**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Mar 15 02:59:56 2008 Mar 15 03:00:18 is there an easy way to tell if a binary is using soft floats or hardware fp? Mar 15 03:00:51 disassemble it and look for instructions Mar 15 03:01:10 know a float op off the top of your head? Mar 15 03:01:47 no but I am sure the ARM ARM would ;) Mar 15 03:03:10 ahh.. i see it stfd Mar 15 03:03:54 i was reading an article.. apparently a guy completely rebuilt the maemo image using the vfp Mar 15 03:04:37 to summarize his results.. binaries were larger and took a little more memory.. but the improvement in speed was quite significant Mar 15 03:13:42 depends on what U talkin bout Mar 15 03:13:48 i think it was libcairo that got a boost Mar 15 03:14:34 i'm sooo going to be a pest now... i can just tell Mar 15 03:14:45 does anybody want to finish porting DrPocketSnes? :) Mar 15 03:16:32 Lol Mar 15 03:32:34 hey Mar 15 03:33:13 hi Mar 15 03:33:53 any1 check out stella Mar 15 03:38:32 hows it working for you dospod ? Mar 15 03:38:59 freakn swee Mar 15 03:39:00 t Mar 15 03:39:07 glad to hear it :) Mar 15 03:39:20 played ms pac man like all day at school Mar 15 03:39:26 lol Mar 15 03:39:45 that was a pretty good one Mar 15 03:40:03 the ghost graphics would flicker but its somethin that happened on my dads atari Mar 15 03:40:12 yep Mar 15 03:40:25 with a bluetooth keyboard you can also do two player Mar 15 03:40:29 a little awkward but still Mar 15 03:40:35 or a wiimote Mar 15 03:40:50 gotta try that someday Mar 15 03:40:50 * Navi should try a gamepad too Mar 15 03:41:10 none of my friends like atari Mar 15 03:41:21 I don't blame them Mar 15 03:41:30 dude atari ftw Mar 15 03:41:45 im glad my parents saved their atari Mar 15 03:41:54 i love how most of those games are only 4096 bytes Mar 15 03:41:56 anyone know where to get the chinook kernel source? maemo page appears to be incorrect or out of date Mar 15 03:42:05 while it was great in it's time, nowadays it's just a collection of repetitive games Mar 15 03:42:52 fuck halo, tanks :] Mar 15 03:43:18 ii cant wait for dr pocket snes :] Mar 15 03:43:28 me too Mar 15 03:43:45 OoT 'em Mar 15 03:43:46 it loads roms now Mar 15 03:44:06 so at least there's progress Mar 15 03:44:27 :] Mar 15 03:44:36 chrono triggerr Mar 15 03:44:46 earth bound Mar 15 03:44:48 ff Mar 15 03:44:52 I love earth bound Mar 15 03:44:54 mario kart Mar 15 03:45:14 and mario all stars:] Mar 15 03:45:38 I'm pissed that modern RPGs haven't learned from them, namely, the *if you're strong enough you don't have to waste time with a crappy fighting scene* Mar 15 03:45:55 and with vgba we got pokemon,advance wars, ff, fire emblem,golden sun Mar 15 03:46:03 how well do they run? Mar 15 03:47:03 playable Mar 15 03:47:12 mmk Mar 15 03:47:14 but conntrols are weird Mar 15 03:47:33 a and b are in the center of the screen Mar 15 03:48:28 but really playable Mar 15 03:48:30 that fms guy wrote one of the first NES emulators ever Mar 15 03:49:05 even with sound, and i bet with nossounds its close to perfect Mar 15 03:49:42 what are good gba rpgs dospod ? Mar 15 03:50:15 the ff remake with ff1 and 2 Mar 15 03:50:26 fire emblem is ok Mar 15 03:50:39 pokemon Mar 15 03:51:27 ironic how square called it 'final fantasy' cause they thought they were going out of business with the rpgs Mar 15 03:51:29 ff tactics Mar 15 03:51:45 pupnik, meh Mar 15 03:51:45 golden sun is cool Mar 15 03:52:01 they poured the last of their money into that last game Mar 15 03:52:04 zelda minish cap is fun but short Mar 15 03:52:24 cool thanks Mar 15 03:52:25 ZMC is the best iteration of the Zelda series Mar 15 03:52:38 thatts all i can think of now Mar 15 03:52:48 zmc was fun Mar 15 03:52:58 so was twillight zone Mar 15 03:53:11 I don't like any of the 3D zeldas Mar 15 03:54:44 tz was fun, but the 2d seem more fun Mar 15 03:57:14 gotta be an rpg or something for me though. with that dpad Mar 15 03:58:05 some platformers are doable too Mar 15 03:58:25 I need to set up cwiid Mar 15 03:58:54 but since I can't really play games 'till next friday, I haven't the motivation Mar 15 03:59:13 is there a wiimote controller with a more normal shape? Mar 15 03:59:27 well, there's the classic controller add-on Mar 15 03:59:36 which looks a bit like the snes pad Mar 15 03:59:46 slightly more comfy though Mar 15 04:00:09 i figure i'd want something like those usb controllers Mar 15 04:00:17 two-thumb action with shoulder buttons Mar 15 04:00:38 but the bt keyboard works pretty well imo Mar 15 04:01:02 ps3 gamepad is bluetooth too Mar 15 04:01:04 It's not bad, two analog, one dpad, four buttons, two analog shoulders with digital click, and two digital shoulders Mar 15 04:02:10 i cant wait for the youtube canola plugin Mar 15 04:02:27 mytube works pretty well for me Mar 15 04:02:44 need to be able to search by date tho Mar 15 04:02:45 Eh, if I were going to tote around a remote as big as a SIXAXIS, I'd bring the 360 controller Mar 15 04:02:47 it is but the ui is left to be desired Mar 15 04:03:06 360 isnt bluetooth Mar 15 04:03:23 USB, though Mar 15 04:04:49 i wish gtk gnutella was hildoonized for os2008 Mar 15 04:05:28 hi guys Mar 15 04:05:30 morning Mar 15 04:05:36 guys Mar 15 04:05:38 hey Mar 15 04:05:45 i want to install os2008 Mar 15 04:05:48 u mean gnight llol Mar 15 04:05:52 on my new n800 os 2007 Mar 15 04:06:05 tell me is it easy? Mar 15 04:06:13 and don't have any problem? Mar 15 04:06:43 that's here http://www.nokia.com/OS2008 Mar 15 04:06:50 works fine here Mar 15 04:07:03 it is a easy process Mar 15 04:07:31 i was nervous too first time :) Mar 15 04:07:45 ... flashing the device Mar 15 04:07:53 yes me too i am nervous now Mar 15 04:08:25 dospod Mar 15 04:09:22 look here Mar 15 04:09:30 is this? http://www.nokia.com.my/A4791132 Mar 15 04:09:32 i'm off.... doing some 'quality control' testing of a new Emu :P Mar 15 04:09:32 yes? Mar 15 04:09:59 tell me it can work here Mar 15 04:10:06 cos i am very nervous now Mar 15 04:10:19 i bought my n800 on yesterday Mar 15 04:10:25 and want to do this now! Mar 15 04:10:41 yea thats the place for the update and is easy Mar 15 04:11:04 pupnik what emu Mar 15 04:11:05 ok so i just need to follow the no.4 : Follow the instructions on screen to complete the software update. Mar 15 04:11:21 takes about 20 mins! Mar 15 04:11:52 tell me i must take off my sdhc card? Mar 15 04:13:08 u can keep the card in and it can take up to 20 but its never lasted longer than 2 min for me Mar 15 04:13:34 oh Mar 15 04:13:53 tell me where is 0s2008? http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N800.php or http://www.nokia.com.my/A4791132 Mar 15 04:13:57 which one>? Mar 15 04:15:45 please reply Mar 15 04:16:52 by the way canola 2 is available on os 2008 too yes? Mar 15 04:18:08 in beta i think Mar 15 04:20:01 yea beta6 works clean Mar 15 04:20:09 tnx Mar 15 04:20:30 what is it? To check the version number of the current software on your device, tap on the Application menu, and select Tools > Control panel > About product. Mar 15 04:20:38 i need it for update? Mar 15 04:20:42 the tablet.dev.nokia is the right one Mar 15 04:21:48 nono for update tell me Mar 15 04:22:05 i can update my os2007 to os2008 with my pc yes Mar 15 04:22:20 only my pc and the tool Nokia_Internet_Tablet_Software_Update_Wizard.exe Mar 15 04:22:24 Nokia_Internet_Tablet_Software_Update_Wizard.exe yes? Mar 15 04:22:29 i need only this>? Mar 15 04:23:44 please reply i want to do this now Mar 15 04:24:04 yes that should be it Mar 15 04:25:01 anyone having trouble upgrading ssh-common,-client and -server? Mar 15 04:25:14 i don't need any product code for update??????????????/ Mar 15 04:26:25 it might ask for it Mar 15 04:29:57 official utility for flashing the N800 found at http://nds1.nokia.com/files/support/global/phones/software/Nokia_Internet_Tablet_Software_Update_Wizard.exe Mar 15 04:29:57 or something else? Mar 15 04:33:57 download that Mar 15 04:38:27 ok and use only that now! :D Mar 15 05:07:10 :D Mar 15 05:08:08 3.207.10.7 Mar 15 05:08:15 this is my n800 version Mar 15 05:08:25 ready for upgrade to os 2008? Mar 15 05:08:28 yes? Mar 15 05:11:38 ? Mar 15 05:12:39 hi guys Mar 15 05:15:05 my n800 is switch on and connected to usb and i see the usb on the top of right sise Mar 15 05:15:18 but not happened? Mar 15 05:15:38 HI iDS Mar 15 05:15:42 hi Mar 15 05:15:47 have you started the flasher app? Mar 15 05:15:54 that has to be running first Mar 15 05:15:58 yes 0s 2007 to os 2008 Mar 15 05:16:09 3.207.10.7 is my number Mar 15 05:16:16 are you using the nokia updater for windows? Mar 15 05:16:27 yes windows Mar 15 05:16:30 ok Mar 15 05:16:36 it found the n800 hardware Mar 15 05:16:40 usb is ok Mar 15 05:16:44 for the autocomplete when using the stylus keyboard, is there a way to make the words show on the right side, to right of the spacebar rather then left? Mar 15 05:16:44 on the PC it tells you to turn on the tablet? Mar 15 05:17:02 cLin: not that I know of Mar 15 05:17:28 guys Mar 15 05:17:30 basically you have to connect the USB cable form the PC to the N800 Mar 15 05:17:35 when the N800 is OFF Mar 15 05:17:35 it said Mar 15 05:17:56 n800 is on and i can see only logo with usb sign Mar 15 05:17:58 then turn the N800 ON while pressing the 'home' button Mar 15 05:18:57 the update server could not authenticate you because your windows clock is not on time Mar 15 05:19:01 what is it? Mar 15 05:19:13 lol Mar 15 05:19:21 i am useing Nokia_Internet_Tablet_Software_Update_Wizard.exe Mar 15 05:19:34 what's that mean? clock? Mar 15 05:19:36 make sure your PS's clock is correcdt Mar 15 05:19:49 s/correcdt/correct Mar 15 05:19:51 yes clock is 8:50 am here Mar 15 05:20:05 the timezone has to be right too Mar 15 05:20:48 what can i do now? Mar 15 05:21:01 restart form the beginning? Mar 15 05:21:07 it wants set windows clock to correct time Mar 15 05:21:23 ok restart again Mar 15 05:23:11 1 min Mar 15 05:26:52 i have clock problem Mar 15 05:27:00 what can i do? please guide me Mar 15 05:27:28 i got it Mar 15 05:31:00 hi Mar 15 05:31:04 guys again Mar 15 05:31:09 ok 1 thing Mar 15 05:31:25 it needs to insert off my sdhc from that? Mar 15 05:31:51 in the while of upgrading Mar 15 05:31:54 ? Mar 15 05:31:55 yes? Mar 15 05:35:40 ? Mar 15 05:37:19 working now Mar 15 05:37:36 iDS what is your native language? Mar 15 05:38:56 farsi Mar 15 05:39:33 so did you upgrade yet? Mar 15 05:39:38 i am updating latest version 2008se_2.2007-51_3 Mar 15 05:39:43 cool Mar 15 05:39:47 :D Mar 15 05:39:59 time left 123 mins wow Mar 15 05:40:04 its really simple when using the windows updater Mar 15 05:40:10 dialup? Mar 15 05:40:31 no adsl 200 Mar 15 05:40:54 anyway guys it is perfect? Mar 15 05:40:57 right? Mar 15 05:47:48 YES? Mar 15 05:48:10 well it doesn't need other levels Mar 15 05:48:25 like add the product number... Mar 15 05:48:32 please reply me Mar 15 05:49:47 I do not understand what the problem you are having is Mar 15 05:50:07 what is your native language? Mar 15 05:50:23 Tama^3 /= Tama Mar 15 05:50:27 :o Mar 15 05:50:40 :O Mar 15 05:53:15 Tama^3 Mar 15 05:53:33 it is downloading and then will go for updating Mar 15 05:53:40 just this yes? Mar 15 05:53:55 yes, it should do that Mar 15 07:27:16 is it possible to install apps on mmc1 or 2? Mar 15 07:27:30 not easily Mar 15 07:29:08 a shame Mar 15 07:29:28 how not easily Mar 15 07:29:46 well the easiest way to do it is to flash a custom initfs and boot from an sd card Mar 15 07:30:08 google for "maemo root on sd" Mar 15 07:30:27 yeah that is beyond me Mar 15 07:31:05 just extract everything and use ln -s Mar 15 07:32:01 i'm not trying to do it now Mar 15 07:32:12 just curious Mar 15 07:32:33 since ihave 16 gb on cards Mar 15 07:55:36 Hans-Hermann Hoppe is more or less an asskicking thinker Mar 15 07:55:36 http://mises.org/media.aspx?action=showname&ID=164 Mar 15 08:00:44 ummm Mar 15 08:00:49 where is canola 2? Mar 15 08:00:55 for os 2008? Mar 15 08:01:02 my upgrade is finished Mar 15 08:01:16 http://openbossa.indt.org.br/canola/ Mar 15 08:01:16 i am looking for canola there but couldn't find it Mar 15 08:01:23 Tama^3 Mar 15 08:01:27 :P Mar 15 08:01:33 it isn't with update? Mar 15 08:01:47 my update to os 2008 is finished Mar 15 08:02:33 does not come with the OS Mar 15 08:02:34 brb Mar 15 08:02:40 oh ok Mar 15 08:29:33 ok hello again Mar 15 08:29:36 aggg Mar 15 08:29:43 well Mar 15 08:29:50 os 2008 is finished Mar 15 08:29:59 but i couldn't find canola 2 there? Mar 15 08:30:59 ? Mar 15 08:31:29 canola2 is here: http://openbossa.indt.org.br/canola2/ Mar 15 08:37:29 is pimlico a project