**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Sep 03 02:59:57 2008 Sep 03 03:33:20 The window animations on OS2008 make me laugh. Sep 03 03:33:36 They just scream 'Welcome to Mac OS 7' Sep 03 03:34:59 :P Sep 03 03:35:55 hmmm, never made that conection Sep 03 03:41:31 Did you ever run OS2007 or earlier? Sep 03 04:11:56 * johnx is still confused why there's a minimize button... Sep 03 04:13:36 you want to use that space for something else? Sep 03 04:13:54 well that'd be nice Sep 03 04:14:03 that's at least one more status bar applet Sep 03 04:14:18 What's the problem with minimize? Sep 03 04:14:23 Sometimes you want to minimize things. Sep 03 04:14:32 GeneralAntilles, nothing...in a normal window manager Sep 03 04:14:42 but it's redundant in this case Sep 03 04:14:47 No it's not. Sep 03 04:14:53 It takes an application out of the window cycle. Sep 03 04:15:02 So if I have a browser, XChat, and xterm open Sep 03 04:15:08 and I don't want to see XChat for a while. Sep 03 04:15:24 It may be redundant for YOUR use case Sep 03 04:15:26 But I use it. Sep 03 04:15:31 window cycle? Sep 03 04:15:42 as in alt-tab (or equiv) Sep 03 04:15:52 ? Sep 03 04:16:01 So, if I close the browser or minimize the browser, it'll show xterm Sep 03 04:16:04 and not XChat. Sep 03 04:16:31 but if you wanted to see xchat, why not just click on it? Sep 03 04:16:51 Meh, my fingers aren't always in that spot. Sep 03 04:17:01 Or if I'm closing the browser window Sep 03 04:17:28 ok, I'll revise that. "Largely redundant, but some people like it..." Sep 03 04:56:42 Stskeeps Sep 03 04:56:46 are u there? Sep 03 06:25:45 * XTL looks for Octave for diablo Sep 03 06:37:10 Maybe I'll have to get around to installing sbox again Sep 03 06:39:35 Stskeeps: Still need blkid? Sep 03 06:40:41 johnx: I agree, I'd rather have space for another applet Sep 03 06:41:55 Could use a proper calculator :) Sep 03 06:42:17 couldn't agree more Sep 03 06:42:34 though sliderule is somewhat usable Sep 03 06:43:29 That looks interesting Sep 03 06:58:36 so sad i missed the conversation about movies/tv a while back ;P Sep 03 06:59:12 lola rennt was good :P Sep 03 06:59:21 also "Coupling" is hilarious Sep 03 06:59:26 * rm_you sighs Sep 03 07:12:37 Coupling was a fun series. The real one, that is. Sep 03 07:12:46 Also: Spaced :) Sep 03 07:17:40 coupling > * Sep 03 07:18:11 I'm rewatching the entire 4 series for what must be the 4th time? Sep 03 07:55:57 qwerty12: could be inteeresting Sep 03 07:56:24 Stskeeps: will compile soon, I'm making busybox 1.00 even more smaller (I want a chroot binary in initfs :D) Sep 03 07:58:38 qwerty12: goal: "please insert sd card with the partition uuid on ;) Sep 03 07:58:48 labels might be better Sep 03 07:59:41 yeah, I can imagine people getting confused (including me) :P Sep 03 08:04:33 Hrrm... ~/.gtkrc-2.0 and ~/.gtkrc seem to get ignored, and ~/.osso/current-gtk-theme gets overwritten each time I log in. Sep 03 08:04:56 Any idea how to force manual gtk config to be used? Sep 03 08:10:47 qwerty12, would it be true that an app only shows on the maemo downloads page if it has files on its garage page? Sep 03 08:11:45 moontiger: No, that's not true. Anyone can create an entry in downloads.maemo.org Sep 03 08:11:50 moontiger: no, you can add an application to the maemo downloads manually. If you have it in extras[devel], make an install file or else use the option that is there when you are adding an application to