**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Mar 21 02:59:57 2009 Mar 21 03:39:04 http://blog.xceleo.com/?p=24 Mar 21 05:23:40 hey folks! Mar 21 05:24:46 what? everybody hates me now? Mar 21 05:24:47 :P Mar 21 05:25:46 xnt: ping! Mar 21 05:26:36 /ignore jaem_N810 Mar 21 05:27:45 :( Mar 21 05:38:58 jaem:pong! Mar 21 05:39:19 sorry i was cooking some food , parents are asleeps Mar 21 05:39:24 *asleep Mar 21 05:39:35 jaem_N810: http://xceleo.com/setup.html Mar 21 05:39:44 it will be slow :( Mar 21 05:40:02 I have to optimize the images Mar 21 05:40:39 damn G1 is flying along at 120K/s Mar 21 05:40:44 it's nice Mar 21 05:40:50 :) Mar 21 05:41:09 i'm so happy i ditched att Mar 21 05:41:15 i HATE att Mar 21 05:41:19 * xnt hates ATT Mar 21 05:41:23 it is a level of absolute disgust Mar 21 05:41:28 t-mobile ftw Mar 21 05:41:37 yeah.. in chicago tmobile is the shit :) Mar 21 05:41:43 * xnt got screwed by att Mar 21 05:41:47 so did i Mar 21 05:41:56 my laptop freaked out at me a few minutes ago Mar 21 05:42:03 i had to fight them for months to get my refund on a contract i gave no authorization for Mar 21 05:42:16 good thing I wanted to redo the install anyway - saves me troubleshooting it Mar 21 05:42:23 all i did was change my number and they started a 2 yr contract when i specifically told them NO CONTRACT. Mar 21 05:42:30 thay said on the web ui that I had unlimited data, but in reality I hada pay as you go :( Mar 21 05:42:41 do any of you folks now anything about smart card auth on Linux? Mar 21 05:42:42 xnt: yeah.. they are HORRIBLE Mar 21 05:43:01 i hate everything att related.. there is nothing that is good about att Mar 21 05:43:06 jaem: no Mar 21 05:43:10 hmm Mar 21 05:43:21 * xnt wants the iphone+android+t-mobile Mar 21 05:43:27 their cell phones... dish network... landlines... dsl.. it all SUCKS and the company is horrible Mar 21 05:43:28 I'm going to do an encrypted install, with other fun things Mar 21 05:43:32 i hope they go under :) Mar 21 05:43:43 so help me God NOBODY should ever bail out att Mar 21 05:43:57 jaem: I did a encrypted install once :) Mar 21 05:44:26 use debian Mar 21 05:44:34 they have an encrypted lvm install option Mar 21 05:44:57 Macer: So does ubuntu Mar 21 05:45:01 which i guess would be good for laptops ... or smut porn containing machines Mar 21 05:45:06 alternate cd Mar 21 05:45:17 xnt: nice. fyi, the blackberry Pe*a*rl wasn't made by Larry Wall ;) Mar 21 05:45:21 aren't they the same? Mar 21 05:45:36 jaem: download the ubuntu alternate cd or debian Mar 21 05:45:44 I use Arch Linux Mar 21 05:45:48 Arch FTW Mar 21 05:45:50 ubuntu = unstable debian :) Mar 21 05:46:19 * xnt uses gentoo on powerful machines, my xps is an exception Mar 21 05:46:29 i used gentoo for quite a while Mar 21 05:46:37 but i started to hate it.. it's not really good as a server Mar 21 05:46:40 gentoo for nit? Mar 21 05:46:41 xnt: Arch is Gentoo without the Gentoo Mar 21 05:46:49 fireun: yep, google it Mar 21 05:46:50 heh Mar 21 05:46:53 you mean without portage? Mar 21 05:47:07 building a kernel may take awhile Mar 21 05:47:08 Macer: have you used Arch? Mar 21 05:47:08 * xnt will try arch... maybe tomorrow Mar 21 05:47:20 it took 20 gentoo installs to actually figure out how to fly through the process Mar 21 05:47:22 how about freebsd for nit? Mar 21 05:47:31 it's meant for experienced users, but it's not masochistic Mar 21 05:47:33 no.. never used arch.. but then again i use fbsd for most of the servers i have Mar 21 05:47:34 how about.... Mar 21 05:47:46 Macer: it's really very nice Mar 21 05:47:53 so is debian ;) Mar 21 05:48:04 and ubuntu