sponsored by nokia? Mar 15 08:38:59 but 1 problem Mar 15 08:39:07 leo2007, I don't believe so Mar 15 08:39:20 i don't have internet connection for my n800 tablet Mar 15 08:39:33 how can i install canola now? Mar 15 08:41:23 ok, honestly it's really hard to install apps without internet access. maybe you setup usb networking and let your n800 share your desktop's internet connection Mar 15 08:43:06 yes Mar 15 08:43:48 what operating system does your desktop run? Mar 15 08:43:56 windows, mac os, linux? Mar 15 08:44:00 xp sp2 prof Mar 15 08:44:16 how can i do setup usb networking ? Mar 15 08:45:03 first, go here: http://nitapps.com/ download easyroot. it's a .deb file. copy that to your tablet and install it Mar 15 08:45:26 ok 1 min please Mar 15 08:46:20 easyroot Mar 15 08:46:36 can i use the extended SD card with ext2 ? Mar 15 08:46:50 eichi_, yes Mar 15 08:46:57 it is only 1 kb Mar 15 08:47:22 that sounds right Mar 15 08:47:31 it's a very simple program Mar 15 08:48:19 johnx, out of the box? Mar 15 08:48:44 yeah, the kernel has ext2/3 support Mar 15 08:48:47 yes but johnx, easyroot is only 1 kb and i do transfer it to my n800 now and install? Mar 15 08:49:02 yes Mar 15 08:49:16 ok sec p Mar 15 08:50:06 ok and? Mar 15 08:52:08 johnx easyroot is installed on my n800 os 2008 Mar 15 08:52:10 and? Mar 15 08:52:30 yeah, give me a sec Mar 15 08:52:38 I have to figure this out as I go Mar 15 08:52:45 ok tnx Mar 15 08:53:42 johnx, now the maemo filemanager give me a "unable to open" Mar 15 08:54:12 i did mkfs -t ext2 /dev/sdc on my laptop with the sd card Mar 15 08:54:36 uhm...you probably wanted to just format the partition, not the whole device Mar 15 08:54:46 okay, i try Mar 15 08:57:40 johnx, hm, now i did one primary partition with ext2, but again unable to open Mar 15 08:58:56 eichi_, try opening up an xterm on the tablet and seeing if the ext2 kernel module is loaded Mar 15 08:59:52 i have problems gaining root with os2008 :( how can i do that? Mar 15 09:00:03 sudo gainroot was with the 2007 Mar 15 09:00:11 install easyroot from nitapps.com Mar 15 09:00:21 then type root Mar 15 09:00:52 ok? Mar 15 09:01:00 oh not me Mar 15 09:01:06 i am here johnx Mar 15 09:01:40 I know...I'm still trying to figure out the easiest way to do this on windows. I run Linux here so I'm trying to learn as I go Mar 15 09:01:50 yes friend Mar 15 09:02:14 by the way python2.5 runtime is include python2.5-readline? Mar 15 09:03:02 yes lsmod says ext2 is loaded Mar 15 09:03:38 eichi_, can you mount it from the terminal: Mar 15 09:03:40 ? Mar 15 09:03:54 mom Mar 15 09:04:47 it is mounted... Mar 15 09:06:32 touch test && ls give me "test" Mar 15 09:06:34 it works Mar 15 09:06:41 yay Mar 15 09:06:53 only the filemanager seems to s*ck a bit Mar 15 09:07:56 lol, the fielmanager works too. it only gives me all the time a "unable to open" message. message seems to start without a reason Mar 15 09:08:41 i will try to use emelFM2 anyway Mar 15 09:10:21 iDS, I need to leave for now. Maybe I will be on later. See if you can figure it out. good luck Mar 15 09:10:48 oh :( Mar 15 09:10:56 just friend Mar 15 09:11:08 is there a website for download Mar 15 09:11:16 n800 os 2008 007 tools Mar 15 09:11:31 and of course with my pc and no with my tablet Mar 15 09:12:09 downloads.maemo.org iDS ? Mar 15 09:12:37 no i have only internet on my pc now and not for tablet Mar 15 09:12:59 i want to download tools with my pc connection Mar 15 09:15:33 hm, thats not common Mar 15 09:15:47 internet table without internet..sorry if i smile ;D Mar 15 09:16:23 downloading a exe and install it is not the linux way. you need internet connection Mar 15 09:16:27 yes i understand u but at this moment i can't Mar 15 09:16:46 how can i use my pc internet for n800? Mar 15 09:17:10 you need wlan stick making an access point maybe Mar 15 09:17:24 or over bluetooth pan Mar 15 09:17:24 maybe is there a usb way too?! Mar 15 09:17:31 or bluetooth yes Mar 15 09:17:51 yes how is the usb way? please guide Mar 15 09:18:31 someone has Bluetooth Radar? Mar 15 09:18:40 https://garage.maemo.org/projects/btradar/ it is empty there Mar 15 09:23:38 ? Mar 15 09:28:46 i don't see files there either Mar 15 09:30:03 aquatix Mar 15 09:30:14 how can i install games? Mar 15 09:30:29 look here https://garage.maemo.org/search/?type_of_search=full&group_id=52&words=mplayer&Search=Search Mar 15 09:30:40 i am seeing 2 files .deb and .gz Mar 15 09:30:49 i downloaded them in my pc Mar 15 09:30:55 and move to my n800 Mar 15 09:31:01 now how can i install?? Mar 15 09:32:49 ???????? Mar 15 09:32:54 https://garage.maemo.org/projects/descent2/ Mar 15 09:32:57 yes there Mar 15 09:41:28 can someone help me? Mar 15 09:42:39 how can i find sw.grp and sw.rts? Mar 15 09:43:19 help please Mar 15 09:43:59 sorry, i'm really busy Mar 15 09:44:19 just Mar 15 09:44:24 http://internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17420 Mar 15 09:44:37 i installed http://pupnik.de/shadowwarrior_1.2-3.deb to my n800 Mar 15 09:44:44 but it didn't run Mar 15 09:44:48 :( Mar 15 09:44:58 what is it Create a directory /media/mmc[1-2]/share/sw and put sw.grp, sw.rts in there??????? Mar 15 09:45:03 i don't understand Mar 15 09:45:17 sorry i bought my n800 yesterday Mar 15 09:45:27 and don't know nothing yet Mar 15 10:05:59 Morning, all Mar 15 10:06:13 yo Mar 15 10:08:02 nobody like me :'''( Mar 15 10:28:47 ids intrusion detection system Mar 15 10:29:00 of course nobody likes you Mar 15 10:29:04 Hi Jaffa Mar 15 10:32:38 Muhahaha, I'm bored, my computer is taking a long time to copy from scratchbox image and combined with the fact it took me ages to get a copy of vmware and my internet is slow under linux :( Mar 15 10:42:15 iDS, http://www.gronmayer.com/it Mar 15 10:42:29 install the chinook repositories Mar 15 10:42:38 and you should be good to go after that. Mar 15 10:52:08 unique311: except that he doesn't have internet on his n800 and tries all kinds of weird stuff :) Mar 15 10:52:44 i wish i spoke a little farsi. Mar 15 10:53:11 to help him out... Mar 15 10:53:56 ah Mar 15 10:54:01 that would help i guess Mar 15 10:56:48 Hi all Mar 15 10:57:08 anyone tried use usb joystick on OS2008? Mar 15 11:01:13 hi Mar 15 11:01:29 just wanna normal gamepad =) Mar 15 11:01:42 please help Mar 15 11:02:06 where is kismet for nokia 770 with so2007 he? Mar 15 11:02:26 huh? compile it... Mar 15 11:03:00 sorry, i don,t Mar 15 11:03:16 i don,t compile Mar 15 11:03:19 :( Mar 15 11:03:45 unique311 hi dude i am here now Mar 15 11:03:48 hold on Mar 15 11:03:50 kismet for os 2006 fun in 2007 he? Mar 15 11:04:21 iDS, considering you don't have no wireless connection going, I don't know how to help you. Mar 15 11:04:55 ummm i think to buy a wifi adaptor for my pc Mar 15 11:04:55 but you can still go to the gronmayer site and add the repos. Mar 15 11:05:06 huh? gronmayer's site is down... Mar 15 11:05:07 and then n800 can work? Mar 15 11:05:20 x-demon, no Mar 15 11:05:45 oh Mar 15 11:05:55 its taking a while to load now. Mar 15 11:06:00 maybe it is down Mar 15 11:06:03 is 32 gigs SD working with n800 (wanna clone os to it) Mar 15 11:06:13 its working Mar 15 11:06:19 unique311 tell me how can i share my pc internet to my n800? Mar 15 11:06:35 you should be googling for that answer. Mar 15 11:07:21 unique311, did you know smthn about joypads on n800? Mar 15 11:07:42 unique311 Mar 15 11:08:06 look here http://internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17420 Mar 15 11:08:07 you may have to compile the appropriate joypad modules x-demon Mar 15 11:08:22 i installed deb file on my n800 os 2008 Mar 15 11:08:37 but the game can't work when i clicked it Mar 15 11:08:41 oh, i need any extra packages on n800 to compile kernel module? Mar 15 11:08:55 you do not compile on the n800 Mar 15 11:08:57 :P Mar 15 11:09:19 please guide me and tell me how is Create a directory /media/mmc[1-2]/share/sw and put sw.grp, sw.rts in there ?????????? Mar 15 11:09:50 Tama^2, i have kubuntu with 2.6.25 Mar 15 11:09:52 iDS, do you have those files? Mar 15 11:09:58 sw.grp and sw.rts Mar 15 11:10:04 find those files Mar 15 11:10:06 you have to install the meamo SDK Mar 15 11:10:31 unique311 no where can i find them? Mar 15 11:10:43 Tama^2, debs? Mar 15 11:10:47 iDS, google Mar 15 11:10:58 tripolo, no info, sorry Mar 15 11:11:10 ok 1 sec and then where can i move them? Mar 15 11:11:11 only found it in OS2006 repo (Eko One) Mar 15 11:11:14 which section? Mar 15 11:11:16 * Jaffa tries to get back in the ARM assembler groove from about 10 years ago Mar 15 11:11:24 iDS, create a directory Mar 15 11:11:37 in /media/mmc1/share/sw Mar 15 11:11:47 or /media/mmc2/share/sw Mar 15 11:11:48 ok create a directory where? on my sdhc ? or other? Mar 15 11:11:51 search garage.maemo.org for an SDK virtual machine image, alternatively install scratchbox Mar 15 11:12:01 the internal or external Mar 15 11:12:06 internal being mmc2 Mar 15 11:12:07 maemo.org has all the details of the procedure Mar 15 11:12:09 ok Mar 15 11:12:10 ok Mar 15 11:12:12 thx Mar 15 11:12:15 external being mmc1 Mar 15 11:12:45 any mirror with kismet for os2007 he? Mar 15 11:12:51 unique311 i installed http://pupnik.de/shadowwarrior_1.2-3.deb but i don't know where it gone ...to which memory my sdhc or internal mmc Mar 15 11:13:10 x-demon, i didn't try any gamepads. i was trying to get my wiimote to work, but can get it going.. Mar 15 11:13:13 so i gave up on it Mar 15 11:13:31 iDS, it doesn't go to the sdhc Mar 15 11:13:47 it installs to the device. Mar 15 11:13:56 huh, i need ANY joypad, since there is playable GBA emu Mar 15 11:13:58 unique311 so it went to my internal 160 mb ? Mar 15 11:14:12 and from reading the thread i thin you need to have those 2 files before the game is able to run Mar 15 11:14:18 yes Mar 15 11:14:26 maybe /usr/bin Mar 15 11:14:42 unique311 yes :( Mar 15 11:14:44 hi, I have a question, how can I mount the SD card that's in my n810? Mar 15 11:14:56 i couldn't find sw.grp and sw.rts Mar 15 11:15:01 on google Mar 15 11:15:16 you might not be searching hard enough Mar 15 11:15:37 can u find it please and give it to me? Mar 15 11:16:26 ftp://ftp.3drealms.com/share/3dsw12.zip Mar 15 11:16:29 check that link Mar 15 11:16:40 i'm not going to do that for you again. Mar 15 11:16:55 learn how to use The Google..... Mar 15 11:17:00 ok tnx Mar 15 11:17:41 yes sir please be there 1 min Mar 15 11:18:21 for some reason only /dev/sdd shows up, which is the internal memory, or should I try to mount something like /dev/sdd2? Mar 15 11:19:56 x-demon: I tried a wii-pad Mar 15 11:20:18 (oop I was reading in the past) Mar 15 11:20:46 keesj, how did ya get the wiimote working? Mar 15 11:21:09 yes, I played xmoto with it Mar 15 11:21:27 i tried pairing my wiimote, but no go Mar 15 11:21:40 i can't get blues-utilz installed Mar 15 11:21:56 I think the package in stilll in mud Mar 15 11:22:04 mud? Mar 15 11:22:48 ‰http://mud-builder.garage.maemo.org/ Mar 15 11:23:00 thanks.. Mar 15 11:23:09 https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/trunk/packages/cwiid.xml?root=mud-builder&view=markup Mar 15 11:23:21 cwiid , this is what I used , now I remeber Mar 15 11:23:27 why is the one in app manager not working? Mar 15 11:23:29 you know. Mar 15 11:25:02 I don't know , I did not see it in the app manager Mar 15 11:27:01 only shows in terminal Mar 15 11:27:56 what does apt-cache policy cwiid tel you? Mar 15 11:28:30 unable to locate Mar 15 11:29:56 ok so the package that gave me lots of problems last time installed today. Mar 15 11:30:03 you must have installed it from the command line :p Mar 15 11:30:10 let me see if i can pair Mar 15 11:31:29 I even did get the gtk ui running Mar 15 11:32:28 i got that running also Mar 15 11:32:35 i just couldn't pair the wiimote Mar 15 11:33:03 it was asking for a pairing pass Mar 15 11:34:23 perhaps your mote needs a reset? Mar 15 11:34:35 the red button thingy Mar 15 11:34:55 (I happen to only have a mote and not the wii itself (how pathetic) Mar 15 11:35:04 ok i got switchonBT installed Mar 15 11:35:07 lol keesj Mar 15 11:35:16 i need pyaxelwii Mar 15 11:35:20 keesj, same here Mar 15 11:35:35 i liked the whiteboard hack that was done with it Mar 15 11:35:40 so its people like you that meant i couldnt get enough motes for my wii Mar 15 11:35:49 so i wanted to give it a go Mar 15 11:36:07 (only joking, the mote is an amazing piece of technology and the wider they spread the better) Mar 15 11:36:28 but my infrared pen sucked, and i gave up on the whiteboard and bootleg cintiq Mar 15 11:37:06 I wanted to play games on the