link it to your garage deb Sep 03 08:12:17 hmmmmmmmmm ok i didnt see that when i used the builder thingy Sep 03 08:12:23 i'll look again ... thanks :) Sep 03 08:15:48 moontiger: build thingy? Sep 03 08:16:01 the auto-builder Sep 03 08:17:22 Right, there are four things: 1) an autobuilder which takes a source package and puts it in extras-devel; 2) a process which ensures everything in extras(-devel) has a .install file created automatically; 3) garage.maemo.org which provides project hosting facilities; 4) downloads.maemo.org which provides a web-accessbile set of pages describing applications related to maemo Sep 03 08:17:45 All of these are fairly independent (1 & 2 less so with diablo as the auto-builder is the primary way of uploading stuff to extras) Sep 03 08:21:34 Jaffa, so hmmmmmmm i cant see a way of adding my file to the garage section Sep 03 08:24:35 moontiger: no, you don't want to. You want to add it to downloads.maemo.org. If your project isn't hosted at garage.maemo.org, you can ignore garage entirely. Sep 03 08:25:12 good morning Sep 03 08:25:50 it is hosted at garage but isnt showing up on the downloads page :( Sep 03 08:26:43 moontiger: which downloads page? The one at downloads.maemo.org, or the "Project Files" at garage.maemo.org? Sep 03 08:26:56 either :| Sep 03 08:27:17 I herald you, my supreme master! Lead us into the light of your wisdom and power Sep 03 08:27:47 !botsnack Sep 03 08:27:59 infobot: botsnack Sep 03 08:27:59 RichiH: :) Sep 03 08:28:50 so anyway, i am about to get a new cell phone and i was wondering if there are any infos on a n810 successor with gps & phone functionality Sep 03 08:28:52 moontiger: so, you've uploaded a source package to the auto-builder? Neither of the others will happen automatically. If it's hosted in extras(-devel), there's no point manually adding it to "Project Files" in garage.maemo.org as your project's homepage should either *be* the downloads.maemo.org entry; OR you have a link to it on your HTML page. Sep 03 08:29:24 or any other maemo-based cell phone, that is Sep 03 08:29:24 moontiger: All you have to do is *create* the downloads.maemo.org entry yourself, once you've tested the extras-devel package and promoted it to extras proper. Sep 03 08:29:39 Jaffa, hmmmmmmmm but i dont have an actual package ... just the 3 files that i uploaded to the auto-builder (its a python app) Sep 03 08:30:14 RichiH: There're no rumours of any maemo device with anything other than Bluetooth, WLAN or WiMax connectivity. Sep 03 08:30:26 moontiger: the auto-builder will have built the package Sep 03 08:30:38 Jaffa: pity :( Sep 03 08:31:03 RichiH: not IMHO, put YMMV Sep 03 08:32:29 Jaffa, how do i get a copy of that package? Sep 03 08:32:37 moontiger: what is your package name? Sep 03 08:32:47 Jaffa: why not? Sep 03 08:33:04 moontiger: you don't need to get a *copy* of it; the downloads.maemo.org entry just points at the install file created for you in extras Sep 03 08:33:30 Jaffa: as i only have the outsider's view on maemo, i am interested why you, apparently a dev, would say so Sep 03 08:33:49 so it hasnt gotten into extras yet then? only still in extras-devel? Sep 03 08:34:13 (sorry to be asking a lot of dumb questions) Sep 03 08:34:28 you have to manually protome package to extras Sep 03 08:34:33 promote Sep 03 08:34:50 oh, and a minimally related question, are any nokia employees hanging out in here which i could poke about other nokia phone questions (not too much bugging and not obvious from the intarwebs) Sep 03 08:34:50 mikkov_, ive done that 3 times now Sep 03 08:35:25 moontiger: what is your package name? Sep 03 08:35:40 mgcal Sep 03 08:36:34 RichiH: http://jaaksi.blogspot.com/2005/09/770-for-surfing-small-phone-for_24.html & http://jaaksi.blogspot.com/2005/11/it-is-not-cell-phone-and-it-is-good.html . He works at nokia and you can see, 2 models on that a phone radio was never included.