**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Apr 04 02:59:57 2009 Apr 04 03:01:35 ive read about the auto switching cables Apr 04 03:01:46 and the info about how to mod one to make it so Apr 04 03:01:52 what about it? Apr 04 03:02:18 jeez_away: They work. Apr 04 03:04:01 oops. s/jeez_away/jaem/ Apr 04 03:04:46 tank-man: I meant a store-bought one - if I have to buy a new cable anyway, I don't mind paying a bit more for one that works out-of-the-box Apr 04 03:05:05 I could mod it easily, but heat-shrink doesn't look all that good :P Apr 04 03:05:39 and there are a fair few different links to store-bought ones, some with people disagreeing about whether they work or not Apr 04 03:05:44 I just switch it manually with a regular cable Apr 04 03:05:47 even if you want to buy one they are pretty rare Apr 04 03:06:17 Shadow__X: is the switcher applet stable now? I was going to use it, but last time I tried it, it did Bad Things to my tablet Apr 04 03:06:28 it worked when I tried it Apr 04 03:06:32 s/Shadow__X:/ShadowJK/ Apr 04 03:06:33 jaem meant: ShadowJK is the switcher applet stable now? I was going to use it, but last time I tried it, it did Bad Things to my tablet Apr 04 03:06:41 okay, I'll give it a try Apr 04 03:06:44 again Apr 04 03:09:19 oh great... my junker box's kernel is "attempting to kill init", in revenge for killing one of my hard drives Apr 04 03:09:21 :( Apr 04 03:09:45 e.g. it won't boot Apr 04 03:17:39 lol Apr 04 03:18:03 oh great... now the RAM has declared a blood feud with the CD drive Apr 04 03:19:14 does KDE have an Old English translation pack? this is beginning to sound like a Shakespearean tragedy :P Apr 04 03:19:20 hey lcuk2 Apr 04 03:20:31 nah, they are too busy flaming eachother Apr 04 03:21:18 ShadowJK: who? Apr 04 03:22:02 The group that wants to spell things with 'y' everywhere, and the group that argues that it was just a typographical limitation of the early printing presses that shouldn't be retained in a current day translation when the computers are fully capable of representing the typography used before gutenberg Apr 04 03:22:12 I just made this up Apr 04 03:22:15 btw Apr 04 03:22:26 * jaem was wondering Apr 04 03:22:34 it didn't sound terribly coherent Apr 04 03:22:35 :P Apr 04 03:23:01 the Gutenberg press used Unicode, right? Apr 04 03:23:06 hehe Apr 04 03:24:36 cheers Apr 04 03:36:07 http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/04/nokias-new-website-helps-globetrotters-travel-green.php Apr 04 03:36:10 crazy green nokia Apr 04 04:14:49 so... I was transfering large files over wlan to my n810 when thevtrransfer stalled... Apr 04 04:15:56 the tablet's wlan was frozen, not responding to pings, yet not realizing it no longer was connectted Apr 04 04:17:26 when i switched ap with thhe connectivity iicon, something decided to unload and reload the wlan driver Apr 04 04:18:25 it'd be sorta amusing/scary if nokia had msde icd reload the driver to workaround bugs in it.. Apr 04 04:19:10 * ShadowJK wonders if the opensource onr recovers automatically or if it's worse Apr 04 04:28:04 aloisiojr: Did you get my message the other day on mamona? Apr 04 05:51:20 well.. just recently found out that zimbra jabberd needed a port open to send and receive chat invite requests from gmail Apr 04 05:51:30 now i don't even need to use my gmail account Apr 04 05:51:38 :) i just need to work on some skin hackery Apr 04 07:32:38 morning qwerty12 Apr 04 