**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Aug 30 02:59:57 2008 Aug 30 03:22:03 could something like this ( http://tinyurl.com/6feedg ) work with a n800? I mean the remote control, not the headphones Aug 30 03:39:43 hey Aug 30 03:47:00 there's really no way to make n800 chaege from usb? Aug 30 03:47:07 charge' Aug 30 03:48:29 el3kt: with a usb to powerplug adapter Aug 30 04:28:30 Hi, I have an n810 that was working with USBModem on a Treo 755p. It's stopped working and I can't get it going again. Can anyone help me? Aug 30 04:28:48 My MacBook can still tether to it. Aug 30 04:37:54 Is that neccesary? I had my N800 tethered to my Treo 650 via bluetooth, with no 3rd-party software Aug 30 05:21:12 guys. can I use a laptop keyboard through the USB? Nokia N800 (OS2008) Aug 30 05:22:12 maybe, depends on how much current does it want Aug 30 05:22:23 you might need a powered USB hub Aug 30 05:23:07 i mean, the laptop is running Aug 30 05:24:27 uhhmmm Aug 30 05:24:35 You mean, the actual keyboard laptop has Aug 30 05:24:43 it'd need a piece of software Aug 30 05:25:03 I know none program like that Aug 30 05:25:45 I'd like to though Aug 30 05:26:28 a piece of software that makes a certain USB port appear like a device Aug 30 05:26:35 well Aug 30 05:26:37 there is one Aug 30 05:26:41 but i am not sure if it will work that way Aug 30 05:26:43 let me find it Aug 30 05:26:46 it should Aug 30 05:26:55 although hub-to-hub connection is unsafe Aug 30 05:27:06 you'd need a special hacked cable for that Aug 30 05:28:01 the cable is not a problem Aug 30 05:28:05 it is Aug 30 05:28:16 ok, the N800 comes with a USB cable, right? Aug 30 05:28:20 you cannot provide voltage to a working USB hub Aug 30 05:28:35 hm Aug 30 05:28:37 that cable is for n8x0 as a client Aug 30 05:28:44 although it should work Aug 30 05:28:48 but there is a program that makes it a host Aug 30 05:28:59 trick is, you will switch n8x0 into host mode Aug 30 05:29:09 http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/usbhost/ Aug 30 05:29:16 this will burn the port in your laptop ;P Aug 30 05:29:23 http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/usbcontrol/ Aug 30 05:29:32 hm Aug 30 05:29:33 no no, you don't get it Aug 30 05:29:40 so if it was an external keyboard, it would work? Aug 30 05:29:46 but if it's a laptop's one, it won't? Aug 30 05:29:50 yes, definitely Aug 30 05:29:57 i see Aug 30 05:29:59 but hub-to-hub is unsafe Aug 30 05:30:39 you'd have to somehow put n8x0 usb into client mode, while all the software and such works like in host mode Aug 30 05:30:46 http://tabletschool.blogspot.com/2008/05/nokia-n800-n810-how-to-connect-ordinary.html Aug 30 05:30:49 or simulate USB OTG on the other side too Aug 30 05:31:05 and cheat that it's a device to device connection Aug 30 05:31:13 and that the other side is providing power Aug 30 05:31:40 (the laptop side) Aug 30 05:31:45 aha Aug 30 05:31:47 i get it now Aug 30 05:31:48 this is some fairly low-level programming Aug 30 05:31:50 thanks a bunch Aug 30 05:34:53 anyone here is Python/GTK developer? Aug 30 05:34:58 i have a very stupid question Aug 30 05:35:32 don't be shy Aug 30 06:13:23 hi everyone Aug 30 06:26:06 night Aug 30 06:31:08 moin Aug 30 06:37:13 gregorovius_ / AStorm / GeneralAntilles : One of /etc/osso/* defines MYDOCS_DIR which you can use to change the location from /home/user/MyDocs. Anything assuming ~/MyDocs has a bug. I use it to put mine on /media/mmc2 without having the space used of booting off it. Aug 30 06:39:31 oh, I'll check it out, thanks jaffa Aug 30 06:39:48 Jaffa, so what you're trying to tell me is that N810s have no storage? :P Aug 30 06:39:56 would be good to add that to the wiki, as there's al ready a 'mydocs' page Aug 30 06:41:15 GeneralAntilles: no, that I want the space for other