# Sep 03 08:36:36 mgcal is in extras Sep 03 08:36:46 oooooooooooo really? :) Sep 03 08:37:10 so it will show up on downloads at some point and i'll have my 2 minutes of glory? Sep 03 08:37:11 qwerty12: thanks Sep 03 08:37:19 http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/diablo/free/m/mgcal/ Sep 03 08:37:35 you have to add entry to downloads manually Sep 03 08:37:49 ahhhhhhhhhh do you know how i can do that? Sep 03 08:37:55 * qwerty12 wishes dpkg-buildpackage -nc would not run configure scripts again >.< Sep 03 08:38:14 go to the downloads page and there is a link Sep 03 08:38:25 i can grab the .deb file from that page and add it to my garage too :) Sep 03 08:38:30 thank you so much :) Sep 03 08:38:37 extras repo: http://repository.maemo.org/extras/pool/diablo/free/m/mgcal/ Sep 03 08:39:12 thank you for all your help mikkov :) Sep 03 08:40:20 just use .install file for downloads.maemo.org ;) Sep 03 08:40:29 mgcal on maemo garage doesn't have a file release though Sep 03 08:40:52 im doing it now liri Sep 03 08:40:54 :) Sep 03 08:41:12 moontiger: ahh cool :) Sep 03 08:41:19 moontiger: any screenshots available? Sep 03 08:41:26 you don't even need garage files, when you keep packages in repository Sep 03 08:41:33 but they are nice Sep 03 08:41:53 yes liri ... in the garage the homepage link goes to a page i set up for it Sep 03 08:41:56 mikkov_: right but before downloading it, it's nice to see project status (at least it is important to me) Sep 03 08:41:58 there is a screens hot Sep 03 08:42:27 liri: yeah that's a indicator if there is released files ;) Sep 03 08:42:57 its no big thing ... just my first lil applet to show google calendar on home screen Sep 03 08:43:07 mikkov_: or if the last release was years ago and then I know the project is dead :) Sep 03 08:43:08 more things to do to it but it is useful even now i think Sep 03 08:43:19 moontiger: maybe you should team up with khertan for a home applet for google contacts and notebooks Sep 03 08:43:43 liri ... i was going to attack the notebook thing next Sep 03 08:44:00 moontiger: awesome, I need it so badly Sep 03 08:44:08 i how would it work? Sep 03 08:44:19 see notebooks on the home screen? Sep 03 08:44:26 moontiger: and khertan suites of google apps is just amazingly useful but I guess he's a very busy man so it takes time Sep 03 08:44:37 moontiger: yeap Sep 03 08:44:50 hmmmmmmmmm simple droplist and viewing area? Sep 03 08:45:05 home screen stuff has to be relatively small Sep 03 08:45:28 moontiger: yep, where it's listing the notebooks and allows to expand the tree (the content of the items itself) Sep 03 08:45:38 moontiger: I have an idea for you Sep 03 08:45:43 shoot Sep 03 08:45:54 moontiger: do you have a personalized igoogle home? Sep 03 08:46:05 no but i know what it is Sep 03 08:46:15 do they have a notebook applet for that? Sep 03 08:46:25 moontiger: yeah, exactly what I was about to say Sep 03 08:46:35 im looking now Sep 03 08:46:39 moontiger: so it's pretty