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Apr 24 03:29:28 <esaym153> what wifi chipset does the n810 use?
Apr 24 03:30:01 <psycho_oreos> probably stlc450
Apr 24 03:32:56 <luke-jr> stlc45xx or so
Apr 24 03:35:58 <chx> esaym153: did you google?
Apr 24 03:36:10 <chx> esaym153: nokia n810 wifi chipset first result is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=13739
Apr 24 03:36:35 <esaym153> oh
Apr 24 03:37:12 <chx> oh.
Apr 24 03:40:05 * psycho_oreos bets someone will start saying that its easier to ask than to google ._.'
Apr 24 03:41:20 <esaym153> I actually googled for about 10 minutes before hand... But yes, I knew where to ask
Apr 24 03:44:19 * psycho_oreos thinks someone needs to learn how to google-fu :)
Apr 24 03:49:58 <chx> googling is a peculiar skill
Apr 24 03:50:20 <chx> I found it's insanely hard to teach
Apr 24 06:05:04 <beford> wait I don't remember having seen a timer camera on n900, is that from cssu?
Apr 24 06:07:14 <psycho_oreos> timer?
Apr 24 06:07:25 <beford> like a timer to take pictures
Apr 24 06:07:26 <beford> :P
Apr 24 06:07:34 <beford> not sure what to call it.
Apr 24 06:08:14 <psycho_oreos> the icon on the side that looks like a clock? yes that's from cssu
Apr 24 06:08:28 <beford> cool
Apr 24 06:08:46 <psycho_oreos> there's many other changes, you might also want to consult cssu wiki in regards to that
Apr 24 06:09:23 <psycho_oreos> e.g. there's changes in the distance between the camera and the object if one aims the target within the green rectangle
Apr 24 06:14:33 <psycho_oreos> who here has two N900 lol :)
Apr 24 06:35:00 <Jaffa> Morning, all
Apr 24 06:35:12 <Jaffa> ZogG: belated pong
Apr 24 07:03:41 <pupnik> moinmoin
Apr 24 07:50:10 <Termana> good morning
Apr 24 10:11:39 <Gyjf> hey
Apr 24 10:12:29 <Gyjf> anyone know a music player for the n900 thats better than the default one?
Apr 24 10:12:58 <lcuk> the community media player is extra awesome
Apr 24 10:13:22 <Gyjf> is that in the respositories?
Apr 24 10:13:53 <lcuk> MohammadAG, how does one get hold of the media player?
Apr 24 10:14:59 <Gyjf> ive also heard something about rockbox
Apr 24 11:27:24 <MohammadAG> lcuk, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=72156
Apr 24 11:28:25 <lcuk> bravo!
Apr 24 11:47:12 <MohammadAG> lcuk, it has problems with unicode names
Apr 24 11:47:34 <MohammadAG> I'm pretty sure I have all QStrings using fromUtf8()
Apr 24 11:52:59 <lcuk> MohammadAG, unicode is hard.
Apr 24 11:53:27 <lcuk> There are many good people around Qt who could help, ask w00t_ for some pointers if needbe.
Apr 24 12:07:38 <jatt> how do I type the pipe symbol in the n900
Apr 24 12:19:10 <Gh0sty> jatt: you use the 'symbol' key on your keyboard
Apr 24 12:19:21 <Gh0sty> and you select the pipe sign from the onscreen keyboard? :p
Apr 24 13:33:32 <GeneralAntilles> Easiest way to test the proximity sensor?
Apr 24 13:33:38 <GeneralAntilles> I think mine's stopped working.
Apr 24 13:36:27 <SpeedEvil> Put your finger over it
Apr 24 13:38:15 <SpeedEvil> Nokia-N900:/sys/devices/platform/gpio-switch/proximity# cat state
Apr 24 13:38:15 <SpeedEvil> open
Apr 24 13:44:21 <GeneralAntilles> Working
Apr 24 13:44:28 <GeneralAntilles> Dialer and alarm must just be idiots, then.
Apr 24 13:48:56 * SpeedEvil should work out why his camera app is not starting on boot
Apr 24 15:33:51 <RST38h> moo?
Apr 24 15:34:28 <psycho_oreos> how long does the locale data last if one removes the main battery from N900 and without having the device connected to other sources of power supply?
