**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Mar 28 02:59:57 2009 Mar 28 03:14:08 Finally! MaemoSDK+ installation Mar 28 03:24:33 Hey... anyone familiar with sdk+ Mar 28 03:26:33 What is your question? Mar 28 03:27:04 Well, I launch the gui for the latest diablo sdk (armel emulated), and when I click the application icon in the task navigator, the gui just closes Mar 28 03:27:27 Congratulations, it crashed. Mar 28 03:27:43 Anything else you would like to know? =) Mar 28 03:28:34 How can I make it not crash? :P Mar 28 03:28:49 use magic Mar 28 03:28:52 Hmmm... Mar 28 03:28:55 Can apt-get install that? Mar 28 03:29:57 The trick is to avoid using i386 Maemo imulation Mar 28 03:30:12 ásimulation Mar 28 03:30:18 Just debug on the real device Mar 28 03:31:56 But it's so much easier with maemo emulation on my computer... Mar 28 03:32:04 Trying to debug a task navigator plugin... Mar 28 03:32:10 It crashes. Mar 28 03:32:22 Also, it is not 100% the same Mar 28 03:32:49 I realize that, but I'd like to get it working if possible Mar 28 03:32:53 Ah, you are trying to DEBUG A TASK NAVIGATOR R PLUGIN :)) Mar 28 03:33:16 Have you considered that it might have been your plugin crashing it? =) Mar 28 03:33:36 Haven't even installed the plugin Mar 28 03:33:43 Much less enabled it... Mar 28 03:33:50 * RST38h wonders if sdk+ diablo boostrap is as buggy as before Mar 28 03:34:04 True: Then it just crashes on its own. Avoid. Debug on the real hw. Mar 28 03:35:30 *sigh* Mar 28 04:10:50 Ah, well... it seems upgrading to jaunty was a mistake :P Mar 28 04:14:14 "woops" Mar 28 04:14:32 its too pure Mar 28 04:14:38 You're telling me :P Well, I hope the regular sdk works on jaunty... Mar 28 04:15:07 what does "beta" mean again? (; Mar 28 04:15:26 Yes, yes... Apparently beta software on a beta OS = no-go... Mar 28 04:15:37 * fireun is still trying to get the video speed back after going to intrepid Mar 28 04:17:16 Well... this is going to take a good 10 minutes or so... Mar 28 04:17:35 time enough to go get a juicebox Mar 28 04:19:13 More like midnight snack... it's 11:20 here... Mar 28 05:38:54 what's up peeps? Mar 28 06:15:54 do you need to buy anything to use irreco on a n800? Mar 28 06:27:39 zakkm: No, you can steal it. :p Mar 28 06:27:55 I believe it does require additional hardware. Mar 28 06:27:56 seriously though. Mar 28 06:28:06 the description makes it sound so weird and googling Mar 28 06:28:10 it doesnt actually specify Mar 28 06:28:17 such play-on-words to me Mar 28 07:57:56 hannesw, if I can get libwebkit in -devel, would it be OK to use the autobuilder? Only thing I have reservations about is that the autobuilder uses Scratchbox 1 and you say libwebkit built in sbox1 crashes on CSS parsing code Mar 28 08:00:02 qwerty12: yes, that's my experience. Mar 28 08:00:11 but it's worth a try, i'd say Mar 28 08:00:31 if you get it to use a different version of bison like bundyo says, it might work Mar 28 08:00:42 I may as well go for it, I've got bison-2.2 in -devel and I think my rules "magic" should work Mar 28 08:00:56 would be really cool Mar 28 08:01:41 did you try it locally? Mar 28 08:01:51 No, I'm gonna try it now Mar 28 08:03:14 good luck :-) Mar 28 08:03:25 I'll enable VFP, hope the 770 users don't come after me :) Mar 28 08:03:31 Lol, thanks :) Mar 28 08:11:02 hmm, seems that my n810 has given up :? Mar 28 08:11:13 infinite reboot loop Mar 28 08:11:21 guess I'll need a reflash Mar 28 08:11:53 or, not Mar 28 08:12:29 but this is starting to happen more often Mar 28 08:19:48 reflash sucks Mar 28 08:20:13 * vasily_pupkin make full flash of his device only once Mar 28 