small and you can borrow the design Sep 03 08:47:40 ok liri i'll play with this and see what i can come up with Sep 03 08:48:01 might take a week or two tho im afraid as im hella busy with work right now Sep 03 08:50:05 i was also planning to make a time keeping app for people who work by the minute on contracts Sep 03 08:51:28 anyways off to bed ... its late ... nn all :) Sep 03 08:51:34 and thnx again for the help Sep 03 08:56:53 whats the ifconfig location Sep 03 08:56:57 ? Sep 03 09:00:00 it is /sbin or /usr/sbin Sep 03 09:00:40 If you are root, it will show up in the path automatically Sep 03 09:22:56 * qwerty12 adds my N800 to tugs uptime project :D Sep 03 09:35:10 qwerty12: thanks for the links. i see the point of add-ons and the 'do one thing and do it right' argument, but it does not align with the way i sse my tools & gadgets. the 'we do not want to be tied by the much more rigid cell phone rules' _does_ make sense, though Sep 03 09:35:14 unfortunately :p Sep 03 09:42:09 Heh :). For me, I actually like that reasoning :). I mod Sony Ericsson phones and all the sony ericsson phones I've had, the first thing I do is unlock them so I can use them on any network (I bought a £15 cable just to do this for one phone) and debrand it because I hate the awful restrictions operators put on phones. For example. on a W810 I have, they disable the funky animated menus and Orange (the network it was branded to) force you to Sep 03 09:42:09 use their fugly horrible menu. Sep 03 10:19:57 qwerty12: agreed entirely. (Although I have never bothered doing the debranding). Looking at a W890i as my next phone: small, 3G, Bluetooth but can be used as a high-speed modem by my tablet when I have both together. Perfection. Sep 03 10:20:11 RichiH: you'd look *dead* stupid with an N810 stuck to your ear. Sep 03 10:20:50 Lol, I used to get looks when I'd have an N-Gage to my ear :D Sep 03 10:22:45 Quite rightly ;-) Sep 03 10:23:06 Yeah :) Sep 03 10:26:52 you mean http://www.sidetalkin.com/page-1.html Sep 03 10:27:00 Xomap doesn't play nice with XDMCP enabled :> Sep 03 10:27:10 lol Sep 03 10:27:44 In the end, it messed up and I got annoyed so I grabbed a screwdriver and smashed it up Sep 03 10:47:45 jaffa/lardman which one of you are gonna choose a MILF (gilf?) as a running mate? Sep 03 10:47:59 lol Sep 03 10:48:05 * lcuk needs to know to make wisest choice Sep 03 10:48:25 and whos gonna offer free bacon Sep 03 10:48:38 mmm.. free bacon Sep 03 10:49:01 cannot vote on an empty stomach :D Sep 03 10:49:25 * qwerty12 will be :) Sep 03 10:49:38 heh, are you old enough to vote :P Sep 03 10:50:10 :P. Hopefully I can in this one :D Sep 03 10:50:24 If not, qwerty18 will be votinh Sep 03 10:50:28 *voting Sep 03 10:50:47 Jaffa: there's an "email this article" link? Sep 03 10:53:32 Can anyone view this? http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg19826511.600 Sep 03 10:53:46 I can Sep 03 10:53:53 Oh wait Sep 03 10:53:56 do you subscribe? Sep 03 10:53:58 I can't :P Sep 03 10:54:00 No, sorry Sep 03 10:54:03 ah, ok Sep 03 10:54:12 I thought you meant it wasn't loading for you Sep 03 10:54:24 nah, trying to show the page to the community list Sep 03 10:55:05 * qwerty12 <3's mtd-utils Sep 03 10:55:44 lardman: here you go ;) Sep 03 10:55:48 lardman: http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:KJJasZrtw8cJ:www.science.org.au/nova/newscientist/049ns_001.htm+%22How+can+this+happen%3F+It%27s+to+do+with+the+way+voters+are+allowed+to+express+their+preferences,+and+how+those+choices+are+turned+into+a+winner.