**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Apr 30 02:59:58 2011 Apr 30 03:48:38 hi all Apr 30 03:48:47 dooes anyone actually use this Apr 30 03:48:54 tis my first time Apr 30 03:49:40 Ok, fine Apr 30 03:49:44 im leaving Apr 30 03:49:52 good day to you sir Apr 30 03:52:03 weenie Apr 30 05:32:09 sup Apr 30 06:01:02 hi all Apr 30 06:01:22 can't seem to get virtual keyboard working Apr 30 06:01:32 its turned on in settings Apr 30 06:01:52 on/off... multiple reboots etc.. Apr 30 06:02:12 nokia n900 Apr 30 06:03:20 What you have done befor it became broken? Apr 30 06:03:31 to my knowledge Apr 30 06:03:35 it has never worked Apr 30 06:04:11 just started trying to get it to work several hours ago Apr 30 06:04:16 yes several hours Apr 30 06:05:16 hmm... what is responsible for saving message history on n900? i think i purged something that did that Apr 30 06:06:17 the shift+fn+cntrl brings up the special characters keyboard np Apr 30 06:06:43 made sure physical keyboard was closed Apr 30 06:06:51 im just at a loss Apr 30 06:07:03 anyone know how to start it up manually? Apr 30 06:07:06 "Chemicals are bad. Despite their omnipresence from the beginning of time, they are no longer safe. Even real researchers are starting to notice the possible voluntary stunting of science education that is occurring in the name of overreaching safety." Apr 30 06:07:40 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8kqjvvwFv0 - nya? Apr 30 06:07:51 slonopotamus: rtcom-el or smth like that Apr 30 06:10:22 frals: so the point is that everything works, however _new_ messages are not saved Apr 30 06:10:56 messed up permissions on ~/.rtcom-el maybe? Apr 30 06:11:24 theres a folder in ~ where its suppose to be saved anyway Apr 30 06:12:01 no, didn't touch permissions Apr 30 06:12:25 though apt-get purged some stuff that wasn't dependency of mr-fremantle-generic Apr 30 06:15:17 meh. Apr 30 06:17:30 hmm... call history is also not recorded (and is empty) Apr 30 06:19:38 its all supposed to go to eventlogger database Apr 30 06:20:34 okay. what app is responsible for that? Apr 30 06:21:00 alternatively: is there unmerge log? Apr 30 06:21:44 i *think* its rtcom-eventlogger or rtcom-el or smth similar Apr 30 06:22:58 oh Apr 30 06:23:08 i don't have nokia messaging anywhere Apr 30 07:52:25 wow nice http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/OpenGLES_Texture_Streaming_-_bc-cat_User_Guide Apr 30 07:53:32 how can I make a program run when ever the calender db changes? Apr 30 07:54:22 one way is to use dbus-scripts and listen in to db_calender_change Apr 30 07:54:51 another is to generate a file that will use inotify to run the command Apr 30 07:54:57 any better way? Apr 30 08:47:26 Morning, all Apr 30 08:51:23 Morning. Apr 30 09:07:26 Can I somehow get the data partition to be ext4 or something simliar? fat32 just sucks. Apr 30 09:07:53 phryk: you can shrink the MyDocs partition Apr 30 09:08:07 but then you won't be able to save on your home partition from maemo apps Apr 30 09:09:21 sucks Apr 30 09:09:24 Isn't it possible to change the mount-string? Then, changing the MyDocs partition wouldn't matter; it'd still mount and programs would be none the wiser Apr 30 09:09:50 robbiethe1st: mount-string? Apr 30 09:09:58 phryk: What I did was to shrink mydocs to 5G, and then make a new data partition in ext3 Apr 30 09:10:07 you mean the fstab entry? Apr 30 09:10:39 phryk: it would be nice if it was, but I doubt it's