maemo device , bt was the best option and I hoped to create a simple game for my kids Mar 15 11:38:11 keesj, you checked out this site Mar 15 11:38:13 http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/projects/wii/ Mar 15 11:39:11 I don't remever. Mar 15 11:39:12 unique311, that guy has given me some ideas - i would like to use the camera in the 810 to do similar tracking but its whether or not theres enough grunt in the cpu to enable it Mar 15 11:39:34 lcuk: yes that wast my last project :P Mar 15 11:39:44 I called it gst-motion Mar 15 11:39:56 and already have a configure and a main.c ! Mar 15 11:40:04 do you have a handy piece of camera code lying around you could pastebin? Mar 15 11:40:32 I just followed the webcam tutorial on the maemo.org website (I did go for the c api) Mar 15 11:40:38 the guy from canola also said they had that in mind..... Mar 15 11:40:44 not sure, i think it was yesterday Mar 15 11:41:06 * lcuk just wants the camera bits. all processing will come from my side Mar 15 11:41:12 setanta: I cannot believe your scripts are in the vmcontents folder, I've been doing copying all morning :D Mar 15 11:42:33 * keesj is searching as we speak Mar 15 11:43:05 keesj, i saw that but wondered if there is an api which doesnt involve gstreamer - i dont need jpeg export etc Mar 15 11:43:16 the first cam hack I did was very simple tracking green (just de average over the whole screen) and the already enabled me to trac a green lighter Mar 15 11:43:19 i dont think there is tho Mar 15 11:43:53 luck yes there is , is but is it v4l2 Mar 15 11:44:20 for v4l1 I plained with the code from the same guy who did SDL_fgx Mar 15 11:45:27 http://www.ferzkopp.net/joomla/content/blogsection/2/14/ (SDL_bgrab) Mar 15 11:45:30 ill dig a bit deeper and see what i can discover - with so little resources going through multiple apis may be a bridge too far Mar 15 11:45:36 and started porting that to v4l2 Mar 15 11:46:29 luck I think it would now be that bad , the output from gst would already be scaled to a smaller size like (40x30) pixels? Mar 15 11:47:37 how can i see this part on my /media/mmc1/share ? Mar 15 11:47:45 i dont care for scaling - i have other things needing doing in the timeframe Mar 15 11:48:03 you cannot iDS Mar 15 11:48:07 unless of course the scaling is done by the camera hardware and doesnt take cycles Mar 15 11:48:19 go to Utilities Mar 15 11:48:30 then file manager Mar 15 11:48:51 inside mmc1 make a folder called share Mar 15 11:49:03 and then inside share make a folder called sw Mar 15 11:49:10 but how can i transe files to there// Mar 15 11:49:20 yeah transfer Mar 15 11:49:26 connect your n800 to the pc i guess Mar 15 11:49:27 how could it be? Mar 15 11:49:32 and? Mar 15 11:50:12 ? Mar 15 11:50:33 to transfer files between my windows machine and my n810 i installed ssh on the 810, and installed winscp on my windows box - this then gave access to my 810 like an ftp window where i can copy paste Mar 15 11:50:47 is lcuk same here Mar 15 11:51:00 but i fear that would be too hard for him. Mar 15 11:51:09 installed ssh ????? where is it? Mar 15 11:51:17 and winscp? Mar 15 11:51:22 i can see the whole filesystem and browse around it. there are other methods in linux desktop where you can mount folders, but i thought that was the simplest aproach for me Mar 15 11:51:28 iDS, if you connect your n800 to your pc Mar 15 11:51:56 you should get 2 drives mounted in C:\ Mar 15 11:52:11 not C:\ Mar 15 11:52:18 My Computer Mar 15 11:52:46 unique311 yes Mar 15 11:52:57 those are the cards Mar 15 11:53:02 the internal and external Mar 15 11:53:08 2 Removable Disks Mar 15 11:53:10 yes Mar 15 11:53:13 yes and Mar 15 11:53:19 figure the rest out Mar 15 11:53:25 i got issues over here Mar 15 11:53:34 my wiimote is still not being picked up Mar 15 11:53:35 lol Mar 15 11:53:38 one of them is accessible (/media/mmc2) thie is because it is FAT and windows can read it. the other partition says its not available - this is because its another file system that windows cannot understand Mar 15 11:53:59 lcuk yes exactly Mar 15 11:54:28 lcuk, he has a n800 Mar 15 11:54:36 so both should be recognize Mar 15 11:54:58 i dunno - on mine the 1st drive isnt available, but then again i dont ever use usb net anymore Mar 15 11:55:25 you are dual booting Mar 15 11:55:32 same over here.... Mar 15 11:55:48 im not dual booting.. Mar 15 11:55:53 strange Mar 15 11:56:01 i can enter to my mmc sdhc but can't find /media/mmc1/share....... Mar 15 11:56:12 lol Mar 15 11:56:29 iDS, media/mmc1 is the mounted device Mar 15 11:56:36 make a directory called share Mar 15 11:56:42 then go inside share Mar 15 11:56:48 and make a directory called sw Mar 15 11:56:54 oh so i must do it by myself Mar 15 11:56:59 yes Mar 15 11:57:07 i thought it was before Mar 15 11:57:09 i got it Mar 15 12:11:13 lcuk: I can't find the code any more :( Mar 15 12:16:03 its ok keesj, the one you pasted is more than enough Mar 15 12:16:25 i can see how it works now, thanks :) when i get back to it i know where it is Mar 15 12:16:44 bwt I was able to play flash webcam games under linux Mar 15 12:17:11 I am also full-time on mamona right now, Mar 15 12:17:57 lcuk Mar 15 12:18:11 yer.. Mar 15 12:18:32 do u have sw.grp, sw.rts? Mar 15 12:18:48 it is for Shadow Warrior Mar 15 12:18:52 are those diseases? you will have to give more context Mar 15 12:18:53 http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17420 Mar 15 12:18:57 ahhh now Mar 15 12:18:58 no Mar 15 12:20:24 where can i find it/? Mar 15 12:22:23 http://www.3drealms.com/downloads.html here/? Mar 15 12:22:27 but which one? Mar 15 12:24:18 without knowing the software i would assume you get the main shareware episode - this usually gives the maps and graphics and files required Mar 15 12:25:11 oh Mar 15 12:25:39 i downloaded v1.2 Shareware Episode (12987k) Mar 15 12:25:54 but it hasn't sw.grp, sw.rts files? Mar 15 12:26:02 just an exe file Mar 15 12:26:03 ????? Mar 15 12:26:37 yes, its a compressed file - it needs installing - ive just done it myself - once installed you have the files you need inside your c:\sb folder Mar 15 12:27:10 so you will need a windows machine or a dosbox or similar to fire it up Mar 15 12:27:22 c:\sw ^ Mar 15 12:27:51 oh yes Mar 15 12:28:46 im not sure what other things are needed - you can try and fly on your own now - im not into gaming yet on this device so wont be continuing... Mar 15 12:29:38 :) Mar 15 12:30:05 can u give them now? Mar 15 12:30:20 downloaded v1.2 Shareware Episode (12987k) and then find these files there Mar 15 12:30:27 sw.grp, sw.rts Mar 15 12:31:13 lcuk listen Mar 15 12:31:33 if i add sw.grp, sw.rts to my share / sw then tha game can play? Mar 15 12:31:54 * lcuk makes himself clear Mar 15 12:32:11 ? Mar 15 12:32:37 *i don't know, ive just identified where the files you want are - im not a gamer anymore and havent messed about installing stuff for ages and im not going back to it now* Mar 15 12:32:56 ok Mar 15 12:45:59 ummm Mar 15 12:48:13 what is Tapwave Zodiac? Mar 15 12:48:33 isn't that an old palm device? Mar 15 12:48:59 ummm yes maybe Mar 15 12:49:01 palmos yes Mar 15 12:49:54 it was at one point a pretty good emu platform Mar 15 12:49:59 the game can't open :( Mar 15 12:50:28 i made share/duke3d in my sdhc Mar 15 12:50:50 then move .grp to there Mar 15 12:50:50 and install Mar 15 12:50:54 .deb file Mar 15 12:51:04 i can only see the icon in my extra files Mar 15 12:51:14 guide please Mar 15 12:51:35 funf ojro bitte Mar 15 12:52:05 \ Mar 15 12:52:08 ? Mar 15 13:23:23 qwerty12, the vmcontents folder is deprecated Mar 15 13:55:55 The Map/Navicore free trial, how long does it last? Mar 15 14:03:35 7 days - unfortunately, the gps takes 8 days to connect, so it just looks pretty and says "please connect gps" Mar 15 14:03:40 ;) Mar 15 14:03:48 :) Mar 15 14:03:57 that gps is pretty slow Mar 15 14:04:21 i got my N810 yesterday.. still havent gotten any 'fix' on my location Mar 15 14:04:31 well, i have time :) Mar 15 14:04:32 :> Mar 15 14:04:41 when i get lost i find its quicker for me to drive back home fire up google earth and discover where i was meant to be than switch on 810 and use it Mar 15 14:05:02 lcuk: you don't use maemo mapper? Mar 15 14:05:18 i would use any mapper i could, but the gps wont connect so its useless Mar 15 14:05:25 i just hope that its something to do with sw so they can fix it. put most propably it also hw issue Mar 15 14:05:30 but it can precache maps Mar 15 14:05:48 at all zoom levels Mar 15 14:05:53 :) Mar 15 14:06:01 KotCzarny, if the GPS doesn't get a fix it doesn't matter Mar 15 14:06:02 i can buy an a-z for £2, i wanted live position to help if we are *lost*, if we can find ourselves in a map without gps i might as well not have it Mar 15 14:06:21 johnx: but he fired google maps for that Mar 15 14:06:23 didn't he? Mar 15 14:06:38 eh? Mar 15 14:06:41 i was being pedantic, if i am lost how tf can i get home Mar 15 14:07:31 unless he meant something else with his sentence Mar 15 14:07:32 :) Mar 15 14:07:54 lcuk: agreed Mar 15 14:08:02 wom-: leave it at a window for a half hour or so? supposedly it's faster after first fix Mar 15 14:08:21 * sp3000 finds it has its good days and bad Mar 15 14:08:41 sp3000: hopefully it has its good day today.. at my window :) Mar 15 14:08:57 but i have it in the window in the car - my other gps connected from my pocket wherever i was in enough time to feel like its calculating lots but not that its fucked itself Mar 15 14:09:01 leaving any electronic device in the sun.. Mar 15 14:09:06 it's a kind of torture? Mar 15 14:09:06 ;) Mar 15 14:09:12 get the fix or fry! Mar 15 14:09:51 heh Mar 15 14:10:09 fabulous secret powers were revealed to me the day I held aloft my magic n810 and said "by the power of nokia" Mar 15 14:10:26 and then thunder struck you Mar 15 14:10:50 and you didn't found out the location anyway Mar 15 14:10:57 at least i could get a fix on my location - ill just search weather.com for thunderstorms from my hospital bed Mar 15 14:11:08 or ask a nurse Mar 15 14:11:21 good nurses don't talk with their mouths full Mar 15 14:11:35 there's possibility there are few of them Mar 15 14:11:44 lcuk, too much internet... :) Mar 15 14:11:49 :D Mar 15 14:12:26 mind you, knowing my look she will be a 27 stone wallrus matron and not at all like i am thinking Mar 15 14:12:38 :) Mar 15 14:12:47 is that better than nothing? Mar 15 14:12:59 erm, not, probably Mar 15 14:13:00 ;) Mar 15 14:13:04 :D Mar 15 14:14:13 * lcuk shrugs shoulders Mar 15 14:14:16 where i have seen the link.. Mar 15 14:14:18 ah, yes Mar 15 14:14:18 * lcuk rolls matron in flour and heads for the wet bit Mar 15 14:14:19 http://imagechan.net/img/5093/Suicide/ Mar 15 14:14:23 sexy losers roolez Mar 15 14:14:24 ;) Mar 15 14:14:50 HAHAHAHA Mar 15 14:15:01 hahahahaha Mar 15 14:15:06 awesome Mar 15 14:15:08 it's quite old Mar 15 14:15:17 i'm amazed you don't know sexy losers Mar 15 14:15:18 :) Mar 15 14:15:43 * aquatix too Mar 15 14:15:49 thankfully i dont normally visit the chans - i was a bit worried by the link Mar 15 14:15:51 maybe i did, but i surf too much Mar 15 14:16:12 http://sexylosers.com/ Mar 15 14:16:13 here Mar 15 14:16:41 wtf: http://imagechan.com/img.php?id=5095 Mar 15 14:17:18 internet - something for everyone Mar 15 14:17:19 yeah, that superman lock (reversed) Mar 15 14:17:20 ah yes, i knew sexylozers Mar 15 14:17:23 just remembered :) Mar 15 14:17:29 * johnx kries Mar 15 14:17:39 :> Mar 15 14:18:01 must. not. click. links. in. irc. O_o Mar 15 14:18:12 hahaha Mar 15 14:18:12 too late. Mar 15 14:18:14 ;) Mar 15 14:18:19 johnx: which? Mar 15 14:18:34 probably young yoda Mar 15 14:18:35 that last imagechan link, with yoda Mar 15 14:18:52 weird with the sex he is Mar 15 14:28:03 ... Mar 15 14:28:09 Some fag spammed the buy/sell forum Mar 15 14:28:18 ban him? Mar 15 14:38:28 hey dont say fag. thats not right. Mar 15 14:38:38 say fudgepusher. Mar 15 14:39:03 don't say fudgepusher. i like cream fudges. Mar 15 14:39:07 say fag. Mar 15 14:39:08 :) Mar 15 14:39:55 crap my dog has fleas. i hate shedding season. Mar 15 14:41:19 Luria, login to your cat and run "sudo apt-get install frontline" Mar 15 14:41:33 my cat? Mar 15 14:41:40 :) Mar 15 14:41:42 * Luria doesnt do cat Mar 15 14:41:57 ^dog lol Mar 15 14:41:58 damn Mar 15 14:42:05 * Luria does less Mar 15 14:42:07 same process :P Mar 15 14:42:15 sometimes more. Mar 15 14:42:37 already did biospot, btw :-) Mar 15 14:43:03 we have cats here and in summer its bad - thankfully its still cold out Mar 15 14:43:56 its either now or end of