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Jul 02 03:27:53 <caotic> does anyone knows why when using vncviewer from the n810 all the text input from the keyboard hets duplicate,  I type "hi", I get "hhii"
Jul 02 03:30:31 <auntieNeo> sometimes vnc does that :s
Jul 02 03:34:24 <caotic>  but always ? :(
Jul 02 04:13:55 <Luke-Jr> caotic: keyboard repeat
Jul 02 04:14:05 <Luke-Jr> it thinks you're holding down the key due to network delays
Jul 02 04:14:17 <Luke-Jr> caotic: x11vnc server disables repeat when someone is connected..
Jul 02 04:26:03 <caotic> Luke-Jr: it does that by default ? since my server is x11vnc
Jul 02 04:26:16 <Luke-Jr> mine does
Jul 02 04:38:42 <sarower> hello.... who is daniel?
Jul 02 04:39:08 <sarower> said me to ping you in IRC via forum!
Jul 02 04:40:18 <Luke-Jr> O.o
Jul 02 04:51:50 <sarower> Dasajev: Hello Daniel
Jul 02 04:52:14 <sarower> you have replied my forum question....and said me to ping you here...!
Jul 02 04:52:25 <Dasajev> no, it wasn't me :)
Jul 02 04:53:02 <sarower> Oh i am sorry
Jul 02 04:54:55 <ukki> sarower: i don't think he's here right now
Jul 02 04:55:25 <sarower> it's ok... thank you very much
Jul 02 04:56:28 <sarower> any way.. i need to build debian package of home area plug-in for internet tablet. Any help?
Jul 02 05:14:27 <RST38h> sarower: cd Conky; sh ./package
Jul 02 05:19:32 <sarower> RST38h: but you code does not build....cause i am in maemo sdk 5
Jul 02 05:19:45 <RST38h> use sdk 4
Jul 02 05:20:04 <Luke-Jr> sarower: pfft SDK, I have Gentoo compiling stuff native on my N915 now
Jul 02 05:20:09 <RST38h> sdk 5 is in beta and has no documented plugin api afaik
Jul 02 05:21:04 <sarower> RST38h: right.....
Jul 02 05:21:51 <sarower> Luke-Jr: I could not get you
Jul 02 05:22:06 <sarower> N915 is the next internet tablet...?
Jul 02 05:22:13 <sarower> latest?
Jul 02 05:23:46 <Luke-Jr> sarower: yeah, developer model
Jul 02 05:25:14 <sarower> Luke-Jr: oh... can I make build of applet for it....?
Jul 02 05:25:47 <sarower> Luke-Jr: Is there any guide...?
Jul 02 05:27:26 <Luke-Jr> …
Jul 02 05:32:41 <susan__> When i started maemo sdk image and used command sudo,the shell will prompt "sudo: must be setuid root".
Jul 02 05:33:38 <susan__> Some people come across the same situation?
Jul 02 06:06:12 <susan__> When i started maemo sdk image and used command sudo,the shell will prompt "sudo: must be setuid root".
Jul 02 06:06:29 <susan__> When i started maemo sdk image and used command sudo,the shell will prompt "sudo: must be setuid root".
Jul 02 06:07:06 <timeless_mbp> fakeroot ?
Jul 02 06:12:58 <susan__> fakeroot is not working.
Jul 02 06:15:38 <susan__> In maemo virtual sdk,how to get root permissions
Jul 02 06:41:48 <adeus> hmm, how do I send chars that require alt-gr to the Xephyr window?
Jul 02 06:41:55 <adeus> it doesn't seemt o recognize it
Jul 02 06:46:51 <RST38h> Hehe, Apple is trying to make Russian cell service providers to sell subsidized iPhones with a contract :)
Jul 02 06:48:18 <RST38h> Not finding much love for this proposal though
Jul 02 07:02:53 <Jaffa> Morning, all
Jul 02 07:03:07 <RST38h> moorning.
Jul 02 07:08:53 <aquatix> morning all
Jul 02 07:14:27 <RST38h> hey aquatix
Jul 02 08:53:22 <pupnik> ne1 here working with clutter yet? actual demo apps>
Jul 02 08:56:10 <timeless_mbp> internally we have one :)
Jul 02 08:56:43 <RST38h> pupnik: AFAIK you still can't use clutter in an application because hildon desktop uses it
Jul 02 08:57:59 <timeless_mbp> hrm
Jul 02 08:58:11 <timeless_mbp> i thought the resources of interest were GL and not Clutter
Jul 02 08:58:14 <RST38h> In any case, clutter appears to be an attempt to implement Flash graphics model with GObject-based API and OpenGL backend, so not sure how this stuff can be useful for anything
Jul 02 08:58:44 <timeless_mbp> RST38h: well... the one app i've seen looks shiny
Jul 02 08:59:39 <RST38h> If I need shiny, I will buy an iPhone.
Jul 02 08:59:40 <tl> when i started maemo sdk image using vmplayer,why i can't connect to internet?
Jul 02 09:00:06 <timeless_mbp> did you check /sbin/ifconfig ?
Jul 02 09:00:11 <tl> i can't ping a familar url.