things ;-p Aug 30 06:42:47 Jaffa: in /etc/osso/ I only have a file named osso-addressbook-stop.sh Aug 30 06:44:12 osso-af-init/af-defines.sh: # The MyDocs directory Aug 30 06:44:12 osso-af-init/af-defines.sh: export MYDOCSDIR=$HOME/MyDocs Aug 30 06:44:12 osso-backup/osso-backup.conf: $HOME/MyDocs Aug 30 06:44:12 osso-global-search/locations.conf: $HOME/MyDocs Aug 30 06:45:11 well, it seems nokia is assuming ~/MyDocs Aug 30 06:49:50 gregorovius_: as the default, does that surprise? Aug 30 06:51:18 somewhat Aug 30 07:08:50 gregorovius_: You want af-defines.sh Aug 30 07:09:40 Jaffa: yes, I edited it and it seems to be working, except audio files are not being found when I put them into the .sounds folder Aug 30 07:13:17 canola isn't finding images in the .images folder as well =/ Aug 30 07:13:24 do you guys know anything about home screen applets? Aug 30 07:15:04 I don't... i'm sure some people in this channel do, but how many of them are awake, I don't know Aug 30 07:22:01 heh yah ... friday night and all :) Aug 30 07:22:17 <--- has no life Aug 30 07:23:11 Woo Aug 30 07:26:17 * qwerty12 knows he needs a new processor and graphics card when rendering the os2008 desktop makes his fan whir up :\ Aug 30 07:29:23 gregorovius_: you'll need to tell Canola about the new folder Aug 30 07:29:31 * Jaffa weddings Aug 30 07:29:38 (not mine) Aug 30 07:30:23 effing hell, how do you do a "/" on an N810 keyboard? Aug 30 07:30:27 Jaffa: it's a hidden folder, hence I can't choose it from canola Aug 30 07:30:40 it does have a 'sounds folder', but it didn't work Aug 30 07:32:25 gregorovius_: interested in a wacky way of doing it? Aug 30 07:32:57 does it involve rabbits or secret magic powder? Aug 30 07:33:04 No, that comes later Aug 30 07:33:19 * gregorovius_ is dissapointed Aug 30 07:33:26 tell me Aug 30 07:34:46 Make a folder with exactly the same numbers of characters in the folder that you want to add (including the .) and add it in canola. Copy the file ~/.canola/prefs/scanned_folders and use an hex editor to change the folder name. I'd say use vi on the tablet but the canola people seem to have some weird way of storing their settings. Aug 30 07:36:12 Oh, the folder has to be in the same path as the hidden one. Aug 30 07:36:23 funny Aug 30 07:36:28 yeah, that should work Aug 30 07:36:42 * qwerty12 goes back to figuring out how to input a "/" on an N810 keyboard ;) Aug 30 07:36:52 thanks Aug 30 07:37:10 np. I should just emulate an N800 instead >.< Aug 30 07:42:38 is there any way to modify the locking/unlocking behaviour? I don't really like power-enter to unlock Aug 30 07:42:53 i'd rather have a single short press or something like that Aug 30 07:43:28 No :(. mce is closed source. There is a open source clone which is very customisable (powerlaunch) but has some bugs. Aug 30 07:44:52 bummer Aug 30 07:44:59 that didn't quite work, btw Aug 30 07:45:05 canola isn't playing my files Aug 30 07:45:23 doesn't matter really, I can live with that Aug 30 07:51:37 * qwerty12 has to disable the "n810"'s keyboard. it's driving me effing mad. Aug 30 07:56:55 qwerty12, you mean the onscreen one? Aug 30 07:57:40 moontiger: no, the hardware one. except I'm using an emulated N810 so I don't actually have the N810 keyboard physically >.