summer. shibas, like all primitive dogs and wolves blow their coat. it seems to be bad around then. Mar 15 14:45:20 if the cycle isnt broken it stays - normally now at first sign of fleas we do a full cull. the first year we didnt and it was bad Mar 15 14:45:42 lcuk: is it outdoor cat? Mar 15 14:45:51 * lcuk blames the lady cats on the street for giving my cats stds Mar 15 14:45:53 yer they are Mar 15 14:46:18 so you're partly responsible too Mar 15 14:46:19 :) Mar 15 14:46:36 no, they had their balls chopped off but that doesnt stop them from going out to play Mar 15 14:46:44 hehehe Mar 15 14:46:55 no kitty kondoms? Mar 15 14:47:35 its more the hugging and post coital snuggle that gets the transfer Mar 15 14:48:07 hehe Mar 15 14:48:08 yeah, well, you can get fiv from kissing :-) Mar 15 14:48:24 if i keep the cats inside its even more worrysome - whilst they dont give each other diseases it just doesnt look right when they are affectionate to each other lol Mar 15 14:48:52 pfft, humans. Mar 15 14:48:53 ;) Mar 15 14:49:09 record it, sell it to internet furries, you'll get over it once you get cash. Mar 15 14:49:45 he will have to paint them every few days Mar 15 14:49:47 hot pussy on pussy action Mar 15 14:49:51 to keep the money coming Mar 15 14:50:33 ooh, purple cats Mar 15 14:50:42 purple pussies even :) Mar 15 14:50:46 i keep pondering whether to give one of them a line cut - hes long haired - but i dont think he would forgive me Mar 15 14:51:01 ghehehe Mar 15 14:51:04 meh cats. Mar 15 14:51:47 lcuk: give him emo pills, he will cut himself Mar 15 14:51:48 ;) Mar 15 14:52:27 :( no - hes sweet and nice Mar 15 14:52:35 and has stds Mar 15 14:52:36 ;) Mar 15 14:52:46 http://www.flickr.com/photos/guccibear2005/455244296/ Mar 15 14:53:00 (not my pussy) Mar 15 14:53:04 it's all furry! Mar 15 14:53:36 what do you guys think of the portrait mode? Mar 15 14:53:44 haha Mar 15 14:53:49 love the text Mar 15 14:53:49 is that something you would like to see more? Mar 15 14:54:13 konttori: yes, fixed theme Mar 15 14:54:20 as in screenmshots Mar 15 14:54:21 :> Mar 15 14:54:34 umm.. what do you mean with fixed theme? Mar 15 14:54:49 theme i'm using is broken Mar 15 14:54:50 do you mean the left side menu it what? Mar 15 14:54:55 nope Mar 15 14:54:56 top Mar 15 14:54:56 a theme modified to be used in portrait mode i gues Mar 15 14:55:04 s Mar 15 14:55:19 * aquatix should hack his n810 to do portrait too Mar 15 14:55:27 it's really easy Mar 15 14:55:38 and really nice to use for many apps. Mar 15 14:55:40 but not all Mar 15 14:55:56 agreed, it's really nice for a couple websites Mar 15 14:56:28 a portrait mode calculator might be nice too, with nice big buttons Mar 15 14:56:31 portrait mode would benice Mar 15 14:56:34 be nice* Mar 15 14:56:39 iphone.anything.com comes to mind as well Mar 15 14:56:53 yeah. indeed Mar 15 14:57:01 it would be nice if it would change to portrait automatically when tilting device Mar 15 14:57:19 its kinda of hard to read web pages with landscape mode Mar 15 14:57:19 wom-: device doesn't have accelerometers Mar 15 14:57:23 I would also like it if coffee came out the headphone jack Mar 15 14:57:29 hmm Mar 15 14:57:31 konttori: well, but maybe in the future :) Mar 15 14:57:32 oh, lol Mar 15 14:57:37 lol Mar 15 14:57:40 something is b0rken Mar 15 14:57:52 i mean screenshot app Mar 15 14:57:56 in portrait mode Mar 15 14:57:56 :> Mar 15 14:58:21 I used something to take a portrait screenshot the other day Mar 15 14:58:34 system load plugin? Mar 15 14:58:35 screenshot-tool from the CLI I think Mar 15 14:58:35 http://mrrau.dyndns.org:23280/n800/mydesktop-portraitmode.pngx Mar 15 14:58:53 KotCzarny: delete the x ;) Mar 15 14:58:53 nice Mar 15 14:58:58 the left part is correct Mar 15 14:59:02 http://mrrau.dyndns.org:23280/n800/mydesktop-portraitmode.png Mar 15 14:59:03 :) Mar 15 14:59:12 that's impressively broken Mar 15 14:59:16 but right is probably some random memory dump Mar 15 14:59:18 heh, nice Mar 15 14:59:49 screenshot in portrait mode? Mar 15 14:59:56 yes Mar 15 14:59:59 Can anyone remember where the scratchbox Vala compiler debs were? Mar 15 15:00:01 *g* Mar 15 15:00:41 on the left side you see hovewer how does the themed statusbar look Mar 15 15:00:51 you could use the webcam to view different motions Mar 15 15:01:10 background has fixed position Mar 15 15:01:15 keesj: that will drain your battery i guess Mar 15 15:01:20 keesj: too much cpu cycles Mar 15 15:01:26 I have seen some google or nokia project I think that do that Mar 15 15:02:18 *many Mar 15 15:02:30 if you are so convinced it must be a great idea Mar 15 15:02:47 well, e.g. fullscreen kb could toggle between fullscreen landscape -> fullscreen portrait -> normal screen (landscape) Mar 15 15:02:51 i can just click in status bar and rotate it myself Mar 15 15:02:54 yes, myt N810 got gps fix.. sp3000 was right. at the window and half an hour :) Mar 15 15:03:28 now i know that i am at home :P Mar 15 15:03:32 heh Mar 15 15:03:42 no, your nokia is at home Mar 15 15:03:43 :P Mar 15 15:03:55 you don't have gps receiver embedded Mar 15 15:03:56 ..yet Mar 15 15:04:51 wom-: there might be a wormhole between you and your nokia Mar 15 15:05:04 everything is possible Mar 15 15:05:14 however i am pretty sure that me and device are both at home :) Mar 15 15:05:16 exactly Mar 15 15:05:19 unless it's forbidden by physics Mar 15 15:05:19 heheh Mar 15 15:05:20 :) Mar 15 15:05:25 it's all relative Mar 15 15:05:34 KotCzarny: then still... Mar 15 15:05:39 nope. Mar 15 15:05:52 and i mean REAL physics, not CURRENT physics Mar 15 15:05:52 :) Mar 15 15:05:59 well, depends whether you talk about our understanding of physics, of the real deal Mar 15 15:06:06 'xactly ;) Mar 15 15:06:23 well, anyway. gps has fix :) Mar 15 15:06:28 nice Mar 15 15:06:31 'to have a fix' Mar 15 15:06:34 that's not good Mar 15 15:06:36 time for you to have one too ;) Mar 15 15:06:36 i think Mar 15 15:06:36 ;) Mar 15 15:06:42 haha Mar 15 15:07:05 ok, i will get that with code.. back to eclipse Mar 15 15:39:55 Internet Tablet Video Converter can't read h264 :( Mar 15 15:40:07 how can i convert this file? Mar 15 15:40:17 use any other converter Mar 15 15:40:39 i tried to convert it to other file like mp4 Mar 15 15:40:56 but it will be slow and smoth Mar 15 15:41:02 smooth Mar 15 15:41:20 that doesn't make sense Mar 15 15:42:59 i have tvc Mar 15 15:44:49 question Mar 15 15:44:56 default keys for n770 Mar 15 15:44:59 http://maemomm.garage.maemo.org/docs/tutorial/html/ch02s03.html Mar 15 15:45:41 on the n800 the key above the drop down menu key, what key even is it? Mar 15 15:45:58 L^ Mar 15 15:46:04 it sends 'esc' Mar 15 15:46:11 ok Mar 15 15:46:14 F? Mar 15 15:46:27 so its ESC Mar 15 15:46:35 not an F key Mar 15 15:46:45 like f6 f7 f8 Mar 15 15:47:11 no, esc Mar 15 15:47:25 I seem to have lost animated ui icons Mar 15 15:47:31 * sp3000 wonders who ate them Mar 15 15:47:34 KotCzarny, thanks ya kindly Mar 15 15:47:38 * sp3000 installed some stuff recently Mar 15 15:47:41 unique: np Mar 15 15:47:59 :0 Mar 15 15:48:06 one can see esc as F0 Mar 15 15:48:12 when looking at regular kb Mar 15 15:48:12 (battery charging, indeterminate progress spinner in banners) Mar 15 15:48:13 :> Mar 15 15:48:21 ummmmmmmmmmm Mar 15 15:48:29 anyone have good fix for this dbus machine id error that appears from nowhere. restart helps but thats quite bad way. Mar 15 15:48:34 n800 can find WIFI yes Mar 15 15:48:46 connect to wifi ? Mar 15 15:48:47 i am testing some dbus stuff.. coding sender and receiver Mar 15 15:48:58 ids: how old are you? Mar 15 15:49:00 iDS, dude Mar 15 15:49:05 hehe Mar 15 15:49:07 :D Mar 15 15:49:08 yes yes and more yes Mar 15 15:49:10 cos Mar 15 15:49:24 i am thinking to buy a WIFI adaptor Mar 15 15:49:40 iDS, yes, you should buy a wifi router Mar 15 15:49:55 it will make your life a lot simpler and it will work great with the n800 Mar 15 15:50:08 it will add with usb to my pc and can share my adsl to my n800 Mar 15 15:50:12 (and ours too) Mar 15 15:50:14 is it a good idea yeah? Mar 15 15:50:21 yes Mar 15 15:50:36 you're using adsl right now. Is the adsl modem plugged directly into your computer, or into a router? Mar 15 15:50:55 my adsl is ethernet Mar 15 15:51:21 yes my adsl is plugged directly into my pc Mar 15 15:52:40 johnx did u found a way for my usc connect? Mar 15 15:52:44 usb Mar 15 15:53:24 iDS, you can read up on it here: http://maemo.org/community/wiki/USBnetworkingWinXP/ Mar 15 15:53:32 and more info here: http://maemo.org/community/wiki/usbnetworking/ Mar 15 15:54:57 but really, just get a wifi router. it will sit between your adsl modem and your computer. it will provide a firewall for your computer and give you wifi to use with your n800 Mar 15 15:55:34 thank u dear friend Mar 15 15:55:54 yes i am thinking to buy wifi router as soon as possible Mar 15 15:56:02 get a Linksys WRT54GL if you can find one Mar 15 15:56:12 that's what I have. it works great. Mar 15 15:56:31 :D Mar 15 15:56:32 how does someone named ids need help with firewalls? Mar 15 15:56:57 http://www.mobilelinuxinfo.com/515/nokia-n810-price-drop/ Mar 15 15:56:58 lol? Mar 15 15:56:59 thats like teaching a guy named mr. fisch to swim Mar 15 15:59:02 lol Mar 15 15:59:10 bestbuy lists n810 as a 'unlocked phone' Mar 15 16:00:14 thats very common Mar 15 16:01:07 talk time: up to 4h Mar 15 16:01:09 lol Mar 15 16:01:18 phone style: slide phone Mar 15 16:01:19 :) Mar 15 16:01:35 vibrate mode: yes Mar 15 16:01:36 ? Mar 15 16:01:37 O.o Mar 15 16:02:01 See the manual page for dbus-uuidgen to correct this issue. D-Bus not built with -rdynamic so unable to print a backtrace Mar 15 16:02:03 phonebook: no Mar 15 16:02:03 I guess they have a template with a randomize button on it for those Mar 15 16:02:05 ehehe Mar 15 16:02:11 any ideas? :) Mar 15 16:02:36 sp3000, I like to think they actually have a wheel-of-fortune style thing going. :D Mar 15 16:02:44 dbus says it can't read machine-id .. Mar 15 16:02:59 suggested accessories: Go-Sim - Prepaid Pay-As-You-Go International SIM Card Mar 15 16:03:01 ehehehe Mar 15 16:03:25 (and a phone to put it in...) Mar 15 16:03:47 nope. Mar 15 16:03:53 no phones as an accessory Mar 15 16:03:54 :) Mar 15 16:03:56 * johnx pictures someone trying to wedge a sim into the internal sd card slot Mar 15 16:06:49 is there a master list of apps available with short descriptions? browsing ITT is like trying to walk straight in a sandstorm, its a mess like no other Mar 15 16:06:53 johnx are on games? Mar 15 16:07:02 cpt. yes Mar 15 16:07:06 try maemo.org Mar 15 16:07:07 :) Mar 15 16:07:35 iDS, not really. Mar 15 16:07:46 Cptnodegard, it's a mess like many other forums. :) Mar 15 16:08:08 ummm i install shadow walker dome... today Mar 15 16:08:19 many others, but its still way in the lead :O Mar 15 16:08:21 so? Mar 15 16:08:23 but it didn't work Mar 15 16:08:47 i made a folder called share then sd into that Mar 15 16:08:55 sorry, I don't know anything about it. Mar 15 16:09:03 and I should get some sleep, too Mar 15 16:09:07 yes :( Mar 15 16:09:07 'night all Mar 15 16:09:11 nah Mar 15 16:09:15 it's noon Mar 15 16:09:16 :) Mar 15 16:09:16 bye friend Mar 15 16:09:20 good night Mar 15 16:09:26 good luck iDS :) Mar 15 16:09:29 [17:07] try maemo.org <- yei! :D Mar 15 16:09:38 thank u :D Mar 15 16:09:56 KotCzarny, noon is a perfectly good time to sleep. Also, you should google for "Irc time" :P Mar 15 16:09:59 * johnx sleeps Mar 15 16:10:04 agreed Mar 15 16:15:12 how is on internet tablet games here? Mar 15 16:18:45 really no? impossible Mar 15 16:22:52 iDS: how old are you? Mar 15 16:25:15 24 Mar 15 16:25:20 O.o Mar 15 16:25:30 :" Mar 15 16:25:38 for god i bought my n800 yesterday Mar 15 16:25:43 you talk more like 14 Mar 15 16:25:48 hey guys i am new one here Mar 15 16:25:57 KotCzarny, don't be an asshole. Mar 15 16:26:02 i don't know more about it Mar 15 16:26:03 navi, then help him Mar 15 16:26:08 so i need more guide Mar 15 16:26:08 i tried Mar 15 16:26:10 i m 1 5 y o u c a n t e l l b y t h e w a y I w r i t e :P Mar 15 16:26:21 lol Mar 15 16:26:22 Go easy on non-native speakers KotCzarny Mar 15 16:26:28 qwerty12: no, you are not. no caps in there ;) Mar 15 16:26:37 Lol, MY BAD :P Mar 15 16:26:37 pupnik: i tried Mar 15 16:26:40 KotCzarny, he has a chinese IP Mar 15 16:26:41 @iDS what are you trying to set up exactly? Mar 15 16:26:49 navi: nope Mar 15 16:26:55 it's iran i think Mar 15 16:27:08 at least that's what whois db returns Mar 15 16:27:19 x-chat lists Persia Mar 15 16:27:26 not /whois Mar 15 16:27:31 shell whois Mar 15 16:27:31 :) Mar 15 