07:34:15 hey Stskeeps Apr 04 07:48:08 good moaning Apr 04 07:48:32 morning aquatix Apr 04 07:58:00 moo all Apr 04 07:58:07 moo Apr 04 07:58:10 baa RST38h Apr 04 07:59:22 RST38h: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jamiedivine/3407849510/sizes/l/ Apr 04 08:00:14 haha Apr 04 08:00:16 nice one Apr 04 08:00:28 Sts: Oh yessss Apr 04 08:00:58 and http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_t6rV3U9ZEHM/SdZooaA4zkI/AAAAAAAASeA/e7nOOJOPaOQ/s1600-h/WaldoIsEverywhere.jpg Apr 04 08:01:04 for the most messed up pics of today Apr 04 08:07:26 omg Apr 04 08:32:10 Is pygtk built with numpy in Mer? Apr 04 08:32:24 or numeric? Apr 04 08:32:34 hmm, good question Apr 04 08:32:36 lemme check Apr 04 08:32:42 it's the package from ubuntu Apr 04 08:32:56 Mypaint 0.6.0 requires numpy Apr 04 08:33:21 it looks like it depends on python-numpy, yeah Apr 04 08:33:45 at least the build, so i assume it is Apr 04 08:34:37 great - then i'll get the Mer sdk and start building :-) Apr 04 08:34:39 anders_gud: since you're probably nordic based, http://wiki.maemo.org/MozillaMaemoDanishWeekend , if interested Apr 04 08:34:56 Stockholm based Apr 04 08:35:12 (Mer is one of the focus areas too) Apr 04 08:35:25 hehe, what SDK? ;) basically, if it builds on x86 vmdk for you, it will build for armel in our builders Apr 04 08:35:38 slow machine Apr 04 08:35:47 no intel vt Apr 04 08:35:50 ah Apr 04 08:35:55 you can also just chroot :) Apr 04 08:36:55 give me a couple of weeks, or maybe qwerty will get at it before me Apr 04 08:37:13 recent mypaint that is Apr 04 08:37:16 *nod* Apr 04 08:37:42 when is mer 11 out+ Apr 04 08:37:46 ? Apr 04 08:37:57 monday, but i think the latest image is quite decent Apr 04 08:38:03 i just cut 50% of ram usage, heh Apr 04 08:38:35 i forgot to enable the GTK booster :> Apr 04 08:38:36 wow Apr 04 08:38:42 ah Apr 04 08:38:48 so, by accident? Apr 04 08:38:50 too bad :) Apr 04 08:39:00 well, it was never enabled correctly in Mer Apr 04 08:39:15 anders_gud: upcoming UI: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UtcGhei3cA , ignore the effect slowdowns Apr 04 08:39:16 i'll have a go at it then, is swedish keyboard and fn working? Apr 04 08:39:36 fn is, swedish keyboard you have to setxkbmap -variant fisenoda or something Apr 04 08:39:45 we need to make some kind of silly control panel for that stuff.. Apr 04 08:40:08 great thanks! Apr 04 08:40:08 i don't have a n810 so i can't do it reliably :) Apr 04 09:08:49 qwerty12: Tear was vala-based or? Apr 04 09:08:56 Stskeeps, yeah, vala based Apr 04 09:09:09 and uses webkit or how is it? Apr 04 09:09:15 But it uses its own webkit Apr 04 09:09:17 ah Apr 04 09:09:51 Either way, it's an improvement as he's been fixing the hildon support and it's a hell of a lot newer than the shit version ubuntu has in jaunty Apr 04 09:10:44 *nod* Apr 04 09:17:56 Jaffa: could you mkdir /data/lbt and chown lbt it for me? Apr 04 09:41:52 Jaffa: BTW I have spare 1x200+1x300 sata disks if you want them for badger... Apr 04 10:15:38 can anyone here tell me what is the difference between maemo sdk and sdk+? why we need sdk+,anything special? Apr 04 10:16:13 sdk+ is a new approach, which uses scratchbox 2 Apr 04 10:16:25 and why we need it is because scratchbox 1 is the boogeyman Apr 04 10:16:32 sdk+ is scratchbox 2. Some like it, I find it gives me a headache and prefer sbox1 Apr 04 10:17:27 * Stskeeps is really looking forward to OBS getting up and