< Aug 30 07:58:03 ohhhhhhhhhh ... well the real one drives me f***ing mad too :| Aug 30 07:58:48 hehe. i'm messing around with gconftool, hopefully I can make it believe it doesn't have a keyboard and I'm using an external one :) Aug 30 08:00:19 heh :) Aug 30 08:00:29 anyways ... nn all Aug 30 08:42:09 hello Aug 30 08:54:07 i ask you a thing Aug 30 08:54:49 what this the distance that wi-fi can do if i got acees points in outdoor with antennas ? Aug 30 09:00:24 That's an unanswerable question. Aug 30 09:00:33 It depends on a huge variety of factors. Aug 30 09:00:58 Wifi can pretty much be LoS for as long a distance as you want with the right antenna and amplifier. Aug 30 09:02:09 ~lart Werror Aug 30 09:02:09 * infobot whacks Werror with a giant beaver's tail Aug 30 09:03:56 for example ? Aug 30 09:05:23 better without amplifier, cause of noise and never sync signal that could damage the RF POWER MODULE Aug 30 09:09:11 Doesn't matter Aug 30 09:09:18 It's not a question that can be answered in short. Aug 30 09:09:23 Google is your friend. Aug 30 09:12:00 i know Aug 30 09:12:16 but if you want we can listen this evening Aug 30 09:12:28 when i turn back from the sea Aug 30 09:12:33 bye bye paolo Aug 30 09:13:01 if you want a vauge answer, imo the wifi in the n800 is good Aug 30 09:50:52 Hi konfoo Aug 30 09:50:59 are u here Aug 30 09:54:31 qwerty12, iz palmos better then maemo? :P Aug 30 09:55:56 GAN800: I don't think so. I won't deny that it does have more apps and the handwriting recognition works better than maemo but I never liked it. When I smashed my Palm, I went and bought a Pocket PC and never looked back. Aug 30 09:56:08 lol Aug 30 09:56:24 Wasn't a serious question. ;) Aug 30 09:56:34 hehe :) Aug 30 09:57:10 Uploading transmission to extras wont work for me unless the autobuilder can run an sbrsh :P Aug 30 09:57:46 "event.c: In function `event_base_loop':event.c:528: internal compiler error: in verify_local_live_at_start, at flow.c:546.Please submit a full bug report,with preprocessed source if appropriate.Send email to arm-gnu@codesourcery.com for instructions." Aug 30 09:58:14 No wait, I have optimisations set, lemme remove them Aug 30 11:06:16 Hi everyone Aug 30 11:07:50 People, is there any way that if you unzip/unrar a file, it erases from the compressed file Aug 30 11:08:55 I have enough space on mmc for the rar, but not for the rar and all the unrared files (which should be the double) Aug 30 11:11:41 not according to http://linux.die.net/man/1/unrar Aug 30 11:12:48 move the compressed rar to a usb stick and unrar (or rar e) from that Aug 30 11:30:17 addoc, thank you Aug 30 12:04:01 http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q187/Cptnodegard/lalala.jpg Aug 30 12:04:03 ide? Aug 30 12:04:09 i have no clue about such things Aug 30 12:04:59 What about it? Aug 30 12:05:19 looks like pata yes Aug 30 12:05:24 really dusty pata Aug 30 12:05:31 just vacuumed it Aug 30 12:05:37 :) Aug 30 12:05:48 Actually that's a molex in the foreground. :P Aug 30 12:05:58 i need a new DVD burner as that ones flaky Aug 30 12:06:00 a power supply molex indeed Aug 30 12:06:12 GAN800: molex is just a brand of connectors :) Aug 30 12:06:55 aquatix, excuse me for being lazy with the thumbboard. Aug 30 12:07:01 :P Aug 30 12:07:01 so i need the dvd burner that says 1 x IDE/ATAPI - 40 pin IDC `? Aug 30 12:07:11 GAN800: find yourself excused Aug 30 12:07:15 is it possible to reset the Video Center database of files it thinks its downloaded? it's playing the wrong files. Don't really want to lose the feeds though Aug 30 12:07:19 * aquatix would have said the same btw ;) Aug 30 12:07:31 CptLaptop: that or 80 pin Aug 30 12:08:57 http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q187/Cptnodegard/blah.jpg Aug 30 12:09:02 those pins i shou d count? Aug 30 12:09:18 look like 40 Aug 30 12:09:23 80 are smaller Aug 30 12:09:42 the ribbon cable Aug 30 12:10:09 http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/imageview.php?image=586 Aug 30 12:10:45 thx Aug 30 12:11:55 why does one say ide/atapi and the other one i fouind says ata-66? Aug 30 12:16:02 ata-66 is speed spec Aug 30 12:16:22 just buy whatever ide/pata drive Aug 30 12:16:37 Two links for those unfortunate enough to not be able to afford newer than N770: http://dibblah.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/N770-Battery/ http://dibblah.