**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jun 29 02:59:56 2009 Jun 29 02:59:59 ahh thanks Jun 29 03:00:01 it's on the second page of character chart Jun 29 03:00:06 cool Jun 29 03:00:09 found it Jun 29 03:00:25 also handy to know that tab is on the first page of the character chart :D Jun 29 03:00:26 duh Jun 29 03:00:30 I setup the Yen symbol to be | Jun 29 03:00:34 pitiful right there in front of me Jun 29 03:00:38 and Fullscreen to be tab Jun 29 03:00:56 luke-jr: there is actually :P the same chip also handles sim cards :) Jun 29 03:01:09 not connected to anything on n810, of course Jun 29 03:01:24 ShadowJK: why would the N810 contain a chip that isn't connected to anything? Jun 29 03:01:45 comhack, the wikipedia pages are reasonably accurate. Jun 29 03:02:00 Luke-Jr, battery charging. Jun 29 03:02:01 cool thanks GeneralAntilles Jun 29 03:02:08 Cheaper to recycle parts from other Nokia platforms. Jun 29 03:02:23 luke-jr: it does a bunch of other stuff too. the sound, codecs and sim card stuff on the chip isn't connected to anything though Jun 29 03:02:42 O.o Jun 29 03:02:49 nokia reused phone chips instead of designing new ones Jun 29 03:02:56 the battery charging has a chip? and it does audio/codecs/SIM? Jun 29 03:03:08 wtf is BME for if there's a dedicated chip Jun 29 03:03:16 GeneralAntilles: those are just the general specs all pages usually show. I was looking for the exact specs audio, video, bluetooth, etc chipset but did not realize that they are built into the chip Jun 29 03:03:19 BB5 Jun 29 03:03:22 yeah it has a chip... might have two actually Jun 29 03:03:32 Luke-Jr, the chip doesn't contain anything but the most basic protection logic. Jun 29 03:03:47 But something has to be told to handle the voltage scaling and such. . . . Jun 29 03:03:57 Voltage scaling can't magically be done by the OMAP2 Jun 29 03:04:06 hmm Jun 29 03:04:13 so why didn't they use the sound functionality? :/ Jun 29 03:04:28 Because it's hooked up to the OMAP2. . . . Jun 29 03:04:38 so? Jun 29 03:04:41 the specs I saw seem to suggest it turns things on at 2.something volt, which is too low for all the n810 components to run on, and too low for the battery to be safe, and too low for the battery to last through boot Jun 29 03:04:50 OMAP2 sound takes off CPU time Jun 29 03:05:11 Yeah, it's lower level than that. . . . Jun 29 03:05:17 hmm Jun 29 03:05:25 considering how much people whine about the external display controller... Jun 29 03:05:41 i.e., it's basically a headphone amp, not a sound controller. . . . Jun 29 03:05:46 speaking of sound, has anyone noticed latency/stuttering on apps like vgb, ines, etc? Jun 29 03:05:49 ah Jun 29 03:06:13 Luke-Jr, think of it vaguely like the TWL4030 Jun 29 03:06:20 I woudlnt be surprised if they arent using it at all on their entire smartphone range where cpu is plenty Jun 29 03:06:32 But for OMAP2 and Nokia's own proprietary stuff instead of TI's Jun 29 03:06:33 GeneralAntilles: I know nothing of the TWL4030 Jun 29 03:06:41 Luke-Jr, nevermind then. Jun 29 03:06:41 i think it can do gsm and amr audio codec though Jun 29 03:06:49 ooo Jun 29 03:07:22 someone should do Free GSM and AMR codecs Jun 29 03:07:55 it's in progress Jun 29 03:08:00 really? Jun 29 03:08:24 Actually i think there might be some in android Jun 29 03:08:36 doubt it, tbh Jun 29 03:08:50 they're probably using the non-Free codecs like everyone else Jun 29 03:08:53 ignoring the legal problems Jun 29 03:09:45 ah well, there's atleast an unfinished LGPL version in ffmpeg's gaoc repo somewhere :) Jun 29 03:10:21 I think the guy tasked to complete it got distracted writing a free aac decoder though Jun 