Apr 24 15:34:33 <psycho_oreos> ?oom
Apr 24 15:35:24 <MohammadAG> 30s I think
Apr 24 15:36:15 <psycho_oreos> hmm thanks, I'll have to test that on my other n900, my original N900 does last for more than what 3 seconds without any power before I get that stupid locale prompt
Apr 24 15:37:19 <MohammadAG> same I think, but it should last 30s
Apr 24 15:37:25 <MohammadAG> at least that's how it was before
Apr 24 15:37:56 <psycho_oreos> it wasn't for my original N900 :| somehow I recalled that was known as a defective issue with certain N900
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Apr 24 16:55:01 <RST38h> http://demotivation.me/baiqk5xc7rbypic.html  <-- "new iPad starts selling"
Apr 24 16:56:35 <BCMM> bleh, anyone else find the scratchbox's g++ keeps warning about no newline at end of files when there is clearly a newline at the end of the file?
Apr 24 16:57:30 <RST38h> there is none
Apr 24 16:57:42 <RST38h> you have to have an extra empty line there just in case
Apr 24 16:58:29 <nox-> id say its a q of the editor used
Apr 24 16:58:48 <nox-> some may not put newlines at eof by themselves
Apr 24 18:19:39 <Sazpaimon> can someone please help me with scratchbox? It gives giving me weird errors with my compiled programs
Apr 24 18:19:55 <Sazpaimon> for some reason it's trying to link to GLIBCXX_3.4
Apr 24 18:46:37 <sms_> help, please: N900 gets to multiboot, but maemo is broken so it won't boot.. reflashing the thing doesn't work either, "Suitable USB device not found, waiting" forever..
Apr 24 18:47:35 <sms_> if I plug it in the wall charger I get an orange dot for 3 seconds and it enters the vibrate->backlit nokia screen->non backlit nokia screen->off->repeat
Apr 24 18:53:13 <abissom> sms.. i have no N900..but your problem was discussed here yesterday..
Apr 24 18:53:23 <abissom> let me check the logs :)
Apr 24 18:53:32 <sms_> please do :)
Apr 24 18:55:36 <abissom> found it
Apr 24 18:55:43 <abissom> http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2011-04-23.log.html#t2011-04-23T16:18:40
Apr 24 18:56:11 <abissom> billmania had your problem
Apr 24 18:56:58 <sms_> ok ill look into it
Apr 24 19:08:51 <jacekowski> sms_: flash it
Apr 24 19:38:41 <sms_> jacekowski, I can't get the usb icon with the usb cable. When it does the nokia loop with a wall charger, the icon comes on after many loops. But with the usb cable the icon won't show up, and the nokia screen isn't backlit
Apr 24 19:41:21 <sms_> or it is, but the backlight won't come on after a few loops anymore, yet still no icon
Apr 24 19:42:50 <sms_> Ugh..
Apr 24 19:44:27 <sms_> wall charer plugged: backlit loops -> usb icon-> hold u -> usb icon stays in the corner.
Apr 24 19:46:30 <sms_> ->unplug the charger->usb icon goes away+plug the usb cable->phone back in backlit nokia loop->dim nokia loop
Apr 24 19:46:39 <abissom> sms_: did u read what DocScrutinizer was saying in the logs?
Apr 24 19:46:56 <abissom> careful you don't make situation worse
Apr 24 19:47:31 <billmania> sms_: abissom: Has the problem been solved?
Apr 24 19:47:52 <sms_> nope..
Apr 24 19:48:11 <sms_> yours?
Apr 24 19:48:23 <billmania> sms_: I was able to recover my N900 yesterday. What is the current state of your N900?
Apr 24 19:48:43 <sms_> dim nokia loop
Apr 24 19:48:55 <sms_> oh now backlit again..
Apr 24 19:49:03 <sms_> wall charger plugged in
Apr 24 19:49:08 <billmania> Did you follow the procedure which abissom mentioned earlier this afternoon?
Apr 24 19:49:24 <sms_> I wasn't here earlier
Apr 24 19:49:33 <sms_> I've tried all kinds of stuff..
Apr 24 19:49:42 <billmania> Does your IRC client not have a log for the channel?
Apr 24 19:49:49 <abissom> i linked u to the logs
Apr 24 19:50:38 <sms_> sorry my head is filled with nokia, loop, battery
Apr 24 19:50:40 <sms_> :)
Apr 24 19:50:47 <DocScrutinizer> now you see why multiboot is deprecated
Apr 24 19:51:10 <abissom> http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2011-04-23.log.html#t2011-04-23T16:11:11
Apr 24 19:51:45 <billmania> sms_: Maybe I can help you through the procedure this time. Let's see if your N900 is in the "can't boot an OS so loop looking for a firmware image from USB".