Mar 21 05:48:09 their primary philosophy is KISS - much more than any other distro I've tried Mar 21 05:48:10 then again.. for real world use i'd rather use centos or rhel Mar 21 05:48:29 and it makes *buntu seem bloated (even though it isn't) Mar 21 05:48:38 Macer: I use centos for my server (dell poweredge 2800) Mar 21 05:48:46 ubuntu just gets it done Mar 21 05:49:00 not much time spent at a debug view Mar 21 05:49:03 ubuntu kind of reminds me of redhat when linux was young Mar 21 05:49:03 fireun: I'm not criticizing Ubuntu Mar 21 05:49:08 "the easy one" Mar 21 05:49:10 heh Mar 21 05:49:14 jaem_N810: and I'm just contrasting (: Mar 21 05:49:17 it isn't bad though Mar 21 05:49:21 it just doesn't suit me these days Mar 21 05:49:23 i would just rather use debian Mar 21 05:49:32 pacman > apt Mar 21 05:49:43 waka waka Mar 21 05:49:50 every fever for a flavor of a linux Mar 21 05:50:16 personally I prefer apt, but I've seen pacman it's nice :) Mar 21 05:50:21 yeah Mar 21 05:50:43 Arch has nice schwag, too Mar 21 05:50:47 but compiling from source is better but its faster to apt Mar 21 05:50:50 apt's backend works, its front end is... a mismash and not allways smart Mar 21 05:50:55 * jaem_N810 wants the handmade silver necklace Mar 21 05:51:00 fireun: agreed Mar 21 05:51:06 i wouldn't go so far as to say compiling from source is better Mar 21 05:51:08 xnt: pacman uses binaries Mar 21 05:51:09 agreed Mar 21 05:51:21 oh ok :) Mar 21 05:51:30 i suppose you could tweak gcc settings a bit to get it to go .00001 faster.. but it isn't worth it Mar 21 05:51:33 xnt: yaourt is a frontend to pacman (bin) and AUR (community build scripts) Mar 21 05:51:43 only time i could see compiling from source is when your distro doesn't have bins for your cpu Mar 21 05:52:08 so anything that hasn't been accepted into repos can be automatically built if there's a script Mar 21 05:52:15 jaem_N810: is arch available for powerpc/ps3? Mar 21 05:52:19 and packaging in Arch is dead easy Mar 21 05:52:38 xnt: I believe there is a ppc port, but I don't think it's official Mar 21 05:52:52 I think it's unofficially-official Mar 21 05:53:25 * xnt arch will run perfectly on my ps3 Mar 21 05:53:34 http://archlinuxppc.org/ Mar 21 05:53:35 * thinks Mar 21 05:53:39 thanks Mar 21 05:54:59 my friend is going to dual-boot his Alienware laptop with Arch tonight :D Mar 21 05:55:06 jaem: ubuntu is too slow on my ps3: 3.2 Cell proc, 256mb ram, and no gfx card access Mar 21 05:55:14 : Mar 21 05:55:16 :) Mar 21 05:55:22 what's the best way to resize ntfs? GParted LiveCD? Mar 21 05:55:38 xnt: arch should work, but it may be fun Mar 21 05:55:39 jaem: do you think arch will work on my IBM R32? Mar 21 05:55:45 no idea Mar 21 05:55:56 does it support ibm_acpi? Mar 21 05:56:05 I've only used x86[_64] Mar 21 05:56:11 * xnt 's IBM overheats with linux :( Mar 21 05:56:17 xnt: let me remote one of my machines and check Mar 21 05:56:22 ok :) Mar 21 05:56:29 are you talking about a kernel module? Mar 21 05:57:23 ibm-acpi.sf.net Mar 21 05:57:32 I think so Mar 21 05:57:46 search ibm-acpi Mar 21 05:57:56 or just ibm Mar 21 05:58:09 * jaem_N810 is checking Mar 21 05:58:10 * xnt is sick of windows on his IBM Mar 21 05:58:14 lol Mar 21 05:58:15 :) Mar 21 05:59:35 jaem_N810: does arch have compiz? Mar 21 05:59:52 thinkpad acpi is there. I don't see anything else in the default kernel config Mar 21 05:59:59 you may have to recompile Mar 21 06:00:07 xnt: of course Mar 21 06:00:17 ok thanks, np I can recompile kernels :) Mar 21 06:00:37 the Arch repos are fairly large, but the AUR (buildscript repo) is massive Mar 21 06:00:49 so