29 03:10:23 is there any point in keeping nokia maps? :P Jun 29 03:10:39 which is now in ffmpeg and works quite nicely Jun 29 03:11:43 gsoc repo* Jun 29 03:13:11 hello world! Jun 29 03:13:23 I just installed irssi on my router :P Jun 29 03:13:30 openwrt > dd-wrt Jun 29 03:13:34 :) Jun 29 03:13:35 man_in_shack, there's no Nokia Maps on Maemo. Jun 29 03:13:40 ~seen b-man16 Jun 29 03:13:42 b-man16 was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 23h 21m 18s ago, saying: 'i think that it requires enabling some functions in the kernel'. Jun 29 03:13:50 where the hell is he :P Jun 29 03:14:00 ok g2g, ill get my xps back up Jun 29 03:14:41 n810 comes with wayfinder Jun 29 03:14:45 "maps" Jun 29 03:15:16 which is different from "Nokia Maps", only available on S60 Jun 29 03:15:23 GeneralAntilles, well whatever it is. the map program that came preinstalled with the n810 Jun 29 03:15:32 ShadowJK, "Map" Jun 29 03:15:38 Wayfinder Map Jun 29 03:15:49 ok Jun 29 03:16:09 i have maemo mapper too :D Jun 29 03:40:41 ok, this is nuts Jun 29 03:40:52 i have about 6 abiword links in Extras menu now Jun 29 03:43:40 thankfully they're all gone now Jun 29 03:52:42 ShadowJK: "Maps" doesn't work in Diablo Jun 29 03:52:46 Does anyone know what the maemo equivelant to the xscreensaver extension headers is? Jun 29 03:52:54 map Jun 29 03:53:42 i'd probably look in osso if someone held a gun ti my head and demanded an answer Jun 29 04:03:41 * man_in_shack holds a water pistol to ShadowJK's head and politely requests an answer Jun 29 04:09:44 go look yourslf :-) Jun 29 04:13:16 * xnt14 goes to sleep Jun 29 04:17:58 anyone tried "simple launcher" hildon applet? it's not getting added when i select it in the applet list on diablo/n810 Jun 29 04:28:59 wow, what the hell did i just put on my home screen? Jun 29 04:29:29 some sort of astrological clock/calendar thingy Jun 29 04:31:16 remind me, are there a browser accessible within canola? Jun 29 04:47:20 t_s_o, probably not. i just installed it accidentally and removed it :P Jun 29 04:48:40 i dont think anyone uses simple launcher any more, instead favoring personal launcher, or personal menu... Jun 29 04:52:35 personal launcher? Jun 29 04:53:41 Hello all, I am wanting to develop a plug-in in maemomm, which is a home screem applet. I think, It can be done by the use of "libhildondesktop". Jun 29 04:53:53 But there is no help regarding this library! Jun 29 04:54:13 Where i can get the help .. or tutorial ragarding this! Jun 29 04:54:25 Any body can say...or do any help! Jun 29 04:54:29 please! Jun 29 04:55:39 patience is a virtue Jun 29 04:58:12 t_s_o, thanks, i'll check out personal launcher ... i see there's also a personal clock :D Jun 29 04:58:58 heh, personal clock has no downloads or webpage Jun 29 04:59:00 awesome Jun 29 04:59:12 just the project page on garage Jun 29 05:37:52 Hello all, I am wanting to develop a plug-in in maemomm, which is a home screem applet. I think, It can be done by the use of "libhildondesktop". But there is no help regarding this library! Where i can get the help .. or tutorial ragarding this! Any body can say...or do any help! please! Jun 29 05:38:10 X-Fade or Jaffa? Jun 29 05:38:28 you helped me earlier! Jun 29 05:41:46 sarower: http://maemo.org/api_refs/4.1/libhildondesktop-2.0.18/ Jun 29 05:42:34 sarower: http://maemo.org/development/documentation/manuals/4-0-x/writing_hildon_desktop_plug-ins_for_maemo/ Jun 29 05:44:31 1 minThanks ... but if i get some example with the configuration file (like autogen.sg, configure.ac, makefile.am etc.) it would be better for me Jun 29 05:48:15 morning Jun 29 06:11:12 * Stskeeps is kind of worried about his