actually in there Apr 30 09:10:43 i wish nokia dropped the pretenses and just admitted that the n900 was a phone for nerds, and just made it so Apr 30 09:10:46 SpeedEvil: But the mydocs partition is the only one that shows up when using the device as usb mass storage, right? Apr 30 09:11:16 >>but then you won't be able to save on your home partition from maemo apps Apr 30 09:11:16 Ehm... Symlinks? Apr 30 09:11:17 yes Apr 30 09:11:22 robbiethe1st: it is in there, but it seems to change back after reboot, so it's no use changing anything there as far as i can tel… Apr 30 09:11:26 tell* Apr 30 09:11:30 Yea. Apr 30 09:11:36 keks-n: on fat32? Apr 30 09:11:43 I've heard that file's generated on boot Apr 30 09:11:46 hm Apr 30 09:11:47 phryk: scp/rsync work fine for me Apr 30 09:11:52 OK, mount --bind Apr 30 09:12:17 hrmpf Apr 30 09:12:30 What if i mounted the ext partition on a mountpoint lying in the MyDocs dir? Apr 30 09:12:30 still, i want a better file picker Apr 30 09:12:41 Also, it should be possible to expose multiple partitions to the USB-mass-storage mode Apr 30 09:17:27 i want a serial console through usb Apr 30 09:17:30 like the sheevaplug does Apr 30 09:17:53 kerio: Possible Apr 30 09:17:57 easily Apr 30 09:18:00 um Apr 30 09:18:02 i mean, during boot Apr 30 09:18:30 a bootloader console Apr 30 09:18:32 Well, it's certainly possible through Backupmenu, might be possible to add that command to a boot file Apr 30 09:19:18 the sheevaplug is made so that you can fuck up your bootloader and still recover it Apr 30 09:30:25 Just fucking awesome. MyDocs partition is fucked up. Being mounted read-only 'until errors are fixed'. fsck.vfat can't fix the problems. And since it's ro I can't manually delete the fault files. Fuck yeah, this is so awesome -.- Apr 30 09:32:12 connect to computer, fsck.vfat, ???, profit Apr 30 09:32:26 That is what I just DID. Apr 30 09:32:39 And like I said fsck.vfat can't fix the problems. Apr 30 09:32:50 connect to computer, copy all files off, mkfs.vfat, copy back, ... , profit Apr 30 09:33:07 you mean "???" Apr 30 09:33:14 aren't there application files on that thing? Apr 30 09:33:22 phryk: so? Apr 30 09:33:33 it's umounted from maemo when it's connected Apr 30 09:33:46 ah Apr 30 09:33:55 meh Apr 30 09:34:07 i'll just kill the current fs completely… got nothing of value on it Apr 30 09:34:17 worst case I gotta flash again… Apr 30 09:35:35 don't do that Apr 30 09:35:35 just flash Apr 30 09:35:41 maemo *requires* a working vfat emmc Apr 30 09:35:47 mhkay Apr 30 09:35:50 *partition on the emmc Apr 30 09:36:00 so, just mkfs.vfat? Apr 30 09:36:02 flash 1.3, and then cssu Apr 30 09:36:15 ill try calling fsck.vfat with slightly more aggressive options first Apr 30 09:38:03 hey it worked :D Apr 30 09:57:02 Efforts to increase the degree in which analysis references other events resulted in an incident whereby [DATA EXPUNGED], resulting in 3 researchers being euthanized. Apr 30 10:09:01 can anyone pls think if I can do this better? Apr 30 10:09:03 http://dpaste.com/537450/ Apr 30 10:12:31 I am trying to hook the calender db change via inotify Apr 30 10:15:34 ~seen shapeshifter Apr 30 10:15:41 shapeshifter is currently on #maemo (1d 21h 26m 6s). Has said a total of 17 messages. Is idling for 1d 19h 16m 11s, last said: 'cityLights: or you add specific names/ids to the events you create on the queue and then parse it but it seems bothersome'. Apr 30 10:18:56 well I hope some python