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/N770-SD/ Aug 30 12:17:08 ah thanks Aug 30 12:17:29 s/N770/770/g Aug 30 12:17:42 ... Replacing the battery with a 2400mAh cell and a full-sized cell. Aug 30 12:17:46 There's no such thing as an 'N770' Aug 30 12:17:58 Dibblah: happen to have similar link (battery) for n800? Aug 30 12:17:58 Bah. It's what everyone I know calls it :( Aug 30 12:18:16 CptLaptop: It's harder to do, as I mention at the bottom of the page. Aug 30 12:18:33 Everyone you know is wrong. Aug 30 12:18:57 the wrong name is better than the right name though Aug 30 12:19:02 (On the "800" ;) the metal backbone goes through the entire unit, adding significantly to it's structure) Aug 30 12:19:20 s/800/N800/g Aug 30 12:19:22 if you can't afford an n800 can you afford to take apart your n770 and attack it? Aug 30 12:19:31 'Better'? Aug 30 12:19:41 Well, since it only cost me £70, yes :) Aug 30 12:20:34 thats more than a used n800 would cost you Aug 30 12:20:42 at least not far from Aug 30 12:20:58 CptLaptop: I get the feeling you don't live in the UK. Aug 30 12:21:23 live in norway which is more expensive than the uk but thats what importing shit is for Aug 30 12:21:26 And that was ~1.5 years ago, when a company over here had a firesale of them. Aug 30 12:21:33 ah Aug 30 12:23:07 Dibblah: did you mean 5mm or .5mm in the battery text? Aug 30 12:23:14 5mm. Aug 30 12:23:40 It's actually _slightly_ less, but not much. Aug 30 12:23:46 this webshop over here is having a weekend offer for a dmtech starry7 internet radio for 100usd. half want one. anyone have any experience with such standalones? Aug 30 12:24:56 surely the whole thing is hardly 5mm high Aug 30 12:39:47 mavhc: I don't understand what you mean. Aug 30 12:39:58 5mm == .5cm. Aug 30 12:40:17 how tall is the battery? Aug 30 12:40:54 The new or the old? Aug 30 12:41:17 new Aug 30 12:44:42 mavhc, the battery in the n810 ? Aug 30 12:44:44 The BP-4L ? Aug 30 12:45:18 The old is just over 5mm thick. Aug 30 12:45:28 The new is just under 9mm thick. Aug 30 12:46:23 The BP-4L is 66mm x 43mm x 4mm Aug 30 12:46:34 Dunno which one you're talking about Aug 30 12:47:22 scrollback. Aug 30 12:48:55 oh, 770 battery Aug 30 12:50:59 lol, http://shop.eten.hu/mugen-power-3600mah-extended-battery-nokia-n810-with-battery-door-blue-p-475.html Aug 30 12:51:08 that's ugly as fuck :P Aug 30 12:51:39 lotta power, though. Aug 30 12:51:51 yeah Aug 30 12:52:03 that's what, more than double what you get from the BP-4L Aug 30 12:52:26 * lcuk wakesu p all bleary eyed Aug 30 12:52:36 1500mAh Aug 30 12:53:00 well, let's admit that after a year of usage, being optimistic, you get 1200mAh out of it Aug 30 12:53:09 moo, all Aug 30 12:53:21 and that you don't really get 3600mAh, just some 33-3400 Aug 30 12:53:33 still a pretty good deal for £40 Aug 30 12:53:43 does anyone know where i might find some free stock textures? Aug 30 12:53:50 textures ? Aug 30 12:53:55 Google? Aug 30 12:54:11 GAN800, hey, grumpy, get back in your cave Aug 30 12:54:12 im tryin google but the sleep in my eyes is interupting Aug 30 12:54:17 GAN800, you don't google lcuk Aug 30 12:54:20 There's textures everywhere if you search for them. Aug 30 12:54:43 * GAN800 hisses at crashanddie. Aug 30 12:54:58 lcuk, remember how I said the final version of CR would be out tonight ? Aug 30 12:55:01 What sort of textures, anyway? Aug 30 12:55:02 im looking for royalty free ones tbh :) i wanna see how nicely an alpha blended menu will look :) Aug 30 12:55:22 lcuk, might take a bit longer than that, I started a complete architectural redesign Aug 30 12:55:35 thinking granite for the background Aug 30 12:55:40 ooooh crash - its always the way Aug 30 12:55:55 last time I commited, git went "HOLY MOTHER OF GOD" Aug 30 12:56:16 You could