**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Dec 25 20:01:16 2008 Dec 25 20:26:48 evening Dec 25 20:27:48 hi Stskeeps Dec 25 20:29:41 finally back in my own apartment, but with gf's parents visiting :P Dec 25 21:15:08 cute, the vlc icon dons a "santa hat" during the holiday Dec 25 21:15:49 yeah, noticed that too Dec 25 21:19:25 I just thought it was the new icon Dec 25 21:22:57 * robink continues to miss lardman Dec 25 21:23:13 ? Dec 25 21:23:58 think he's just off for the holidays? :P Dec 25 21:24:02 Probly Dec 25 21:44:51 hi Dec 25 21:45:07 somebody here who got tiemu working? Dec 25 22:43:43 Is there a scratchbox equivalent for windows? Dec 25 22:44:05 http://maemovmware.garage.maemo.org/ Dec 25 22:45:26 Very nice thank you for the info! Dec 25 22:46:44 hello everyone, hope you had a great christmas! Dec 25 22:48:50 Indeed same to you! Dec 26 00:16:44 Stskeeps, ping? :P Dec 26 00:17:19 * mike_xcr ping timeout [99.9% packets lost] Dec 26 00:20:37 ping: packet found a bar, got drunk, took random bargal home to meet the family on christmas day, was rejected by its peers and now languishing in the gutter Dec 26 00:32:10 Is there a desktop plugin to display nba games like for cavs so I can see when they are playing? Dec 26 00:32:43 Can you find an image URL that has that info? Dec 26 00:32:50 Then you can use the web plugin for that Dec 26 00:32:59 But, no, there are no sports-specific applets. . . . Dec 26 00:33:00 Hmm good idea Dec 26 00:33:07 Okay thank you Dec 26 00:43:24 Can someone provide me a link to the web plugin? Dec 26 00:43:38 merkuralex, built-in Dec 26 00:44:04 Weird I have never heard of it Dec 26 00:44:16 It was enabled when you first turned on the device Dec 26 00:44:19 Weird* Dec 26 00:44:20 Web shortcut plugin Dec 26 00:44:25 Oh duh! Dec 26 00:46:08 Hmm anyone have an example of how to make a desktop plugin in python to display text simpley like homeip does with alpha? Dec 26 01:28:56 * jagernot waves Dec 26 01:29:30 *Waves* :D Dec 26 01:30:20 wassup merkuralex Dec 26 01:31:20 Nothing much just sitting here with my nokia while watching bond :D Dec 26 01:31:45 only 52 downloads of my app i poured my heart into Dec 26 01:32:01 What app? Dec 26 01:32:20 boxar - my music app for n810 Dec 26 01:32:32 there's a new app? Dec 26 01:32:48 ok if u insist .. http://www.poojyum.com/boxar Dec 26 01:32:51 And it happens lol I made one a long time ago for windows and got like 138 so far and its been like 3 months Dec 26 01:33:19 Actually 153 Dec 26 01:33:27 advertisement is what you need Dec 26 01:34:02 Yea I used softpedia but for maemo there is just maemo.org an internettablettalk that I know of Dec 26 01:34:02 if only someone can bloody bulldoze that eCoach ad i see since the dawn of time on maemo.org Dec 26 01:34:19 Lol! Dec 26 01:34:55 jagernot, Extras. :) Dec 26 01:35:21 GAN i submitted to extras..dont even know if its compiled yet Dec 26 01:35:47 Also note that it takes a little while for the Downloads stats to update Dec 26 01:36:50 that eCoach ad has got to go Dec 26 01:37:24 to make way for other apps. ok you are no: 1 but its not about no:1 in the free software world is it Dec 26 01:37:45 Agreed. Dec 26 01:38:23 Those may be rotated manually at the moment Dec 26 01:38:31 Harass X-Fade. Dec 26 01:38:45 X-Fade: move that eCoach please Dec 26 01:38:59 its been there too long and its killing apps that deserve some air time Dec 26 