you can get most things Mar 21 06:01:03 ok now , my next reinstall on my xps will be arch :) Mar 21 06:01:23 and if you can't, write a buildscript, post it to AUR, and eventually, it might get moved to the repos Mar 21 06:01:29 I'm not sure of the process Mar 21 06:01:42 xnt: it's nice Mar 21 06:01:57 it's also cutting-edge Mar 21 06:02:12 although they generally keep the stable stuff too Mar 21 06:02:18 but it's rolling-release Mar 21 06:03:14 ibm-arch xps-arch eee-debian or arch(it depends on the usability on eee701) server-centos ps3-arch :) Mar 21 06:04:10 blanix Mar 21 06:04:22 oh and school server arch (ubuntu is to slow for amd duron 1.2ghz 512mb ram, and crappy graphics card) Mar 21 06:04:50 all my machines except my N810 and Palm run Arch Mar 21 06:05:02 I don't have my Palm running Linux atm Mar 21 06:05:15 I need to buy a new SD card - they're cheap Mar 21 06:05:22 jaem: which palm do you have? Mar 21 06:05:37 but not at the stores that are < 45 minutes away by bus Mar 21 06:05:46 xnt: Zire 72 Mar 21 06:05:51 oh ok Mar 21 06:06:07 is there an easy way to map my menu key on my N810 to Tab? Mar 21 06:06:20 it's annoying as heck typing in the console without a tab key Mar 21 06:06:36 dunno, don't have n810 with me Mar 21 06:07:13 * xnt uses an external usb keyboard when on irc or terminal for extended periods of time Mar 21 06:07:37 I'd like to, but I often spontaneously remote things while around campus Mar 21 06:08:05 jaem: is this maemo? Mar 21 06:08:14 or mer,ubuntu Mar 21 06:09:34 maemo Mar 21 06:11:19 jaem: sorry have to go to sleep, parents woke up :(, ask someone around here, GeneralAntilles , do you mind if you hel p him Mar 21 06:11:41 kk Mar 21 06:11:45 night Mar 21 06:38:46 I installed a couple of things yesterday via the app manager to my n810. Everything was working fine until this morning when I turned it on again. It wouldn't go past the splash screen progress bar thingy dingy. :-( Mar 21 06:39:09 so I had the brilliant idea of re-flashing the thing Mar 21 06:39:19 famous last words Mar 21 06:40:01 I now have a n810 that won't boot, and I can't flash Mar 21 06:41:01 oh and the weird bit... the only way I can turn the pig off is by taking the battery out! :-O Mar 21 06:43:11 ok I understand that I've completely fubar'd my toy and that it's all me own stupid fault. But is there anything I can do to fix this? Mar 21 06:46:43 ./flasher-3.0 -F ./RX-44_DIABLO_5.2008.43-7_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin -f sends the xloader image ok, but then it dies sending the secondary image with... Write failed after 0 bytes usb_bulk_write: Resource temporarily unavailable Mar 21 06:49:50 anyone have any suggestions? Mar 21 07:42:28 argh Mar 21 07:42:49 my N800 just got stuck in a reboot loop, when booting it goes part of the way of the progress bar, then reboots Mar 21 07:43:11 I'm heading out for a long trip in 30 minutes and was planning on using it for entertainment during the trip Mar 21 07:43:44 but there is no hope of getting it reflashed and have all the apps I had installed before then :( Mar 21 07:56:44 morning Mar 21 07:57:12 TPC: if you get progress bar it's hardly hosed :P Mar 21 08:00:23 Stskeeps, you have any suggestions then? Mar 21 08:00:57 TPC: well, if you get progress bar then you can definately reflash it, but yes, you're right, you need to reinstall and stuff :/ Mar 21 08:01:37 * Stskeeps goes take a look at his n800 which has vertical scrolling issue. Mar 21 08:44:57 http://internettablettalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=273468&postcount=9 <- sigh. Mar 21 08:51:51 <`0660> :/ Mar 