16:27:36 nope, just right click :) Mar 15 16:27:39 iDS: there are some games that play well on the tablets Mar 15 16:28:01 But they're not really designed for games. Mar 15 16:28:07 pupnik: i'm not native speaker too Mar 15 16:28:09 :) Mar 15 16:28:14 does it matter where someone is from ? ids, your n800, does it have the latest os2008 on it, or does it still have os2007? Mar 15 16:28:59 pupnik yes Mar 15 16:29:11 i installed shadow walker dome... today Mar 15 16:29:25 installed deb files on my n800 os2008 Mar 15 16:29:37 gtk question here. when i change gtk.settings for say cursor-theme-name does ichange immediatly Mar 15 16:29:48 and made a folder called share and then sw for that on my mmmc sdhc Mar 15 16:30:10 Lol, true, I'm from London. Although you cannot tell by the way I type, I'm a fully native English speaker. @ iDS. sorry for not keeping up but what is your problem? shadow warrior works fine for me on N800 OS2008 Mar 15 16:32:27 navi: and before calling other people assholes try to do something yourself Mar 15 16:32:31 then judge Mar 15 16:33:32 ok this is my final nick :D Mar 15 16:33:35 Italodance: does shadow warrior play on your tablet? Mar 15 16:33:58 Final nick hey? Mar 15 16:34:04 :P Mar 15 16:34:26 yeah Mar 15 16:34:33 You cheated :P Mar 15 16:35:01 i forgot the old one password Mar 15 16:37:57 someone knows a good converter for h264 to other formats? Mar 15 16:38:13 Linux/Windows? Mar 15 16:38:31 ffmpeg Mar 15 16:38:42 win Mar 15 16:39:08 There's super & mediabox & like Navi says, ffmpeg Mar 15 16:39:31 Italodance: you're italian? Mar 15 16:42:29 no Mar 15 16:42:41 u? Mar 15 16:50:19 1 question Mar 15 16:50:27 how can i do with mplayer_1.0rc1-maemo.24.n8x0.diff.gz? Mar 15 16:50:32 what is this file? Mar 15 16:51:22 not much. why do you want the gz? get the deb Mar 15 16:51:25 also 24 is old Mar 15 16:51:31 .25 is the latest Mar 15 16:51:43 totally what is it? Mar 15 16:51:46 I correct myself, a developer can do a lot with the gz Mar 15 16:51:52 It's a patch Mar 15 16:51:57 To do what I have no idea Mar 15 16:51:57 i wanted to install mplayer https://garage.maemo.org/frs/?group_id=54&release_id=1338 Mar 15 16:52:08 so i need only .deb file for install? Mar 15 16:52:15 grab the .install file instead Mar 15 16:52:20 and run it on the device Mar 15 16:52:32 i don't have internet on my n800 yet Mar 15 16:53:40 http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/chinook/free/m/mplayer/mplayer_1.0rc1-maemo.25.n8x0_armel.deb Mar 15 16:53:45 Install that instead Mar 15 16:53:48 Newer anyway Mar 15 16:55:19 it needs user and password for download/??? Mar 15 16:55:30 No it doesnt Mar 15 16:55:46 Authorization Required Mar 15 16:55:48 This server could not verify that you are authorized to access the document requested. Either you supplied the wrong credentials (e.g., bad password), or your browser doesn't understand how to supply the credentials required. Mar 15 16:55:48 ?????/ Mar 15 16:55:51 Not for me Mar 15 16:56:01 can u send it to me please? Mar 15 16:56:08 here now Mar 15 16:56:12 How, I don't use irc much and no idea on how to send Mar 15 16:56:26 ok tell me Mar 15 16:56:33 click on my nick Mar 15 16:56:36 1100100101101011010111011011 Mar 15 16:56:37 maybe his isp filters web for him Mar 15 16:56:40 and right click Mar 15 16:56:44 110101101101010111101010101 Mar 15 16:56:49 should i continue sending? Mar 15 16:56:53 dcc>send Mar 15 16:56:58 :> Mar 15 16:56:59 1 sec Mar 15 16:57:14 lcuk: keep your nerves tight :> Mar 15 16:57:16 ok Mar 15 16:57:17 resend Mar 15 16:57:32 or navi will call you bad name Mar 15 16:57:33 ;) Mar 15 16:57:39 lol Mar 15 16:57:44 my internet is slow in linux btw Mar 15 16:58:01 tnx so it is full and don't need other things for co-install? Mar 15 16:58:08 Italodance, which link gives you authorization errors? Mar 15 16:58:14 it shouldn't do Mar 15 16:58:19 It didnt on my N800 Mar 15 16:58:24 my bet it's his isp Mar 15 16:58:33 lcuk all in http://repository.maemo.org Mar 15 16:58:46 @KotCzarny probably is. If he is in Persia, a lot of Muslim countries censor internet a bit Mar 15 16:58:56 but to filter .debs? Mar 15 16:58:57 :> Mar 15 16:58:59 nono Mar 15 16:59:04 now that will be weird Mar 15 16:59:05 :) Mar 15 16:59:08 i have access to everythings Mar 15 16:59:13 its not so much censorship, its just inktomi Mar 15 16:59:35 * qwerty12 googles inktomi Mar 15 16:59:35 it needs password here and i don't know why Mar 15 16:59:46 who is from maemo website here? Mar 15 16:59:58 are you under proxy? my school's proxy fails at getting tar files Mar 15 17:03:12 qwerty12 Mar 15 17:03:25 yeah? :) Mar 15 17:03:32 it needs libmad0 liboggo Mar 15 17:03:42 Let me find those debs Mar 15 17:03:44 and libtheora0 Mar 15 17:03:52 please send them too Mar 15 17:04:43 Ok, I got those debs. Any other requirements? Mar 15 17:05:09 no just these Mar 15 17:05:18 skeen, I'm starting to send Mar 15 17:05:57 ok and? Mar 15 17:06:48 tnx 1 min please Mar 15 17:06:58 http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2008/03/sheep_stomach_lamp.html?CMP=OTC-0D6B48984890 Mar 15 17:06:59 :> Mar 15 17:07:19 wtf :P Mar 15 17:07:35 lol, I'd feel sick carrying that around Mar 15 17:08:03 :) Mar 15 17:09:03 Hmm, I have a sheep's stomach lying around, make this or make haggis? Hmm... :P Mar 15 17:10:12 Bucket seal is dead :/ Mar 15 17:11:47 damn noone of them couldn't install on my n800 anmd said incompatible appilcation package Mar 15 17:12:36 Try putting the application manager into redpill mode Mar 15 17:13:04 redpill mode where and how? Mar 15 17:13:24 Go to "Tools > Application catalogue", click "New", enter "matrix" into the "Web Address" field, click "Cancel". Choosing the red pill will activate the red pill mode, obviously, and chosing the blue one will deactivate it. Mar 15 17:13:31 Do that in application manager Mar 15 17:13:46 ok 1 min Mar 15 17:14:03 I got the debs from extras-devel/chinook (which is OS2008). I don't know if the -devel bit makes a difference Mar 15 17:22:18 :) Mar 15 17:22:31 pupnik, i can't respond on pm anyway Mar 15 17:22:43 i kno Mar 15 18:25:41 pupnik, the lolrus has been dead for a while now :( Mar 15 18:26:51 yeah i just found out Mar 15 18:27:32 was a sad day for all Mar 15 18:44:44 hi folks, after apt-get upgrade in my scratchbox ARM target, I run gst-inspect-0.10, and I get: "qemu: uncaught target signal 6 (Aborted) - exiting". What is going wrong? Mar 15 18:45:01 dsp is not emulated Mar 15 18:45:02 i think Mar 15 18:45:19 was it working before? Mar 15 18:45:40 KotCzarny, yes... I was working before... Mar 15 18:45:44 hmm Mar 15 18:45:46 hi, lol, i got the same question, want to compile a MaemoKernel module and i get "qemu: uncaught target signal 4 (Illegal instruction) - exiting" after apt-get update Mar 15 18:45:47 it was working before Mar 15 18:45:50 maybe some default changed Mar 15 18:46:08 KotCzarny, any clue? Mar 15 18:46:12 nope Mar 15 18:46:21 that was only my guess Mar 15 18:46:48 I will try to logout and login again Mar 15 18:47:08 you can reinstall sb in the worst case Mar 15 18:47:08 ;) Mar 15 18:47:09 since I apt-get upgrade, maybe something needs to be reloaded Mar 15 18:47:42 yes... I will try this too. But if try to reinstall sb, do I have to run apt-get upgrade again? Mar 15 18:47:58 why should you? Mar 15 18:48:47 ok.. Mar 15 18:48:48 :) Mar 15 18:48:54 ;) Mar 15 18:49:11 i know why, it was more like rethorical question Mar 15 18:51:46 KotCzarny, yes! this is the case! Mar 15 18:51:53 hm? Mar 15 18:51:58 which one? Mar 15 18:52:25 second one! :) Mar 15 18:52:55 name it Mar 15 18:53:02 for the future reference Mar 15 18:53:03 :) Mar 15 18:53:40 the question that I ask if do I have to rerun apt-get upgrade Mar 15 18:54:05 lol Mar 15 18:54:15 i'm glad it helped Mar 15 18:54:23 i meant something else though ;) Mar 15 18:59:02 infobot: what's my maemo bugzilla password? Mar 15 19:00:16 what is the reason that apt-get does not work with a selected target arm in scratchbox ? do i miss something, i play exatcly the tutorial Mar 15 19:00:41 bad repos ? Mar 15 19:00:52 bad arch? Mar 15 19:00:58 KotCzarny: no sound more like no network Mar 15 19:01:04 :> Mar 15 19:01:32 KotCzarny: i use http://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/4-x/kernel_guide_for_maemo.html step by step Mar 15 19:01:49 eep, is bugzilla unhappy? Mar 15 19:01:49 and it fail on getting Kernel sources :( Mar 15 19:03:02 sp3000: fill a bug about bugzilla? :> Mar 15 19:03:09 ;) Mar 15 19:03:26 oh, wait, you have to be registered, *grin* Mar 15 19:03:27 (; Mar 15 19:05:17 grumble Mar 15 19:05:39 I try to comment on and cc to a bug and it's all DBD::mysql::db do failed: Access denied for user: 'maemobugs@10.5.7.11' to database 'maemobugs' at /usr/share/perl5/Bugzilla/DB/Mysql.pm line 196 Mar 15 19:05:51 that's inconvenient Mar 15 19:05:58 :> Mar 15 19:06:14 someone broke something Mar 15 19:06:15 ;) Mar 15 19:06:33 and unless maemobugs is your user then it's not you Mar 15 19:06:33 (; Mar 15 19:12:56 when did it break? Mar 15 19:22:20 anyone can tell me how long it takes to start emacs in n810? Mar 15 19:23:16 sure they can, once it's finished starting :P Mar 15 19:26:30 Hi everyone, i have just developed the first weather mojo for mojocafe.de..... you can view a preview how it looks like on the n800 at this address: http://www.mojocafe.de/pr/weather_v1.jpg Mar 15 19:26:49 If you have any wishes how a weather mojo should look like, get in contact with me at mojocafe.de Mar 15 19:31:02 how do you register? Mar 15 19:32:14 navi: simply enter your mail and then you will get a password sent Mar 15 19:32:40 but if you want me first to develop a mojo that you would prefer then just register when you think that you would like to :) Mar 15 19:32:52 ... and that mojo is ready for you to use! Mar 15 19:36:54 cyberholic: preview doesn't fit Mar 15 19:37:24 Kot: what do you mean? Mar 15 19:37:37 set your browser to 900px for example Mar 15 19:37:41 go to browse mojos Mar 15 19:37:44 see for yourself Mar 15 19:37:45 :) Mar 15 19:40:09 ah... now i know what you mean. the page is optimized for 1024x768.... that main page is only to use on desktop pcs.... if you visit the same url, a javscript sends you to a special view for your n800 device Mar 15 19:40:22 nah Mar 15 19:40:26 i view it with my pc Mar 15 19:40:35 what screen resolution do you have? Mar 15 19:40:38 i just don't do 'full screen' Mar 15 19:40:42 1024x768 Mar 15 19:40:54 you dont need to go fullscreen... mhhh... strange. Mar 15 19:41:05 but it should work regardles of window size Mar 15 19:41:15 otherwise it's .. erm Mar 15 19:41:16 ;) Mar 15 19:41:55 actually, i think its a really good idea. Mar 15 19:42:17 strange as you are the first one saying that. others could view the whole page withoug problem... ill check that in will be back in 10 mins Mar 15 19:42:29 i cant however put up with having to use a browser instead of allowing it to be a proper installed screensaver Mar 15 19:42:38 cyberholic: i don't like switching windows all the time Mar 15 19:42:39 lcuk: thnkx :) Mar 15 19:42:44 so my browser is 900x500 Mar 15 19:42:47 ive seen this evolve for a couple of months and think the mojo idea is great Mar 15 19:43:47 it's a flash, so you should % widths rather than pixels Mar 15 19:43:55 same goes to the whole html Mar 15 19:43:59 cyberholic, i would really like to use your software, do attempt to take your skill and instead of wasting it in actionscript bring it up to something else Mar 15 19:44:04 hell, it could be python Mar 15 19:45:16 (alternatively, if someone knows of a lightweight flash control/host then speak now Mar 15 19:45:31 animated screen saver? Mar 15 19:45:37 wasted batter Mar 15 19:45:39 y Mar 15 19:45:54 no, clock display Mar 15 19:46:01 calendar Mar 15 19:46:07 photo album Mar 15 19:46:09 isn't there any app that does it? Mar 15 19:46:19 the desktop for maemo is one thing, but this is fullscreen Mar 15 19:46:30 ah, ok Mar 15 19:46:39 shouldn't be a big problem Mar 15 19:46:41 to write one Mar 15 19:46:42 :) Mar 15 19:46:49 i dont want buttons around the sides or crap in the way - totally dark apart from a big clock would be perfect Mar 15 19:47:11 yes - but cyberholic has a good system already and can make variations and has users etc Mar 15 19:47:24 but he has flash only plugs Mar 15 19:47:24 why should we always reinvent the wheel? Mar 15 19:47:40 rewriting them for python/gtk would be writing them from scratch Mar 15 19:47:41 i guess Mar 15 19:47:52 or using parts of screensaver package Mar 15 19:48:07 or just port xscreensaver to hildon Mar 15 