01:39:31 also we're nerds, and thus scared of exercise Dec 26 01:39:52 What does that have to do with anything mav? Dec 26 01:40:06 anyhow who tried my app ? :) Dec 26 01:40:41 I might when I free some space im not partial to music apps at all :/ Dec 26 01:40:55 free some space? its 82kb :) Dec 26 01:40:58 What language did you use to write it? Dec 26 01:41:05 ANSI C Dec 26 01:41:12 gtk Dec 26 01:41:16 esound Dec 26 01:41:17 Mmm Dec 26 01:41:48 aaaw the world wants yet another mplayer and pim and car fuel calculator Dec 26 01:41:52 not a musical instrument Dec 26 01:41:54 a sad world indeed Dec 26 01:42:20 Nah I just don't care about anything music Dec 26 01:42:37 try it merk Dec 26 01:42:41 I'll dl it in a moment Dec 26 01:42:43 i wrote it for those that care Dec 26 01:43:26 ok now i hope the whole thing works though...cos whenever i do rhetoric , some bug surfaces Dec 26 01:43:44 i wrote it for those that 'dont' care i mean Dec 26 01:45:51 Hey its 78kb to install you were wrong :P Dec 26 01:46:11 * jagernot slouches on the desk, one hand supports his head, the other hand drums the desk Dec 26 01:48:06 Dude this is great Dec 26 01:48:27 merci merk Dec 26 01:48:35 Even though I dislike anything that has to do with music its fun Dec 26 01:48:43 i told ya : Dec 26 01:48:55 Lol and I believe you now Dec 26 01:49:07 move over eCoach Dec 26 01:49:12 put boxar! Dec 26 01:49:28 it will be ages since i turn downloads up 1 by 1 Dec 26 01:49:34 52 downloads Dec 26 01:49:38 free software Dec 26 01:49:47 as in beer, as in freedom Dec 26 01:49:51 what has this world come to? Dec 26 01:50:11 is there a normal scale melody? Dec 26 01:50:28 u mean the whole 12 tone scale? Dec 26 01:50:43 Have you posted on the ITT forums? Dec 26 01:50:49 just cdefgab Dec 26 01:51:16 raga bhairav is C Db E F G Ab B C' Dec 26 01:51:29 i could add a major scale if u want :) Dec 26 01:52:14 not yet merk Dec 26 01:52:38 anybody try rhythms? Dec 26 01:52:43 press the esc key Dec 26 01:52:47 and play Dec 26 01:53:15 Yea its quite nice Dec 26 01:53:29 esc normally means cancel/break/stop ;) Dec 26 01:53:46 normally yes Dec 26 01:53:53 Yea who wants to stop its all go go go Dec 26 01:54:11 press esc again to get a new rhythm Dec 26 01:54:20 65536 rhythms to play with mmm Dec 26 01:54:24 you have an enter key or menu key or arrows or up down, but keep esc to go back Dec 26 01:54:32 16bit unsigned bit pattern Dec 26 01:54:51 lcuk: thot about that but that means i have to keep the keyboard open at least on n810 Dec 26 01:55:07 but if the kb is open you also have extra keys for doing things Dec 26 01:55:10 couple more things: pressing menu items also plays a sound, and there's no volume control Dec 26 01:55:47 mavhc: yep...volume control is global Dec 26 01:55:51 You could add holding buttons down like + and - keys should be able to hold them down for faster throbing speed changes Dec 26 01:55:55 ie u have to set it outside the app Dec 26 01:56:08 how does canola do it then? Dec 26 01:56:12 merk: u mean a key repeat? Dec 26 01:56:17 or X media player Dec 26 01:56:22 Sue lol Dec 26 01:56:24 Sure Dec 26 01:56:47 merk: for a moment i thought i had a female fan...Sue Dec 26 01:57:04 i tohught he was gonna get the lawyers involved Dec 26 01:57:12 lol Dec 26 01:57:17 Hahahah Dec 26 01:57:20 "your honour, the accused would not turn down the volume" Dec 26 01:58:00 canola doesn't repeat on volume afaik