Apr 24 19:51:56 <billmania> First, what is the charge level of the battery?
Apr 24 19:52:14 <sms_> 3.2V
Apr 24 19:52:29 <billmania> You removed it and measured it with a meter?
Apr 24 19:53:13 <sms_> 3,42
Apr 24 19:53:14 <sms_> now
Apr 24 19:53:29 <sms_> yes
Apr 24 19:54:15 <billmania> OK. Keep the battery removed from the N900.
Apr 24 19:54:15 <ShadowJK> 3.2 is shutdown threshold, 3.5 is low battery warning threshold
Apr 24 19:54:37 <sms_> oh
Apr 24 19:54:38 <billmania> Are you setup with a computer to flash the firmware image onto the N900 already?
Apr 24 19:54:43 <sms_> yep
Apr 24 19:55:04 <sms_> Suitable USB device not found, waiting.
Apr 24 19:55:07 <billmania> The reason I suggest keeping the battery removed is because you cannot charge the battery until you have a working OS on the N900.
Apr 24 19:55:19 <billmania> Keeping it removed will allow it to recover a bit of voltage.
Apr 24 19:55:29 <sms_> I see
Apr 24 19:55:42 <sms_> But the really puzzling part is that I can get the usb icon with the wall charger
Apr 24 19:55:50 <sms_> but not the usb cable
Apr 24 19:56:27 <billmania> Are you reading this URL: http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware ?
Apr 24 19:56:41 <sms_> yes
Apr 24 19:57:27 <billmania> Which OS on your computer?
Apr 24 19:57:36 <sms_> ubuntu 64bit
Apr 24 19:57:45 <billmania> Great. Same as me.
Apr 24 19:57:55 <sms_> tried with 32bit mint too
Apr 24 19:58:02 <sms_> and 64bit win7
Apr 24 19:58:14 <sms_> but never can I get the usb icon to appear unless itäs on the wall charger
Apr 24 19:58:43 <billmania> Can you use the USB cable, which you're trying between your computer and the N900, with some other USB device, to confirm that the cable is fully functional?
Apr 24 19:59:10 <sms_> no, but I guess I can check it with a multimeter..
Apr 24 19:59:27 <billmania> The N900 USB cable? That would be quite a feat.
Apr 24 19:59:44 <sms_> yeah I just realized that..
Apr 24 19:59:52 <billmania> Have you ever used that N900 USB cable successfully with this particular N900 in the past?
Apr 24 20:00:03 <sms_> yes many times
Apr 24 20:00:21 <billmania> OK. Let's assume there's nothing wrong with the USB cable (since we really don't have any other choice).
Apr 24 20:01:07 <billmania> So, connect the N900 USB cable to your computer and execute Step 7 from http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#Linux
Apr 24 20:01:20 <billmania> Do not connect the N900 to anything yet and don't install the battery yet.
Apr 24 20:01:36 <billmania> sms_: Do you reach Step 8?
Apr 24 20:02:02 <sms_> Suitable USB device not found, waiting, yep
Apr 24 20:02:09 <billmania> Beauteous.
Apr 24 20:02:16 * nox- is wondering if such a phone should better come with an external charger if it needs a working install to charge...
Apr 24 20:02:23 <billmania> Now, we may have to move quickly.
Apr 24 20:02:27 <sms_> o
Apr 24 20:02:29 <sms_> k
Apr 24 20:02:32 <billmania> nox-: I agree completely.
Apr 24 20:03:00 <billmania> sms_: Install the battery in the N900, keep the "u' key pressed and then connect the USB cable to the N900.
Apr 24 20:03:20 <billmania> Watch your computer display as soon as you connect the USB cable, to see if the flasher finds the USB device.
Apr 24 20:03:46 <sms_> U pressed while inserting the battery, or before inserting the usb cable
Apr 24 20:03:49 <billmania> nox-: This battery charging business is another weakness in what is otherwise, in my opinion, a good design for a tablet computer.
Apr 24 20:04:09 <billmania> Before you connect the USB cable, press and keep depressed the "u" key on the N900.
Apr 24 20:04:31 <billmania> First, install battery. Second, depress "u" key. Third, connect USB cable. Fourth, watch the computer display.