08:21:03 hi, is xine compiled for maemo? Mar 28 08:58:01 * qwerty12 curses himself for not running dpkg-buildpackage with DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS="parallel=2" Mar 28 09:00:30 heh Mar 28 09:01:17 morning Stskeeps Mar 28 09:02:11 hannesw, think the bison trick worked, configure succeeded and config.log shows /usr/bin as first in my path. Now just to see if it finishes compiling... :) Mar 28 09:02:22 morning qwerty12 Mar 28 09:03:12 heh Mar 28 09:12:25 X-Fade, In the maemo-policy, the "B.3 Parallel option" section should be updated - it's been added to debian policy Mar 28 09:12:44 qwerty12, hit -developers. Mar 28 09:12:53 Eero and co. are in charge of the policy. Mar 28 09:12:53 Ah, ok, thanks. Mar 28 09:13:20 qwerty12, see section 1.4. :P Mar 28 09:13:49 Haha, thanks:P Mar 28 09:31:23 anybody know, is there any way to emulate USB keyboard? Mar 28 09:31:37 or generic HID device& Mar 28 09:31:39 ? Mar 28 09:32:40 hannesw, welcome back, I think the bison trick worked, configure succeeded and config.log shows /usr/bin as first in my path. Now just to see if it finishes compiling... :) Mar 28 09:40:07 hello gnuton... Mar 28 09:40:22 'morning lbt! :D Mar 28 09:40:32 lbt: how are you mate? Mar 28 09:40:46 I'm just running qtdemo against my fingerscroller ... and it works quite well so I'm happy! Mar 28 09:41:29 it is nowhere near as elegant as ariya's version though Mar 28 09:41:39 OTOH mine actually works ;) Mar 28 09:41:59 lbt: cool! Does it work also for horizontal and diagonal scrolling? Mar 28 09:42:04 oh yes... Mar 28 09:42:24 I was going to do a video... but I may just send you the patch to try Mar 28 09:42:35 it's not intrusive at all Mar 28 09:43:10 perfect... what do you mean with intrusive? it filters the evetns? Mar 28 09:43:14 single line insert to add a 'monitor' object in the constructor new QAbstractScrollAreaPrivateScroller(this); Mar 28 09:43:24 no, code wise Mar 28 09:43:35 event wise it is intrusive Mar 28 09:43:38 but Mar 28 09:44:11 it takes press/move events eats them and copies them into a queue Mar 28 09:44:20 then it replays them Mar 28 09:44:30 which means no events are lost Mar 28 09:45:06 sadly there are issues with movement calcs Mar 28 09:45:09 mmm too expensive to add them in the libs :/ Do you think? Mar 28 09:45:34 probably not - it is the same approach as ariya Mar 28 09:45:48 but more flexible Mar 28 09:45:50 I think Mar 28 09:46:07 plus, it is *very* easy to disable Mar 28 09:46:33 so I was thinking of integrating into the Qt settings manager Mar 28 09:46:51 lbt: the ariya code has been amputated by me of the queue... :D Mar 28 09:47:01 ah Mar 28 09:47:12 lbt: if you take a look of my lib patch I've removed the queue Mar 28 09:47:27 that's probably why it doesn't work... Mar 28 09:47:38 ahah :D maybe :D Mar 28 09:47:55 I have some questions Mar 28 09:48:03 the worst thing is that sometime it works. sometime it doesn't.. :/ Mar 28 09:48:09 lbt: ask me Mar 28 09:49:08 ScrollBar()->maximum() and friends Mar 28 09:49:30 internally Qt uses pixel size but this can be changed by setRange Mar 28 09:49:50 so we *should* do scroll_range.ry() = qabstractscrollarea->verticalScrollBar()->maximum() - qabstractscrollarea->verticalScrollBar()->minimum(); Mar 28 09:50:05 and then work on these values - yes? Mar 28 09:51:00 so scroll_start / scroll_range = fraction_value_of_scrollbar when we 'touch' Mar 28 09:51:18 we need to calculate fraction_value_of_scrollbar when we move/release Mar 28 09:51:53 fraction_value_of_scrollbar is related to child widget size Mar 28 09:52:21 so I am introspecting and using class-specifics