+Most+elections+in+the+US,+the+UK,+Canada,+India+and+many+other+countries+use+what+is+technically+called+a+plurality+voting+system+(better+known+as+first-past-the-post)+for+single-winner+e Sep 03 10:55:48 lections.+Every+voter+chooses+one+candidate+from+those+standing,+and+the+candidate+with+the+most+votes+wins.%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=uk&client=firefox-a Sep 03 10:55:54 Sorry for the long link but it works Sep 03 10:56:04 Let me tinyurl that Sep 03 10:56:16 lardman: http://tinyurl.com/6yhcxq Sep 03 10:56:19 ah, good skills Sep 03 10:56:26 thanks Sep 03 10:56:30 np Sep 03 10:56:32 you evil content stealing scum!! Sep 03 10:56:35 :P Sep 03 10:56:42 Simple google search quoting the article Sep 03 10:56:56 hacker Sep 03 10:57:02 true :P Sep 03 10:57:09 qwerty12 is our 1337 h4xx0r Sep 03 10:58:39 Woo, Darius is back in weird mode Sep 03 10:59:08 back? did he ever leave it Sep 03 10:59:20 True :P Sep 03 10:59:21 i was certain his account was taken over by his dog or something Sep 03 10:59:28 and now he's back? Sep 03 10:59:35 hey guys - anyone using the homeip applet and having problems with it? Sep 03 10:59:44 witterin about iphone multitouch n770s and stuff Sep 03 10:59:49 lardman: seen his email on iphone? Sep 03 11:00:03 Khertan sent a nice email to him *grin* Sep 03 11:00:22 :) Sep 03 11:00:54 * qwerty12 should have put a rick roll instead in that tiny url :P Sep 03 11:01:54 ghehe Sep 03 11:02:01 bbl Sep 03 11:12:30 Mmm.. fortran Sep 03 11:17:01 "Cremated Remains Scattering from within a Beautiful Fireworks Display" Sep 03 11:20:29 anyone working with Eclipse and CDT, experiencing weird slowdown after working some time? Sep 03 11:21:01 there might be seconds of lag when I write code in the editor before the letters appear ont the screen Sep 03 11:21:23 see if the code-indexer is running Sep 03 11:22:11 at least with carbide(eclipse based, symbian c++ too) it's notorious for suckage(cpu and slowness wise) Sep 03 11:22:57 * XTL adds Mentor to the list of apps that emulate a tiling wm Sep 03 11:23:51 hmm, I think the slowdown has appeared only recently Sep 03 11:23:57 after some patch, maybe Sep 03 11:24:13 the code indexer might indeed be the culprit Sep 03 11:24:34 Mikho: you might try to nuke the code indexers files Sep 03 11:24:51 at least with carbide they sometimes needed that.. Sep 03 11:25:22 hmm Sep 03 11:25:28 how do I nuke the files? Sep 03 11:26:37 from orbit Sep 03 11:26:59 is anyone having problems with maemo mapper failing to dl google map aerial photos Sep 03 11:27:33 lbt, is it a recent problem or is this the first time you've tryied? Sep 03 11:27:37 hi btw Sep 03 11:27:43 hi Sep 03 11:27:49 recent problem Sep 03 11:27:53 (since last night) Sep 03 11:28:23 could they have changed the url scheme - and does it work still from the actual site Sep 03 11:28:31 intermittent Sep 03 11:28:55 and it worked from a browser Sep 03 11:28:56 sounds more like server problems than a specific app issue? Sep 03 11:29:01 until I used my tablet Sep 03 11:29:10 then the tablet stopped working after a bit Sep 03 11:29:13 :D have you been banned from google Sep 03 11:29:16 then the browser stopped working Sep 03 11:29:18 I wonder Sep 03 11:29:37 have they detected a mass download of maps for an area and banned my IP Sep 03 11:29:48 google do have that strange