always take a camera outside if it comes down to it. Aug 30 12:56:44 oh one other thing, the "13:49:50 Unknown event 33, let me know what happened at " error when you press the home key - should i bring up a menu which says "do you wanna return to hildon?" Aug 30 12:56:49 flickr might work if you filter by license. Aug 30 12:56:58 lcuk, "Exit?" Aug 30 12:57:03 GAN800, thats a good idea, but i dont have any granite rock formations in manchester Aug 30 12:57:04 But there's lots of free stuff on google. Aug 30 12:57:41 lcuk, http://www.gettyimages.com/Creative/RoyaltyFree.aspx Aug 30 12:58:03 hi, does anybody know if there exists a tango style device icon depicting a nokia n810 somewhere? Aug 30 12:58:24 thanks crashanddie :D Aug 30 12:58:47 I used to have a decent collection but lost it in a drive failure a few years ago. Aug 30 13:00:24 lcuk, plenty: http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?contractUrl=2&language=en-US&family=creative&lic=rf&assetType=image&p=stone&src=standard# Aug 30 13:00:43 I go to gettyimages for nearly everything Aug 30 13:00:44 http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?src=findsimilar&assettype=Image&sfkc=Backgrounds%3BMarble%3BPattern%3BRock#2 Aug 30 13:00:59 i found loads :) thanks Aug 30 13:03:49 lcuk, with virgin, is there a limit on downloading ? They say "no limit", but what's the fair use policy ? Aug 30 13:04:00 Jaiku is too ridiculous. Aug 30 13:04:14 irc for fail. Aug 30 13:04:16 there is a limit, if you go over daily cap of (*feck knows*) then you get slowed down Aug 30 13:04:20 lcuk, I can't watch megavideo clips anymore, says "connection problem", and when i go through encrypted proxy in france, it works without any problem Aug 30 13:04:24 it dependes on package and area though i believe Aug 30 13:04:39 i gave up on all that worry though a while ago and just use it as i need Aug 30 13:04:48 GAN800: define rediculous... Aug 30 13:05:06 t_s_o, a spell used in Harry Potter Aug 30 13:05:09 crashanddie, that could be due to other problems Aug 30 13:05:22 lcuk, yeah, probably, but well, works now Aug 30 13:05:28 I can't, that's not a word. :P Aug 30 13:06:07 But, seriously, it's just a stupid waste of time. Aug 30 13:07:23 if i use a CC none commercial share alike image - do i add attributation in the COPYING license area (which I have a link to view from within liqbase) Aug 30 13:07:44 or does it have to be on the page where i view the image Aug 30 13:09:03 * lcuk has a better idea Aug 30 13:09:35 crashanddie, i will need the code to open a browser :) im gonna add a closing page Aug 30 13:22:39 lcuk, you already have it Aug 30 13:23:04 lcuk, if you have cloudreader installed, there's a file called open_url in /usr/bin Aug 30 13:23:14 i thought the one i had opened within yours, nm when i come to it if i cant do it i'll holler :) Aug 30 13:23:37 i never installed it - it was run from the project folder Aug 30 13:24:02 lcuk, fair enough, but well, it's in the .deb if you need it, just do a system("open_url http://www.google.com"); Aug 30 13:24:19 cool thx Aug 30 13:24:54 can't you directly pass a url to the browser by using browser --url? Aug 30 13:51:11 qwerty12-N800, afraid not Aug 30 13:51:33 ah :( Aug 30 13:53:29 qwerty12-N800, well, you can, and you could desynchronise the system() call by using '&' at the end of the command, but the problem is you don't use dbus if you do that Aug 30 13:54:39 ah I see. did cloudreader appear in extras then? Aug 30 13:54:58 no, my gpg key still isn't recognised by the builder Aug 30 13:55:08 I have to wait until Niels gets back from holiday Aug 30 13:55:26 (x-fade) Aug 30 13:56:26 heh :/ Aug 30 13:56:40 lcuk, if you're going to be using the open_url script, I might just have to package it, too Aug 30 13:56:56 lcuk, cuz if someone uninstalls