tablet addiction, - constantly thinking to take it along for music festival :P Jun 29 06:13:20 * Stskeeps glances at the 770 Jun 29 06:54:53 Stskeeps: I made good progress until I ran into cancel_work_sync, which would require reimplementing 20+ functions :/ Jun 29 06:58:27 Maiku: we're still on compat-2.6-wireless? Jun 29 06:58:49 compat-wireless-2.6-old, yes Jun 29 06:58:58 mmkay Jun 29 06:59:13 I'm not having much luck with updating kernels, it's acting inconsistently :/ Jun 29 06:59:23 how come wanting to use stlc45xx btw? Jun 29 06:59:44 monitor mode mostly Jun 29 07:00:16 ah Jun 29 07:00:39 the default driver likes to get confused Jun 29 07:01:06 I've had better luck with cx3110x monitor mode than stlc45xx actually Jun 29 07:01:16 really? Jun 29 07:01:31 Maiku: meet luke-jr, local troll but he also does interesting work on 2.6.30 for n8x0s Jun 29 07:01:39 f u Stskeeps -.- Jun 29 07:01:41 maybe I won't miss yo Jun 29 07:02:07 Luke-Jr: on kernel 2.6.21 as well? Jun 29 07:02:18 Maiku: cx3110x is 2.6.21 Jun 29 07:02:56 hmm essids and bssids get corrupted for me a lot Jun 29 07:03:23 oh Jun 29 07:03:23 when I sort of got it working with 2.6.28 or so the bssids were fine Jun 29 07:03:37 I mgiht need to change kismet config for stlc45xx? Jun 29 07:03:53 not sure, I've been using airodump Jun 29 07:03:58 -ng Jun 29 07:04:34 I haven't tried kismet yet Jun 29 07:04:35 i c Jun 29 07:04:46 kismet ♡ Jun 29 07:04:49 it makes me pretty maps Jun 29 07:04:53 http://dashjr.org/maps/wifi/ Jun 29 07:04:55 :D Jun 29 07:05:26 maybe the trick is just to reload the driver when it gets confused? Jun 29 07:06:00 oh, yeah Jun 29 07:06:08 /etc/init.d/tablet-wireless restart Jun 29 07:06:09 :þ Jun 29 07:06:12 on Gentoo anyhow Jun 29 07:07:18 Luke-Jr: a-ha, coordinates to help me target you with laser shooting satellites! ;) Jun 29 07:07:55 Stskeeps: -.- Jun 29 07:08:12 jesus, kansas has a lot of APs Jun 29 07:08:43 +city Jun 29 07:09:25 lol Jun 29 07:09:27 yeah Jun 29 07:09:58 hmm, well it's not /etc/init.d/tablet-wireless in maemo :P Jun 29 07:10:09 maybe wlancond? Jun 29 07:10:21 I use Gentoo Jun 29 07:10:34 I figured Jun 29 07:15:02 morning all Jun 29 07:38:18 kismet does seem to be working better.. Jun 29 07:41:37 Maiku, you have gentoo on your tablet? Jun 29 07:41:44 nope Jun 29 07:42:17 why does kismet seem to be working better then? Jun 29 07:42:40 it's seeming to be working better than airodump-ng, it isn't making up new variations of essids and bssids Jun 29 07:43:02 short of one, but that's within statistical error :P Jun 29 07:45:11 Morning, all Jun 29 07:54:37 morn jaffa Jun 29 09:04:38 is there some tricks to get more space on a n810? run out of space on /dev/mtdblock4. though a vfat /dev/mmcblk0p1 has loads of space. Jun 29 09:10:38 there are some pdfs, images, and a video floating around that one can move/delete... Jun 29 09:11:13 beyond that there is the option of booting from SD rather then internal Jun 29 09:13:53 t_s_o: then I would have to setup the SD card eh? /dev/mmcblk0p1 seems to be embedded in the device as i can't figure out where it comes out Jun 29 09:14:44 thats a 2GB SD card in the shape of a chip located on the connector where the N800 had a second SD slot... Jun 29 09:22:52 "All that innocent experimentation with fuel cells that run on blood has led to this, a flesh-eating clock. " Jun 29 09:23:57 has anyone compiled qt 4.5.2 for the device? Jun 29 09:24:09 RST38h: hm, sounds rather useful Jun 29 09:24:55 aquatix: http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2009/06/flypaperup-robot.jpg Jun 29 09:25:23 oh wow Jun 29 10:29:44 i am developing a plug in for N810. I don't have