21 08:53:47 wb qwerty12 Mar 21 08:53:52 Thanks Stskeeps Mar 21 08:54:03 * Stskeeps is currently preparing to reflash his n800 to see if the scrolling problem disappears Mar 21 08:54:38 I fear I may reap the "benefits" of treating my N800's screen badly soon too... Mar 21 08:54:58 yeah Mar 21 08:55:10 i was really cursing all through last night after i realized what it was doing Mar 21 08:55:24 felt like my dog died or something :P Mar 21 08:56:03 then again. i'm sure it will be just excellent for rolling text display, hmm :P Mar 21 08:56:10 hehe Mar 21 08:56:25 i'm sure lcuk can make some kind of effect exploiting that. Mar 21 09:34:41 wb meiz Mar 21 09:35:54 can i run fsck on a mounted drive Mar 21 10:24:42 http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/3372596780/ Mar 21 10:24:45 http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/3372596788/ Mar 21 10:33:32 Myrtti, do you use ovi? Mar 21 10:33:48 no, not really Mar 21 10:33:51 hate it Mar 21 10:33:54 you can integrate flickr to ovi Mar 21 10:34:12 Why? :-) Mar 21 10:34:21 It has problems I agree Mar 21 10:34:35 haven't seen any tools to integrate it to my Linux Mar 21 10:34:43 not that I've looked Mar 21 10:34:44 there are none, only email Mar 21 10:34:48 afaik Mar 21 10:35:06 the last time I looked at it I couldn't find anything from there :-/ Mar 21 10:35:20 Yeah Mar 21 10:35:25 I like the fact that flickr search is on search.creativecommons.org Mar 21 10:35:36 and that the licenses are sane Mar 21 10:35:48 OK, I can't comment about licenses because I am oblivious Mar 21 10:36:17 my pictures are licensed by default on upload as cc-by-sa Mar 21 10:36:31 ovi doesn't have a size limit, does flickr? Mar 21 10:37:06 I don't remember the current terms, since I've paid for flickr for several years Mar 21 10:37:15 but the pro accounts don't have restrictions Mar 21 10:37:16 oh it costs Mar 21 10:37:31 there is an option of not paying :-) Mar 21 10:37:31 ok, just a thought about the flickr integration on ovi.. I have to run now Mar 21 10:37:40 I mean I just thought about it Mar 21 10:37:44 Toodles Mar 21 10:39:11 hehe Mar 21 10:39:13 tata Mar 21 10:56:33 CAEK. omnomnom Mar 21 11:03:10 damn myrtti Mar 21 11:03:19 now I want cake Mar 21 11:34:59 morning VDVsx Mar 21 11:35:18 morning Stskeeps Mar 21 11:35:57 Stskeeps, do you have beagleboard's at your univ lab ? Mar 21 11:36:22 in my office, yeah Mar 21 11:36:44 Stskeeps, ah you have a office :P Mar 21 11:37:01 yeah, - student programmer at a research centre Mar 21 11:37:26 * Stskeeps glances at his tablet doing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcm5TYGwTwU and sighs. Mar 21 11:37:53 Stskeeps, besides the board, what should I need more, in terms of cables ? Mar 21 11:38:22 Stskeeps, wooo, nice hack Mar 21 11:38:23 lol Mar 21 11:38:33 VDVsx: no, not nice hack, my tablet is broken :( Mar 21 11:38:40 it does it in mer too :( Mar 21 11:38:52 :( Mar 21 11:39:11 but thank god i can still use it for skype, with a bit of target practice.. Mar 21 11:39:45 I seen something similar in a old CRT screen Mar 21 11:41:06 Stskeeps: That can be the flat cable that is a bit lose, I think. Mar 21 11:41:18 X-Fade: yeah.. i don't have a proper thing to open it with though Mar 21 11:41:23 but may be able to find one Mar 21 11:41:39 I guess that is your best option.. Mar 21 11:41:56 VDVsx: https://specialcomp.com/beagleboard/order.htm , IDC10 to DB9M bulkhead Mar 21 11:42:11 There is this website showing nudies of the tablet, so you know how to open it and put it back together ;) Mar 21 11:42:32 Or just grab the nokia l1 service manual ;) Mar 21 