Apr 24 20:04:49 <nox-> billmania, yes otherwise i like the n900 too
Apr 24 20:05:36 <sms_> just a dim nokia screen, then backlit nokia screen and looop
Apr 24 20:05:44 <sms_> nothing changed on the pc
Apr 24 20:06:27 <billmania> sms_: OK. Release the "u" key and disconnect the USB cable from the N900.
Apr 24 20:06:47 <sms_> ok
Apr 24 20:07:52 <billmania> sms_: If the N900 is ready to received a firmware image now, you should see the lower left lamp flash once, and a dim NOKIA banner on the display. That will last for a few seconds then you'll see the same sequence again.
Apr 24 20:07:55 <billmania> Is that the case?
Apr 24 20:08:44 <sms_> the little lamp doesn't flash
Apr 24 20:08:51 <sms_> and now it's just a black screen
Apr 24 20:09:19 <billmania> There is a possibility that your N900 battery doesn't have sufficient charge to enter the loop.
Apr 24 20:09:31 <sms_> but I can get there if I press the power button
Apr 24 20:09:36 <billmania> I suggest removing it from the N900 and leaving it removed for at least 30 minutes.
Apr 24 20:09:53 <sms_> with the light.
Apr 24 20:10:57 <billmania> sms_: Can you get the dim NOKIA banner and a flash of the lower left lamp, if you press the N900 power button?
Apr 24 20:11:47 <sms_> No, the lamp stays on and a backlit nokia screen comes on.
Apr 24 20:11:58 <sms_> if the keyboard is open, the multiboot screen shows up
Apr 24 20:12:22 <billmania> Ah, yes, someone mentioned "multiboot" earlier in the channel.
Apr 24 20:12:35 <Sicelo> :)
Apr 24 20:12:48 <billmania> You've now exceeded my knowledge of how to recover the boot image on the N900.
Apr 24 20:13:03 <sms_> :D oh man
Apr 24 20:13:40 <sms_> I feel it's all about the usb icon
Apr 24 20:13:50 <sms_> It comes on with the wall charger after a few loops
Apr 24 20:13:59 <sms_> But with the usb cable it won't
Apr 24 20:14:02 <sms_> : (
Apr 24 20:14:15 <Sicelo> i'd still say scour the logs...
Apr 24 20:14:46 <billmania> sms_: I agree with Sicelo. Also, research how the changes you've applied for multiboot affect the management of battery charging and the management of firmware flashing.
Apr 24 20:14:58 <Sicelo> there's a nice search funtion too
Apr 24 20:15:25 <billmania> sms_: The procedure described at http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware may not apply in the "multiboot" situation.
Apr 24 20:16:43 <sms_> I don't know what's been done to this phone because it's not mine and my friend is such a dumb ass :)
Apr 24 20:17:21 <sms_> He tried to install nitdroid on it
Apr 24 20:17:46 <pupnik> i wonder if maemo.org hosting is in danger of disappearing
Apr 24 20:18:12 <Sicelo> what's happening pupnik ?
Apr 24 20:19:12 <billmania> sms_: Might be time for a "Sorry, man, can't help you". Offer him USD 10 for salvage on the bricked phone. :-D
Apr 24 20:19:45 <sms_> too bad he's sitting right next to me and read that :D
Apr 24 20:19:46 <psycho_oreos> furthermore, there's no way one can archive such useful data easily once the site disappears. It will take everything with it and vanish like as if it never existed.
Apr 24 20:20:54 <DocScrutinizer> sms_: your battery is way too weak. NOLO bootloader detects that and decides not to enter flash mode but rather boot the linux to start charging. Alas the system is borked and doesn't boot up and so doesn't charge
Apr 24 20:21:15 <billmania> Why would any reasonable person want to replace Maemo with Android? Wait, is it because he wanted lots of "apps"?
Apr 24 20:21:17 <sms_> So I need to charge the battery
Apr 24 20:21:30 <DocScrutinizer> yes
Apr 24 20:21:39 <sms_> Ok I'll hack something together
Apr 24 20:21:41 <sms_> :)
Apr 24 20:21:50 <DocScrutinizer> external charger, either dedicated or some compatible NOKIA phone
Apr 24 20:21:56 <psycho_oreos> he better hope to be able to buy a spare battery, hope there's someone else that he knows of whom may have N95-1 lol
Apr 24 20:22:06 <sms_> And he's just trying to get into the wonderful world of typing stuff into the terminal
Apr 24 20:22:20 <billmania> sms_: Where in the world are you located?
