**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jul 26 02:59:56 2009 Jul 26 06:50:09 hi, any one use http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/load-applet/ to manage a swap partition on external SD? Jul 26 06:53:48 I do. Jul 26 06:54:00 I mean, I use it, I don't think I use it to manage swap Jul 26 06:54:35 ha ha, ok. I have the applet install and a swap partion. i can use "swapon -a" and than "free" to verify Jul 26 06:55:08 but im not understanding how to use the applet to use swap on boot and to let me disable to eject the sd card Jul 26 06:55:28 there's an option for that in Control Panel IIRC Jul 26 06:55:43 wait, I'll grab my N800 Jul 26 06:56:31 yup Jul 26 06:56:44 Control Panel - Memory - Virtual (tab) Jul 26 06:56:46 IIRC? Jul 26 06:56:53 If I recall clearly Jul 26 06:57:57 "Control Panel - Memory - Virtual" is for a swapfile on the root MTD. im useing a swap partion on a differnt MTD.... Jul 26 06:59:15 hmmm, it saves my pagefile on "Internal Memory Card", I wonder if you could edit rc.local to have it swapon from different location Jul 26 07:00:15 I'm not the best person to answer your question, I'm rather noobish when it comes to Maemo ;( Jul 26 07:02:50 i got ya. i was tring to avoid the swapfile all together and stick with the partiions Jul 26 07:03:14 will chekc out the rc.local though and see if i get any ideas Jul 26 07:03:15 thanks Jul 26 07:04:13 tom-davidson, just do `swapon /dev/whatever_partition`? Jul 26 07:04:44 slonopotamus: he want to have it automagically, if I understand him correctly Jul 26 07:05:36 right. from the cli i can do that. tright to have to auto at boot and an applet so i can eject my sd card with out the system crashing. load-applet says it can manage thw swap, but i not seeing how Jul 26 07:07:06 create init script then Jul 26 07:07:27 hmm, no, wait Jul 26 07:08:10 just put it into /etc/fstab? :) Jul 26 07:08:25 that would work, I think Jul 26 07:08:47 that's the proper way, btw :) Jul 26 07:09:11 then you would need script with swapoff and you're good to go Jul 26 07:09:35 only problem is when you have too much memory swapped and you /sbin/swapoff it ;) Jul 26 07:12:40 fstab should boot auto... i need to find out what my entry is not. Jul 26 07:12:41 /dev/mmcblk1p2 swap swap defaults 0 0 Jul 26 07:13:33 this applet claims to handle the swap, but i dont see the options... http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/load-applet/ Jul 26 07:19:46 anyone want to install it and report your experiance? Jul 26 07:20:49 as I said I have it and no, I do not see anything swap related Jul 26 07:21:25 thanks opi... i forgot that allready. i think its time to email the creator. Jul 26 07:26:32 for those intrested, i posted a thread at the garage project: https://garage.maemo.org/forum/forum.php?thread_id=4283&forum_id=34 Jul 26 08:01:44 thanks again slonopotamus: and opi: , good night Jul 26 08:02:06 see you Jul 26 08:45:05 Jul 26 08:45:16 . Jul 26 08:45:23 Jul 26 09:31:44 seriously impressive running robot! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv35ItWLBBk (rt from quim!) Jul 26 09:39:48 Morning, all Jul 26 10:06:01 mornin Jaffa \o Jul 26 10:07:14 qwerty12_N810: poke Jul 26 10:07:35 Stskeeps: ja? Jul 26 10:07:47 you will want to grab the slidees from 'not your grandpa's debhelper' Jul 26 10:08:05 watching the talk atm Jul 26 10:11:55 hmm Jul 26 10:12:14 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=306774#post306774 Jul 26 10:12:35 this isn't the maemo sdk ttheme is it? Jul 26 10:15:34 icons are blue Jul 26 10:15:48 I think they made it to determine device shots Jul 26 10:16:39 hehe, match by RGB value? Jul 26 10:16:59 Stskeeps: well, icons from SDK are greenish :) Jul 26 10:19:00 And this post is like "haha, you can't make proper software without actual device... oh, damn, it's obvious" to me :) Jul 26 10:20:09 i wonder if mer is close enough Jul 26 10:21:26 Stskeeps: BTW, powerlaunch (as always) has the powerup request message that you'd want to send to switch state Jul 26 10:21:42 qwerty12_N810: ah Jul 26 10:22:02 will add as talk Jul 26 10:22:07 err Jul 26 10:22:09 task Jul 26 10:22:50 Also: you sure that linuxrc's clause to start in runlevel 5 if dsme reports actdead state isn't fucking you over? Jul 26 10:23:38 not 100% Jul 26 10:23:48 good point Jul 26 10:29:45 thanks, qwerty12_N810 Jul 26 10:43:24 moo all Jul 26 10:43:44 RST38h: heya Jul 26 10:44:16 any news? any images of maemo5 device dressed like a pumpkin? Jul 26 10:44:22 hey wazd Jul 26 10:44:38 RST38h: sorta) Jul 26 10:45:03 not as a pumpkin, but we DO know nokia buildings do not have flat walls Jul 26 10:45:15 lcuk: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=306781 Jul 26 10:45:17 lol Jul 26 10:45:22 they seem to have some sort of fail gravity Jul 26 10:45:22 i mean Jul 26 10:45:24 RST38h: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=306781 Jul 26 10:45:40 * RST38h on a train watching the ticket lady come Jul 26 10:45:55 wazd, why are you showing me my own postings? :p Jul 26 10:45:59 RST38h: run, forest, run! :D Jul 26 10:46:09 lcuk: yep, missfire :) Jul 26 10:46:11 wazd: no way I can open that from a phone :( Jul 26 10:46:25 wazd, gee thanks mate, now I had to see half of lcuk's ugly face Jul 26 10:46:30 and its only morning Jul 26 10:46:33 ;-p Jul 26 10:46:36 only half! Jul 26 10:46:41 haha Jul 26 10:46:43 j/k Jul 26 10:46:44 thank your lucky stars Jul 26 10:46:54 i have to see the whole thing every mornin Jul 26 10:46:54 * LinuxCode nudges lcuk Jul 26 10:46:59 hahaha! Jul 26 10:47:10 LinuxCode: fixed in harmattan no doubt :) Jul 26 10:47:12 lcuk, would you like a mask for x-mas ? Jul 26 10:47:49 as long as its not http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/guy.jpg yeah Jul 26 10:48:04 hahaah Jul 26 10:48:09 thatsa good mask Jul 26 10:49:02 ok so my hd isnt failing Jul 26 10:49:12 my brother or his osx is failing Jul 26 10:49:32 so i can carry on using your machine then? Jul 26 10:49:38 * LinuxCode refrains from returning another hd to WD Jul 26 10:49:44 lcuk, which one ? Jul 26 10:49:48 lol Jul 26 10:49:53 i stopped when you were noticing problems Jul 26 10:50:00 my jornada 710 with familiar on it, sure Jul 26 10:50:03 CAVIAR? Jul 26 10:50:15 RST38h, 1TB GP Jul 26 10:50:22 ah Jul 26 10:50:27 not sure if they are caviars Jul 26 10:50:41 I had 9, so far 2 were returned Jul 26 10:50:52 caviars were really bad for a long time Jul 26 10:50:56 I just bought used 1TB HDD filled with 1080 movies Jul 26 10:51:05 wazd, lol nice Jul 26 10:51:12 3/10 failure rate in the first 3 months Jul 26 10:51:15 I can't delete them, they are too cool :( Jul 26 10:51:16 how kind of that person not to delete his movie collection Jul 26 10:51:32 wazd: THAT kind of movies? Jul 26 10:51:51 RST38h: nope, there were only two of them :D Jul 26 10:52:00 Linux: that was actually a marketing trick to make wazd buy another hd Jul 26 10:52:08 RST38h, haha Jul 26 10:52:16 heh Jul 26 10:52:17 RST38h: yep, I think so too :( Jul 26 10:52:44 tbf to WD though I was punishing the drives Jul 26 10:52:48 I have only 24 gb free Jul 26 10:52:59 rebuilding raid6 array multiple times for testing purposes Jul 26 10:53:09 on hardware card....took ages Jul 26 10:53:42 oh, I can delete Lost :) Jul 26 10:53:49 wazd, nothing a dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdx bs=1M wont fix for you Jul 26 10:53:52 lost. Jul 26 10:54:14 wazd: No dom2 there? Jul 26 10:54:51 RST38h: I thought British reality shows were weird... Jul 26 10:54:52 