running sanely Apr 04 10:19:19 oh, 3x~ so the only diff is the version of SB? Maybe I will try sdk+ Apr 04 10:19:32 sb1 and sb2 is very different Apr 04 10:21:25 BTW, I see a SDK+ IDE plugin for Anjuta, is there also a Maemo SDK plugin for Anjuta? Apr 04 10:25:32 ~seen johnx Apr 04 10:25:35 johnx was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 16d 22h 6m 48s ago, saying: '(in the US) so long as you comply with the FCC regulations'. Apr 04 10:55:34 good morning Apr 04 10:56:31 morning wazd Apr 04 10:57:34 Stskeeps" hey :) Apr 04 10:57:57 wazd: http://internettablettalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=277347&postcount=4 <- might be worth considering btw Apr 04 10:58:06 could be good to have an artwork/ui guy around that weekend Apr 04 11:00:38 Stskeeps: well, I have some problems with my local army department so I can't leave Russia till I solve them :) Apr 04 11:00:47 wazd: ah, fair enough Apr 04 11:01:05 Stskeeps: don't know exactly how long would it take :( Apr 04 11:01:14 * Stskeeps is glad he got rejected for army service Apr 04 11:01:35 Stskeeps: well, I'm trying to get my rejection right now :) Apr 04 11:01:56 "look! i'm an artist! i don't belong in the army!"? ;) Apr 04 11:02:08 Stskeeps: hehe :) Apr 04 11:02:34 Stskeeps: In fact they can take me in even with my infinite headache and a whole in a heart :) Apr 04 11:02:53 hehe Apr 04 11:03:12 i just had to show them some pills i was on at that point and the doctor just said "how about we just skip the physical check and say that's that".. :P Apr 04 11:03:53 Stskeeps: well, since pills can't help me, I have nothing to show :) Apr 04 11:03:55 hehe Apr 04 11:04:11 but yeah, mandatory conscription here too Apr 04 11:06:32 I'm writing a feedback post bout newstyle.maemo.org now Apr 04 11:06:51 i'm slowly getting ready for 0.11 release of mer Apr 04 11:07:50 Stskeeps: hehe, Russian community finaly reached mer today :) Apr 04 11:08:00 good :) Apr 04 11:08:17 let's hope that brings some more hands to help out Apr 04 11:08:36 Stskeeps: nah, I don't think so :) Apr 04 11:08:49 Stskeeps: most of users want to have all and now :) Apr 04 11:08:52 hehe Apr 04 11:10:49 yeah.. it's difficult like that Apr 04 11:11:09 it's easier to feel like contributing to something that you can use day to day Apr 04 11:14:30 wazd, have you ever seen MASH? Apr 04 11:15:01 <3 M.A.S.H Apr 04 11:15:35 well right now i imagine wazd as looking like klinger Apr 04 11:15:51 hah Apr 04 11:16:00 mornin Apr 04 11:16:28 * lcuk2 offers minstrels around Apr 04 11:35:34 What's mash?) Apr 04 11:36:29 We have a name Masha here, same to Maria :) Apr 04 11:36:34 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068098/ Apr 04 11:37:34 jez Apr 04 11:37:39 wazd :D klinger wanted to be out of the army so bad he would wear dresses and do all sorts of strange stuff to show he was mad :D Apr 04 11:38:13 lcuk2: no, I'm definitely not him :) Apr 04 11:40:35 Jaffa: you around yet? Apr 04 11:40:50 lcuk 2 - the judgement day :) Apr 04 11:41:01 ~seen Jaffa Apr 04 11:41:04 jaffa is currently on #maemo (4d 16h 17m 17s). Has said a total of 35 messages. Is idling for 1d 3h 29m 51s, last said: 'Morning, all'. Apr 04 11:42:55 is there a way to automatically load kernel modules at boot time? Apr 04 11:43:11 init script Apr 04 11:44:44 qwerty12_N800, have you been doing more bad tagging? Apr 04 11:45:08 http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=277355 