19:48:13 (ie. fullscreen) Mar 15 19:48:19 well then take a basic "dark" saver and use a flash plugin and everyones happy Mar 15 19:48:27 nope Mar 15 19:48:35 flash is not cpu friendly Mar 15 19:48:42 imo Mar 15 19:49:21 i think my idea will work Mar 15 19:49:31 compiling xss shouldn't be a problem Mar 15 19:49:45 adding 'go fullscreen' should be a few lines of code max Mar 15 19:50:46 curiously enough - adding fullscreen to x was more work than i thought it would be Mar 15 19:50:53 hehe Mar 15 19:51:01 (completely sidetracking) Mar 15 19:51:02 steal some mplayer code? Mar 15 19:51:10 or even fbreader code Mar 15 19:51:18 no, its around in numerous places Mar 15 19:51:27 still Mar 15 19:51:35 better this than reinventing the wheel Mar 15 19:51:36 :) Mar 15 19:51:46 yer Mar 15 19:52:06 i dont like #defines in code - it makes it so difficult to see Mar 15 19:52:11 hehe Mar 15 19:52:18 but easier to code ;) Mar 15 19:52:21 at first of course Mar 15 19:52:30 i would rather have myself at the centre and specific implimentations around me but with a nice api Mar 15 19:52:53 ahhh - ifdefs... not just defines Mar 15 19:53:00 define macros i adore Mar 15 20:15:17 man, I really wish there was a non-shit sip client Mar 15 20:23:32 doc|home: I know, I am having problems with the N800 sip client Mar 15 20:27:57 wtfbbq Mar 15 20:28:33 so if I uninstall free42 I lose charging and banner animations Mar 15 20:28:53 that's an ...interesting side-effect Mar 15 20:29:55 yay, got dejavu condensed on my tablet as the default font Mar 15 20:30:00 and installing it again fixes that Mar 15 20:30:26 now i just need to modify the theme to use it Mar 15 20:41:36 was there some nice theme repository for n810 Mar 15 20:42:16 was there any? Mar 15 20:42:17 :) Mar 15 20:46:45 or is there :) Mar 15 20:47:53 if you find it, let me know :> Mar 15 20:48:07 this n810 is kinda cool. laying on couch and ircing, and browsing web :) Mar 15 20:48:25 battery life could be better Mar 15 20:48:27 ;) Mar 15 20:48:42 but is good anyway Mar 15 20:49:06 i was just about to say that it has lasted whole day. of course not on active use all the time Mar 15 20:49:30 :) Mar 15 20:49:58 * sp3000 guesstimates it needs to gtk-update-icon-cache in postrm as well Mar 15 20:50:18 and reboot hildon ui? Mar 15 20:50:19 :) Mar 15 20:51:36 ok... i am back :) Mar 15 20:51:38 any idea where i get the keycodes for maemo as given by x keyboard events? Mar 15 20:51:45 xev Mar 15 20:51:57 no, that doesn't seem to be necessary, the same gtk-update-icon-cache -f /usr/share/icons/hicolor it does in postinst suffices Mar 15 20:52:14 now if bugzilla worked I could say so in a bug Mar 15 20:53:17 * sp3000 spams webhost@maemo as requested in the error msg Mar 15 20:53:24 ;) Mar 15 20:53:25 or did someone already? no need to flood I guess Mar 15 20:53:32 ,pimlico Mar 15 20:53:43 sending in 5 ... 4 Mar 15 20:53:50 kot - you mean from within the config file on maemo device? if so you wouldnt have a quick path would you? Mar 15 20:53:52 0 Mar 15 20:54:11 lcuk: xev shows any events it receives Mar 15 20:54:19 like key up/down, mouse moves/clicks Mar 15 20:54:31 scancodes and x key syms Mar 15 20:55:03 hey people i have read the discussion you had about my mojocafe project. There is one simple reason why i am using Flash: because i want to offer this kind of service also to PDA and PSP users and any other devices that has the flash plugin. Mar 15 20:55:11 but if you need hw keys just go there: http://maemomm.garage.maemo.org/docs/tutorial/html/ch02s03.html Mar 15 20:55:12 :P Mar 15 20:55:29 KotCzarny: http://gronmayer.com/it/ there is one theme repo. havent tried it yet Mar 15 20:55:55 cyberholic: c/gtk/sdl should be quite portable Mar 15 20:55:56 :) Mar 15 20:56:42 kot: on psp too? i don`t think that sony will ever allow that :) Mar 15 20:56:53 psp uses some kind of linux too i think Mar 15 20:56:53 kot, i really need the #include file where they are defined - its a bit convoluted on linux to open headers :S i miss having "goto definition" Mar 15 20:57:09 lcuk: aren't they hardwired? Mar 15 20:57:23 btw. see the link :P Mar 15 20:57:27 they shouldnt be - there should be a header file somewhere listing all the scancodes? Mar 15 20:57:33 i just did - they are gtk Mar 15 20:57:49 hildon is gtk Mar 15 20:57:50 gdk^ Mar 15 20:58:00 but i have an x window open Mar 15 20:58:11 and have an xevent Mar 15 20:58:21 my guess is they aren't named specifically Mar 15 20:58:24 and know its a keypress Mar 15 20:58:28 they just genereate F4 aetc. Mar 15 20:58:44 there has to be something like "xkey_f1" somewhere? Mar 15 20:58:53 XK_F1 Mar 15 20:58:58 i guess Mar 15 20:59:03 or KB_F1 Mar 15 20:59:13 exactly - but i cant find where they are defined or examples so i can search Mar 15 20:59:28 it's annoying how adblock means it takes 15-20 for the browser to start being useful Mar 15 20:59:42 lcuk: grep /usr/include for: _F10 Mar 15 20:59:50 the microb addin structure means its all parsed Mar 15 21:00:27 any other browsers available? Mar 15 21:00:31 use/include of where though - this is where problem number 2 occurs - there are about 10 include folders in all different linux branches everywhere around my vmware maemo distro thing Mar 15 21:00:45 lcuk: everything Mar 15 21:00:48 use mc for that Mar 15 21:00:49 ;) Mar 15 21:01:02 it has find string in a files recursively Mar 15 21:01:37 lcuk: Both vi and emacs support ctags. Mar 15 21:01:38 or just try grep _F10 * */* */*/* Mar 15 21:01:41 should be enough Mar 15 21:01:41 ;) Mar 15 21:02:47 * lcuk looks to the sky and for once actually thinks MS got something right in vb (before losing it again with .shit)... Mar 15 21:02:51 But you want /usr/include/X11/keysymdef.h Mar 15 21:03:00 ;) Mar 15 21:03:00 :D excellent Mar 15 21:03:18 * lcuk grabs the filename and runs gleefully into his linux jungle Mar 15 21:03:21 erm. using vb and 'right' in one sentence.. ? Mar 15 21:03:32 that's NOT right Mar 15 21:03:32 ;) Mar 15 21:03:42 100% kot - vb 6 IDE was almost perfect Mar 15 21:03:43 infobot: what's my garage login and password? Mar 15 21:03:55 then it's IDE not vb itself Mar 15 21:03:56 :> Mar 15 21:04:01 The visual studio IDE is actually pretty good, if you don't try to use the GUI builder crap, and don't mind it crashing all the time. Mar 15 21:04:11 And being really slow. Mar 15 21:04:18 And not parsing your code correctly. Mar 15 21:04:24 :> Mar 15 21:04:30 you are talking about the .net IDE - they went too far with it Mar 15 21:04:38 classic is betterer by miles Mar 15 21:04:52 The last one I used for any amount of time was MSVC6. Mar 15 21:04:52 and missing out on so many good ideas Mar 15 21:05:07 It was still really slow, and crashed a lot, and didn't parse my code correctly. Mar 15 21:05:18 (the .net ones actually have a much better parser, but crash even more) Mar 15 21:05:41 Of course, if you turn off all the IntelliSense crap, it becomes much more stable. Mar 15 21:05:48 And much more responsive. Mar 15 21:06:00 But then... why are you using the IDE instead of a text editor? Mar 15 21:06:08 :> Mar 15 21:06:41 i used to code entirely in cygnus ed Mar 15 21:07:35 cygnus ed was a powerapp :> Mar 15 21:07:38 it did what i wanted and was fast - right now im bearing anjuta - which in the vmware is painful Mar 15 21:07:48 pity i got my hands on c compiler only with linux/gcc Mar 15 21:07:57 cygnus ed had the fastest text rendering of almost any editor known to man Mar 15 21:08:03 I did not like anjuta. Mar 15 21:08:09 it was a bliss to work with Mar 15 21:08:13 have you tried mailing the authour about source code? Mar 15 21:08:29 These days I just use vim. Mar 15 21:08:34 it would be lovely, but the rendering speed came from its custom blitter code Mar 15 21:08:55 it was so hardcoded to the amiga from what i remember it wouldnt do it justice to have it outside planes Mar 15 21:09:02 :) Mar 15 21:09:21 * lcuk recognises skills like this Mar 15 21:09:32 somewhere along the way developers got lazy Mar 15 21:09:52 look ma, enough cycles Mar 15 21:09:53 ;) Mar 15 21:10:01 Lazy has little to do with it. Mar 15 21:10:11 vista and office both do the same... Mar 15 21:10:13 People operate at a different level of abstraction now. Mar 15 21:10:39 all you need is a library and you can abstract yourself Mar 15 21:10:42 diff lv of abst == no time/wantingness to do more than needed Mar 15 21:10:45 Text rendering is the responsibility of the terminal. Mar 15 21:10:59 gnome-terminal, for example, recently got much faster text rendering. Mar 15 21:11:09 because someone cared :) Mar 15 21:11:10 And this helped _all_ console applications. Mar 15 21:11:16 100% agree Mar 15 21:11:24 erm Mar 15 21:11:24 Well, it's a matter of resources. Mar 15 21:11:30 There are only so many developers. Mar 15 21:11:34 cygnused is selling for 45 EUR Mar 15 21:11:35 o.o Mar 15 21:11:45 http://www.vesalia.de/e_cygnused.htm Mar 15 21:11:45 same logic here though - take baby steps, if you can make something specific then you might be able to adapt it to the general case Mar 15 21:11:54 +shipping Mar 15 21:11:55 KotCzarny: Error: "shipping" is not a valid command. Mar 15 21:12:22 lcuk: You will often find more work goes into "adapting" code than when into writing it in the first place. Mar 15 21:12:58 tell me about it - i am maintaining code from before i started and even my own stuff from 8 years ago Mar 15 21:14:39 i think i'll stay with mcedit. Mar 15 21:14:40 :) Mar 15 21:15:03 i wonder what a tablet oriented editor could do Mar 15 21:15:17 mix of keyboard and strokes Mar 15 21:15:25 drag'n'drop programming? Mar 15 21:15:26 ;) Mar 15 21:15:32 i wonder what a tablet oriented porn site could do Mar 15 21:15:32 nahh - text editoing Mar 15 21:15:55 probably the same as a regular desktop porn site just with more tissues needed Mar 15 21:16:24 just DON'T lose your stylus Mar 15 21:17:09 hi Mar 15 21:44:12 hi Mar 15 21:50:25 sigh Mar 15 21:50:49 I totally gave garagge's tracker an url Mar 15 21:51:49 abd I sure don't see it anywhere in the report page Mar 15 21:51:51 and even Mar 15 21:56:34 oh, it doesn't linkify urls either Mar 15 21:56:42 how useful Mar 15 22:08:49 anyone present who has done python on maemo.. especially some dbus stuff? Mar 15 22:10:10 i have working sender <-> receiver stuff, just wondering how can i pass data from receiver to sender Mar 15 22:11:03 i am using rpc_async_run in sender and get callback nicely from receiver.. Mar 15 22:21:57 do the additional brightness levels to make the image brighter than the maximum level? Mar 15 22:22:07 who knows.. Mar 15 22:22:11 only source can tell Mar 15 22:30:56 isnt it rm_you thats wrote the backlight applet thingy? Mar 15 22:32:01 shackan - i dont think it goes brighter than max, but there are something like 128 steps available Mar 15 22:32:43 he was asking if regular 4 levels are going to the max Mar 15 22:33:05 like, what was the highest step brightness Mar 15 22:37:58 hey guys.. Mar 15 22:38:08 im calling tech support with my N800 (sip client) Mar 15 22:38:21 how do i press "1 for support"?.. its an IVR... Mar 15 22:38:42 you can try waiting it off.. Mar 15 22:38:52 already did.. :P Mar 15 22:39:54 no way to make the numbers stay visible?. Mar 15 22:41:29 look like an usability problem.. :P Mar 15 22:41:35 'looks' Mar 15 22:48:07 how i turn the rec volume up?.. my bluetooth thingy has a bad mic.. Mar 15 22:48:50 probably not without software mixing Mar 15 22:49:19 no software mixin gui? Mar 15 22:49:19 alsa had a control for rec vol but by default it's at 100% anyway Mar 15 22:49:43 what i meant was software amplification Mar 15 22:50:27 how do i see alsa volumes? Mar 15 22:50:41 i find no console mixers.. :S Mar 15 22:50:54 i have compiled alsa-utils myself Mar 15 22:51:13 hm.. Mar 15 22:51:14 i can give you binary but as i said, not much to do there Mar 15 22:51:33 it would be greate if you send it. :) Mar 15 22:51:40 this way i can make me sure mic is 100%.. Mar 15 22:52:49 mrrau.dyndns.org:23280/n800/alsamixer Mar 15 22:52:55 let me know if it needs libs too Mar 15 22:52:58 hm.. maybe i could try to record something to a file.. and not use the sip client.. Mar 15 22:54:07 hey KotCzarny, you know that sshfs you gave me? Mar 15 22:54:11 Error opening terminal: xterm. Mar 15 22:54:13 :S Mar 15 22:54:18 clin: yes Mar 15 22:54:21 once i leave the network, do i need to do it again? Mar 15 22:54:28 hmm Mar 15 22:54:32 cause it seemslike it Mar 15 22:54:33 only if it disconnects Mar 15 22:54:36 yea Mar 15 22:54:40 like if i switch networks Mar 15 22:54:46 then definitely Mar 15 22:54:54 