coder will show up soon Apr 30 10:59:56 Hi Apr 30 11:00:10 I have a problem with dput Apr 30 11:00:42 It says "Permission denied" Apr 30 11:00:57 Looks like that something is wrong with SSH-keys Apr 30 11:01:09 yeah Apr 30 11:01:15 you have to wait for keys to update Apr 30 11:01:22 and you can only use rsa keys Apr 30 11:01:27 dss keys don't work Apr 30 11:01:53 I used this command to generate it: ssh-keygen -t rsa -b 2048 Apr 30 11:03:16 Is it ok? Apr 30 11:03:42 Oh Apr 30 11:03:49 I really had to wait Apr 30 11:03:55 It works now Apr 30 11:03:58 Thanks Apr 30 11:06:57 anyone care to help me with this inotify issue? Apr 30 11:07:11 what is the issue? Apr 30 11:07:17 I seek to call my script when the calender is changed Apr 30 11:08:01 so I create a bash script that will hook on inotify and seek the calender file modify then issue my script Apr 30 11:08:17 this way my own python script quits Apr 30 11:08:25 and only the bash script is alive Apr 30 11:08:58 then you do inotifywait -e modify filename Apr 30 11:09:01 or should I do in any other way Apr 30 11:09:07 right Apr 30 11:09:35 in loop Apr 30 11:09:44 is this approch better then using dbus-scripts and filter th calender change msg? Apr 30 11:10:00 well, you said inotify Apr 30 11:11:53 my aim is to hook calender db changes Apr 30 11:18:12 Try to watch for files' access time Apr 30 11:20:15 Oh, you already do Apr 30 11:23:03 But why you aren't using inotify_add_watch directly? Apr 30 11:26:50 how? Apr 30 11:27:14 remeber that I intend to quit my own script and leave this script running Apr 30 11:27:26 or should I leave my own script running? Apr 30 11:30:30 >>How? Apr 30 11:30:30 Is there no any analog of P/Invoke in python? Apr 30 11:30:48 >>or should I leave my own script running? Apr 30 11:30:48 Why not? Apr 30 11:31:17 It consumes too much RAM? Apr 30 11:31:58 If it's a problem, just write a simple C program Apr 30 11:32:31 It will use even less ram than bash or busybox Apr 30 11:33:48 ok Apr 30 11:43:16 I need help setting the volume using python and dbus Apr 30 11:45:13 I do this Apr 30 11:45:15 http://dpaste.com/537463/ Apr 30 12:35:22 os.system sucks, use dbus-glib or something Apr 30 13:13:08 os.system is fine if there's an existing cmdline binary doing exactly what you need, the binary is powerful and thus large in memsize, and the function you need in your program is only occasional and temporary. Then os.system will reduce both your development and testing load, and your program's avrg memory footprint Apr 30 13:15:44 you do NOT want to follow this os.system scheme if the function you need has to be very fast and realtime in a sense of t_response<100ms (for a ballpark), or you are dealing with system critical stuff that must not fail ever Apr 30 13:20:41 i prefer to use subprocess module Apr 30 13:21:12 all other modules that execute external binaries/commands are depreciated Apr 30 13:21:21 so move with the times, man Apr 30 13:21:52 typical candidates you do NOT want to call via os.system: echo (too simple and small), hdparm to park disk heads on free fall (too slow), shutdown (mustn't fail due to e.g low_on_ram condition) -- Typical candidates for a call via os.system: sed, grep, find... Apr 30 13:23:01 mc_teo: well, I'm without any preferences regarding which construct you use in your program to call external binaries Apr 30 14:01:12 er... what? Apr 30 14:01:12 no Apr 30 14:01:17 you don't use os.system, period Apr 30 14:01:21 