Apr 04 11:45:16 nope, just the two in that thread *grin* Apr 04 11:45:18 saw Apr 04 11:45:54 the troll was talking from his arse anyway Apr 04 11:46:06 qwerty12_N800: btw compcache is more stabler now on N810, I just compiled the latest svn Apr 04 11:46:47 LoCusF: sweet, I need to try it out sometime :) Apr 04 11:46:51 LoCusF, where does compcahe become useful Apr 04 11:47:04 is there a breakeven point or is it pretty much always Apr 04 11:47:26 qwerty12_N800: I'm updating my post in a moment for the latest modules Apr 04 11:47:43 lcuk2: eg. evince works like a breeze, only on text pdf though Apr 04 11:48:41 what does it change with app - i thought it compressed cache memory stuff, how can that make it faster? Apr 04 11:48:58 its directly in memory, not on some crappy flash Apr 04 11:49:48 but the system runs without having virtual memory turned on Apr 04 11:50:10 yup, this is when normal linux memory management comes in to play Apr 04 11:50:27 it swaps just enough to the compressed memory and then caches the rest (?) Apr 04 11:51:14 so in effect its doublespace for memory itself! Apr 04 11:51:55 not too sure about that :) Apr 04 11:51:59 heh Apr 04 11:52:05 is it completely transparent to the app? Apr 04 11:52:14 of course Apr 04 11:52:17 its just swap Apr 04 11:52:24 but its still unstable on N810 Apr 04 11:52:51 we should use jpeg compression for memory ;) Apr 04 11:54:33 if it would just work stably, it would be one solution to the inadequate memory issue on maemo in general Apr 04 11:58:43 http://tabletui.wordpress.com/2009/04/04/newstylemaemoorg-feedback-post/ Apr 04 12:01:19 ... Apr 04 12:03:31 .... Apr 04 12:06:15 webmaster fightclub? ;) Apr 04 12:06:59 I'm not offending anyone :) Apr 04 12:07:04 hehe Apr 04 12:07:40 better I'll point some of the mistakes and they will be fixed than I'll sit and do nothing) Apr 04 12:14:21 damnit Stskeeps sorry still haven't made it to the po yet.. have it boxed up tho :) Apr 04 12:14:44 so i guess that's progress.. was going to go yesterday but got sucked into my addiction trying to find out how to customize the zimbra skins Apr 04 12:15:29 think i got something usable this time Apr 04 12:16:45 lcuk2, ping Apr 04 12:16:53 pong Apr 04 12:17:06 * lcuk2 is reviewing proposals Apr 04 12:17:09 lcuk2, your comments are pvt :P Apr 04 12:17:20 scoring = pvt Apr 04 12:17:29 so only the mentors can read Apr 04 12:18:05 lcuk2, you can make one pvt and one public :P Apr 04 12:18:39 i thought now was the time to rate the projects :$ Apr 04 12:18:46 so i was doing Apr 04 12:18:56 lcuk2, yes true Apr 04 12:19:25 and i thought private was between myself and the student Apr 04 12:19:30 since its their proposal Apr 04 12:19:37 no Apr 04 12:19:51 pvt -> all maemo mentor can see Apr 04 12:20:05 but the student cant? Apr 04 12:20:15 public -> maemo mentors can see and the student too Apr 04 12:20:18 lcuk2, no Apr 04 12:20:41 * lcuk2 thinks thats a bit backwards Apr 04 12:20:45 but anyway Apr 04 12:21:00 ill redo them Apr 04 12:21:17 lcuk2, the system is very well designed and intuitive :) Apr 04 12:21:39 lcuk2, just copy and past the pvt commment to a public one Apr 04 12:22:52 i was doing, its not intuitive if the UI needs balloons and other things to explain and if ui elements only valid in one state are active and visible in all ;) Apr 04 12:23:25 * lcuk2 quickly sets up a proposal to streamline the UI ;) Apr 04 12:25:05 lcuk2, I was kidding of course, I