Dec 26 01:58:15 i wanted key repeat too on the throbbing speed Dec 26 01:58:23 it repeats on other keys tho Dec 26 01:58:24 jager, you should be able to control the sound within your app by simply reducing the amplitude of your final waveform Dec 26 01:58:27 on decay etc Dec 26 01:58:29 Would be ncie... Dec 26 01:58:31 anyone else have problems with canola unpausing and moving the position in the file to where it was originally paused? Dec 26 01:58:54 mavhc, isnt that the same with any app Dec 26 01:58:55 lcuk: yeah have to add that at some point Dec 26 01:59:15 cos too many lazy bums dont want to go and change the volume outside of the app lol Dec 26 01:59:19 jager, esound itself might have a volume option, its certainly a reasonable request Dec 26 01:59:22 Anyone know where the key and tap sounds are I wanna eplace them Dec 26 01:59:28 Replace Dec 26 01:59:40 jagernot, EVERY music app in existance has internal volume control, deal with it Dec 26 01:59:47 lol Dec 26 01:59:48 (well, everything logical) Dec 26 02:00:07 point taken lcuk Dec 26 02:00:11 will update Dec 26 02:00:24 but its not a motivating feature addition u know Dec 26 02:00:28 lcuk: seems to be only when canola remembers it was interrupted, then when I pause then unpause it goes back to that original time Dec 26 02:00:45 and 52 downloads Dec 26 02:00:46 yeah jagernot obviously, just when you are next in the area Dec 26 02:01:13 merk turned into 53 Dec 26 02:01:15 im just as bad with things Dec 26 02:01:23 is this counted from your homepage? Dec 26 02:01:26 or from extras Dec 26 02:01:34 from garage.maemo.org Dec 26 02:01:53 i think 1 more day of eCoach im going to eat my hands and legs i think! Dec 26 02:02:20 ecoach is available in extras, its listed in apps in h-a-m directly on the device Dec 26 02:02:49 no1 has to download manually Dec 26 02:03:11 i didnt count the number of downloads of liqbase before it went into extras, but it cant have been *that* high Dec 26 02:03:39 infact, i still remember sending out a few via email Dec 26 02:04:00 have to work on the 'marketing' Dec 26 02:04:02 of boxar Dec 26 02:04:17 if merk doesnt know it..then clearly the word hasnt got out Dec 26 02:04:36 jagernot, http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Remarkable_community_projects#Criteria Dec 26 02:04:54 how organised Dec 26 02:05:30 What now I was busy playing with boxar :) Dec 26 02:05:44 who uses their finger? I spend enough time cleaning the screen only using the stylus Dec 26 02:05:58 I use my finger Dec 26 02:06:11 I can't be bothered to get out stylus Dec 26 02:06:18 fingers are nice Dec 26 02:06:23 im going to add presets Dec 26 02:06:35 better than having oil on the screen Dec 26 02:06:36 Ooooooooo Dec 26 02:06:37 Lol Dec 26 02:06:43 Lol Dec 26 02:06:52 i like a touchable interface but you will have to take the stylus out of my cold dead hands Dec 26 02:06:59 GAN: thanks, i just cant edit and put a link to boxar is it? Dec 26 02:07:36 obviously the touch screen should go on the back of the transparent device Dec 26 02:08:07 mavhc, only helps with certain usage cases Dec 26 02:08:21 its not intuitive to have to reach round the back of a device all the time Dec 26 02:08:29 Need to just get a screen protector you can take off run water over and put back on :D Dec 26 02:08:38 you're holding it Dec 26 02:08:46 to be forced to hold it all the time would be awful Dec 26 02:09:03 