11:42:35 VDVsx: https://specialcomp.com/beagleboard/DSCN0394.JPG is pretty much what you need for extensive use , https://specialcomp.com/beagleboard/DSCN0394.JPG Mar 21 11:42:51 er, double paste Mar 21 11:42:53 qwerty12: Or that. Mar 21 11:43:12 <_allen_> VDVsx: hi, all Mar 21 11:43:25 hello _allen_ Mar 21 11:44:10 <_allen_> VDVsx: I don't have an Nokia N800 mobile, is this an requirement to apply the socialApp? Mar 21 11:44:51 _allen_, no, you can use the maemo SDK :) Mar 21 11:45:23 X-Fade: on the other hand, this thing is excellent for detecting if something is doing too many screen updates.. Mar 21 11:45:24 _allen_: It probably won't be as fun as when you have a tablet, but it can be done. Mar 21 11:45:38 X-Fade: cos the image is stable when a lot of updates are being done ;) Mar 21 11:45:43 Stskeeps: Heh ;) Mar 21 11:45:59 Yeah, it is synchro which is off probably.. Mar 21 11:46:11 <_allen_> VDVsx: can SDK be used to test the application? Mar 21 11:49:14 Stskeeps: I used to do the same in the window3.1 timeframe using a TSR program Mar 21 11:50:22 hehe.. if this was intentional it would be interesting Mar 21 11:50:23 :P Mar 21 11:51:46 i wonder if mer with the automatic updates works ok Mar 21 11:52:35 does it shift for every screeen update? Mar 21 11:53:18 i think it's really when it doesn't update or something Mar 21 11:53:30 but it's awkward Mar 21 11:53:35 .. i'm going to install mer to see something Mar 21 12:04:37 _allen_, yes Mar 21 12:05:14 the majority of the GSoC projects don't require the actual device, the sdk should be enough :) Mar 21 12:05:28 qwerty12 and b-man, are on the news again :) Mar 21 12:06:01 Lol, I am? I didn't shoot him! :P Mar 21 12:06:17 qwerty12, http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS3386655708.html?kc=rss Mar 21 12:06:34 :) Mar 21 12:20:43 hm, going price locally for N800 seems to be 100-150E Mar 21 12:20:49 (used) Mar 21 12:21:36 ah, yeah, used Mar 21 12:22:11 It seems slightly unobtainable as new Mar 21 12:22:21 yeah i guess so Mar 21 12:22:26 ah wait, one store at 200 Mar 21 12:22:54 still, a lot of cash :P Mar 21 12:22:54 i bought 810 for 180 EUR a month ago here Mar 21 12:23:11 aftermarket, but unused Mar 21 12:25:54 X-Fade: funny fact, it doesnt act up with automatic update mode, heh Mar 21 12:27:09 hm Mar 21 12:27:30 The question is, is it software problem or hw problem? :-) You'd think sw would reset with pulling out battery though Mar 21 12:27:43 Hi, the proposals for GSoC are closed and atm you have to apply to some published idea, right? Mar 21 12:27:45 ShadowJK: i think it's a HW or a kernel problem Mar 21 12:30:08 Stskeeps: Hmm then it sounds more like a software issue indeed. Mar 21 12:30:42 X-Fade: yes or no .. fb_update_mode auto heals the problem Mar 21 12:30:46 but is arse slow obviously Mar 21 12:34:15 diega, no Mar 21 12:34:30 diega, you can propose your own idea Mar 21 12:35:11 VDVsx: thanks, porting some application could apply or is just to easy? Mar 21 12:35:26 diega, depends Mar 21 12:36:26 diega, which app do you have in mind Mar 21 12:36:28 ? Mar 21 12:37:07 VDVsx, I was thinking on porting Comix 4.0 which is a totally rewritten of the already 3.6 ported Mar 21 12:38:54 diega, it should be a very easy task for a 3 month project Mar 21 12:39:12 VDVsx, yes, I though that Mar 21 12:45:36 hey yerga Mar 21 12:45:48 Hi qwerty12_N800 Mar 21 12:49:08 Stskeeps, tearfree fullscreen rgb scrolling o_O Mar 21 12:49:16 yes.. Mar 21 12:49:17 :P Mar 21 12:49:56 have you removed the battery and stuff Mar 21 12:50:32 yes, but now i've found that fb_update_mode auto will cure the problem.. not