had a lot of problems with the system too :( Apr 04 12:25:09 ugh. finally got a theme that doesn't suck in zimbra heh Apr 04 12:25:29 heh Apr 04 12:25:43 hard to come up with the colors Apr 04 12:25:53 plus i don't know how to change font colors so that extra sucks Apr 04 12:26:28 * lcuk2 is pleased he can change fontcolors in liqbase :D Apr 04 12:27:07 zimbra is getting better and better Apr 04 12:27:13 there is just one problem with it Apr 04 12:27:22 ? Apr 04 12:27:39 lcuk, I gonna eat something :P, any problem/doubt poke me Apr 04 12:28:05 lol enjoy Apr 04 12:28:16 Macer, have you seen my liqbase video Apr 04 12:33:28 * Stskeeps takes a look at powerlaunch again Apr 04 12:34:25 crap, gotta run Apr 04 12:34:26 bbl Apr 04 12:38:20 ok Apr 04 12:38:22 http://rafb.net/p/Se0ROd25.html Apr 04 12:38:24 which is prettier? Apr 04 12:38:34 no Apr 04 12:39:14 2nd one Apr 04 12:39:45 even with extensive scripts? Apr 04 12:39:58 (it doesn't allow line shifts) Apr 04 12:40:17 couldn't tell you.. i just think it looks a lot more compact from the staring at it perspective Apr 04 12:41:01 mm Apr 04 12:44:14 Hmm. Changed my access point this week, and suddenly battery life on the nokia is down to about 16 hours. Apr 04 12:44:32 Is there anything known that would cause that? Apr 04 12:45:59 maybe AP doesn't support energy saving? Apr 04 12:48:12 wee it's playable :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDz7XRne-7E now i just have to figure out a way to not create the 80 original levels by hand :/ Apr 04 12:49:10 hm, sokoban-tetrix mashup? Apr 04 12:49:33 it's actually a remake of gravnix (which is part of puzznic for the nintendo nes) Apr 04 12:49:51 i was first goana make the puzznic game but stumbled upon to many problems :/ Apr 04 12:50:05 so decided to do the gravnic one which is much easier :) Apr 04 12:54:31 blah. these damn zimbra themes are a fucking pain :) Apr 04 12:55:24 whats zimbra ? Apr 04 12:56:36 auto translate: : Gosh darn it. The themes for zimbra are overwhelmingly difficult to modify :) Apr 04 12:58:13 haha Apr 04 12:58:37 joyrider: collaberation suite.. does email. docs.. file sharing. im. al with a built in interface Apr 04 12:58:51 ah ok :) Apr 04 12:58:53 it's kind of like google mail ... well.. more like igoogle i suppose Apr 04 12:59:32 i am trying to modify the theme to make something a little more custom. then throw the sales pitch to my corperation to deploy it Apr 04 12:59:43 i am so disgusted with exchange Apr 04 12:59:59 i don't understand why people use it Apr 04 13:00:57 it's called brain damage, Macer Apr 04 13:01:21 haha Apr 04 13:01:33 i would say conformity Apr 04 13:02:25 * Stskeeps ponders if he'll get lynched for transferring powerlaunch to python Apr 04 13:02:35 it really is a sickening thing though Apr 04 13:02:43 then to get stuck in a meeting about it is like torture Apr 04 13:02:59 Stskeeps: just the systemui part, I hope? Apr 04 13:03:03 well... our email.. blahblahblah.. exchange... blahblah.. Apr 04 13:03:06 it's horrible Apr 04 13:03:08 ah well.. bbl Apr 04 13:03:16 qwerty12_N800: not mce, but i'm just wondering if it is more feasible in python honestly Apr 04 13:03:50 plus... when ou have to try to phone walk someone through fixing their outlook... what a waste of life Apr 04 13:04:05 Stskeeps: you'll be losing speed as it is Apr 04 13:04:19 i don't want to bother with that anymore... it is a lot easier forcing the entire co to use a