use subprocess.Popen Apr 30 14:01:31 or one of the subprocess helper functions Apr 30 14:01:32 like check_output Apr 30 14:01:40 i prefer to use subprocess module Apr 30 14:01:46 all other modules that execute external binaries/commands are depreciated Apr 30 14:01:50 so move with the times, man Apr 30 14:02:56 no stick in the mud! Apr 30 14:03:46 subprocess.call('command', shell=True) works also Apr 30 14:03:54 Python people and their arguments. Apr 30 14:04:10 * RST38h sighs and goes outside Apr 30 14:05:18 mc_teo: ew, no Apr 30 14:05:26 the point of subprocess is that you don't need to shell out Apr 30 14:05:46 anything a shell can do, you can do with os.walk, glob and/or shutil Apr 30 14:06:16 lol, subprocess is just a wrapper for all the other modules Apr 30 14:06:21 like os.system Apr 30 14:06:25 and popen Apr 30 14:06:31 and commands module Apr 30 14:06:34 subprocess uses the various os.popen* Apr 30 14:06:42 but in a sensible way Apr 30 14:07:18 how would you recommend using "dbus-send" then? Apr 30 14:07:25 no, wait, on unix it uses os.execvp() Apr 30 14:07:38 huh... dbus-python? Apr 30 14:07:59 i tried that Apr 30 14:08:13 didnt work with mafs renderer Apr 30 14:11:22 mafw* Apr 30 14:18:00 How's the Synaptics multitouch (2-, 3-, or 4-finger) support on Linux these days? Apr 30 14:36:15 what's the bot's name in this channel? Apr 30 14:36:39 infobot Apr 30 14:36:48 !male Apr 30 14:36:56 infobot is the female one, right? Apr 30 14:36:58 ~male Apr 30 14:37:03 !female Apr 30 14:37:14 It's so hard to keep track of factoidlet-thingy's in various channels. Apr 30 14:37:16 ~female Apr 30 14:37:16 ibot female BluefoxIcy: i haven't a clue Apr 30 14:37:19 feeling rather sexy today/tonight? Apr 30 14:37:39 Strange. Ok, commercial break over, back to our main program. Apr 30 15:14:48 ~chase kwtm Apr 30 15:14:49 * infobot chases kwtm Apr 30 15:14:53 wtf Apr 30 15:15:02 ~attack kwtm Apr 30 15:15:03 * infobot grabs a pen, screams like she's possessed, and begins chasing kwtm Apr 30 15:15:07 aah Apr 30 15:15:28 kwtm: factoids are global usually Apr 30 15:15:37 afternoon chaps Apr 30 15:15:48 (except on a very few channels where I asker Tim to set them local) Apr 30 15:16:29 Hey, lardman. Apr 30 15:16:36 hi GAN900 :) Apr 30 15:16:46 ~attack after Michael Jackson for his autograph Apr 30 15:16:47 * infobot grabs a pen, screams like she's possessed, and begins chasing after Michael Jackson for his autograph Apr 30 15:19:53 funny enough factoid male doesn't exist at all Apr 30 15:21:30 maybe she's not interested in males ;) Apr 30 15:28:54 mc_teo: thnaks Apr 30 15:29:06 hi lardman Apr 30 15:29:12 cityLights: for what? Apr 30 15:29:59 my question is this: I want my program to be run every time the calender db is changed Apr 30 15:30:45 I know of two options: 1. dbus-scripts and look for the calenderdb change msg Apr 30 15:30:49 like instantly? Apr 30 15:30:58 yes Apr 30 15:31:20 then use dbus scripts Apr 30 15:31:57 2. create a bash script from my program and run it. this bash script will run inotify to watch a modify in the calender file and then run my program Apr 30 15:32:24 3. listen to the dbus msg from my program and leave it running Apr 30 15:32:26 1 Apr 30 15:32:31 just do it Apr 30 15:32:38 1 and 2 offer the option of quitting my program Apr 30 15:32:52 my program is very light Apr 30 15:33:10 so waht is the benefit of 1 vs 3? Apr 30 15:33:26 1 remains after restart Apr 30 15:33:37 3 has to be