best way, but i dont want video on my tablet anyhow Mar 21 13:01:46 moo all Mar 21 13:02:11 baa RST38h Mar 21 13:03:17 it's like "yaay. no pants today" Mar 21 13:05:47 Stskeeps, manual vs auto mode. which is default in use in diablo Mar 21 13:05:53 manual Mar 21 13:06:09 ie the software itself decides when to call a refresh Mar 21 13:06:18 yeah Mar 21 13:06:31 which generally does a small patch update Mar 21 13:07:02 Auto, I've noticed, doesn't play nice with XSP. Mar 21 13:07:50 on the other hand, it's better than a dead n800 Mar 21 13:07:55 oh yessss Mar 21 13:07:59 fbreader updated Mar 21 13:09:05 * qwerty12_N800 recommends to backup /usr/share/FBReader/icons before updating... Mar 21 13:09:40 Stskeeps, so is this with default diablo itself or some frankenbuild Mar 21 13:10:05 Also, their version of libbz2 on their site is older than Nokia's version. Mar 21 13:12:39 lcuk: default diablo Mar 21 13:14:33 you got bootmenu thing installed Mar 21 13:14:45 yeah, now i do Mar 21 13:14:51 had to test mer Mar 21 13:15:09 and does that croll Mar 21 13:15:10 s Mar 21 13:15:32 yes, it does, occasionally Mar 21 13:16:13 congratulations! you have created an alien Mar 21 13:16:43 anyway, vanishing will bbl Mar 21 13:58:39 qwerty: new icons look ok Mar 21 13:59:00 RST38h: not to me imho Mar 21 13:59:01 qwerty: although I understand what you mean, they aren't that likeable Mar 21 13:59:07 just "ok" Mar 21 13:59:16 :) Mar 21 13:59:52 * RST38h does not like what has been done to the progress bar though Mar 21 14:00:05 the original progress bar (with chapter marks) looks way uglier now Mar 21 14:07:09 * rmt yawns. Mar 21 14:07:18 It's been a tough morning. Mar 21 14:07:22 indeed Mar 21 14:17:28 * Jaffa yawns Mar 21 14:17:38 morning Mar 21 14:18:58 * Stskeeps is updating theme stuffies Mar 21 14:18:59 * Jaffa thinks it might be "package libgee into extras" night tonight. Mar 21 14:19:24 Stskeeps: any new screenshots showing consistent icon sizes in the top bar, and using wazd's new templates? (Saw the artwork page: nice) Mar 21 14:20:39 working on the theme right now Mar 21 14:20:48 http://trac.tspre.org/meiz/screenshots/oxygen/screenshot03.png Mar 21 14:20:50 is quite close Mar 21 14:22:58 the personalisation window thing should really be transparent =) Mar 21 14:28:04 RST38h: like http://i42.tinypic.com/2ce3pz5.png :p Mar 21 14:40:45 qwerty: Naah, the background has to show through but not the other windows Mar 21 14:41:07 anyone know what puts the 'X' in the top left corner of an app - window manager - is it "hildon desktop" ? Mar 21 14:41:12 top right Mar 21 14:41:26 probably matchbox Mar 21 14:41:27 matchbox Mar 21 14:41:48 lbt: usually, but in mer it's HD Mar 21 14:42:30 ta - I'm debugging why Qt apps are kill -9'ed when X is hit... it's rude Mar 21 14:47:07 lbt: because if you kill 'em gently they are not guaranteed to die? Mar 21 14:47:47 it should send WM signals AFAIK... it's a bug Mar 21 14:47:59 probably in the maemo-isation of QT Mar 21 14:48:36 * RST38h scream DIE! DIE! and kills a QT application with extreme prejudice Mar 21 14:48:47 s/scream/screams Mar 21 14:49:26 oh so you do run Qt apps then :) Mar 21 14:52:35 * RST38h does it hypothetically =) Mar 21 14:52:43 (in WindowsXP right now) Mar 21 14:54:53 * lbt feels for RST38h and quietly lights a candle whilst offering up a few words to The Spaghetti Lord Mar 21 14:58:31 is there xkill for maemo? :) Mar 21 15:38:00 theres always something in the way of relaxing Mar 21 15:38:13 now the wii has stopped eating games disks Mar 21 15:38:58 * qwerty12_N800 's philosophy: iso's over disks Mar 21 15:39:26 somehow