sshfs?.. with the a sshfs kernel module? Mar 15 22:54:54 just think about it as regular ssh session Mar 15 22:54:56 is there anyway to makeit auto connect? Mar 15 22:55:08 clin: set keys with no password? Mar 15 22:55:09 :> Mar 15 22:55:16 =\ Mar 15 22:55:29 and do simple script to see if it lists in mount output Mar 15 22:55:30 :) Mar 15 22:55:33 is there a mic recording app around? Mar 15 22:55:39 pfft, if i knew how :P Mar 15 22:55:54 clin: new to scripts? :> Mar 15 22:56:05 to python and maemo Mar 15 22:56:24 if [ mount | grep sshfs ]; then echo mounted; else echo not mounted; fi Mar 15 22:56:25 ;) Mar 15 22:56:42 haha Mar 15 22:57:02 KotCzarny: can i see the sshfs package you send to cLin? Mar 15 22:57:24 killfill: it's in the same location as that binary Mar 15 22:57:32 greate Mar 15 22:57:36 KotCzarny: should be else echo (command to mount) Mar 15 22:57:49 how would i makeit into something i can run? Mar 15 23:01:17 if [ "`mount | grep sshfss`" ]; then echo mounted; else sshfs something somewhere; fi Mar 15 23:01:27 if [ "`mount | grep sshfs`" ]; then echo mounted; else sshfs something somewhere; fi Mar 15 23:01:33 this one should work Mar 15 23:01:44 maybe with a grep -v grep too.. :P Mar 15 23:01:58 killfill, nope Mar 15 23:02:06 he should replace sshfs with his mount point Mar 15 23:02:31 ie. /media/distant/home Mar 15 23:02:38 or something Mar 15 23:04:29 does the 2.6.21 kernel source provide full device functionality? wlan, bluetooth etc? Mar 15 23:04:47 mips: yes Mar 15 23:04:53 KotCzarny: btw.. found some of your old chat logs.. saved me tons of time getting this kernel compiled Mar 15 23:04:54 but it contains binary blobs Mar 15 23:05:03 bah.. i can live with binary blobs Mar 15 23:05:04 lol Mar 15 23:05:23 i am playing around with crossdev in gentoo Mar 15 23:05:35 been quite a while since I've done any embedded development Mar 15 23:05:58 off the top of your head.. is the 2008SE using software floating point or the vfp? if that question makes sense heh Mar 15 23:06:00 nokia's sdk is doing quite well Mar 15 23:06:23 there was a talk about fpu today Mar 15 23:06:30 you can try today's logs :> Mar 15 23:06:54 but for a quickie, i think it's compiled without vfp, because of using thumb Mar 15 23:07:11 you can however compile with vfp support Mar 15 23:08:07 KotCzarny: what should i save the file as? Mar 15 23:08:12 i'm going to make it now and see if it works Mar 15 23:08:18 clin: huh? Mar 15 23:08:24 the script Mar 15 23:08:29 maybe autosshfs Mar 15 23:08:32 like, file.? Mar 15 23:08:33 the extension Mar 15 23:08:36 then chmod +x autosshfs Mar 15 23:08:39 doesn't matter Mar 15 23:08:41 it's *nix Mar 15 23:08:47 oh Mar 15 23:08:48 but you can use .sh if you must Mar 15 23:08:48 ok Mar 15 23:08:50 :) Mar 15 23:08:53 let's see.. Mar 15 23:09:09 you put [ "`mount Mar 15 23:09:15 is the " and ` necessary Mar 15 23:09:26 don't ask, try Mar 15 23:09:27 hehe Mar 15 23:09:35 okay.. i GUESS this thing is running the kernel i just compiled Mar 15 23:09:41 btw. earlier echos were for testing Mar 15 23:09:52 so you will see what branch it takes Mar 15 23:09:54 in 'if' Mar 15 23:09:57 the echo mounted? yea i figured Mar 15 23:10:09 that was rather anti-climatic Mar 15 23:10:27 :) Mar 15 23:11:00 how do you guys autoload fuse.ko? Mar 15 23:11:31 okay then.. that was much faster and much simpler than I expected Mar 15 23:11:47 crossdev + maemo compiled kernel sources up and running Mar 15 23:12:03 insmod Mar 15 23:13:16 is there a performance comparison between the default browser and opera? Mar 15 23:13:20 how do i run this? i double clicked it and it says -sh: autosshfs.sh: not found Mar 15 23:14:44 try adding #!/bin/sh as the first line Mar 15 23:14:54 and don't forget to chmod +x it Mar 15 23:14:57 i did Mar 15 23:15:48 can i open it through file manager or do i need to use cmd line Mar 15 23:16:13 first try cmd line Mar 15 23:16:35 to see if it's working Mar 15 23:16:37 Nokia-N800-51-3:/home/user/MyDocs/.documents# autosshfs.sh Mar 15 23:16:37 -sh: autosshfs.sh: not found Mar 15 23:16:37 i put it in docs Mar 15 23:16:45 ah Mar 15 23:16:47 add ./ Mar 15 23:16:52 at the beginning Mar 15 23:16:55 oh Mar 15 23:17:00 or put it in the path Mar 15 23:17:05 for example /usr/local/bin Mar 15 23:17:19 strange, it says fuse isn't loaded Mar 15 23:17:26 does it unload for any reason? Mar 15 23:17:31 add insmod fuse.ko line Mar 15 23:17:38 (with proper path) Mar 15 23:17:41 probably Mar 15 23:17:46 run 'uptime' Mar 15 23:17:51 or lsmod Mar 15 23:18:14 16:17:01 up 12:47, load average: 0.35, 0.34, 0.29 Mar 15 23:18:18 Module Size Used by Mar 15 23:18:18 g_file_storage 27560 0 - Live 0xbf050000 Mar 15 23:18:18 cx3110x 56200 0 - Live 0xbf041000 Mar 15 23:18:18 umac 258788 1 cx3110x, Live 0xbf000000 (P) Mar 15 23:18:18 12h Mar 15 23:18:28 then it rebooted Mar 15 23:18:31 in the meantime Mar 15 23:18:32 yea, i turned it off Mar 15 23:18:35 or you turned it off Mar 15 23:18:36 :) Mar 15 23:18:58 then add insmod line before sshfs Mar 15 23:19:30 else insmod /usr/local/lib/modules/fuse.ko; sshfs -o allow_other clin@192.168.1.64:/ /home/user/MyDocs/Laptop; fi Mar 15 23:19:33 ? Mar 15 23:20:18 don't ask, try Mar 15 23:20:30 ok Mar 15 23:20:44 is there anyway for it to type in my pw? besides setting no password Mar 15 23:21:03 hmm, yes, but more complicated :> Mar 15 23:21:08 ok Mar 15 23:21:27 btw. i was talking about password-less keys, not about unsetting password Mar 15 23:21:28 :) Mar 15 23:21:33 well, it works. have to type in pw still Mar 15 23:21:42 hey KotCzarny Mar 15 23:21:58 when i sshfs -o allow_other remote local_dir Mar 15 23:22:05 then the local_dir is not seeable by "user" Mar 15 23:22:10 only by root. Mar 15 23:22:13 how do i fix this? Mar 15 23:22:19 ln -s ? Mar 15 23:22:20 :> Mar 15 23:22:25 cLin: working on djmount or something else? Mar 15 23:22:25 so i can play my remote music Mar 15 23:22:36 or mount somewhere inside /home/user dir Mar 15 23:22:39 ln -s? Mar 15 23:22:44 like clin does Mar 15 23:22:52 well i have it on /media/mmc2.. so music player can find them Mar 15 23:23:11 oh sshfs Mar 15 23:23:22 djmount?... Mar 15 23:23:54 killfill: you will have to get to the files yourself Mar 15 23:23:58 via 'open' Mar 15 23:24:15 or use player that can browse any dir Mar 15 23:24:21 * KotCzarny hates media libraries Mar 15 23:24:38 hm.. im mounting my 50G music here.. Mar 15 23:24:42 what do you mean by "open"? Mar 15 23:24:53 well the file manager cannot see the files neither.. :S Mar 15 23:25:14 yeah.. i've wanted to port djmount to the maemo platform so applications like mplayer have native access to upnp media Mar 15 23:26:06 djmount uses fuse to create a dynamic local directory based on upnp media servers and the content they serve Mar 15 23:26:18 nice, too Mar 15 23:26:19 :) Mar 15 23:26:20 aah cool. Mar 15 23:26:30 though i use only ssh Mar 15 23:26:47 yah.. in my case, i neded to access it via ssh too. Mar 15 23:26:56 ultimately.. what i've been trying to do is watch programs recoded via mythtv natively on the 800 Mar 15 23:27:03 killfill: ls ? mount ? Mar 15 23:27:04 :) Mar 15 23:27:05 err recorded Mar 15 23:27:31 fuppes offers transcoding on the fly, but ffmpeg doesn't much like the nuv format.. Mar 15 23:27:39 http://jbrodack.googlepages.com/ some public domain rompacks that don't suck for various emulators Mar 15 23:27:49 llamatron is fun Mar 15 23:28:41 i mount via nds Mar 15 23:28:44 nfs Mar 15 23:28:57 nfs is safe only locally Mar 15 23:29:06 and even then, not over wifi Mar 15 23:29:07 :> Mar 15 23:29:14 wired.. now it works.. :P Mar 15 23:29:24 whats the default path to the homepage? Mar 15 23:29:39 should be in options Mar 15 23:29:40 :) Mar 15 23:29:45 i changed it Mar 15 23:29:46 cool.. :) Mar 15 23:29:49 but i need to find it Mar 15 23:29:51 hehe Mar 15 23:30:02 i have changed mine too Mar 15 23:30:12 i like how the home.htm only shows that in the url but with a different address it shows the fullthing Mar 15 23:31:34 no 'change back to default' button? Mar 15 23:31:35 :) Mar 15 23:31:40 i did Mar 15 23:31:50 but it shows the old one, i want to find that file so i can replace it with my page Mar 15 23:31:53 * killfill throwing canola to a 50G sshfs dir. Mar 15 23:32:50 killfill: yeah, 50gb to scan over wifi Mar 15 23:32:52 good idea Mar 15 23:32:53 ;) Mar 15 23:33:12 lol Mar 15 23:34:16 and actually.. its over an adsl connection.. :P Mar 15 23:34:34 even better Mar 15 23:34:34 :> Mar 15 23:34:44 rsync manages that well enough Mar 15 23:34:58 lcdd: but it's canola Mar 15 23:34:58 ;) Mar 15 23:35:11 read: metalayer-crawl equivalent Mar 15 23:35:12 ;) Mar 15 23:35:39 rsync cheats... it runs its own server. Mar 15 23:36:05 hmm. i guess the user doesn't mind waiting as long as there are pretty animations Mar 15 23:36:26 derf: 50gb? Mar 15 23:36:27 :> Mar 15 23:36:30 like between every menu click Mar 15 23:37:23 you don't want to use up too much interrupts while watching vids/listening to music Mar 15 23:37:29 *many Mar 15 23:38:21 i just thought up what could be a revolution Mar 15 23:38:29 looks like canola has a timeout.. :P Mar 15 23:38:38 You invented the wheel? Mar 15 23:38:56 make a pretty ui which imposes no delays on the user but shows animations after the events Mar 15 23:39:00 (badum-TSH, thanks folks, I'll be here all week, tip your server, try the veal!) Mar 15 23:41:04 Depends on what you mean by "no delays"... rendering is typically done in the event thread (for a very good reason). Mar 15 23:41:08 btw. sshfs can timeout sometimes Mar 15 23:41:14 maybe i should apply for a patent Mar 15 23:41:15 Even if you're not blocking events, you're using CPU. Mar 15 23:41:22 hm.. canola seem to not like sshfs things.. :S Mar 15 23:41:24 i have seen it with cygwin opensshd Mar 15 23:41:40 see if it's still connected Mar 15 23:41:40 ;) Mar 15 23:41:51 KotCzarny: have you use canola with sshfs?.. Mar 15 23:41:55 nope Mar 15 23:42:00 i don't like media libraries Mar 15 23:42:02 The problem with sshfs is getting it to _reconnect_ after it times out. Mar 15 23:42:07 i use mplayer exclusively Mar 15 23:42:16 * killfill testing ukmp Mar 15 23:42:27 KotCzarny: from command line?... Mar 15 23:42:43 KotCzarny: dod you ever find a function like wait_vsync()? Mar 15 23:42:58 the tearing is starting to annoy me Mar 15 23:43:11 pupnik: i believe there's no such thing in nokia .. Mar 15 23:43:25 but there's another Mar 15 23:43:38 ie. kernel compiles with 'manual updates to lcd' Mar 15 23:43:44 * pupnik hopes for instant gratification Mar 15 23:43:47 oh drrgr Mar 15 23:43:56 but i believe hildon is using it Mar 15 23:44:00 or i don't know Mar 15 23:44:06 investigate! Mar 15 23:44:07 :) Mar 15 23:44:12 derf: i mean that the interface should allow the user to take the next logical step immediately Mar 15 23:44:31 you'd think lcdd would know this :) Mar 15 23:45:17 getting sshfs to reconnect is quite easy Mar 15 23:45:18 :) Mar 15 23:45:27 but lowers security a bit Mar 15 23:45:33 KotCzarny: Not reliably. Mar 15 23:45:44 umm, haven't tried it Mar 15 23:45:53 but simple ls per minute should do Mar 15 23:46:10 Until it flakes out and the mount becomes unusable. Mar 15 23:46:28 or worse, busy Mar 15 23:46:28 ;) Mar 15 23:46:41 Yes, it is _extremely_ bad at handling more than one file at a time. Mar 15 23:47:03 In the "lock up your entire kernel for a while" sense of bad. Mar 15 23:47:04 but in that case one can try forcing mounting it over nonempty dir Mar 15 23:47:44 derf: running nfs mount forgetting nolock or portmap can be worse Mar 15 23:47:45 :> Mar 15 23:47:52 or intr Mar 15 23:47:53 ;) Mar 15 23:48:11 Sure, but no one seriously uses NFS on Linux. Mar 15 23:48:12 still, for me sshfs is 99% usable Mar 15 23:48:15 It sucks too much. Mar 15 23:48:24 derf: it has it's uses Mar 15 23:48:26 nokia uses nfs Mar 15 23:49:01 Yes, my company does to. I do not consider these people "serious". Mar 15 23:49:15 In fact, that's _why_ I know how much it sucks. Mar 15 23:49:22 *too Mar 15 23:49:42 :> Mar 15 23:50:11 "And I know, we'll put everyone's homedir on it, so when the server goes tits up, the entire company's stuck twiddling their thumbs!" Mar 15 23:53:41 hm.. the guis are too heavy to work with 226 dirs.. Mar 15 23:53:49 the filemanager gets too slow.. Mar 15 23:54:19 :> Mar 15 23:54:31 wanna my ncurses based mplayer gui? Mar 15 23:54:32 ;) Mar 15 23:54:51 got one?.. Mar 15 23:54:54 sure Mar 15 23:55:10 it's in pfl dir Mar 15 23:55:55 refresh readme Mar 15 23:56:01 i forgot putting 
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Mar 15 23:56:18  oOh..