configured to do so Apr 30 15:33:46 to be ran each boot Apr 30 15:33:59 dbus-scripts take care of all that Apr 30 15:34:20 dbus-scripts were made for that kind of thing Apr 30 15:34:49 and means using existing framework Apr 30 15:35:04 which is like +3 to solution 1 Apr 30 15:35:10 so i need more? Apr 30 15:35:22 do* Apr 30 15:36:37 but if I want to remove this program , I need to remove the dbus-scripts line and restart the deamon Apr 30 15:36:37 right? Apr 30 15:36:43 if there's a convenient dbus signal, then that's of course the best solution to use dbus-scripting Apr 30 15:37:16 remove as in uninstall? Apr 30 15:37:21 ok DocScrutinizer Apr 30 15:37:27 cityLights: just add it to postrm Apr 30 15:37:38 postrm? Apr 30 15:37:41 and thats like two commands, so no biggy Apr 30 15:37:51 I'm not sure you need to restart dbus-scripting daemon Apr 30 15:37:52 right Apr 30 15:38:27 .deb postrm script Apr 30 15:38:28 cityLights: debian install archives have a postrm, which is like a shell script, ran after uninstallation Apr 30 15:38:39 mc_teo: can you help me this look better: http://dpaste.com/537463/http://dpaste.com/537463/ Apr 30 15:38:45 to clean up any other resources Apr 30 15:38:56 ok, now i remember Apr 30 15:39:24 in fact any one here that uses python and dbus may help with this Apr 30 15:39:26 http://dpaste.com/537463/ Apr 30 15:39:37 I am sure this could look better Apr 30 15:40:29 second question: I used mdbus2 to see this msg Apr 30 15:40:33 [SIGNAL] com.nokia.calendar.dbChange /com/nokia/calendar :1.119 Apr 30 15:40:43 ( "CALENDAR-UI:1:EVENT:DELETED:1:447,", "CALENDAR-UI" ) Apr 30 15:40:53 how to catch this signal Apr 30 15:40:57 ? Apr 30 15:42:55 i cant get python-dbus to work at all Apr 30 15:44:03 use dbus-monitor, it has a printout somewhat more in line with what you need for dbus-scripting Apr 30 15:44:36 dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name com.nokia.mafw.renderer.Mafw-Gst-Renderer-Plugin.gstrenderer was not provided by any .service files Apr 30 15:49:45 cityLights: Apr 30 15:49:47 signal sender=:1.1853 -> dest=(null destination) serial=17 path=/com/nokia/calendar; interface=com.nokia.calendar; member=dbChange Apr 30 15:49:49 string "CALENDAR-UI:1:EVENT:ADDED:1" Apr 30 15:49:50 string "CALENDAR-UI" Apr 30 15:50:25 you want to test in dbus-scripting for path=/com/nokia/calendar; interface=com.nokia.calendar; member=dbChange Apr 30 15:50:36 fixed: http://dpaste.com/537505/ Apr 30 15:50:59 thank you very much Apr 30 15:52:16 import mafw was missing Apr 30 16:48:10 Yo. Apr 30 16:48:27 Haven't been in here in a while :O) Apr 30 16:49:01 :O *gasp* Apr 30 16:49:10 ? Apr 30 16:49:35 *shrugs* Apr 30 16:50:44 I has a question (because as usual, something isn't working properly). What would cause a recently rebooted N900 to stutter? No issues beforehand, although the reason for the reboot was that the LED was displaying weirdly while charging. Apr 30 16:52:35 * CableTwitch pokes DocScrutinizer Apr 30 16:53:40 ummm Apr 30 16:53:57 hi CableTwitch Apr 30 16:54:09 solar flares? Apr 30 16:54:39 Hey Doc. Might you have any ideas? Apr 30 16:54:57 tracker? Apr 30 16:55:00 stuttering is less of a concern to me than the remark about LED and charging Apr 30 16:55:01 apt-worker? Apr 30 16:55:26 Don't tell me my hardware is on the fritz again. Apr 30 16:55:35 This makes me doubleplus unhappy. Apr 30 16:56:01 Swapping between running apps is dog-slow, with much lag. Apr 30 16:56:26 well, the