cloudreader, it would break liqbase Aug 30 13:57:08 dont worry, i was just thinking about a closing screen for liqbase :) Aug 30 13:57:17 lcuk, unless we both add a dependency on the open_url package Aug 30 13:57:21 what happens inside your script thou Aug 30 13:57:30 and cant i just run that action inside a system call Aug 30 13:57:37 nope Aug 30 13:57:44 hang on Aug 30 13:57:53 its ok Aug 30 13:58:10 i wont even put it in - of course it may help you if you figure it out Aug 30 13:58:19 spam Aug 30 13:58:20 send_url () Aug 30 13:58:20 { Aug 30 13:58:20 dbus-send --system --type=method_call --dest=com.nokia.osso_browser \ Aug 30 13:58:20 --print-reply /com/nokia/osso_browser/request \ Aug 30 13:58:20 com.nokia.osso_browser.load_url string:"$1" && exit 0 Aug 30 13:58:21 } Aug 30 13:58:23 send_url "$1" Aug 30 13:58:25 DISPLAY=:0 run-standalone.sh /usr/bin/browser >/dev/null 2>&1 & Aug 30 13:58:27 for _ in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9; do sleep 1; send_url "$1"; done Aug 30 13:58:29 exit 1 Aug 30 13:59:41 dude Aug 30 13:59:43 I'm an idiot Aug 30 14:00:04 or maybe I'm not Aug 30 14:00:07 if you both have the script inn the same location in each of your packages, dpkg will not install one if the other is installed Aug 30 14:00:14 s/inn/in/ Aug 30 14:00:15 qwerty12-N800 meant: if you both have the script in the same location in each of your packages, dpkg will not install one if the other is installed Aug 30 14:00:17 im not adding scripts Aug 30 14:01:09 ah, no, I'm not an idiot :) Aug 30 14:02:07 is that your final answer? Aug 30 14:02:25 yes Aug 30 14:03:07 :D ogod, you just won yourself a half eaten ham sandwich and a pint of gone off milk Aug 30 14:03:13 ^good even lol Aug 30 14:05:26 you're now on for the micro wave even Aug 30 14:05:28 *oven Aug 30 14:06:30 i really have to stop visiting bacon reddit Aug 30 14:06:34 it makes me hungry Aug 30 14:06:38 lol Aug 30 14:08:00 whilst i think on, i think ill follow in lardman|gone's footsteps and add "bacon" as an alert keyword Aug 30 14:08:18 bacon Aug 30 14:08:26 fanbacontastic Aug 30 14:10:09 i can feel my arteries hardening: Aug 30 14:10:09 Chicken Fried Bacon. Bacon with seasoning, battered, breaded, deep-fried, served with ranch or honey mustard sauce. Aug 30 14:10:41 hm, honey mustard sauce Aug 30 14:11:04 just searching freenode for a #bacon channel Aug 30 14:11:10 god.. debian sometimes. debconf GTK support requires libgnome2-perl.. which causes installation to need debconf Aug 30 14:13:51 hola Aug 30 14:17:49 Stskeeps: *grin* Aug 30 14:17:57 or rather *rictus* ;) Aug 30 14:20:55 on ebay I see some screen protectors that they say are for the n810 but the image looks like its for the iphone. Are the iPhone and N810 screen protectors interchangeable? Aug 30 14:28:11 aquatix: i would much rather have taken the Ubuntu port instead of Debian, but it wasn't complete enough :P Aug 30 14:28:14 usicow: might be that they are the same size Aug 30 14:28:23 Stskeeps: ah :) Aug 30 14:28:47 (i -did- have ubuntu booting, but i'm not confident about the basic metapackages) Aug 30 14:30:32 http://i33.tinypic.com/f9lhy0.jpg <- oh this is just plain funny Aug 30 14:30:32 :P Aug 30 14:32:06 is there no other way to view the device time seconds then using "date" in the terminal? Aug 30 14:32:11 http://allyours.virginmedia.com/html/internet/traffic.html are the limits, but they just slow you down if you break them Aug 30 14:32:31 however you can dl more slowed down than you can by sticking to the limits Aug 30 14:35:41 eichi, sorry ? Aug 30 14:37:12 is there an internal temp sensor that the user can read btw? Aug 30 14:37:51 mavhc: yes, it's a standard i2c one Aug 30 14:38:03 mavhc: www.nitapps.com Aug 30 14:38:36 thanks Aug 30 14:40:36 almost everything on that page is something I'd