jagernot, please read the criteria. Dec 26 02:09:13 have a touch on the front too then Dec 26 02:09:19 mavhc, I never use the stylus. Dec 26 02:09:26 You just need a real screen protector. Dec 26 02:09:34 GAN: i dont know if my app is on extras yet. i submitted it. Dec 26 02:09:39 GAN: how do i find out? Dec 26 02:09:43 Nokia needs to figure out how to make a more finger friendly screen with no smears magically lol Dec 26 02:09:51 only protectors I've seen make the display look crappy Dec 26 02:10:05 free robot hands with every n910 Dec 26 02:10:13 Gan:what protector do you use? Dec 26 02:10:16 https://garage.maemo.org/pipermail/extras-cauldron-builds/2008-December/004009.html Dec 26 02:10:21 [extras-builds] [diablo]: boxar 1.1-1 FAILED Dec 26 02:10:32 mavhc, then you've used some pretty shitty protectors. Dec 26 02:10:36 Try the Boxwave anti-glare Dec 26 02:10:52 jagernot, once it meets the criteria, propose it on the talk page. Dec 26 02:11:24 well ive actually edited the page ;) Dec 26 02:11:30 maybe it will be taken down Dec 26 02:11:42 Gan is a maemo pro O.o Dec 26 02:12:19 merkuralex, :) gan is imperial commander of the maemo community (officially) Dec 26 02:12:35 Ooohh shows you how much I know ahhahah Dec 26 02:12:40 * jagernot bows respectfully towards GAN Dec 26 02:12:53 Heheh Dec 26 02:13:07 jagernot, bring it up on the talk page once it meets the criteria, not before. ;) Dec 26 02:13:18 well.. Dec 26 02:13:26 Who here is using their NIT with pidgin to irc right now? Dec 26 02:13:44 merkuralex, XChat Dec 26 02:13:45 free or not free there is always policing Dec 26 02:14:10 Mmm I prefer pidgin with the led plugin :) Dec 26 02:14:18 ive edited the page Dec 26 02:14:22 to add boxar Dec 26 02:14:30 flouting your rules :) Dec 26 02:14:47 jagernot, you didnt even read the page you posted to Dec 26 02:14:54 ive not added the * though Dec 26 02:14:58 cos i cant do it myself Dec 26 02:15:55 except for not yet available in extras Dec 26 02:15:58 i think it meets Dec 26 02:16:01 criteria Dec 26 02:16:11 but i submitted to extras Dec 26 02:16:17 3 days ago Dec 26 02:16:27 yes, at 13:00 and it failed Dec 26 02:16:33 so you tried again 5 minutes later Dec 26 02:16:35 and it failed again Dec 26 02:16:57 All I can say is don't rush it friend good thinks come with patience Dec 26 02:17:12 Things haha Dec 26 02:17:28 hmm yeah i stand corrected Dec 26 02:17:51 lcuk: can i see what u can see? Dec 26 02:18:22 yes you can Dec 26 02:18:32 how how :) Dec 26 02:19:07 [02:09] GAN: how do i find out? Dec 26 02:19:21 [02:10] https://garage.maemo.org/pipermail/extras-cauldron-builds/2008-December/004009.html Dec 26 02:19:32 [02:10] [extras-builds] [diablo]: boxar 1.1-1 FAILED Dec 26 02:20:04 well Dec 26 02:20:07 hmm Dec 26 02:20:23 it stays in garage then at least Dec 26 02:20:38 this unix magic is just killing me Dec 26 02:20:51 but that went to your inbox as well Dec 26 02:20:58 nope i got nothing Dec 26 02:21:00 and you resubmitted it 5 minutes later Dec 26 02:21:17 no it was pgp key that was acting Dec 26 02:21:18 https://garage.maemo.org/builder/diablo/boxar_1.1-1/armel.build.log.FAILED.txt Dec 26 02:21:20 up Dec 26 02:21:32 can it build for chinook? Dec 26 02:21:36 cos i use chinook Dec 26 02:21:56 i have a really basic makefile Dec 26 02:22:51 pkg-config has to search gtk+-2.0 and esound **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Dec 26 02:59:57 2008