LED patterns are programmed once (on starting the pattern) to LP5523 chip, then should run as they're meant to do Apr 30 16:56:36 LED works fine now. What WAS happening was the yellow and red were not displaying during the orange chanrging pulsing. Apr 30 16:57:03 Green was displaying weakly as a pulse, which I presume is part of the colour mix. Apr 30 16:57:16 nope, not really Apr 30 16:57:45 Hmm. Apr 30 16:58:23 I recently installed, then uninstalled that advanced clock app. It's gone bandy since uninstall. Apr 30 16:58:53 oops, of course yellow == green+red Apr 30 16:59:33 Dun, yes. Blue wasn't on (obviously), red was not showing, green was. Apr 30 16:59:39 Dun = Duh Apr 30 17:00:08 I have noticed a tiny flicker of red when I disconnect the charger though... Apr 30 17:00:23 hmm, normal Apr 30 17:00:42 I'd think your system is bitrotten somehow Apr 30 17:01:17 How would I find out what is causing the slowdown? Apr 30 17:01:23 stutter on audio also can be caused by heavy load Apr 30 17:01:33 as is slowdown Apr 30 17:01:36 use htop Apr 30 17:01:39 nah, it also happens here Apr 30 17:01:42 (red flicker) Apr 30 17:01:48 Haven't tried audio, I'll do that when I'm not on the train. Apr 30 17:01:53 Hey Mo Apr 30 17:02:28 * MohammadAG is interested in knowing why the battery empty sound always stutters Apr 30 17:02:51 blame pukeaudio Apr 30 17:02:52 Task switching is where it's really evident, but it also happens when changing desktop. Apr 30 17:02:52 Mohammad: not here Apr 30 17:03:03 but yes it does happen nowand then Apr 30 17:03:58 CableTwitch: use htop, find out about system load and unusually active processes Apr 30 17:04:12 Sometimes it requires a double press to change tasks, when the small windows are displayed. Apr 30 17:04:51 Also, remember, I'm useless when it comes to the actual OS on this thing (Which is why I ask the smart people :O) Apr 30 17:05:12 open browser windows are a major suspect, esp when flash or js is on the page displayed Apr 30 17:05:27 Lemme kill the browser then. Apr 30 17:06:11 Nope, still doing it. Sometimes stutter when bringing the window to focus as well. Only xchat running as an active app. Apr 30 17:06:11 mhm, a killall browserd sometimes does wonders Apr 30 17:06:28 use htop Apr 30 17:07:48 -sh: htop: not found Apr 30 17:09:08 Now, I'll be honest. I have no idea what I'm doing with the command line, so any commands you throw at me... well, please may I have the syntax as well? :O) Apr 30 17:09:31 apt-get install htop Apr 30 17:10:01 DocScrutinizer: can you spare a min helpping me to figure out how to write the dbus-scripts line? Apr 30 17:10:07 oh, and of course you want to do 'root' before Apr 30 17:10:39 cityLights: not really as I'm in a hurry Apr 30 17:11:15 anyonw else ? Apr 30 17:11:25 I will try you later dude Apr 30 17:12:44 htop shows just under 15% CPU utilised, About half the RAM. Apr 30 17:15:07 cityLights: maybe this helps: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=900108&highlight=playswoosh#post900108 Apr 30 17:15:59 thnaks you are a sweetheart Apr 30 17:20:55 I dunno. How many processes regarding browserd should there normally be with no browser open? Apr 30 17:22:05 bye for now, time to ride Apr 30 17:23:07 CableTwitch: that's weird (15%, 50%mem) browserd will linger around with several instances Apr 30 17:23:39 Should I try and kill em, or are they required? Apr 30 17:24:22 they'll restart if you killall them, they're needed for