any main() function in the .c file. I have made a .so and a corresponding .desktop file. I have put .so inside "/usr/lib" and desktop file inside "/usr/share/application/hildon-home". But when i am selecting the application from"Home->Select Applet" it is not launching the application. What may be the problem..?Any body can help? Jun 29 10:33:43 any comments? Jun 29 10:33:46 any body? Jun 29 10:33:54 please....... Jun 29 10:35:54 RST38h? Jun 29 10:36:38 jaffa or X-Fade? Jun 29 10:37:52 i have FREMANTLE_ARMEL going and i want to build some stuff from ~/trunk on the host. How do i get to the host's home dir? Jun 29 10:40:51 sarower: I've never done a plugin, I'm afraid Jun 29 10:41:18 oh... no man...don't be afraid! Jun 29 10:41:34 any other person here! Jun 29 10:41:36 ? Jun 29 10:41:56 dos hildon desktop produce any output telling you what the problem is? Jun 29 10:42:03 s/dos/does Jun 29 10:42:09 Jaffa: my mind boggles over noone making simple eclipse project templates for this stuff.. Jun 29 10:43:16 RST38h? Jun 29 10:43:23 my problem....! Jun 29 10:43:33 i am developing a plug in for N810. I don't have any main() function in the .c file. I have made a .so and a corresponding .desktop file. I have put .so inside "/usr/lib" and desktop file inside "/usr/share/application/hildon-home". But when i am selecting the application from"Home->Select Applet" it is not launching the application. What may be the problem..?Any body can help? Jun 29 10:43:45 sarower: you do not need to repeat the question over and over, this isn't a newsticker Jun 29 10:43:55 sarower: patience!!!! have you looked into or followed the instructions in the manual? Jun 29 10:44:01 no need to repeat yourself unless it's specifically alehorst you want to talk to Jun 29 10:44:18 yes... it is ok Jun 29 10:44:30 look at my reply, is there output? Jun 29 10:45:29 but as RST38h was in offline... thats why i have repeated... i am sorry for that! Jun 29 10:51:11 RST38h: can you please help me? Jun 29 10:51:59 i can give you the source if you want! Jun 29 10:52:38 Hint: Repeatedly asking a person the same question multiple times generally makes them less likely for them to want to help you Jun 29 10:53:38 well...... Jun 29 10:53:56 i will not repeat again... Jun 29 10:54:19 qwerty12_N810: you are telling to me? Jun 29 10:54:30 sarower: how much are you willing to pay? Jun 29 10:55:13 don't inderstand! please clarify! Jun 29 10:55:23 understand* Jun 29 10:55:52 sarower: how much money are you willing to pay for helping you with development? Jun 29 10:56:32 ha ha ha..oh my god.... you are kidding with me..! Jun 29 10:56:41 jocking...! Jun 29 10:56:43 Am I? Jun 29 10:56:47 yes...? Jun 29 10:57:02 I mean, you absolutely INSIST that I help you, look at your code, make it run, etc Jun 29 10:57:23 no just some hints... Jun 29 10:57:23 I am currently at my work place, debugging stuff, being paid for that Jun 29 10:57:45 If you want me to debug your stuff instead, I can, but only when paid. Jun 29 10:57:56 Am I being sufficiently clear? Jun 29 10:58:02 and if you need to see the code.. then i can give it.. for example Jun 29 10:58:04 ! Jun 29 10:58:15 don't kidding.. i am poor man..! Jun 29 10:58:25 Then learn to debug your code on your own. Jun 29 10:58:27 RST38h: Are you sure that your emplyer likes the sidejobs ;) Jun 29 10:58:45 Razumihin: As long as they are done during off hours, there is no problem Jun 29 10:58:51 :) Jun 29 10:59:29 and my coding flow dropped to irc :( Jun 29 11:00:27 RST38h: i know.. the facts.. but if any body can help, then it would be better and quicker.. for me .. right? Jun 29 11:01:04 sarower: You are shooting questions