although you would have to wipe plates with rubbing alcohol after THAT Jul 26 10:55:11 RST38h: unfortunately not :( Jul 26 10:55:23 qwerty: Right, that is exactly how rest of us are liking them Jul 26 10:55:33 :) Jul 26 10:55:52 qwerty: although japanese are leading in terms of kinkiness Jul 26 10:55:54 full collection of James Bond movies Jul 26 10:56:05 cant delete it right? Jul 26 10:56:21 RST38h: I'm not sure I've seen em all :) Jul 26 10:56:40 still. Jul 26 10:56:41 oh my god, Zadornov's anthology Jul 26 10:56:55 kill Kill KILL Jul 26 10:57:20 * RST38h knew something like that would be there Jul 26 10:57:24 RST38h: colored "17 moments of spring" :) Jul 26 10:57:34 they are ok Jul 26 10:57:58 hint: disney flicks are the next likely target Jul 26 10:58:32 RST38h: haven't reached "cartoons" folder yet :) Jul 26 10:58:57 disney actually blessed us with some movies too Jul 26 10:59:12 RST38h: I have "Pirates" :) Jul 26 10:59:38 mmm...undecided Jul 26 11:00:01 wazd, which one lol Jul 26 11:00:02 * RST38h feels bad deleting anything with Cthulhu in one of the main roles Jul 26 11:00:12 lcuk: all of them :) Jul 26 11:00:51 wasnt the first one the most expensive porn movie ever made or something Jul 26 11:01:13 there was porn? hmmm Jul 26 11:01:31 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirates_(2005_film) Jul 26 11:02:35 lcuk: RST38h: Oh, i saw it btw xD Jul 26 11:03:18 house m.d., goodbye Jul 26 11:03:24 hmm? Jul 26 11:03:44 Stskeeps: it's cool but i've already saw it :) Jul 26 11:03:55 i was referring to the house stuff :P Jul 26 11:04:05 Stskeeps: :) Jul 26 11:04:17 whole Star Wars collection Jul 26 11:04:28 nooo Jul 26 11:04:31 even some fanfic movie Jul 26 11:04:45 Star Wars - Revelations Jul 26 11:05:34 Any Terry Gilliam stuff? (to watch I mean not to delete) Jul 26 11:10:32 I'm feeling a bit torn about the new maemo device, is the mobile(crunch?) roumor likely to be true? Jul 26 11:10:44 yes. Jul 26 11:10:56 I feel 180 grams is a bit much for a cell phone Jul 26 11:11:17 still no word on builtin or external mike though Jul 26 11:11:53 it looks like a phone, it's got a speaker right where it should be if it were a phone Jul 26 11:12:37 also it looks a bit on the chubby side, about the same thickness as the htc-touch pro Jul 26 11:13:06 nai1sirk: it's really powerful though :P also, there's no pictures out Jul 26 11:13:09 there are no real images of n9x0 right now Jul 26 11:13:33 whatever you are looking at may or may not be real Jul 26 11:14:03 the 180g figure is also dubious Jul 26 11:14:21 oh, I missed N9x0 rumors, can anyone share a link? Jul 26 11:14:34 talk.maemo.org Jul 26 11:14:35 what about this picture here (overlook the negativity in the link, the guy is an ass) http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/05/25/nokia-n900-rover-tablet-gets-pictured-specd/ Jul 26 11:14:41 search Jul 26 11:15:13 'gorbatshow' mobira cityman weight 800 grams Jul 26 11:15:25 nai: if we are talking about a lowres image it was taken from a 1-2 year old nokia presentation Jul 26 11:15:36 mer seems slow Jul 26 11:15:44 in a vm Jul 26 11:15:55 then dont us vm Jul 26 11:16:00 I mean a lot slower than a full blown ubuntu vm Jul 26 11:16:14 vms are crap Jul 26 11:16:21 http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/05/24/exclusive-everything-there-is-to-know-about-nokias-next-tablet/ this looks like the same device Jul 26 11:16:32 still from an old presentation? Jul 26 11:16:41 I wouldn't mind to replace my N800 Jul 26 11:16:51 also, it looks like an icon from the meamo 5 sdk Jul 26 11:17:01 now you are probably looking at a rendering done in 3d, right? Jul 26 11:17:03 there's nothing on the market that fits my needs like Meamo/Nx Jul 26 11:17:04 I wouldn't have any faith