to get size eg Mar 28 09:52:24 qscrollarea->widget()->width(); Mar 28 09:52:28 qtextedit->document()->size().toSize(); Mar 28 09:52:37 qgraphicsview->sceneRect().size().toSize(); Mar 28 09:53:19 (all this stuff is not in the 'fast path') Mar 28 09:54:17 all this is needed 'cos *I* think ariya's approach : horizontalScrollBar()->setValue(delta.x()); Mar 28 09:54:32 will fail if the scrollbar range is changed Mar 28 09:54:43 am I right? Mar 28 09:59:23 lbt: that's right Mar 28 10:00:05 good - that's where 99% of the extra weight comes from... Mar 28 10:00:14 being generic Mar 28 10:00:21 I've sent you the patch Mar 28 10:00:45 also I don't touch *anything* other than abstractscrollarea Mar 28 10:00:54 okay Mar 28 10:01:05 and then only to add this monitor object during init Mar 28 10:01:49 it might be a good idea to try the patch before looking at the code Mar 28 10:04:33 I took a look already :P ahah :D Mar 28 10:06:06 also, some of the code was designed to allow options like paperScroll vs normalScroll and constraining horiz/vert scrolling, turning kinetic off Mar 28 10:06:33 but that's not exposed as I didn't want to add any API Mar 28 10:10:53 Morning, all Mar 28 10:11:27 morn jaffa Mar 28 10:11:32 'lo Mar 28 10:12:45 morning, jaffa~ Mar 28 10:14:42 gnuton: fixed a bug where v.quick taps not handled... Mar 28 10:18:16 lbt: commit the patch :D Mar 28 10:18:31 lbt: I'm a bit away.. I'm cooking.. Mar 28 10:18:46 really? Mar 28 10:18:52 you happy with it? Mar 28 10:19:18 send me the patch :P Mar 28 10:19:34 to check it before Mar 28 10:20:02 OK - there's things I want to tidy up.... if this was git I'd branch Mar 28 10:20:18 you may get a few versions in the email... Mar 28 10:20:36 ping me if/when you get time :) Mar 28 11:06:28 Having fun with WebKit, qwerty12? ;) Mar 28 11:06:48 Indeed :/ ;) Mar 28 11:06:58 Need to keep updating the Build-Dependencies it seems :/ Mar 28 11:21:45 Morning, all Mar 28 11:33:19 mornin VDVsx Mar 28 11:38:18 damnit Mar 28 11:38:26 Google App Enginer Version 0-5-20090325.332364965460189648 Mar 28 11:39:06 I understand why most Google products are still in beta Mar 28 11:39:40 hi Mar 28 12:02:58 microsoft having problems with touchscreen gesture detection rates: http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/03/28/0252230 Mar 28 12:03:03 lbt, good read ;) Mar 28 12:05:45 holy crap Mar 28 12:05:49 I need to do my expenses Mar 28 12:05:58 lcuk: ta Mar 28 12:06:06 looking at the receipts, there's Ł800 worth Mar 28 12:06:28 crashanddie: why do i want to know that? :) Mar 28 12:07:28 zeenix, how about because you're part of a community, and a community also shares not-so-useful information such as what's happening in each other lives Mar 28 12:07:34 thats the problem, no. a human may guesstimate what someone is meaning based on own experiences and so on, while a computer just looks at parameters and tolerances... Mar 28 12:08:16 crashanddie: well yes but your bills is hardly something i want to know about at least Mar 28 12:08:19 zeenix, you see, some people actually enjoy talking with others, not because they also share very interesting information, but also because they simply care, or not, but even if you don't, just close your eyes and click on the right hand corner X, we won't hate you for it Mar 28 12:08:28 crashanddie: something very private, isn't it? Mar 28 12:08:33 not really Mar 28 12:08:36 it's expenses, not bills Mar 28 12:08:37 its only a real community if i can add things to YOUR expense account Mar 28 12:08:47 :P Mar 28 12:08:48 zeenix, if crashanddie's words upset you, /ignore Mar 28 12:08:50 crashanddie: i didn't