web interface Apr 04 13:04:38 it takes a special kind of idiot to not know how to put an address into a browser :) Apr 04 13:04:51 so that eliminates about 85% of the idiocy Apr 04 13:05:09 and i will just have to deal with the "15 percenter" Apr 04 13:05:10 qwerty12_N800: yeah.. that is my worry Apr 04 13:06:26 plus zimbra has the word "collaberate" in its name... the co types can have a 4 hour meeting and wear the word out while i work on it and not go :) i swear some of the stupid shit these people say just make you want to reach over and choke them out just so they would shut up Apr 04 13:06:50 (end vent) Apr 04 13:09:15 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpD5AWej0Ho Apr 04 13:13:30 well.. last try right here :) Apr 04 13:13:48 hopefully this does it.... sure wish i could find the font color part.. but that is probably part of the css Apr 04 13:28:27 qwerty12_N800: on the other hand, http://bsd.tspre.org/~stskeeps/n810.py.txt vs http://bsd.tspre.org/~stskeeps/n810.conf Apr 04 13:29:10 (that is without any kind of sane parameterisation etc) Apr 04 13:29:52 i'm aware one is more compact than the other Apr 04 13:31:16 I still prefer the conf file :) Apr 04 13:33:04 mm Apr 04 13:35:02 * Stskeeps wants to get rid of the current config set though Apr 04 13:35:54 But anyway, I spend more time using the functionality of mce & systemui than I do editing systemui.xml & mce.ini. I just hope that the speed is decent as I wouldn't really wouldn't want to set up the C one again Apr 04 13:36:22 yeah Apr 04 13:36:51 i think it wouldn't hurt with whooping over the architecture a bit really Apr 04 13:48:40 ~seen GeneralAntilles Apr 04 13:48:42 generalantilles was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 1d 22h 5m 12s ago, saying: 'Later all.'. Apr 04 13:48:52 ~seen GAN8000 Apr 04 13:48:52 i haven't seen 'gan8000', Stskeeps Apr 04 13:48:53 ~seen GAN800 Apr 04 13:48:53 gan800 was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 23h 55m 34s ago, saying: 'It needs to be moved to a name that's not camelCasr'. Apr 04 13:57:28 Morning, all Apr 04 13:57:39 * Jaffa gets back from anniversary getaway Apr 04 13:58:38 wb :) Apr 04 13:59:49 Jaffa: ping me when you have a minute - I'd like to setup a data area and maybe install 'osc' on badger Apr 04 13:59:51 lbt: just seen your msgs from earlier. You should've been able to do it yourself, but requires you to be in the "users" group Apr 04 14:00:25 OK - I'm not 'messing about' until I get used to your admin rules ;) Apr 04 14:01:03 qwerty12: where did you take despotify source? from http://despotify.svn.sourceforge.net/src/ ? Apr 04 14:01:09 lbt: right, if you relog in you should be able to do mkdir /data/lbt Apr 04 14:01:23 will do Apr 04 14:01:34 lbt: what's osc? Apr 04 14:01:34 mikkov_: from their svn repo on sourceforge Apr 04 14:01:44 http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Build Apr 04 14:02:04 python wrapper to provide svn like service to obs Apr 04 14:02:07 Jaffa: we're doing a lot of experiments with opensuse build service Apr 04 14:02:20 probably the next generation of platform building :) Apr 04 14:02:43 (but I won't be using it to actually build) Apr 04 14:02:49 qwerty12: thanks, just bought spotify account :) Apr 04 14:02:54 (think of a scratchbox build service that doesn't try to strangle you while building in it) Apr 04 14:03:25 * lbt isn't so sure - his neck is kinda sore from OBS... Apr 04 