Apr 24 20:22:24 <sms_> finland
Apr 24 20:22:39 <billmania> Finland! Close to Tampere?
Apr 24 20:22:49 <sms_> lempäälä
Apr 24 20:23:01 <billmania> There must be 36 gazillion Nokia phones within 100 meters of you.
Apr 24 20:23:24 <sms_> Well I don't feel comfortable knocking on every neighbours door :)
Apr 24 20:23:40 <DocScrutinizer> iirc lower limit for Ubat for NOLO to enter flashing mode when holding 'u' is ~3.6
Apr 24 20:24:03 <sms_> THAT is great to know
Apr 24 20:24:04 <billmania> Stephen Elop would be more than happy to invite you over for Easter dinner and to help you support Maemo on the N900. :-D
Apr 24 20:24:17 <Gyjf> does anyone know where to get the "community media player" for n900 ?
Apr 24 20:24:30 <DocScrutinizer> do you have an "old" Nokia wallcharger? with a 3mm barrel connector?
Apr 24 20:24:46 <sms_> yep
Apr 24 20:24:55 <billmania> DocScrutinizer: According to the log, sms_'s battery is an anemic 3.42 VDC. :-(
Apr 24 20:25:53 <DocScrutinizer> Nokia wallchargers have pretty decent constant current and a variable output voltage, so you can charge your battery directly for some 10..15min, if it's *DEFINITELY* depleted and down to <3.4 V
Apr 24 20:26:23 * Sicelo notes that.. thanks for info DocScrutinizer 
Apr 24 20:26:29 <DocScrutinizer> no need for series resistor to limit current to <1A
Apr 24 20:27:17 <DocScrutinizer> just keep a an eye on charging closely! overcharging LiIon cells is really DANGEROUS
Apr 24 20:27:27 <sms_> It's 3.29V right now
Apr 24 20:28:20 <psycho_oreos> hate to ask, but wouldn't the bootloop prevent BME to get the battery charging from wall charger? iirc. When one has N900 connected to a powered USB node I remember seeing the kernel bootup to ACT_DEAD state before it goes into charging state
Apr 24 20:28:37 <DocScrutinizer> so 10min at a 800mA or similar nokia wallcharger (plus inner, GND/- outer contact of barrel plug) will give you some probably sufficient charge
Apr 24 20:29:02 <SpeedEvil> DocScrutinizer: http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?262234-TK-Monster-Explosion
Apr 24 20:29:13 <SpeedEvil> Fun.
Apr 24 20:29:20 <DocScrutinizer> psycho_oreos: exactly. that's why you get into a deadlock with low bat plus flashing_needed
Apr 24 20:29:31 <SpeedEvil> Unusually exciting battery oops.
Apr 24 20:30:02 <sms_> 5.7V 800mA says the charger
Apr 24 20:30:16 <DocScrutinizer> that's exactly OK
Apr 24 20:30:25 <sms_> so the shell of the barrel to the minus terminal, inside of the barrel to the + terminal
Apr 24 20:30:29 <sms_> 10minutes
Apr 24 20:30:40 <DocScrutinizer> the voltage will drop to whatever the cell voltage is, at 800..900mA
Apr 24 20:30:50 <DocScrutinizer> yes, exactly
Apr 24 20:31:22 <DocScrutinizer> hold the cell with your fingers all the time, and stop procedure as soon as you sense any increase in temperature
Apr 24 20:32:02 <DocScrutinizer> DO NOT mix the plus and minus
Apr 24 20:32:13 <psycho_oreos> DocScrutinizer, I thought by then one cannot really charge their N900 unless if they have some other device that is capable of charging BL-5J
Apr 24 20:32:25 <psycho_oreos> ahh wait I understand, you're doing it all by hand
Apr 24 20:32:28 <DocScrutinizer> sleve of plug to MINUS of battery, inner contact to PLUS
Apr 24 20:34:18 <DocScrutinizer> check the + and - and voltage with a DVM
Apr 24 20:34:32 <DocScrutinizer> of the wallcharger
Apr 24 20:34:56 <psycho_oreos> SpeedEvil, interesting link there, I should point that out to me dad, he recently bought some 18650 batteries as they are easily obtained from electronics stores
Apr 24 20:36:01 <SpeedEvil> psycho_oreos: In short - make sure that especially high drain devices have vent plugs in their battery compatments
Apr 24 20:36:06 <sms_> DocScrutinizer, DVM?
Apr 24 20:36:13 <sms_> the voltage of the charger?