since what? 10:00am local time? Jun 29 11:01:22 That has been 5 hours ago, sarower =) Jun 29 11:01:50 RST38h: yah but... i was stopped for 3/4 hours... Jun 29 11:02:21 i am not continuing to shoot question always! Jun 29 11:02:50 seems..you are rude... in this era Jun 29 11:03:00 * RST38h is rude and mean Jun 29 11:03:08 Welcome to the real world :) Jun 29 11:04:51 RST38h: right....you are! Jun 29 11:05:14 but no quarrell.. as i think i have no fault..! Jun 29 11:05:27 i am honest and fair... Jun 29 11:06:23 And noisy. Jun 29 11:09:01 every window toolbar height seems to be hardcoded in openttd ... Jun 29 11:09:06 so either I write a hell of a patch Jun 29 11:09:12 or leave them as they are Jun 29 11:09:17 javispedro: A #define? =) Jun 29 11:09:21 no Jun 29 11:09:25 number 13 everywhere Jun 29 11:09:35 * RST38h votes for the patch really Jun 29 11:09:46 btw Jun 29 11:09:50 you'll like kinetic scrolling :D Jun 29 11:10:00 at least it works fine in scratchbox, still not tried on device Jun 29 11:11:14 hmm I need to read the C spec Jun 29 11:11:19 would #define 13 20 work ? lol Jun 29 11:12:15 javis: no waaay?????!? Jun 29 11:12:54 name should start with a letter Jun 29 11:13:06 identifiers Jun 29 11:13:13 but preprocessor tokens? never read about that Jun 29 11:13:39 same rule afaik, but try =) Jun 29 11:13:50 either way it won't work, there's some vehicle using 13 for something else Jun 29 11:13:53 :( Jun 29 11:14:04 a coworker just tried it and got an error message from the preprocessor Jun 29 11:14:37 indeed "macro names must be identifiers" Jun 29 11:18:45 ok, this Titan theme is nice Jun 29 11:19:59 #openttd referred me to the "hell of a patch" option Jun 29 11:20:02 so that'll be for now Jun 29 11:20:17 THEY ARE RIGHT Jun 29 11:20:24 (sorry, caps was a mistake) Jun 29 11:20:30 261 KiB gzipped patch file :( Jun 29 11:21:01 CAPS ARE never A MISTAKE Jun 29 11:24:32 RST, dint yuo raed what you writ befoer you sned it+ Jun 29 11:26:17 inz ntrly Jun 29 11:26:32 heh Jun 29 11:28:15 Whee, one can't beat the exhilarating feeling one gets when ones fucking hildon-application-manager refuses to start Jun 29 11:28:35 handwriting on this thing is slow Jun 29 11:28:54 sonic advance <3 Jun 29 11:29:23 qwerty12_N810: finally something to fix again? Jun 29 11:29:47 to everybody who needs something to fix, there is Modest. Jun 29 11:30:03 especially considering that its maintainers ain't gonna fix it most likely Jun 29 11:30:05 amr, do you have any sound issues with it (or other emulators)? Jun 29 11:30:14 aquatix: meh, it shoves configuration files all over the place :\ Jun 29 11:30:29 indeed. what's with "non-deleting the messages I tell modest to delete" issue? Jun 29 11:30:38 i do with urm Jun 29 11:30:40 vgb Jun 29 11:30:48 it misses some notes Jun 29 11:30:53 and the same with ines Jun 29 11:30:57 sound is pretty spot on in vgba though Jun 29 11:31:15 hm ok Jun 29 11:31:24 well, it is with this rom Jun 29 11:31:34 i haven't tried any other games for gba Jun 29 11:31:34 qwerty12_N810: fun Jun 29 11:31:36 i'm going to have to find something to play on vgba then :P Jun 29 11:31:54 sonic advance! :D Jun 29 11:32:01 im trying to get konami krazy racers on there Jun 29 11:32:03 I aint reflashing for shit though Jun 29 11:32:04 i remember loving that Jun 29 11:32:21 actually Jun 29 11:32:29 i wonder what the keys are for the shoulder buttons Jun 29 11:33:12 i've got a few games where the characters only appeared again in SSB:Brawl Jun 29 11:33:26 kid iccarus, ice climbers ... Jun 29 11:33:50 wish i could get earthbound but i don't see a snes emulator for maemo Jun 29 11:34:09 there is NES version of Earthbound