14:03:39 so, what does it charge you in then? Apr 04 14:04:06 does it take your immortal soul or what? =) Apr 04 14:04:57 you need C# ... but apart from that it's fine Apr 04 14:05:28 RST38h: OBS (as far as i see it), when cross-compiling, instead of how SB did it, with taking broken user mode emulation and patching it with native packages until it somewhat walks, they actually fixed QEMU user mode emulation, so they start out by user mode emulation of the whole arm rootfs, and then accelerate gcc, m4, bash (and one other) Apr 04 14:05:34 and it works without a hiss Apr 04 14:05:40 RST38h: have a look here for my notes http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Build Apr 04 14:06:12 mikkov_: hehe, I'm a cheapskate and can only use wine... but when I checked out svn head, at beginning of this week, only the simple client would build :) Apr 04 14:06:20 the Standalone Project section is how you'd do it for an -extras type thing Apr 04 14:06:52 sts: ah, vice versa to sb Apr 04 14:07:27 lbt: I am on a phone right now =) Apr 04 14:07:28 RST38h: yeah, really looking forward to work more with it Apr 04 14:08:05 * RST38h would really just prefer proper crosscompilation Apr 04 14:08:20 * lbt points to OBS Apr 04 14:08:28 yeah.. but being able to build as you were on a really speedy ARM is good too Apr 04 14:08:38 pure cross compile won't work Apr 04 14:08:53 not until the world gets fixed :P Apr 04 14:08:55 too many apps build their own helpers which are needed as part of the build process Apr 04 14:13:13 https://build.opensuse.org/project/monitor?project=home%3Albt%3AMer%3A0.10 Apr 04 14:13:45 qwerty12: spotify client works perfectly with wine. do you have the binary for armel because I can't get it compile at all Apr 04 14:16:33 mikkov_: it's a bit sketchy on my computer: it crashes often for me. For armel, compile libao, set ao to use esd output in /etc/libao.conf and edit spotify makefile to use ao rather than gstreamer. also, I was compiling the old svn revision 229 Apr 04 14:17:14 But, no, sorry, I don't have a readily available binary Apr 04 14:18:30 libao is good starting point, thanks Apr 04 14:24:37 Jaffa: let me know if you're happy to install osc - if not then I'll try and get it going as a user-install Apr 04 14:25:07 lbt: you should be able to download and compile osc and put it in ~/bin Apr 04 14:25:34 it's a python and depends on a couple of other python libs Apr 04 14:25:53 Happy to install anything via apt-get, and can be persuaded about other things ;) Apr 04 14:26:22 have a look here for sources.list info http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Build :) Apr 04 14:34:24 lbt: installed, let me know if you need anything else Apr 04 14:34:38 * lbt bows down Apr 04 14:35:00 * Jaffa may start calling in favours for the "Community Council" thread onITT Apr 04 14:35:16 which one? Apr 04 14:35:24 * lbt is an email/irc bod Apr 04 14:35:52 There's a new "why didn't you vote?" thread, and I seem to have pissed people (in particular penguinbait) off Apr 04 14:36:16 * Stskeeps is expecting pitchforks in front of council HQ soon Apr 04 14:41:55 my cat is hungry Apr 04 14:42:05 I think she wants you all to know that... Apr 04 14:42:38 My cat is outside chasing flies :p Apr 04 14:43:04 ask her to send some to my cat Apr 04 14:43:51 lol, i'll ask, but I dunno if she'll oblige :) Apr 04 14:44:04 kilgdsazs Apr 04 14:44:15 * lbt is going to feed his cat Apr 04 14:52:13 