really object Mar 28 12:09:06 crashanddie: notice the ":)" in my first message to you, i was hardly serious Mar 28 12:09:07 lcuk: income is private, expences are communal? Mar 28 12:09:32 We all get a share of crashanddie's reimbursement? Cool. Mar 28 12:09:34 haha lcuk... Told you'd I'd give you Ł50 if I keep borrow a couch :P Mar 28 12:09:36 my income is private, your expenses are communal Mar 28 12:09:53 s/keep/could/ Mar 28 12:09:53 crashanddie meant: haha lcuk... Told you'd I'd give you Ł50 if I could borrow a couch :P Mar 28 12:10:11 you can borrow a couch, ill just move it into the back garden :D Mar 28 12:10:33 you'd ruin your couch for Ł50? Dayum, not sure I want to sleep on that Mar 28 12:11:04 never said it was mine :D Mar 28 12:11:06 lcuk, I can actually do that btw, you know, stay over with friends/family and expense their costs? Mar 28 12:11:31 get to know the hiltons Mar 28 12:12:11 yeah, but something tell's me hilton's running costs are about the same as my company's yearly tax Mar 28 12:12:44 s/'s/s/ Mar 28 12:12:45 crashanddie meant: yeah, but something tells me hilton's running costs are about the same as my company's yearly tax Mar 28 12:12:49 its not the running costs as such, its the vet bills for paris's frontline Mar 28 12:35:39 Does anyone no where I can get a tablet Mar 28 12:37:35 chemist Mar 28 12:37:49 npatt0n, can you get direct from nokia? Mar 28 12:37:59 well it's on backorder Mar 28 12:38:16 I ordered one from cdw but it's back ordered til next month Mar 28 12:38:30 npatt0n, try buy.com? Mar 28 12:38:31 I was wondering if there was a place that had any in stock Mar 28 12:38:43 ok Mar 28 12:38:50 Myrtti, how do i pronounce your name Mar 28 12:40:28 thanks for the General Antillies Mar 28 12:51:17 bbl Mar 28 13:33:01 hi Mar 28 14:47:04 hello - what is the minimal thing I need to do to start a python script on system start on an N800 ? Mar 28 14:52:51 darkblue_B, http://wiki.clug.org.za/wiki/How_GNU/Linux_start-up_scripts_work for e.g Mar 28 15:01:51 GNU/Linux is unfortunate in a URL Mar 28 15:03:04 * qwerty12 apologises to mgedmin in advance for leeching all the logs of his server... Mar 28 15:04:22 yeah.. that's a lot of info there Mar 28 15:20:05 qwerty: Do you expect to find The Truth there? =) Mar 28 15:20:19 so your ubuntu install worked, RST38h? Mar 28 15:20:32 Sts: Seems to be working just fine, better than XP in fact Mar 28 15:20:41 RST38h, lol Mar 28 15:20:45 RST38h, that's a given ;P Mar 28 15:22:37 I decided to be decent. I didn't leech every log. Instead, I leeched the ones from after 15/09/08. Why? http://qwerty12.maemobox.org/irc/ (Newer version of http://outpo.st/irc/) Mar 28 15:22:48 hehe Mar 28 15:22:58 dear god Mar 28 15:23:03 am i the line whore? Mar 28 15:23:17 This is just stats from 15/09/08-today Mar 28 15:23:37 hehe Mar 28 15:24:06 Haha Mar 28 15:24:10 Stskeeps beat lcuk Mar 28 15:24:20 Bah, I'll do a yearly one. I spoke less lines this time than in jott's one :P Mar 28 15:24:24 thats only cos ive been doing more stuff outside of maemo :P Mar 28 15:24:52 and cos kotzcarny wasnt on freenode to waffle to Mar 28 15:24:58 Whoever wrote pisg needs to be stabbed. Mar 28 15:25:05 He/She Mar 28 15:25:22 ~stab pisg author Mar 28 15:25:23 * infobot runs at pisg author with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. Mar 28 15:26:49 ooooh Stskeeps you out-actioned me as well Mar 28 15:26:53 * lcuk will get his revenge Mar 28 15:27:01 * lcuk kicks Mar 28 15:27:04 * lcuk stomps Mar 28 15:27:11 * lcuk throws toys out of the pram Mar 28 15:27:28 Those stats suck, I'm doing one for the year :P Mar 28 15:27:33 