Mar 06 15:39:43 RyanE: Yes. Mar 06 15:39:54 pupnik: oh i build the whole boost stuff a while ago.. Mar 06 15:40:12 file date says 13. jan :) Mar 06 15:43:53 i couldn't build it at all Mar 06 15:45:14 oh dear... thanks jott your libboost is the only one that works Mar 06 15:51:23 where I can get gpg or pgp for chinook sdk ? Mar 06 16:56:10 there's no way to make a package install data to /media/mmcX Mar 06 16:56:37 dpkg: error processing.... error setting ownership of Mar 06 16:57:48