in any of the specifications or proposed pictures of it before it's officially announced Jul 26 11:17:11 nai1sirk: they didnt fix the keyboard even? Jul 26 11:17:24 RST38h: yupp Jul 26 11:17:58 nai: the sources of that one are also dubious, it is not a photo and not an official rendering Jul 26 11:18:07 kkrusty: three rows Jul 26 11:18:26 Myrtti: hey, guys can dream cant they? Jul 26 11:18:35 RST38h: sure, dream on. Jul 26 11:18:37 nai1sirk: thats making it different. not fixing it Jul 26 11:18:54 it's the speculations and haste arguments I dislike Jul 26 11:18:55 Myrtti: btw, Nokia just submitted a pink n97 to the fcc ;) Jul 26 11:18:57 in that mockup, it looks like the keyboard was added afterwards Jul 26 11:19:02 RST38h: ewww Jul 26 11:19:18 nai1sirk: fixing it would be not to have the keys right on top/bottom of each other Jul 26 11:19:18 Myrtti: yes, the screen too Jul 26 11:19:24 Myrtti, as a female you should be yayyyying shouldnt you lol Jul 26 11:19:28 * Myrtti shall have a white N86 Jul 26 11:19:41 I skipped over the n800, so I might skip the "n900" and wait for the next tablet if it is that thick. I like my devices slim. Jul 26 11:19:55 we can always use a hammer Jul 26 11:20:16 * RST38h will buy 5800 if maemo phone ends up being a flop Jul 26 11:20:26 N97 has too many teething problems so I'll have my N86 Jul 26 11:20:32 probably by the end of the year Jul 26 11:20:40 nai1sirk, if you have been waiting since the n800, maybe you would be interested in the n810 - it is slim AND has a keyboard! Jul 26 11:20:58 I would've been really tempted to get an android phone if they came with a keyboard and good battery life Jul 26 11:21:08 it has a keyboard doesnt it Jul 26 11:21:12 I thought it did Jul 26 11:21:15 not sure about battery suckage tho Jul 26 11:21:32 its got a really low res screen Jul 26 11:21:41 I just love the misinformation that fogs this channel sometimes :-P Jul 26 11:21:44 Sorry, I meant i did not buy the n800. I have a 770 and a n810 Jul 26 11:22:04 what misinformation Myrtti, im playing farcry on my n810 right now Jul 26 11:22:12 I have a n800 and I had a n810. They keyboard on that thing was useless Jul 26 11:22:21 the n810 Jul 26 11:22:21 lcuk: android not having a keyboard Jul 26 11:22:28 etc Jul 26 11:22:29 hell of a lot better than the one on the n800 Jul 26 11:22:37 kkrusty: I like it, I don't write novels on it though Jul 26 11:22:37 it became a REAL computer when the kb was added Jul 26 11:22:50 and you kids know nothing, get a zx81 or something Jul 26 11:22:53 really? Jul 26 11:23:02 nai1sirk: well even IMing is a pain on the n810 Jul 26 11:23:09 Myrtti <-- kinda critical today Jul 26 11:23:09 harder than n800? Jul 26 11:23:12 Is that a zx81 in your pocket? ... Jul 26 11:23:29 RST38h: I've grown to dislike IRC of late Jul 26 11:23:29 for mobile its even better Jul 26 11:23:30 nai1sirk: no, it's Atari 5200 Game system Jul 26 11:23:34 no I have upgraded to zx spectrum Jul 26 11:23:38 i so prefer the keyboard on n810 over iphone Jul 26 11:23:55 I prefer the keyboard of N800 over N95 Jul 26 11:23:57 Myrtti: better than a thousand other ways to waste time Jul 26 11:24:15 RST38h: I like knitting and watching movies Jul 26 11:24:21 lcuk: for me 3 things matter: 1) battery life 2) openness (no iphone) 3) a keyboard Jul 26 11:24:52 ok, so carry a cherry keyboard a car battery and a pda Jul 26 11:25:04 * RST38h has not knit for 20+ years and watching a movie on a commuter train would look silly Jul 26 11:25:10 lcuk: in one piece :) Jul 26 11:25:10 hence irc Jul 26 11:25:21 I fear it may become less open with a mobile chip inside. Carriers are not happy about open devices that you can install voip etc. on Jul 26 11:25:22 kkrusty, duct tape was invented for this very