yeah you are Mar 28 15:27:39 ive got a whole swath here Mar 28 15:28:03 If you really want to see the total lines, for now, add the number given in my stats to jott's Mar 28 15:28:39 "lcuk seems to be unliked too. He/She got beaten 5 times." Mar 28 15:28:41 :( Mar 28 15:28:45 thats all u that Mar 28 15:28:50 qwerty you are a bully Mar 28 15:28:54 ~bitchslap lcujk Mar 28 15:28:55 * infobot beats the sh*t out of lcujk Mar 28 15:28:56 ~bitchslap lcuk Mar 28 15:28:57 * infobot beats the sh*t out of lcuk Mar 28 15:29:10 Thanks Mar 28 15:29:24 * lcuk phones qwertys mum and tells on him Mar 28 15:29:42 hmm, I'm glad my random quote wasnt a recent mis-speak from #c++ : I wanted to interfere as little as possible with the children Mar 28 15:29:52 "Yes? Who is this qwerty fucker?" Mar 28 15:29:54 this ain't fantasy this it real irc . wake up Mar 28 15:30:32 you just can't go slapping around can you? Mar 28 15:30:43 in uk maybe.. Mar 28 15:30:54 *cough* happy slap *cough* Mar 28 15:31:39 thankfully that was a fad quickly replaced by "jailtime" Mar 28 15:32:09 and the setting of a whole police division tasked with watching youtube all day Mar 28 15:32:14 they need dangermoney! Mar 28 15:32:34 having to watch youtube videos all day? they must have high attrition and suicide rates Mar 28 15:32:35 qwerty get those stats up, errrr stat Mar 28 15:33:16 I'm waiting on wget to grab ~200 logs Mar 28 15:33:40 My conscience is saying no to getting any more than that Mar 28 15:33:58 from where? Mar 28 15:34:12 raw ones or processed html ones? Mar 28 15:34:16 mgedmin's logs. Take of the .html and you get the raw log Mar 28 15:34:24 cool Mar 28 15:34:47 when has your conscience ever stopped you before ? Mar 28 15:34:53 I just saved his page and used find and replace and awk to print about ~866 direct links to logs in a text file Mar 28 15:35:24 lol Mar 28 15:35:53 lcuk, "I just want you all to notice me and people to see that somewhere deep down, there's a decent human being in me - It just can't be found" Mar 28 15:35:58 ive got a single xchat log from my first day in xchat Mar 28 15:36:10 aww, that's so sweet Mar 28 15:36:20 not Mar 28 15:36:58 * lcuk passes qwerty a cuppy of orange Mar 28 15:37:13 dont take the lid off it Mar 28 15:37:25 * qwerty12 kicks it around Mar 28 15:37:49 bloody hell... I swear the autobuilder is slower than my computer: https://garage.maemo.org/builder/diablo/webkit_1.0-svn41128-1maemo1/ ... Mar 28 15:37:57 qwerty12: webkit is rather nasty Mar 28 15:38:30 I should have set arch: armel :/... Mar 28 15:50:02 http://qwerty12.maemobox.org/irc/ <- that's better. Generated from 28/03/08 - 29/03/08 Mar 28 15:51:56 Bitch! Mar 28 15:52:10 i Mar 28 15:52:10 hehe Mar 28 15:52:11 need Mar 28 15:52:12 to Mar 28 15:52:13 make Mar 28 15:52:13 up Mar 28 15:52:15 600 lines Mar 28 15:52:21 heh Mar 28 15:52:29 same effect in all irc channels when stats like that come up. line whoring. Mar 28 15:52:43 i didnt need to with jotts lol Mar 28 15:53:05 qwerty12, now we just need karma for it. ;) Mar 28 15:53:15 * qwerty12 fucking kills Macer and ^Tux^ - how dare they fucking take the fucking swearing that should be fucking me. knobs! :P Mar 28 15:53:19 GeneralAntilles, hah, yeah Mar 28 15:53:37 s/me/mine/ Mar 28 15:54:25 lcuk spoke a total of 401272 words! Mar 28 15:54:42 gobby northerner Mar 28 15:54:52 :P Mar 28 15:55:51 lcuk always lets us know what he/she's doing: 2257 actions! Mar 28 15:55:53 huzzah! Mar 28 15:56:52 qwerty12, i wonder if you could do something else: aliases, find a nice way to merge all the various versions Mar 28 15:57:44 I'm itching to do one from 2006 but I have a feeling that mgedmin will kick my ass Mar 28 16:29:53 * rmt yawns yawningly with a slight note of yawniness. Mar 28 16:30:25 how's the n810? Mar 28 16:30:29 sucks Mar 28 16:30:33 why did I get it? Mar 28 16:30:35 -.