afaik Jun 29 11:35:46 does anyone know where I've gone wrong here? http://pastebin.com/m2997d400 Jun 29 11:36:45 RST38h, ah yes, i was looking for the wrong name Jun 29 11:36:57 "mother" was original Jun 29 11:39:18 man_in_pda, do you know what the shoulder buttons are bound to in vgba for the n810? Jun 29 11:39:54 amr, my guess is -/+ on the top Jun 29 11:40:15 hmms, sonic doesnt use it so i cant check, tut! Jun 29 11:40:18 ill give that a go Jun 29 11:40:18 thanks Jun 29 11:40:21 not sure about anything on the keyboard though Jun 29 11:43:48 hendry: looks like you do not have the correct gcc version Jun 29 11:43:53 jeremiah, ping Jun 29 11:44:04 jeremiah, message from Quim: Jun 29 11:44:06 "google-album-art-downloader at extras-devel is showing up in the Jun 29 11:44:06 Application Manager. Being a library it shouldn't be visible to end Jun 29 11:44:06 users. Please fix this when you have the chance. Thanks!" Jun 29 11:44:15 jeremiah, let me know what category I should pick instead Jun 29 11:44:17 hendry: AFAIK, Maemo supports two GCCs, 2005 an 2007. I would checkwhich one you have got and configure SDK properly Jun 29 11:44:28 ouch Jun 29 11:44:34 konami krazy racing music is BAD Jun 29 11:44:36 RST38h: fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage fixed it btw Jun 29 11:44:38 very stuttery Jun 29 11:44:56 * RST38h shouldn't have enabled audio in VGBA Jun 29 11:46:03 i think it might be o and p Jun 29 11:46:05 as shoulder buttons Jun 29 11:46:16 shift is urm, a Jun 29 11:46:18 ctrl is b Jun 29 11:46:24 return is start,o and p are soulder Jun 29 11:46:27 shoulder* Jun 29 11:57:53 does fremantle not have debconf? Jun 29 11:58:43 <_berto_> pvanhoof: what's the current category ? Jun 29 12:04:07 _berto_, "Multimedia" it is currently Jun 29 12:04:07 wtf Jun 29 12:04:45 god Jun 29 12:05:03 is the "extras uploads automatically go to maemo.org frontpage" thing enabled?? Jun 29 12:06:06 amr: QWERTYUIOP are should buttons Jun 29 12:06:15 amr: ZXCVBNM are FIRE-B Jun 29 12:06:25 amr: ASDFGHJKL SPACE are FIRE-A Jun 29 12:06:27 javispedro: No, but it automatically updates if you promote a newer version Jun 29 12:07:07 well it did Jun 29 12:07:15 <_berto_> andre__: I mean, in the debian package Jun 29 12:07:25 <_berto_> the Section: field Jun 29 12:08:04 dish Jun 29 12:08:11 <_berto_> at least in diablo, only sections that begin with "user/" appear in the app manager Jun 29 12:08:29 now I'm noticing the person who uploaded the last openttd package to extras was not the same who created the openttd entry Jun 29 12:08:42 hi ;) Jun 29 12:09:01 so I forgot to email the person who created the openttd download entry Jun 29 12:13:43 oh Jun 29 12:13:43 nice Jun 29 12:13:47 thanks RST38h Jun 29 12:14:06 TAB is SELECT, ENTER is START Jun 29 12:14:21 pardon, tab? Jun 29 12:14:34 i didnt even realise we had a tab Jun 29 12:16:41 i have the FREMANTLE sdk setup. can i run fennec somehow? Jun 29 12:16:51 how do i start X etc. Jun 29 12:17:01 * xnt14[server] wonders how the hell you guys stayed up so long Jun 29 12:17:13 fremantle? Jun 29 12:17:39 I think fennec is diablo only for now Jun 29 12:17:51 * xnt14[server] boots up his main computer Jun 29 12:18:10 try transplanting the deb Jun 29 12:18:17 amr: then SELECT is on some other button =) Jun 29 12:18:25 * RST38h does not remember which one though Jun 29 12:18:48 [sbox-FREMANTLE_ARMEL: ~] > af-sb-init.sh start Jun 29 12:18:48 bash: af-sb-init.sh: command not found Jun 29 12:18:55 xnt14[server]: or webkit, i don't care Jun 29 12:20:38 ok, i think i did the minimal install. that's why. Jun 29 12:20:44 :P Jun 29 12:20:45 k Jun 29 12:21:02 btw if you still want