purpose Jul 26 11:25:30 I did knit my whole commute to and from my cousins wedding last weekend Jul 26 11:25:32 the htc hero which would be a good candidate for this if it had a keyboard Jul 26 11:25:35 made up a nice shawl Jul 26 11:25:39 or Myrtti can knit you something Jul 26 11:25:43 heh Jul 26 11:25:57 lcuk: I prefer glue Jul 26 11:26:13 whatever, but i find it sticks to my needles Jul 26 11:26:24 nice pink shawl. http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/3745022697 Jul 26 11:26:28 Myrtti: kudotko mattoja? Jul 26 11:26:42 a nice pink phone would match that Jul 26 11:26:46 thux: years and years ago Jul 26 11:27:15 sweet, flashrom works Jul 26 11:27:19 * kkrusty made a small bluetooth wardriving script for his n800 Jul 26 11:27:30 wazd: did you know there is a station called Anykeyevka btw? Jul 26 11:27:30 Myrtti: ok just i have extra kangaspuut to dispose somewhere Jul 26 11:27:54 RST38h: yep :) [:/\/\:] :) Jul 26 11:27:54 thux: moving to UK this year :-/ Jul 26 11:28:00 Unless I am having hallucinations of course Jul 26 11:28:14 Myrtti: ok cool Jul 26 11:28:23 https://sourceforge.net/projects/ploxscan/ Jul 26 11:28:31 * Myrtti goes about to draw a bath long overdue Jul 26 11:29:07 dont forget the deo after Jul 26 11:29:09 ;-p Jul 26 11:29:44 Myrtti in pencil> Jul 26 11:29:45 ? Jul 26 11:30:01 Poor little e70 is dying Jul 26 11:30:34 it requires some work to get going but Im using it as a python programming exercise Jul 26 11:31:08 Its corpse will be preserved for the history while its soul goes to the great backup storage in the sky Jul 26 11:32:29 * kkrusty wonders if anyone is looking at his project Jul 26 11:33:05 kkrusty: not fromhere, not unless you describe it verbally Jul 26 11:34:18 what app is most used in maemo? kind of killer app as they say Jul 26 11:34:24 kkrusty: have you released a version of it yet? It looks cool Jul 26 11:34:40 thux: gpodder Jul 26 11:34:45 RST38h: well its a script that scans for bluetooth devices and speech synthesizes the names of the devices it found and the time it found them. It logs its results to a sqlite db and if it refinds something it will also tell you when it last found the device Jul 26 11:34:55 thux: fbreader here Jul 26 11:34:56 nai1sirk: not yet. Jul 26 11:35:35 ~musthave Jul 26 11:35:36 somebody said musthave was Maemo Mapper, FBReader, Vagalume, Canola, Numpty Physics, X-Chat, Evince, ScummVM, MyTube, MPlayer, Advanced Backlight, USBControl, Large Statusbar Clock, Transmission and much more. Also see http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Remarkable_community_projects Jul 26 11:35:42 kkrusty: sounds fun, does not take a few things into account Jul 26 11:36:05 kkrusty: one is the battery drain Jul 26 11:36:10 RST38h: true. Jul 26 11:36:20 and? Jul 26 11:36:36 kkrusty: anotheris that quite a few bt names may be unpronouncable Jul 26 11:36:40 Vagalume was a must have app until last.fm started a subscription only service in all smaller countries:-P Now I have left it in the dust Jul 26 11:36:49 RST38h: that too is true. Jul 26 11:36:58 I's really like a spotify app though Jul 26 11:36:59 RST38h: I've had that happen quite a lot of times Jul 26 11:37:00 not everyone calls their device "rover" :) Jul 26 11:37:07 nai1sirk: i pay my 3 eur a month happily. compared to the bw i use at their site, i don't mind. Jul 26 11:37:18 vagalume worksforme Jul 26 11:37:43 RST38h++ but I'm in the UK, where it's still free Jul 26 11:38:11 i have registered my account in the us Jul 26 11:38:11 RST38h: what would you think of a solution that involved gps? Jul 26 11:38:17 it seems to work Jul 26 11:38:40 kkrusty: more battery drain, shitty gps on n810 Jul 26 11:38:49 Last.fm and pandora(earlier) have so many limitations, that it's