Mar 15 23:56:48  you should put rc file in /etc
Mar 15 23:57:10  can be usefull for customizing keys etc.
Mar 15 23:57:23  'right' on dpad acts as play/go dir
Mar 15 23:57:30  left is go up dir
Mar 15 23:57:44  ';' is mapped to 'make recursive playlist'
Mar 15 23:58:02  but on n800 some Fkey could be more usefull
Mar 15 23:58:13  hm..
Mar 15 23:59:05  i think i dont understand your program.. :)
Mar 15 23:59:22  wheni execute it, it generats a playlist to play with mplayer?...
Mar 15 23:59:49  http://pastebin.com/d3c923edd
Mar 16 00:00:18  navigate to you songs
Mar 16 00:00:26  using dpad
Mar 16 00:00:53  hm.. dpad.. is that a program?..
Mar 16 00:00:53  it should show a gui
Mar 16 00:00:57 * killfill feeling ignorant.. :P
Mar 16 00:01:05  it's direction-pad
Mar 16 00:01:08  i believe
Mar 16 00:02:07  you mean the hardware buttons on the left?..
Mar 16 00:02:14  yup
Mar 16 00:02:20  ah..
Mar 16 00:02:51  ok i see no ui. is there a way to make it more verbose?.. maybe im missing a dep.
Mar 16 00:02:57  hmm
Mar 16 00:03:00  nope
Mar 16 00:03:04  it should show
Mar 16 00:03:10  if you can run it with a -d switch
Mar 16 00:03:22  it will generate debug file in home dir
Mar 16 00:03:42  Error opening terminal: xterm.
Mar 16 00:03:48  got it
Mar 16 00:03:53  hehe
Mar 16 00:04:38  ok i see no ui. is there a way to make it more verbose?.. maybe im missing a dep. osso-xterm is already the newest version.
Mar 16 00:04:47  sorry
Mar 16 00:04:51  :)
Mar 16 00:05:23  where is "xterm"?... its not in osso-xterm. :S
Mar 16 00:05:36   /usr/share/termcap ?
Mar 16 00:05:40  echo $TERM
Mar 16 00:06:34  ls: /usr/share/termcap: No such file or directory
Mar 16 00:06:45  terminfo then
Mar 16 00:06:45  TERM=xterm..
Mar 16 00:09:13  hmm
Mar 16 00:09:39  wired..
Mar 16 00:09:40  works for me, wonder if i installed anything special
Mar 16 00:10:28  you writed this?
Mar 16 00:10:36  hacked
Mar 16 00:10:42  it was only seeing mp3s
Mar 16 00:10:48  i have fixed some bugs
Mar 16 00:10:53  ok
Mar 16 00:10:53  and added mplayer support
Mar 16 00:11:00  cool
Mar 16 00:11:08  weired
Mar 16 00:11:10  so now it can play anything mplayer handles
Mar 16 00:11:27  you're not missing ncurses lib
Mar 16 00:11:37  otherwise it would stop with 'no lib'
Mar 16 00:11:52  on your n800. you can execute 'xterm'?.. is this a command?.. becosue i dont have it..
Mar 16 00:12:04  there's no xterm
Mar 16 00:12:09  it's osso-xterm
Mar 16 00:12:14  yup: libncurses5
Mar 16 00:12:20  ok
Mar 16 00:12:26  but uses xterm terminfo caps
Mar 16 00:12:49  KotCzarny: where to get this frontend?
Mar 16 00:13:35  lcdd: mrrau.dyndns.org:23280/n800/pfl/
Mar 16 00:14:14  KotCzarny: ncurses-base
Mar 16 00:14:17  thanks, will try it in a moment
Mar 16 00:14:21  was missing that. :)
Mar 16 00:14:24  huh
Mar 16 00:14:27  good to know
Mar 16 00:15:37  hey cool!..
Mar 16 00:15:41  :)
Mar 16 00:15:44  much better.
Mar 16 00:15:59  yeah, media libraries suck atm.
Mar 16 00:16:56  and as i said, you probably should map 'generate recursive list' to something
Mar 16 00:17:04  otherwise it will play current dir/playlist
Mar 16 00:17:28  whatever you navigate it into
Mar 16 00:17:29  :)
Mar 16 00:17:55  what do you mean by map 'generate recursive list'?
Mar 16 00:18:07  go to dir with subdirs
Mar 16 00:18:16  then hit ';' on on screen keyboard
Mar 16 00:18:17  :)
Mar 16 00:20:23  it doing something.. :)
Mar 16 00:20:38  erm, how much subdirs are there?
Mar 16 00:20:59  it's launching find -name mp3 . or something
Mar 16 00:21:00  :>
Mar 16 00:21:09  cool.
Mar 16 00:21:17  ah it does a full playlist.
Mar 16 00:21:20  nice
Mar 16 00:21:25  :)
Mar 16 00:21:33  now you see what's a recursive playlist is
Mar 16 00:21:33  ;)
Mar 16 00:21:41  btw. it saves this playlist
Mar 16 00:21:49  so if you start it again without args
Mar 16 00:21:54  it will show it by default
Mar 16 00:22:00  any way to make the center dpad button does the same as the right button, i.e. enter, and not open the but keyboard in the xterm?
Mar 16 00:22:02  can be usefull
Mar 16 00:22:12  ah
Mar 16 00:22:24  killfill: yes, in system settings
Mar 16 00:22:39  /etc/playfilelistrc?
Mar 16 00:22:40  text input
Mar 16 00:22:45  didnt find it
Mar 16 00:22:49  and uncheck both i think
Mar 16 00:22:54  no, system
Mar 16 00:23:04  like settings in system menu
Mar 16 00:23:54  or maybe not
Mar 16 00:24:18  well, at least right dpad is working as expected
Mar 16 00:24:19  :)
Mar 16 00:25:37  keeps open it..
Mar 16 00:25:39  yah
Mar 16 00:26:04  and i guess ncurses gui uses less cpu too
Mar 16 00:26:05  it would be very very cool, if i could do something with the song that is getting played..
Mar 16 00:26:12  you can
Mar 16 00:26:17  use , and .
Mar 16 00:26:22  for rew and ffwd
Mar 16 00:26:37  as i said, it's all about mapping keys
Mar 16 00:26:44  ah sure..
Mar 16 00:26:53  maybe using hardware +/- ?
Mar 16 00:26:54  but i mean executing a commend with the name of the song..
Mar 16 00:26:58  ah
Mar 16 00:27:08  you know i have a mplaye daemon.. with a client on the living room.
Mar 16 00:27:18  hmm
Mar 16 00:27:26  i think you can write a script for that
Mar 16 00:27:33  i could use the n800 as a "pre-listen" thingy..  so if i like the song, i send it to the musicpd daemon..
Mar 16 00:27:48  you see, mplayer slave is very simple
Mar 16 00:27:52  "was musicpd daemon.. not mplaye daemon.. :P"
Mar 16 00:28:09  :)
Mar 16 00:28:14  still you can write a script
Mar 16 00:28:16  i guess
Mar 16 00:28:28  see mplayer slave reference
Mar 16 00:28:30  and assign it to a key?
Mar 16 00:28:42  hum
Mar 16 00:29:01  i was thinking more like it will see what command it gets and acts accordingly
Mar 16 00:29:11  it could run mplayer slave on it's own
Mar 16 00:29:39  yah.. got you.
Mar 16 00:29:49  maybe wget control/address && play-local song
Mar 16 00:29:58  but i already have the whole musicpd infraestructure working.. :)
Mar 16 00:30:20  as i said, it's flexible :)
Mar 16 00:30:20  where can i see the code of this little nifty app?..
Mar 16 00:30:28  soi can get an idea.. :)
Mar 16 00:30:29  just a moment
Mar 16 00:30:36  but beware
Mar 16 00:30:45  i coded inside it ;)
Mar 16 00:30:51  heh..
Mar 16 00:31:41  hmm
Mar 16 00:32:05  if you press '?' it will probably call youtube client
Mar 16 00:32:05  :>
Mar 16 00:32:16  i mean it first asks for a search keyword
Mar 16 00:32:29  then gets some links, then plays it using mplayer
Mar 16 00:32:29  :)
Mar 16 00:32:38  but it's better ran remotely ;)
Mar 16 00:33:35  ok, i put sources in the /pfl/
Mar 16 00:33:53  but it's current code, i don't remember what state it was
Mar 16 00:33:54  :>
Mar 16 00:34:59  i use it on my pc too
Mar 16 00:35:11  and it's very convenient
Mar 16 00:35:22  [ and ] are prev/next song
Mar 16 00:35:44  cool
Mar 16 00:35:46  r/s, repeat/shuffle
Mar 16 00:36:05  i info(from mp3 tag)
Mar 16 00:36:23 * killfill want to add a new key-command
Mar 16 00:36:30  :>
Mar 16 00:36:34  'wants'
Mar 16 00:36:46  you will have to declare it in few places
Mar 16 00:36:49  afair
Mar 16 00:37:04  im just missing 1 thing tho... the dpad thing, is not controlled by the app right?.. there is no way i.e. to assign the home key to a key-command?
Mar 16 00:37:20  ?
Mar 16 00:37:25  playfilelistrc
Mar 16 00:37:26  :)
Mar 16 00:37:48  though i don't remember if it handles Fkeys
Mar 16 00:38:07  yah.. i see i can assign keyboard keys..
Mar 16 00:38:16  yah.. i mean Fkeys.. the hardware ones
Mar 16 00:38:53  but home key will be catched by hildon
Mar 16 00:39:03  and other too
Mar 16 00:39:24  in the same way center-dpad is calling osk
Mar 16 00:39:47  maybe if you use non-hildonized term
Mar 16 00:39:51  :)
Mar 16 00:39:58  anyway.. this is cool.. with this, im very little to have my desired music system working!.. :) (with a pre-song-hearing selection thing)
Mar 16 00:40:10  :)
Mar 16 00:40:26  get xkbd
Mar 16 00:40:31  it will take less screen space
Mar 16 00:40:58  and can have custom layout of the keys
Mar 16 00:41:02  :)
Mar 16 00:41:18  and ability to use images on them
Mar 16 00:41:45  sound good!
Mar 16 00:41:59  'sounds'
Mar 16 00:42:01  :)
Mar 16 00:42:06  :)
Mar 16 00:42:52  http://youtube.com/watch?v=GRHJMf_jY8A  Jeff Winter (Gridrunner, Attack of the Mutant Camels, Llamatron) google tech talk on the early days of gaming
Mar 16 00:51:00  Minter
Mar 16 00:51:37  :>
Mar 16 00:53:00  ello!
Mar 16 00:53:07  KotCzarny: thanks for your tips!
Mar 16 00:53:16  http://mrrau.dyndns.org:23280/tmp/IMG-knuttz_ueba_11.jpg
Mar 16 00:53:17  ehehe
Mar 16 00:53:27  killfill: np
Mar 16 00:53:31  that will be 5 EUR
Mar 16 00:53:32  ;)
Mar 16 00:53:42  c'ya guysheh
Mar 16 00:53:49  :)
Mar 16 00:57:07  ooo jaguar emulator
Mar 16 00:57:14  tempest 2000
Mar 16 00:57:22  were there any games for jag?
Mar 16 00:58:01  http://www.mobygames.com/game/jaguar/tempest-2000
Mar 16 00:58:06  didn't realize Minter made it
Mar 16 00:58:15  t2k has quite a reputation
Mar 16 01:00:43  http://mrrau.dyndns.org:23280/tmp/IMG-fun_noshit10.jpg
Mar 16 01:00:44  :>
Mar 16 01:02:14  ?
Mar 16 01:02:15  and this one is a perfect mod for a reainy weather + nokia too: http://mrrau.dyndns.org:23280/tmp/IMG-fun_noshit3.jpg
Mar 16 01:02:15  :>
Mar 16 01:02:23  ?
Mar 16 01:02:36  *rainy
Mar 16 01:03:25  and costs no more than a few bucks a 3pack
Mar 16 01:03:25  ;)
Mar 16 01:04:11  reusable too
Mar 16 01:04:13  :)
Mar 16 01:33:15  http://www.yakyak.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=67230&hilit=jaguar+emulator  nice rundown of how 'Firefox' optimized the jaguar emulator for the gp2x
Mar 16 01:33:37  firefox?
Mar 16 01:33:54  ah.
Mar 16 01:33:55  nick
Mar 16 01:36:51  whoa dumb nick
Mar 16 01:37:09 * Luria remebers when they were handles.
Mar 16 01:37:31  one should post about n8x0 to that list
Mar 16 01:37:32  ;)
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