the urls Jun 29 12:21:08 ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mobile/dists/chinook/release/binary-armel/fennec_1.0b2_armel.deb Jun 29 12:21:23 can I get my n810 running Fremantle? Jun 29 12:21:36 not at the moment Jun 29 12:21:53 well not at all until mer gets stable Jun 29 12:22:19 mer = fremantle port to the n8x0 series Jun 29 12:22:30 well mer is stable, just missing some things Jun 29 12:22:48 brb Jun 29 12:23:47 hmm, what is fennec? Jun 29 12:25:14 man_in_pda, fennec = firefox mobile (currently availible for the nits and winmo phones) Jun 29 12:28:25 ok, expect a kinetic scrolling-capable openttd build in extras-devel soon Jun 29 12:28:42 I promoted the other one as I'll consider that stable Jun 29 12:29:22 (of course the kinetic scrolling itself will suck, i still need to read a bit more about it) Jun 29 12:31:35 =) Jun 29 12:33:43 xnt14: b2 for nits and a2 for winmo :) Jun 29 12:33:57 yeah that too :) Jun 29 12:34:21 speaking of which, i wonder what i get on osx :) Jun 29 12:34:33 :) Jun 29 12:37:35 http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/mobile/1.0b2/ Jun 29 12:37:42 for people running more traditional systems :) Jun 29 12:43:12 ok, so now i have this thing looking and feeling the way i want, complete with awesome web browser Jun 29 12:43:28 all that's missing is my wifi support Jun 29 12:48:11 _berto_, Section: user/multimedia Jun 29 12:48:50 _berto_, http://gitorious.org/google-album-art-downloader/google-album-art-downloader/blobs/master/debian/control Jun 29 13:09:44 Can somebody give me advise on how to put a post-install script into a debian package? Jun 29 13:10:02 I have it in ordinary bash script.sh atm, I want to execute this post-install Jun 29 13:11:25 Save the script as debian/postinst Jun 29 13:32:39 what is the browser executable in Fremantle? Jun 29 13:36:24 qwerty12_N810, thanks Jun 29 13:36:38 qwerty12_N810, that's all I need to do? I don't need to mention it in rules or something? Jun 29 13:37:35 pvanhoof: nope, dh_installdeb handles it for you Jun 29 13:37:57 qwerty12_N810, you know whether dbus-send is available on the PR image (typically)? Jun 29 13:38:36 pvanhoof: no, sorry, don't know the first thing about Fremantle :) Jun 29 13:38:48 ok, thanks for the info about postinst Jun 29 13:43:27 pvanhoof: dbus-send's been available in every Maemo version so far on the device (IIRC) Jun 29 13:44:16 Jaffa, thanks Jun 29 13:44:46 Jaffa, the script I just added (to the google-images album art downloader) requests albumart postinst the albumart downloader Jun 29 13:45:00 Which means that for all albums that didn't yet have albumart, a request is made Jun 29 13:45:36 http://gitorious.org/google-album-art-downloader/google-album-art-downloader/commit/0c50befd9963e6eae07b846f5fa5c067ce188a09 Jun 29 13:46:56 _berto_, I still wonder about the user/multimedia category and the comment from Quim, any advise on what Section: line I should use instead? Jun 29 13:50:53 btw why not user/media ? Jun 29 13:54:53 hmm.. is there a maemo port of allegro? Jun 29 13:58:04 RST38h: Because that is not an official section. Jun 29 14:00:14 X-Fade: Too bad Jun 29 14:00:35 X-Fade: "multimedia" is too long, longer than most other categories Jun 29 14:01:21 RST38h: It is only a 'functional english' name. Not the pretty one you see in the AM. Jun 29 14:02:18 RST38h: And we also have development, navigation and education being about the same length. Jun 29 14:05:26 ah Jun 29 14:05:30 true Jun 29 14:07:06 ~package-categories Jun 29 14:07:11 Finally, somebody thought about it: http://gizmodo.com/5303579/80s-superhero-alert-motorcycle-features-full+sized-sidecar Jun 29 14:08:53