like radio (you can't decide the exact track) So I prefer spotify Jul 26 11:38:57 kkrusty: here is a better idea Jul 26 11:39:18 nai: yea, i prefer playing local music way better Jul 26 11:39:50 Stskeeps, arent you meant to be debconfing it and not paying attention to irc lol Jul 26 11:39:54 nai: except that lastfm may sometimes hint me on more music to liten to Jul 26 11:40:35 kkrusty: make it scan for bt devices hack into them and ply subliminal messages! :) Jul 26 11:40:48 Did anyone ever try despotify on tablets? It builds using its ao audio backend but my Spotify account is a free one, so I couldn't test it Jul 26 11:40:56 I was thinking of changing the scan frequency and duration depending on whether the user is moving or not. Jul 26 11:41:24 lcuk: hacklab, no interesting talks for 4 hours Jul 26 11:41:29 RST38h: does this project give a sinister vibe? because this is the same thing someone else told me to do :D Jul 26 11:41:32 gps will eat way more power than you can save this way Jul 26 11:41:53 RST38h: accelerometer? Jul 26 11:41:53 kkrusty: the sinisterer the better! Jul 26 11:42:05 no accelerometer on n8x0 Jul 26 11:42:10 cool, Stskeeps what have you seen thats impressed you so far Jul 26 11:42:27 RST38h: well a usb accelerometer I guess Jul 26 11:42:42 more power drain Jul 26 11:42:48 lcuk: i've seen things that didn't impress me.. Jul 26 11:43:12 RST38h: actually if I can try to vary the scan frequencies depending on the scan results I get I guess the battery life can improve a bit. Overall it isnt that much of a battery drain from experience Jul 26 11:43:47 Stskeeps thats not a good impression then, is the beer cold and good? Jul 26 11:43:52 yes, but what would be the goal of collecting this data? Jul 26 11:43:54 RST38h: I think I'll need to properly measure the battery life with and without the script running to get a better idea Jul 26 11:43:55 haven't had a drop of alcohol really :P Jul 26 11:44:15 I mean if not for snding subliminal msgs Jul 26 11:44:54 oo, a bit too hot Jul 26 11:45:49 ohmygod chrisian graffiti Jul 26 11:46:00 RST38h: possibly no useful goals. All it does is give you an estimate of how many people you come across and also tell you if you met the same person during different times Jul 26 11:46:00 bathtubtablet, Myrtti ? :P Jul 26 11:46:12 Stskeeps: ♥ Jul 26 11:46:25 one of the best usecases Jul 26 11:46:41 kkrusty: ah, knowledge building thing! use the camera too :) Jul 26 11:46:42 that, and lootablet Jul 26 11:46:55 lootablet is wrong :| Jul 26 11:47:13 tis not Jul 26 11:47:40 thats like tweeting Jul 26 11:47:46 RST38h: its funny how when Im standing at a bus stop and a guy walks up next to me and it announces: "yes I know I need a shave. First seen now. " Jul 26 11:47:46 how else am i supposed to communicate in a pubs ladiesroom? Jul 26 11:47:49 "im crapping" Jul 26 11:48:01 Myrtti, SHOUT! Jul 26 11:48:18 "please caall me and make up an excuse to get me out of here" Jul 26 11:48:29 why would you want communicate there? Jul 26 11:49:03 kkrusty: and you are calling me sinister... Jul 26 11:49:12 Myrtti, thats a different thing Jul 26 11:49:31 thats a panic button/easter egg on the device itself Jul 26 11:49:39 oh crap Jul 26 11:49:57 my shaver fell in Jul 26 11:50:11 RST38h: well what they name their phones is public knowledge isnt it? or they could just disable device discovery Jul 26 11:50:41 * Myrtti anticipates a painful encounter with Gillette triple blade Jul 26 11:50:48 satan likes stupid people yes Jul 26 11:51:24 (that was to kkrusty =)) Jul 26 11:51:47 Myrtti, does tablet cope underwater? Jul 26 11:52:32 lcuk: haven't tested, will not either Jul 26 11:52:50 there are so many exciting things you can use this for. Like finding out that A B and C