RST38h: hey Apr 04 14:52:36 Stskeeps: btw, have you decided what style desktop applets will have in Mer? Apr 04 14:52:52 Stskeeps: indefinite like maemo or more like n97? Apr 04 14:52:54 wazd: no, i thought they pretty much make their own layout? Apr 04 14:53:38 i might be wrong Apr 04 14:54:21 I just want to make desktop to look clean Apr 04 14:54:50 wazd, then make clean applets :) Apr 04 14:55:21 give me a mockup :) Apr 04 14:55:32 lcuk: lots of different 'clean" applets could make great mess Apr 04 14:55:44 thankfully thats for the user to choose :) Apr 04 14:56:13 ie if you make a set of your best applet designs and a user decides to put them ontop of a pink cow, thats their choice Apr 04 14:56:20 What I want is not to give user an option "I need some weird mess on my desktop" Apr 04 14:56:56 wazd: we have drag lock, that's a start :P Apr 04 14:58:00 Stskeeps: We should make an easy shortcut addition I think Apr 04 14:58:07 wazd: moo! Apr 04 14:58:19 wazd: how are things? Apr 04 14:58:37 ok. think i got it Apr 04 14:58:46 once i get home i will start working on a logo Apr 04 14:58:57 i need to figure out how to edit css files and change it dramatically Apr 04 15:00:27 Hello ! Apr 04 15:00:30 lo Khertan_n810 Apr 04 15:00:39 lo stskeeps Apr 04 15:00:46 i would love to get rid of the stupid yahoo stuff too Apr 04 15:00:52 you saw the call for registration for the danish developer weekend, Khertan_n810? Apr 04 15:01:10 the call registration ? Apr 04 15:01:12 nope Apr 04 15:01:47 Khertan_n810: http://maemo.org/news/announcements/developer_call_mozilla_maemo_danish_weekend/ Apr 04 15:02:24 Mozilla/Maemo (+extras)/Mer Apr 04 15:04:05 i mainly see fennec/maemo5 Apr 04 15:04:24 yeah - but mer is also a side of maemo :) Apr 04 15:04:43 of course Apr 04 15:05:02 Khertan_n810, i think your gtk performance issues will subside with m5 and the new devices and the hard work you have put in to make them good on this platform will doubley pay off on the new one Apr 04 15:05:11 (i'm participating, and hope to enlist some people willing to hack for a weekend for Mer as well) Apr 04 15:05:13 so come to the meeting! Apr 04 15:05:26 h�h� lo lcuk Apr 04 15:06:07 \o Apr 04 15:06:13 but i don t know yet if i ll could come Apr 04 15:06:27 i ve already many holiday :) Apr 04 15:06:34 there'll be information on sponsorship and so on later i think Apr 04 15:06:36 could/can Apr 04 15:13:17 do you think it ll be an important meeting like the summit ? Apr 04 15:13:28 i think it'll be more about code than about presentations Apr 04 15:13:40 networking, coding and getting things accomplished Apr 04 15:14:29 RST38h: http://s60.radikal.ru/i167/0904/48/0c63768ad22e.png Apr 04 15:14:40 RST38h: that's how 160x160 layout looks Apr 04 15:16:26 what do you think of an ui like that : khertan.net/poubelle/screenshot19.png ? Apr 04 15:16:34 this is mTodos :) Apr 04 15:16:43 interesting Apr 04 15:16:56 Stskeeps: so it could be interesting Apr 04 15:16:56 Khertan_n810: saw the new mer ui screenshots btw? Apr 04 15:17:10 not yet Apr 04 15:19:05 Khertan_n810: http://bsd.tspre.org/~stskeeps/screenshot03.png Apr 04 15:20:31 haha ... No IP ... this look like HomeIP :) Apr 04 15:20:46 nice screenshots Apr 04 15:21:40 and http://www.daimi.au.dk/~cvm/mer-mirage.png Apr 04 15:22:41 It seems nothing particularly productive happened over the past two days. Apr 04 15:22:50 ? Apr 04 15:23:03 GAN800 ... are you kidding ? Apr 04 15:23:14