i dont think an iso would help Mar 21 15:39:34 or can i play from memory card Mar 21 15:41:05 I *think* you can play from memory card (don't own a wii). When I played on my old xbox, I'd transfer iso's over the network onto its hard drive :) Mar 21 15:41:16 no hard drive Mar 21 15:41:31 and no triwing screwdriver == unhappy jacob Mar 21 15:42:14 have you tried blowing into the slot? Mar 21 15:42:20 dust Mar 21 15:42:39 .. or toys Mar 21 15:43:02 i think its a sticker, some disks play, others make a growling noise that wakes the dead Mar 21 15:43:09 kinda like puttin a lolly stick in your bike ;) Mar 21 15:46:22 go to maplin and buy a tri-wing.... Mar 21 15:48:22 lbt, maplin kit with triwings are head adapters and are too large (girth) for the holes Mar 21 15:48:39 * lcuk investigated earlier Mar 21 15:48:49 ive ordered one from ebay Mar 21 15:49:00 lemme go look at mine Mar 21 15:49:04 I was going to say Mar 21 15:55:02 qwerty12_N800: you know much about themes? Mar 21 15:56:10 Stskeeps: not a lot Mar 21 15:56:37 But, out of interest, why? :) Mar 21 15:56:42 i just wonder cos well, i have a icon file in themes/X/images, but it doesn't override the icon from /usr/share/icons/hildon Mar 21 15:57:26 What icon is this meant to replace? Mar 21 15:58:12 qgn_grid_tasknavigator_others for instance Mar 21 15:58:41 Have you refreshed icon cache and rebooted? Mar 21 15:58:53 say how come default installed SDL lib doesn't play ogg ? Mar 21 15:59:02 mean sdl_mixer Mar 21 15:59:03 gtk-update-icon-cache -f /usr/share/icons/hildon , yeah Mar 21 15:59:05 and rebooted Mar 21 15:59:08 Hmm :/ Mar 21 15:59:17 and the theme did hildon-theme-cache Mar 21 15:59:18 r Mar 21 16:00:23 joyrider: OS2008 doesn't support OGG by default - only by way of a community package by kulve. I built the diablo sdlmixer which supports OGG here: http://qwerty12.maemobox.org/sdl/ but I wouldn't pass that deb around for people to install - I didn't do much testing on it Mar 21 16:01:12 i see so no ogg support basicly :/ Mar 21 16:01:34 what about mp3 files it doesn't seem to be willing to play that either Mar 21 16:01:41 or do i have to get the smpeg lib Mar 21 16:02:04 Yeah, it's not built with smpeg support either. I think I built one with smpeg for ukki somewhere Mar 21 16:02:18 i see so only mods then Mar 21 16:03:16 and i can't find any wav to mod converter, if that even exists :/ Mar 21 16:04:09 But for oggs, http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/diablo/free/s/sdl-mixeroggwav1.2/ exists - afaik, you use that as your build dep instead when building for extras Mar 21 16:04:23 Oh, I guess wavs too looking at the name Mar 21 16:05:08 hmm it already played wav's at least for sound Mar 21 16:21:37 bblater Mar 21 16:23:45 Stskeeps: Ok, I think I got it. In /usr/share/icons/, make a folder with the name of your theme and place the icon you want replacing in your icons/ folder with the same structure as hicolor and do a "gtk-update-icon-cache -f /usr/share/icons/" and reboot Mar 21 16:24:49 hmm, that's interesting Mar 21 16:30:59 when trying to flash the firmware of my N800 on linux I get the following error: "Unable to enumerate USB buses! Mar 21 16:31:02 " Mar 21 16:31:22 any ideas what could be wrong? the device shows up fine in dmesg, and usbfs is mounted Mar 21 16:31:36 .. and you're root? Mar 21 16:32:28 yes Mar 21 16:32:33 w Mar 21 16:32:55 Tried the perl trick here: Mar 21 16:32:59 note that this is on a home-made linux distro (loosely based on linuxfromscratch) so I may not have some udev rules or something that most distros have Mar 21 16:32:59 ~flashing Mar 21 16:33:00