have been previously seen during the same scan. Maybe they're a group! Jul 26 11:52:52 good idea lol Jul 26 11:52:56 all right next stop is mine Jul 26 11:53:26 kkrusty, you need to put it all on an aliens style radar pinging thing Jul 26 11:53:40 "omg theyre right on top of us, theyr in the frikkin walls man" Jul 26 11:54:24 is that project a touch too crazy? Jul 26 11:55:09 i dunno, we discussed making one last year Jul 26 11:55:15 bt ping times are a bit excessive tho Jul 26 11:56:03 well... I imagine that future bt ping times will be less Jul 26 11:56:29 retroactive upgrades to existing hardware? Jul 26 11:56:29 lcuk: all in all its a python programming exercise for me Jul 26 11:56:42 thats what riply said Jul 26 11:56:57 lcuk: no. porting this to symbian or newer tablets Jul 26 11:57:04 for instance Jul 26 11:57:57 you want to have it for next devices or not? the sentence doesn't parse too well Jul 26 11:58:46 lcuk: well yeah Jul 26 12:00:33 the bluetooth device is broadcasting from inside the house! Jul 26 12:02:17 so are you guys going to give me 100,000 pounds or what? Seems like I just went to the dragon's den Jul 26 12:03:44 kkrusty, yeah, but before i do i have to ask for a favour Jul 26 12:03:57 can you lend me �120,000, im a bit short today Jul 26 12:03:58 no Jul 26 12:04:08 I had that "no" before your last message Jul 26 12:04:38 heh sounds like you play too many irc quizes :P Jul 26 12:04:46 you were too slow Jul 26 12:05:20 lcuk: I blame a bad keyboard Jul 26 12:05:55 a true gamer would blame their isp, mother, god and their unborn child on lag Jul 26 12:06:28 * lcuk wins another small liqbase battle Jul 26 12:06:45 lcuk: the keyboard argument has context Jul 26 12:06:52 *matches context Jul 26 12:07:06 I've been bitching about the n810 keyboard Jul 26 12:08:59 yeah yeah :P Jul 26 12:09:09 is there a way to find out the number of threads in an app Jul 26 12:09:39 ie, if i am busy loading 100 images can i obtain the thread count and show it somewhere Jul 26 12:10:10 google brings me crap about fabric Jul 26 12:11:16 How many here chatting from a NIT? Jul 26 12:11:32 occasionally Jul 26 12:13:47 I'm still trying to find a good use for my old 770, stskeeps, will there be an updated build of mer for 770, or have you abandoned it entirely? Jul 26 12:14:32 nai1sirk: we are working on it - my 770'ed WSODed so I don't -personally- use time on it anymore. but others do. Jul 26 12:15:50 i just had Mer booting on a 770 yesterday, here at debconf, so Jul 26 13:05:22 johnx, is this you :o http://www.manofest.com/Galleries/Funny/50-Epic-Super-Nerd-Photos/50-Epic-Super-Nerd-Photos_30-5233.html#joomimg Jul 26 13:05:47 for other folks, comparison http://www.flickr.com/photos/28959625@N04/3580915680/ Jul 26 13:06:12 lcuk, http://www.manofest.com/Galleries/Funny/50-Epic-Super-Nerd-Photos/50-Epic-Super-Nerd-Photos_1-5204.html#joomimg Jul 26 13:06:14 is this you ? Jul 26 13:06:24 :O shit how did that get out Jul 26 13:06:30 lol Jul 26 13:06:37 you told me you wouldnt post it on the net :'( Jul 26 13:07:39 what can I say...... I lied Jul 26 13:07:56 its not all bad, at least you put a pic of yourself up too :D Jul 26 13:07:58 http://www.manofest.com/Galleries/Funny/50-Epic-Super-Nerd-Photos/50-Epic-Super-Nerd-Photos_44-5247.html#joomimg Jul 26 13:08:20 lol Jul 26 13:08:40 that has to be me and my twin brother then, judging by his mass Jul 26 13:08:45 holy poo, i didnt actually realise i was on that photo with johnx lol Jul 26 13:08:56 (the flickr one) Jul 26 13:46:11 Look what just went over: http://www.flickr.com/photos/96141280@N00/3758177598/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/96141280@N00/3757379403/ Jul 26 13:47:26 looks like Duxford Jul 26 13:47:33 my house :) Jul 26 13:47:44