- Mar 28 16:30:52 luke-jr: cos it's leet? :P Mar 28 16:31:05 it's useless Mar 28 16:31:13 Stskeeps, Going well.. using it mostly for reading ebooks atm .. I discovered I like reading, just not carrying around books. :) And also for VOIP.. :-) Mar 28 16:31:21 hehe, skype is excellent Mar 28 16:31:34 N810 demands internet to be useful Mar 28 16:31:42 and wireless is too broken Mar 28 16:32:04 never works Mar 28 16:32:07 heh Mar 28 16:32:27 Stskeeps, Just using the built in SIP with smslisto.com .. same service I use for the landline in Italy. Will use Skype more for work, I think. Mar 28 16:32:36 WRT54G crashes every 5 minutes with WiFi and La Fonera usually just won't let me connect Mar 28 16:32:58 luke-jr, Your wlan router crashes with the N810? Mar 28 16:32:59 la fonera is shite Mar 28 16:33:00 :P Mar 28 16:33:00 luke-jr, don't blame the device for broken routers. Mar 28 16:33:05 rmt: with any wireless Mar 28 16:33:13 and crashes is a wide term Mar 28 16:33:14 GeneralAntilles: all routers are broken? Mar 28 16:33:25 luke-jr, all the routers you're using, apparently. Mar 28 16:33:34 Or you've just plain ignored all the troubleshooting advice I've given you. Mar 28 16:33:46 or maybe OpenWrt? Mar 28 16:33:50 but there's not much for options Mar 28 16:33:55 So far I'm not really seeing issues .. (although I did have some issues two days in a row with my home router's wlan dying.. but since it was working fine for days before that, I'm assuming it's not related to the 810) Mar 28 16:33:56 DD-Wrt doesn't support IPv6 anymore Mar 28 16:34:07 luke-jr: openwrt crashes on some chipsets for me on too much load Mar 28 16:34:54 I currently have an InternetEverywhere device (GSM I guess.. or maybe WiMax) connected to my laptop.. and Ubuntu's NetworkManager Share Connection setup in Ad-Hoc mode, and the 810 using that.. Mar 28 16:35:07 SIP calls worked too, but occasionally were a little laggy Mar 28 16:35:31 :o Mar 28 16:38:43 * rmt spent CHF 150 today on a 50% discount card for Switzerland .. travel is very expensive without it.. Still about twice the price of travel in Italy with it, I think. Mar 28 16:38:54 'lo jeremiah_ Mar 28 16:38:58 hello! Mar 28 16:39:07 /c Mar 28 16:39:12 wha? Mar 28 16:39:13 3 return trips to Zurich and a bus ticket and it will have paid for itself. Mar 28 16:39:33 there we go, clean irssi window. :) Mar 28 16:39:45 ;) Mar 28 16:39:59 rmt: yeah, similar with youth cards in .dk. they pay themselves quite easily Mar 28 16:45:04 hey qwerty :) Mar 28 16:45:24 hi jeremiah :) Mar 28 16:53:04 huzzah! https://garage.maemo.org/builder/diablo/webkit_1.0-svn41128-1maemo1/armel.build.log.OK.txt Mar 28 16:53:17 Now for the i386 build... Mar 28 16:54:04 * GeneralAntilles hands qwerty12 the sucker prize. :P Mar 28 16:54:47 I was always giving tips on what should be done to get it in extras, so I thought why not try it myself :P Mar 28 16:55:40 Although I see my parallel make option didn't make it through, I'll reboot and see why - no wonder it's building at shit slow speeds Mar 28 17:04:41 interesting to see if people do stuff with webkit. Mar 28 17:04:52 qwerty12_N800: Thanks for putting that in there. :) Mar 28 17:05:12 There's stuff, we just gotta get 'em to get it in Extras. :\ Mar 28 17:06:12 jeremiah_: np :). hannesw & Bundyo are having a lot of fun with it :) Mar 28 17:14:13 It would be useful if you could make it fast and small. Mar 28 