little "you are the robot haxx0r" message Sep 03 11:30:02 I managed to get that once at work, was fun Sep 03 11:30:18 Hey have access to google chrome sources? Sep 03 11:30:29 Any have access to google chrome sources? Sep 03 11:30:54 it may be that mm needs to be a bit more subtle... Sep 03 11:33:37 Anunakin: is this it http://src.chromium.org/svn/trunk/src/ ? Sep 03 11:33:40 hmmmmmmm xchat just locked up and stopped me from typing - perhaps its related to google lockout Sep 03 11:33:58 kulve, i read somewhere it was Sep 03 11:34:31 if you ever exchanged an IP addy with them they have a worldwide license to use it you know Sep 03 11:35:22 lbt? is that in relation to chrome source availability? Sep 03 11:35:55 nah - just pi$$ taking after readig /. this morning Sep 03 11:36:18 :D i dont like new slashdot Sep 03 11:36:42 default comments come up too restrictive and only show first 25, ive gotta keep logged in to get comments as i liked Sep 03 11:37:02 not sure I ever bothered to login Sep 03 11:37:33 bbl - work calls... Sep 03 11:37:44 cya Sep 03 11:41:48 Morning Sep 03 11:44:44 hi andrewfblack Sep 03 11:57:54 hi dneary Sep 03 11:59:45 hi Sep 03 11:59:50 lardman: ping? Sep 03 12:23:47 lo dneary Sep 03 12:26:53 hi Sep 03 12:37:08 Can claws do yenc? Sep 03 12:43:50 I have made, some packages for maemo: NSP2 (MathLab like), REminiscence (flashback game), newRAW (Out of This World game) e Geany 0.14 (dev/IDE) Sep 03 12:43:50 http://anunakin.blogspot.com Sep 03 12:47:50 if you feel that they are useful for people, you should upload them to extras Sep 03 12:49:27 No one has ported tcl to maemo? Sep 03 12:51:16 hm Sep 03 12:51:30 that'd be a killer feature :) Sep 03 12:52:34 it should be more or less compilable from debian sources Sep 03 12:52:46 have you tried compiling debian tcl packages? Sep 03 12:53:02 not a recent one, no Sep 03 12:53:34 Looks like there is a package.., not ready for end users. Sep 03 12:53:49 where? Sep 03 12:55:01 I'm searching maemo.org, but thistalks about the n770? Sep 03 12:55:07 So it must be old. Sep 03 12:56:24 firing the election keys to people... expect email :-) Sep 03 12:56:31 tcl support is probably only matter of compiling debian's tcl package Sep 03 12:57:02 I have yet to set up sandbox. Sep 03 12:57:27 there's a reason ;) Sep 03 12:58:03 How hard is it to do on OS X? Sep 03 12:59:11 probably too hard unless vmware runs with OS X Sep 03 12:59:35 Look like there was/is an n800 distribution... Sep 03 13:00:10 i could try compiling it today Sep 03 13:00:30 but no promises ;) Sep 03 13:00:42 :) Sep 03 13:00:58 I found a port for OS2007. Sep 03 13:03:10 )S2007 packages probably won't work on OS2008? Sep 03 13:03:19 OS2007 I meant. Sep 03 13:03:33 mikkov_: I think ... better do more tunning to soft before up to extras... for now I put all deb on my repo... Sep 03 13:04:02 I using tcl/tk on my diablo Sep 03 13:04:09 aMSN works nice Sep 03 13:04:28 xMaxima works too. Sep 03 13:04:48 lardman:= Maemo support curl. Can I get more documentation regarding same. Sep 03 13:06:13 Anunakin: you can still use extras-devel. Makes it much easier for people find and use sofware Sep 03 13:06:14 Anunakin: do you remember where you got tcl/tk? Sep 03 13:06:46 good example seems to be this tcl/tk hunt ;) Sep 03 13:06:52 :) Sep 03 13:07:08 I found a package for chinook. Sep 03 13:07:19 Will that work for diablo? Sep 03 13:07:30 should work Sep 03 13:07:46 