some things to startup quickly Apr 30 17:24:33 Hmm. Apr 30 17:24:50 Maybe I could try another reboot. Apr 30 17:25:37 bbl Apr 30 17:26:37 5 for RTComMessagingServer, another 5 for browserui, and 2 are just browserd Apr 30 17:27:13 might be threads Apr 30 17:27:41 Hmm. Only xchat and xterm running. Apr 30 17:29:23 F2 - display options - [x] Display threads in a different color Apr 30 17:30:16 And how does one emulate the F keys? I've never needed that until now. Apr 30 17:30:46 ESC-2 Apr 30 17:31:07 Ok Apr 30 17:33:00 Done. What am I looking for? Apr 30 17:33:47 might show what those multiple instances of browserd are really Apr 30 17:33:51 o/ Apr 30 17:33:53 bbl Apr 30 17:34:31 Cheers for the assistance, Doc :O) Apr 30 17:34:38 Catch you later. Apr 30 17:37:55 Well bugger, I think I know what might have caused it. Apr 30 17:38:19 <-- This idiot playing with the lock slider during the previous boot sequence. Apr 30 17:38:33 Rebooted just now, and presto! All good. Apr 30 17:39:13 Mental note:- Do NOT piss about with the phone when booting. Bad things happen, and make Cable cry. Apr 30 17:41:04 crap, Ubuntu 11.04 broke scratchbox Apr 30 17:41:35 no wonder Apr 30 17:41:59 Me, or Mo? Apr 30 17:43:32 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of scratchbox-core:i386: Apr 30 17:43:32 scratchbox-core:i386 depends on python. Apr 30 17:43:46 python is already the newest version. Apr 30 17:55:50 hmm... why would microb not be loading pages? Apr 30 17:58:41 What connection, GPRS or wifi? Apr 30 17:58:49 achipa, any chance to have libqtm12 beta in the repos? Apr 30 17:59:27 Is the creator of the wifi selector app in here? Apr 30 18:07:04 CableTwitch: wifi Apr 30 18:07:29 the cylon under the URLbar just keeps going back and forth Apr 30 18:07:40 Odd. I sometimes get issues via GPRS Apr 30 18:08:01 other webbrowsers work Apr 30 18:08:06 well, they load pages Apr 30 18:08:18 but have their other annoyances Apr 30 18:08:38 and I ought to be wandering off Apr 30 18:59:07 MohammadAG: in devel or in extras proper ? Apr 30 18:59:24 bye bye 810 im a owner of a new playbook Apr 30 19:00:13 you were a true andd faathfull freind Apr 30 19:25:56 achipa, devel Apr 30 19:26:09 achipa, there's tp1 in there, but that's old and has outdated APIs Apr 30 19:27:20 good evening Apr 30 19:27:26 MohammadAG: there is a single reason the beta is not in extras-devel: it doesn't have a tag on gitorious Apr 30 19:27:58 MohammadAG: if a tag doesn't materialize by the time I get back to Finland, I'll probably just make a git pull and publish whatever is there Apr 30 19:28:12 MohammadAG: what's up with that weird bug? Apr 30 19:31:58 achipa, I see... Apr 30 19:32:13 Venemo_N900, which one? Apr 30 19:32:29 raster's borked in Qt 4.7.2, at least on device Apr 30 19:32:32 MohammadAG: text selection in Qt Apr 30 19:33:00 graphics system was borked by someone Apr 30 19:33:12 MohammadAG: btw, raster works on my Fedora, so probably it's a Maemo-only bug Apr 30 19:33:25 yes, I know Apr 30 19:33:42 mhm Apr 30 19:52:14 ~seen raster Apr 30 19:52:24 raster was last seen on IRC in channel #meego, 8d 10h 53m 40s ago, saying: 'DocScrutinizer: docz!'. Apr 30 19:53:04 mhm, he's working on fedora now? Apr 30 19:55:04 isn't he still at samsung? Apr 30 19:55:20 [2011-04-30 21:32:26] MohammadAG: btw, raster works on my Fedora, so probably it's a Maemo-only bug Apr 30 19:55:36 ;-) Apr 30 19:57:19 I'd guess he's still in .kr and at Samsung Apr 30 20:28:25