Apr 24 20:36:18 <DocScrutinizer> DMM, multimeter
Apr 24 20:36:24 <DocScrutinizer> yes
Apr 24 20:36:26 <sms_> ah
Apr 24 20:36:34 <SpeedEvil> That's stupid - it's drawing 10A from each cell though. 250W halogen bulb
Apr 24 20:36:40 <DocScrutinizer> also volt of cell
Apr 24 20:37:16 <sms_> 6.04V the charger outputs
Apr 24 20:37:40 <sms_> 3.29V the battery
Apr 24 20:38:07 <psycho_oreos> SpeedEvil, true but cheap electronic equipment :) what can you expect when it could cause such a nasty pipe bomb. QA for electronic equipment that can otherwise be obtained so cheaply has safety requirements thrown out the window just for the sake of cheapness
Apr 24 20:38:17 <sms_> I'll proceed to stick the wires into the battery-->
Apr 24 20:38:28 <SpeedEvil> psycho_oreos: IIRC that was a $300 flashlight
Apr 24 20:39:31 <psycho_oreos> SpeedEvil, well I was talking about in me dad's case :) he got some really cheap flashlight that utilises 18650 batteries
Apr 24 20:40:09 <SpeedEvil> ah
Apr 24 20:40:20 <SpeedEvil> IIf it's single cell, it's not really an issue
Apr 24 20:41:18 <psycho_oreos> then again, he bought 2 x 18650 batteries from China, some generic branded batteries *shrug*
Apr 24 20:46:46 <sms_> 4 more minutes..
Apr 24 20:46:55 <sms_> my fingers are getting numb
Apr 24 20:46:58 <sms_> :p
Apr 24 20:50:49 <sms_> hmmh
Apr 24 20:51:24 <sms_> and the voltage is..
Apr 24 20:51:57 <sms_> 3.7!
Apr 24 20:51:59 <sms_> Wuu
Apr 24 21:00:07 <sms_> Damit
Apr 24 21:00:25 <sms_> USB device found found at bus 001, device address 006.
Apr 24 21:00:27 <sms_> Found device RX-51, hardware revision 2204
Apr 24 21:00:29 <sms_> NOLO version 1.4.14
Apr 24 21:00:30 <sms_> Version of 'sw-release': RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2_PR_MR0
Apr 24 21:00:32 <sms_> Booting device into flash mode.
Apr 24 21:00:33 <sms_> Suitable USB device not found, waiting.
Apr 24 21:00:44 <sms_> Booting device into flash mode. --> multiboot screen..
Apr 24 21:01:21 <ShadowJK> 1) disconnect N900. 2) remove battery from n900: 3) Start flashing utility on PC. 4) Connect N900 to PC. 5) Insert battery
Apr 24 21:01:26 <ShadowJK> Did you do that?
Apr 24 21:02:27 <sms_> yes
Apr 24 21:02:33 <sms_> ->nokia loop
Apr 24 21:02:37 <sms_> hold u?
Apr 24 21:02:59 <ShadowJK> need more power, I guess :)
Apr 24 21:03:07 <sms_> : |
Apr 24 21:03:37 <sms_> Image 'mmc', size 255947 kB
Apr 24 21:03:39 <sms_> 	Version RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA
Apr 24 21:03:40 <sms_> Suitable USB device not found, waiting.
Apr 24 21:03:42 <sms_> ->
Apr 24 21:03:55 <sms_> USB device found found at bus 001, device address 018.
Apr 24 21:03:57 <sms_> Found device RX-51, hardware revision 2204
Apr 24 21:03:58 <sms_> NOLO version 1.4.14
Apr 24 21:04:00 <sms_> Version of 'sw-release': RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2_PR_MR0
Apr 24 21:04:01 <sms_> Booting device into flash mode.
Apr 24 21:04:03 <sms_> Suitable USB device not found, waiting.
Apr 24 21:04:07 <sms_> ->nokia loopping w/ the usb icon
Apr 24 21:04:56 <nox-> http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?s=56327babd89c1d6758177c3ff3f0835f&p=906515#post906515
Apr 24 21:05:02 <nox-> i saved that link once...
Apr 24 21:05:23 <sms_> if I hold u-> multiboot
Apr 24 21:05:39 <sms_> hmm
Apr 24 21:07:07 <sms_> should override multiboot.
Apr 24 21:07:09 <sms_> Or just press 0.
Apr 24 21:07:12 <sms_> how do I press 0
Apr 24 21:07:16 <sms_> shit + 0?