17:23:50 Blown transformer . . . fun fun Mar 28 17:28:56 GAN800: heh, city transformer so no power in the house? :P Mar 28 17:29:36 A single branch shorting one stupid transformer will take down half the grid Mar 28 17:30:04 lovely Mar 28 17:30:32 The hurricanes are actually a good thing in some ways since they end up forcing them to upgrade the infrastructure to something from the later half of the 20th century. ;) Mar 28 17:31:47 I haven't done a rundown test with the UPS and the router recently, let's see how the battery is holding up. Mar 28 17:34:38 Faster response time than normal. Mar 28 17:35:09 really? Mar 28 17:35:44 GAN800: less lag on the cable(?) network, cos everyone else is off the grid? ;) Mar 28 17:35:45 Er, the utility company, Firebird. : Mar 28 17:35:49 P Mar 28 17:36:32 A couple cops moved into this complex a few weeks ago. That probably helps. Mar 28 17:36:50 heh Mar 28 17:37:09 and cops obviously never pirate.. :P Mar 28 17:37:57 What do you take them for? :P Mar 28 17:38:22 Stskeeps, dunno, but they'll definitely call the dispatcher to send out a truck faster. ;) Mar 28 17:39:50 hehe Mar 28 17:40:54 How the hell do I get nm to connect to a DUN connection. . . . Mar 28 17:41:13 nm sucks, it barely works for connecting me to an AP... Mar 28 17:42:53 I can configure a connection. . . . Mar 28 17:43:56 Somebody should tell Nokia to open icd2 with the justification 'throw these lintards a bone' Mar 28 17:45:36 GAN800: i honestly think ICD2 may be nokia's strongest asset on mobile devices, heh Mar 28 17:46:06 Stskeeps, nah, that award goes to browserd. *cough* Mar 28 17:46:23 Is 'mobile broadband' DUN or something more like MiniPCIe Mar 28 17:46:39 GAN800: it's connect through a serial port Mar 28 17:46:48 to a modem Mar 28 17:46:49 Ugh Mar 28 17:46:54 BT DUN? nfi :P Mar 28 17:46:57 blueman seems nice for this Mar 28 17:47:01 * GAN800 stabs Ubuntu repeatedly Mar 28 17:48:22 qwerty12: strongest asset as in that it actually makes most things more seamless than OSS solutions Mar 28 17:48:32 Stskeeps, sarcasm Mar 28 17:48:52 yes :P Mar 28 17:50:40 The Google results are now making me we to stab myself Mar 28 17:50:51 Ready for the desktop my ass Mar 28 17:53:04 is windows ready for the desktop? Mar 28 17:54:12 no way Mar 28 17:54:18 major usability issues Mar 28 17:54:27 GAN800: what do you mean>? Mar 28 17:56:19 luke-jr, I mean trying to peddle this heaped pile of steamy mush to mainstream is a joke. Mar 28 17:56:46 GAN800: yeah, GNOME sucks Mar 28 17:56:50 better push Kubuntu Mar 28 17:56:57 but what "Google results"? Mar 28 17:57:41 mavhc, I don't know, I don't use Windows. Mar 28 17:58:22 luke-jr, apparently it's not possible to tether without first wasting hours of your life. Mar 28 17:58:44 Something I can do pain free in Maemo and OS X. Mar 28 17:59:41 GAN800: oh, that's intentional I think âş Mar 28 18:00:43 Must be having more fun out there than I thought. 3 squad cars. Mar 28 18:14:50 These brainstorm comments are just bizarre. Mar 28 18:15:53 on ubuntu? Mar 28 18:16:29 Yes Mar 28 18:17:03 [: Mar 28 18:20:29 Hi Mar 28 18:20:38 Luis here? Mar 28 18:23:38 v6sa, which one ? :p Mar 28 18:23:55 Luis Felipe? Mar 28 18:24:37 is lfelipe[AWAY] Mar 28 18:25:12 thanks for the information Mar 28 18:40:40 They aren't seriously telling me people put up with this silliness day-to-day. . . . Mar 28 18:40:53 * GAN800 thinks he's switching to OS X. Mar 28 18:42:06 Why not install & use the lovliness that is Windows? Mar 28 18:42:29 * GAN800 shoots qwerty12 with a tranq dart. Mar 28 18:43:00 aii! OK, I take that back :P Mar 28 18:43:11 'lo yerga Mar 28 18:43:28