http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14316 Sep 03 13:08:03 Says the only problem is no fullscreen. Sep 03 13:08:26 SO far I just need tclsh, so it should work fine for my purposes. Sep 03 13:08:51 Anyone here tried openbox? Sep 03 13:09:32 Wouldn't it solve the whole fullscreen problem? Sep 03 13:11:33 jeward: Wait ... I got it from ITT Sep 03 13:11:51 Anunakin: Is it hildonized? Sep 03 13:12:38 How do I find it on ITT? Sep 03 13:13:50 jeward: aMSN is not hildonized... for hildonize it we need patch tcl/tk ... but for me it is OK... better then nothing Sep 03 13:14:23 Yeah, I don't really need hilodnization either. Sep 03 13:14:43 Is this where you got it? http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14316 Sep 03 13:14:48 But I just use pidgin... more fast, more easy... less RAm... Sep 03 13:16:13 here: http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3659 Sep 03 13:16:39 Ahh!! WebCAM works well with amsn on Maemo chinook and diablo Sep 03 13:17:45 Ah, red pill mode... is that dangerous? :) Sep 03 13:19:09 Yes... Sep 03 13:19:18 I not us it Sep 03 13:19:39 I log as root and install with apt-get or dpkg Sep 03 13:19:59 It says to use the maemo Plain Tcl/TK 8.4 package, so it must work on diablo? Sep 03 13:20:15 because updates for maemo... is more secury ... using blue pill mode Sep 03 13:21:31 I using tcl/tk here Sep 03 13:21:36 on diablo Sep 03 13:22:19 Anunakin: From https://garage.maemo.org/projects/tcltk/ ? Sep 03 13:23:53 is this tcl8.4_8.4.16-4_armel.deb ? Sep 03 13:24:15 Not sure. Sep 03 13:24:43 This project on garage ... is broken? Sep 03 13:24:56 I don't know, I haven't tried it. Sep 03 13:25:14 I'm trying to find the best tcl/tk for diablo. Sep 03 13:25:40 I downloaded packages from another repo... not on garage... Sep 03 13:25:40 but I have a huge list here Sep 03 13:26:14 How I can see what is the repo for a package with apt/dpkg ? Sep 03 13:27:16 I don't think you can? Sep 03 13:27:21 jeward: aMSN on maemo is a nice ... option... I have the packge here... Sep 03 13:27:23 amsn_0.98b-svn9371M-chinook1_armel.deb Sep 03 13:27:28 Maybe in the logs? Sep 03 13:27:48 And the chinook package works on diablo? Sep 03 13:28:09 where is this logs... my fav distro is Gentoo... I a recent (because maemo) ubuntu user Sep 03 13:28:53 jeward: Many chinook packs works on diablo... Sep 03 13:28:56 I see your repo in my applications manager! Sep 03 13:29:21 I using Bora e some Mistral ... packages too on my diablo Sep 03 13:29:27 jeward, yeah, he's this guy from the internets! Sep 03 13:30:22 OK...I booting from SD card Sep 03 13:31:55 but, debian apps not works... you need recompile... because debian arm project uses very early packs Sep 03 13:33:59 dneary: pong Sep 03 13:34:13 hi lardman Sep 03 13:34:22 I was happy to see you be a candidate for the council Sep 03 13:34:39 thanks Sep 03 13:34:47 thought I should do my bit :) Sep 03 13:37:24 Is there a list of candidates so far? Sep 03 13:38:52 murrayc: the list is closed now Sep 03 13:39:02 Anyway, where is the list? Sep 03 13:39:12 * lardman just looks for a link to the ml, hang on Sep 03 13:39:59 http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail//maemo-community/2008-September/000736.html Sep 03 13:41:21 jeward: All packages and deps for aMSN on OS2008 are here: http://kakaroto.homelinux.net/~kakaroto/n810/ Sep 03 13:41:49 lardman: Thanks. I don't check maemo-developers every day. Sep 03 13:41:50 Anunakin: I'm lookin at