Apr 24 21:07:56 <nox-> maybe
Apr 24 21:08:06 <nox-> well, shift :)
Apr 24 21:08:36 <sms_> lol
Apr 24 21:08:59 <nox-> :)
Apr 24 21:09:28 <sms_> No it just went to multiboot : |
Apr 24 21:09:56 <sms_> this is messe up :(
Apr 24 21:10:12 <nox-> then try the override it mentions
Apr 24 21:10:34 <nox-> the one using the flasher i mean
Apr 24 21:10:36 <sms_> when do I input that
Apr 24 21:10:55 <nox-> on the box with the flasher
Apr 24 21:10:57 <nox-> pc
Apr 24 21:11:27 <sms_> sms@Agile:~/Desktop/flash$ sudo ./flasher-3.5 -k zImage -l --boot="init=/sbin/preinit_orig ubi.mtd=rootfs root=ubi0:rootfs rootfstype=ubifs rootflags=bulk_read,no_chk_data_crc rw console=ttyMTD,log console=tty0 snd-soc-rx51.hp_lim=42 snd-soc-tlv320aic3x.hp_dac_lim=6"
Apr 24 21:11:29 <sms_> flasher v2.5.2 (Oct 21 2009)
Apr 24 21:11:30 <sms_> zImage: No such file or directory
Apr 24 21:12:06 <nox-> hm guess it needs a kernel image...
Apr 24 21:12:56 <DocScrutinizer> what will you do after you booted the system with the flasher-provided kernel of zImage?
Apr 24 21:13:15 <DocScrutinizer> you *could* charge battery this way I guess
Apr 24 21:13:18 <DocScrutinizer> but that's all
Apr 24 21:13:31 <nox-> apparently he removed multiboot then
Apr 24 21:13:46 <nox-> the guy that posted
Apr 24 21:13:50 <sms_> what's going on :(
Apr 24 21:13:55 <DocScrutinizer> flashing still needs NOLO, and NOLO shouldn't start multiboot when entering flashing mode
Apr 24 21:14:22 <nox-> hm why does it for him?
Apr 24 21:14:25 <DocScrutinizer> nox-: the problem probaly isn't multiboot itself
Apr 24 21:14:34 <nox-> hm
Apr 24 21:15:12 <sms_> Nokia screen with usb icon-->
Apr 24 21:15:14 <sms_> sms@Agile:~/Desktop/flash$ sudo ./flasher-3.5 -F ./vanilla.bin -fflasher v2.5.2 (Oct 21 2009)
Apr 24 21:15:15 <sms_> Image 'mmc', size 255947 kB
Apr 24 21:15:17 <sms_> 	Version RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA
Apr 24 21:15:18 <sms_> USB device found found at bus 001, device address 057.
Apr 24 21:15:20 <sms_> Found device RX-51, hardware revision 2204
Apr 24 21:15:22 <sms_> NOLO version 1.4.14
Apr 24 21:15:23 <sms_> Version of 'sw-release': RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2_PR_MR0
Apr 24 21:15:25 <sms_> Booting device into flash mode.
Apr 24 21:15:25 <DocScrutinizer> honestly if you've got problems *flashing* rootfs, then a booted device won't help you much
Apr 24 21:15:27 <sms_> Suitable USB device not found, waiting.
Apr 24 21:15:28 <sms_> ------>multiboot screen on nokia
Apr 24 21:16:15 <nox-> or maybe it still thinks the voltage is too low?
Apr 24 21:16:22 <DocScrutinizer> mhm, yeah, we had that before. Dunno what's been the fix back when
Apr 24 21:16:32 <DocScrutinizer> quite possibly, yes
Apr 24 21:16:52 <nox-> so he could boot a kernel to charge at least?
Apr 24 21:17:00 <DocScrutinizer> also don't forget to occasionally boot your *PC*
Apr 24 21:17:05 <nox-> heh
Apr 24 21:17:18 <DocScrutinizer> and make sure there's no phonet, and cdc_* modules loaded
Apr 24 21:17:35 <nox-> ah yeah
Apr 24 21:17:57 <sms_> uhh, me?
Apr 24 21:18:05 <DocScrutinizer> sure
Apr 24 21:18:15 <DocScrutinizer> ubuntu I guess
Apr 24 21:18:20 <sms_> yes
Apr 24 21:18:24 <DocScrutinizer> :nod:
Apr 24 21:18:34 <DocScrutinizer> 64bit even?