Jul 02 09:00:17 <tl> no
Jul 02 09:00:29 <tl> i don't know how to configure it.
Jul 02 09:00:41 <tl> check what?
Jul 02 09:01:15 <pupnik> this is a googlable problem
Jul 02 09:01:35 <pupnik> is this the resolv.conf problem?
Jul 02 09:01:48 <tl> i don't know.
Jul 02 09:02:04 <pupnik> try a plain-jane linux or windows vmware image
Jul 02 09:02:12 <pupnik> to test if your vmplayer networking setup is functional
Jul 02 09:02:26 <pupnik> if that works, then the problem is narrowed down to the sdk
Jul 02 09:02:59 <tl> you mean i must try a windows image at fist
Jul 02 09:03:25 <tl> Now i have no windows image.
Jul 02 09:03:55 <tl> maybe i should search using google.
Jul 02 09:03:57 <qwerty12_N810> He said "linux or windows".
Jul 02 09:04:55 <pupnik> that was just one suggestion
Jul 02 09:05:06 <RST38h> heya qwerty
Jul 02 09:05:08 <tl> yeah
Jul 02 09:05:18 <qwerty12_N810> Hey RST38h
Jul 02 09:05:46 <qwerty12_N810> Also, by any chance, is the program using libconic or is this your generic app?
Jul 02 09:10:45 <tl> i can't search using google,because i am not using static address.
Jul 02 09:14:19 * xnt14[sleeping] wakes up because of the servere thunderstorm outside
Jul 02 10:01:31 <MerkurAlex> does anyone know if "ubuntu_9.04_n8x0-2.2_rootfs.tgz" got hosted somewhere else since maemobox went down?
Jul 02 10:08:23 <timeless_mbp> andre__: ping
Jul 02 10:08:46 <andre__> timeless_mbp, pong
Jul 02 10:08:52 <timeless_mbp> i mean installable
Jul 02 10:08:59 <timeless_mbp> did you try both?
Jul 02 10:09:15 <timeless_mbp> oh fun
Jul 02 10:09:26 <andre__> yeah, i tried both.
Jul 02 10:09:28 <andre__> didn't find it
Jul 02 10:10:57 <MerkurAlex> did anyone see this yet? http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/05/25/nokia-n900-rover-tablet-gets-pictured-specd/
Jul 02 10:11:22 <timeless_mbp> andre__: hrm
Jul 02 10:11:30 <timeless_mbp> go to application manager's log
Jul 02 10:11:37 <timeless_mbp> does it show that it's reading my package list?
Jul 02 10:12:03 <till-> MerkurAlex yea, quite old :)
Jul 02 10:12:17 <MerkurAlex> haha i have been so out of the maemo group lately
Jul 02 10:13:07 <MerkurAlex> I am a bit disappointed... i like the phone addition but its so... not IT-ish
Jul 02 10:13:11 <xnt14> MerkurAlex, yeah, b-man has it but he is not here atm :/
Jul 02 10:13:20 <till-> i want a xenon flash AND a video-led
Jul 02 10:13:35 <xnt14> Im not sure if he uploaded it to his domain
Jul 02 10:13:36 <MerkurAlex> xnt14, ahh okay thanks
Jul 02 10:13:40 <xnt14> ill check
Jul 02 10:13:41 <andre__> timeless_mbp, no, does not show
Jul 02 10:13:51 * timeless_mbp grumbles
Jul 02 10:13:58 <xnt14> I'm giving him hosting so I can give you a link :)
Jul 02 10:14:57 <xnt14> nope he doesn't have it up
Jul 02 10:15:04 <MerkurAlex> xnt14, cool! i was gonna offer if he didn't get new hosting :)
Jul 02 10:15:20 <xnt14> :)
Jul 02 10:15:36 <MerkurAlex> i am interested in seeing how ubuntu runs
Jul 02 10:16:41 <MerkurAlex> plus i am gonna see if i can get blitzmax running or not...
Jul 02 10:19:45 <xnt14> :P
Jul 02 10:23:08 <adeus> has anyone used gtk apis from a qt program?
Jul 02 10:27:10 <timeless_mbp> you don't really want to do that
Jul 02 10:27:15 <timeless_mbp> mixing event loops is painful
Jul 02 10:27:21 <timeless_mbp> so is sharing contexts
Jul 02 10:27:33 <timeless_mbp> it's bad enough trying to get theme engines to cooperate
Jul 02 10:27:38 <timeless_mbp> (they typically insist on crashing)
Jul 02 10:27:55 <lbt> adeus: gtk or glib?
Jul 02 10:32:34 <adeus> lbt, well right now I'm just trying to include gtk.h
Jul 02 10:33:25 <RST38h> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/10/03/bulgarian_airbags/
Jul 02 10:33:25 <lbt> why?
Jul 02 10:33:25 <RST38h> hmmm
Jul 02 10:33:26 <lbt> 2006?
Jul 02 10:33:26 <adeus> there's a api that I need to use
Jul 02 10:33:27 <adeus> and it includes gtk.h
Jul 02 10:33:28 <lbt> no? really?
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