want, brilliant Aug 30 15:11:56 crashanddie, what? Aug 30 15:14:18 (eichi) is there no other way to view the device time seconds then using "date" in the terminal? Aug 30 15:17:01 crashanddie, i want to see the "time" Aug 30 15:17:04 with seconds Aug 30 15:18:47 eichi, ok... Aug 30 15:18:54 then just get a clock that supports seconds Aug 30 15:21:25 http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/9935/screenshot03sd1.png Aug 30 15:26:38 qwerty12, you're emulating diablo in diablo? Aug 30 15:26:50 qwerty12, what else can you run ? Aug 30 15:27:52 crashanddie: well, my computer is. The wonders of ssh X forwarding :) Aug 30 15:27:53 http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/8237/screenshot04su0.png Aug 30 15:28:06 crashanddie: dunno, haven't installed anything :/ Aug 30 15:29:01 oh Aug 30 15:29:11 but you didn't get QEMU to run on the NIT natively Aug 30 15:29:28 crashanddie: someone probably could but the speed would be horrible >.< Aug 30 15:29:37 it only needs sdl for output :/ Aug 30 15:30:02 could be fun :P Aug 30 15:30:08 Running vista on the n810 Aug 30 15:30:25 what I really need to do is emulate os2007 though but that means I have to recompile qemu and I don't want to do that :P Aug 30 15:30:32 eew, I hated vista on my computer Aug 30 15:32:57 what is "vista" ? Aug 30 15:33:50 * qwerty12 raised my eyebrows so fast, they nearly ripped off Aug 30 15:33:53 http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-vista/default.aspx Aug 30 15:56:33 ubiquity is sweet Aug 30 15:56:41 you guys check it out Aug 30 16:12:30 mozilla or installer? Aug 30 16:12:31 :P Aug 30 16:26:37 ~lart debconf Aug 30 16:26:37 * infobot calls debconf on the phone ... the lights are on but nobody's home Aug 30 16:27:10 Stskeeps: Hehe, what's up? Aug 30 16:29:02 qwerty12: target: gtk dialog boxes instead of ncurses bases while apt-get installing stuff Aug 30 16:29:25 use gtk: requires a package that will use a ncurses box before it installs the support perl library Aug 30 16:29:53 i swear, if someone has the new dll hell award, it's debian Aug 30 16:30:01 heh :( Aug 30 16:30:19 I'm going to start work on backing up mtdblock4 from bootmenu Aug 30 16:34:59 Stskeeps: can't you force an answers? Aug 30 16:35:19 Stskeeps: like adding stuff to /var/cache/debconf/config.dat Aug 30 16:40:41 what's the #maemo logs url? Aug 30 16:40:53 ~topic Aug 30 16:40:56 http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog Aug 30 16:41:04 ty, can't always see it in this client Aug 30 16:41:16 it'd be nice to have a ubiquity command for that Aug 30 16:41:26 it's really good :x Aug 30 16:41:31 ah, me neither. I was trying to get a bot to list it... Aug 30 16:41:48 * qwerty12 just went and hit the /topic :P Aug 30 16:42:06 * johnx doesn't always remember IRC commands Aug 30 16:42:20 * jott uses irssi and sees the topic all the time :) Aug 30 16:42:21 it's the curse of gui Aug 30 16:42:22 * qwerty12 hardly knows any :) Aug 30 16:42:35 * qwerty12 uses X-Chat and sees it at the top Aug 30 16:42:54 what is this 3rd person crap, you can't all be that awesome Aug 30 16:43:13 :P Aug 30 16:43:24 * qwerty12 shoots elekt Aug 30 16:44:20 ~lart qwerty12 for being violent Aug 30 16:44:21 * infobot follow's qwerty12 with a gauntlet and ... scratch ... HUMILIATION for being violent Aug 30 16:44:30 haha Aug 30 16:44:36 ~curse johnx for saying that Aug 30 16:44:37 May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, johnx for saying that ! Aug 30 16:44:44 haqha Aug 30 16:45:40 ~qwerty12 Aug 30 16:45:40 well, qwerty12 is violent Aug 30 16:48:51 seriously this extension made my day Aug 30 16:49:25 ~ubiquity Aug 30 16:49:26 rumour has it, ubiquity is rubbish Aug 30 16:49:41 Infobot doesn't like it so I don't like it. Aug 30 16:50:02 steve ballmer started the rumour Aug 30 16:50:13