Apr 24 21:18:37 <sms_> yeah
Apr 24 21:18:42 <DocScrutinizer> :nod:
Apr 24 21:19:02 <DocScrutinizer> feels like 'been there' seen that'
Apr 24 21:19:23 <sms_> It's a great feeling I'm sure
Apr 24 21:19:39 <DocScrutinizer> not really
Apr 24 21:20:00 <DocScrutinizer> as I'm missing a proper keyword to search for that even in the chanlog
Apr 24 21:20:14 <DocScrutinizer> evenT*
Apr 24 21:20:16 <sms_> So should I try this on a 32bit mint linux?
Apr 24 21:20:23 <DocScrutinizer> yeah!
Apr 24 21:20:32 <sms_> Well I'll go and do just that
Apr 24 21:22:36 <DocScrutinizer> aaah, now I at least have a few topics to search: this guy used a script that did both flashes for him, COMBINED _and_ VANILLA
Apr 24 21:23:04 <DocScrutinizer> can't recall if he got it fixed at all
Apr 24 21:23:23 <sms_> well it didn't go to multiboot
Apr 24 21:23:28 <sms_> just a nokia loop
Apr 24 21:24:10 <DocScrutinizer> damn, what's up with infobot
Apr 24 21:27:52 * GeneralAntilles slow claps for Nokia. http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=991044#post991044
Apr 24 21:31:33 <ruskie> wth is Sygic Aura?
Apr 24 21:33:01 <sms_> Hell whatever I'll just make my friend this poopoo to nokia
Apr 24 21:33:43 <sms_> Thank you for your time none the less
Apr 24 21:33:46 <sms_> :)
Apr 25 01:26:02 <rtyler> I kind of wish I could convert this crappy Android tablet (Flytouch 2) to a Maemo tablet like an oversized n900 :D
Apr 25 01:54:44 <pupnik_> aerial war drones now to be deployed over US cities.  hah hah hah
Apr 25 01:54:53 <pupnik_> rtyler: hows the flytouch - what cpu
Apr 25 01:56:14 <rtyler> CPU: Infotmic X210 ARM11 @ 800MH
Apr 25 01:56:16 <rtyler> AFAIK
Apr 25 01:59:20 <rtyler> pupnik_: unfortunately, if there's not a pre-made image for the device, I don't think I have the time or ability to hack on it :(
Apr 25 02:17:41 <pupnik_> rtyler: meh .. always the case, you're the only guy in the world, it seems like
Apr 25 02:17:59 <pupnik_> hildon-desktop taking 6-7% cpu again
Apr 25 02:18:22 <pupnik_> idle current up 40mA
Apr 25 02:18:26 <rtyler> heh
Apr 25 02:18:55 <rtyler> pupnik_: unfortunately, I had an n900 before an Android device, and I prefer the Maemo experience to this Android garbage
Apr 25 02:19:01 <pupnik_> me too
Apr 25 02:19:15 <pupnik_> got an android tablet - it gets used to play movies and mp3s
Apr 25 02:19:27 <pupnik_> fun factor almost zero for an old linux guy
Apr 25 02:19:42 <pupnik_> oh angry birds was brilliant for a few evenings
Apr 25 02:19:49 <rtyler> a few :P
Apr 25 02:20:16 <pupnik_> so this flybook has keyboard and everything?
Apr 25 02:20:46 <rtyler> no, it's 10.1 inch Android tablet
Apr 25 02:20:53 <rtyler> chinese iPad knockoff running Android 2.1
Apr 25 02:21:05 <rtyler> it'd be *perfect* for Maemo, or MeeGo if that project ever ships anything -_-
Apr 25 02:21:45 <pupnik_> too bad you didn't get an archos 10.0... omap3640 and angstrom linux (with some meego attempts)
Apr 25 02:21:57 <rtyler> that'll run maemo?
Apr 25 02:22:03 <pupnik_> no
Apr 25 02:22:20 <pupnik_> maemo is closed and trademarked enough so that nothing else will
Apr 25 02:22:28 <rtyler> damnit
Apr 25 02:23:03 <pupnik_> but the awesome smoku has gotten hildon to build for other OS's
Apr 25 02:23:22 <pupnik_> so it's not impossible to run some maemo apps elsewhere
Apr 25 02:51:55 <pupnik_> reducing battery use on a sdl game isn't easy
Apr 25 02:53:54 <DocScrutinizer> mhmm
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