them righ now. Sep 03 13:42:19 murrayc: np Sep 03 13:43:48 for WINKs works at aMSN you need install cabextract and gnash (or swfdec), I dont recomend you todo it... can consumes all you RAM and CPU and crash you system... Sep 03 13:43:54 Anunakin: Do you install from applications manager by pointing it to that address? Sep 03 13:44:09 No... Sep 03 13:44:28 first .. you must "become root" Sep 03 13:44:32 Anunakin: I have that address loaded in the web browser, but it doesn't download the packages? Sep 03 13:44:39 Okay, one sec. Sep 03 13:44:53 and use dpkg -i package_name.deb Sep 03 13:44:54 Oh wait, it is downloading one now. Sep 03 13:47:22 ok Sep 03 13:48:15 dl ... tcl, tk, libsnack, tcltls and amsn packages Sep 03 13:49:27 In progress, thanks! Sep 03 13:52:49 so I got this mail about a maemo community council vote Sep 03 13:52:59 where can I find information on the candidates? Sep 03 13:53:58 ptman: https://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Community_Council/Candidate_declarations Sep 03 13:54:54 jaffa: not exactly the fastest web server i've met today Sep 03 13:55:13 Jaffa: thank you! this helpfulness will be noted =) Sep 03 13:55:26 wait, there ar e7 candidates? and how many seats? Sep 03 13:55:26 ptman: heh ;-) Sep 03 13:55:31 timeless: 5 Sep 03 13:55:49 Or 3 if there are fewer than 5 candidates (not an issue this time, fortunately) Sep 03 13:56:13 what, there was a requirement to have at least 1 loser? Sep 03 13:56:49 timeless: no, an odd number of council members Sep 03 13:57:22 so 2 candidates = 1 board member? :) Sep 03 13:58:45 and board members are not allowed to abstain in any vote? ;D Sep 03 13:58:48 timeless: fewer than 3 means the election is suspended Sep 03 13:59:31 btw, can i complain about the template? Sep 03 13:59:42 there should be an hr between each candidate or something Sep 03 13:59:50 it's too hard for me to find them Sep 03 14:00:16 alternatively, you could stagger them Sep 03 14:00:23 using a 3 column table Sep 03 14:00:32 candidate 1 sits in row 1 cell 1 colspan 2 Sep 03 14:00:59 candidate 2 has an empty row 2 cell 1 and sits in row 2 cell 2 colspan 2 Sep 03 14:01:09 candidate 3 like 1, 4 like 2 Sep 03 14:01:36 timeless: are you talking about the candidate info page? Sep 03 14:01:39 yes Sep 03 14:01:46 http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Community_Council/Candidate_declarations Sep 03 14:01:58 hmm, horizontal bars by all means, no need to get too technical though Sep 03 14:02:16 whichever, i'm not picky, anything will do Sep 03 14:02:39 next time round we may have loads of nominations, then we'd have to do some more creative/useful displays Sep 03 14:02:57 it might also be nice to stick a :hover around candidates Sep 03 14:03:14 so if i :hover over a candidate, you give the candidate a border, or a background Sep 03 14:03:45 (top is above name, left is left of name, bottom is above next name, right is to the right of modifications text Sep 03 14:04:05 Anunakin: tcl works great, thanks! Sep 03 14:04:05 timeless: it's w iki... ;-) Sep 03 14:04:15 wiki=lame? Sep 03 14:04:27 though it should probably be locked while the voting takes place.... Sep 03 14:05:14 bergie_ / dneary: would've been good to have had a link to the council election candidates page either in the email or the web page. Surprised when I saw neither. Sep 03 14:05:23 * Jaffa is now wondering whether to vote for himself or someone better ;-) Sep 03 14:05:27