**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Sep 07 02:59:57 2011 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Sep 07 04:07:22 2011 Sep 07 05:25:17 just got new cssu. camera-ui still always says there's no free space :/ Sep 07 05:38:41 SpeedEvil: I'm simply trying to use this.. http://api.maps.ovi.com/devguide/overview.html Sep 07 05:38:55 should I hop into the other channel for that? Sep 07 06:06:52 which repo liblocation-dev and libprofile-dev come from? Sep 07 06:09:52 found Sep 07 08:17:30 uhm...many updates today, new SSU release coming? Sep 07 08:19:57 it already came Sep 07 08:20:08 and no, no new official SSU Sep 07 08:20:31 hi there Sep 07 08:20:39 psycho_oreos: hi, I mean Community SSU Sep 07 08:20:51 yes its already out Sep 07 08:21:06 i have a problem and i hope you yan help. My N900 hangs in a bootloop und doesend boot to flashmode by pressing u at startup Sep 07 08:21:08 psycho_oreos: no changelog available yet? Sep 07 08:21:39 my camera app has died - it givees me "operation failed" when I either click the icon or open the slider Sep 07 08:21:56 any clues? Sep 07 08:22:16 the official app, or the app that is part of the cssu? Sep 07 08:22:28 tried a reboot already? :) Sep 07 08:22:33 ThreeM, take the battery out and have the device not plugged into USB for ~30 seconds plug in USB cable, hold the U key as you re-insert the battery Sep 07 08:22:41 andre__: the official app Sep 07 08:22:47 ok i will try Sep 07 08:23:04 andre__: rebooted many times ;) Sep 07 08:24:12 andre__: only change I can think of was installng kernel for power users toi enable usb modem (which did not work) Sep 07 08:24:32 that reminds me of a bug report. give me a minute. Sep 07 08:24:39 * andre__ starts browser Sep 07 08:24:56 psycho_oreos nothing happen Sep 07 08:25:04 I think you have to update fcam when installing power kernel or something like that Sep 07 08:25:25 nokia screen with usb symbol, but flasher still no regognize the phone as suitable usb device Sep 07 08:26:34 The curiosity. Suddenly the lens cover slider no longer starts/stops the camera app, and the focus keypress now always starts it (as if it thought the cover was permanently open), but that "flashlight" app can read the lens cover state just fine, since it appears/disappears in the status menu if I wiggle the cover. Sep 07 08:26:43 ThreeM, and on the N900 its still showing USB symbol on? Sep 07 08:26:52 * jpinx would happily rollback the power kernel install if that is possible Sep 07 08:27:04 psycho_oreos yea Sep 07 08:27:06 yes Sep 07 08:27:59 ThreeM, maybe your computer cannot see the USB device, probably because you're trying to flash it under VM or some other weird reason Sep 07 08:28:34 my computer see the N900 when i put the usb cable Sep 07 08:28:52 "USB device found found at bus 002, device address 018." Sep 07 08:29:09 but seems flasher dont put the N900 in flashmode Sep 07 08:29:31 flasher does not put N900 into flashmode, only N900 is capable of putting itself into flashmode Sep 07 08:30:08 which host OS are you running? Sep 07 08:30:14 linux Sep 07 08:30:30 hmm maybe its an issue with bootmenu 1.10 ? Sep 07 08:30:48 and what does lsusb with the USB cable plugged in?　(should only be one relevant line) Sep 07 08:31:17 if its an issue with bootmenu, you're pretty much screwed with a stuffed bootloader :) Sep 07 08:31:23 how can I download every repository in the Community SSU project on gitorious? Sep 07 08:31:26 otherwise I technically doubt it Sep 07 08:31:32 Bus 002 Device 029: ID 0421:0105 Nokia Mobile Phones Nokia Firmware Upgrade Mode Sep 07 08:31:57 yeah so that's should be the correct mode for flashing maybe you have an old flasher tool? Sep 07 08:32:16 flasher 3.5 Sep 07 08:32:19 is the linux OS　32bit or 64bit? Sep 07 08:32:35 64bit, but flashing was never an issue until now :) Sep 07 08:33:10 afaik there was a thing for 64bit that you have to install/use to make it work Sep 07 08:33:32 the other possible thing is a faulty USB cable and/or USB　ports Sep 07 08:33:34 is the flasher 2.5.2 the latest version? Sep 07 08:33:49 it is the latest for non-ARM platform Sep 07 08:34:49 Morning, all Sep 07 08:34:56 hi Sep 07 08:35:30 jpinx, https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11648 Sep 07 08:35:31 04Bug 11648: [kernel-power] Camera application crashes immediately after the start (after opening the cover) Sep 07 08:35:58 today the FCamera crashed my System... Sep 07 08:36:00 lol Sep 07 08:36:22 how a camera appliaction lead to whole system segement? Sep 07 08:36:30 andre__: many thanks Sep 07 08:36:39 I think they use their own kernel modules Sep 07 08:37:01 jiero: yes I might go back to standard kernel Sep 07 08:37:31 jpinx: then you will lose the fun to overclock Sep 07 08:38:01 there's plenty of other things you'll lose apart from simply being able to overclock Sep 07 08:38:33 some things to lose, in others may gain Sep 07 08:38:38 psy6es, like overuse of the battery ;) Sep 07 08:39:03 psycho_oreos: /\ /\ Sep 07 08:39:34 my battery doesn't last half a day with the powerkernel Sep 07 08:41:04 jpinx, it depends on how you use it as well with power kernel :) you can't just for example overclock on powerkernel, sees that it chews away batteries like hell and declare powerkernel gives poor battery usability Sep 07 08:41:13 or running things like wifi-hotspot Sep 07 08:42:32 I have had my device running on pk48 with R&D　mode (even though its highly not recommended to leave it in R&D mode) lasting about a days usage with bluetooth for more or less 8 hours plus a few moments of internet surfing Sep 07 08:42:46 and maybe tinkering the device in my spare time Sep 07 08:44:02 is the deviced bricked when bootloader is fucked? Sep 07 08:44:19 psycho_oreos: I wanted wifihotpsot and usb modem, but neither worked, so I'll probably rollback Sep 07 08:45:06 if NOLO is fucked, yeah you can pretty much say bye bye to the device Sep 07 08:45:13 no Sep 07 08:45:20 psycho_oreos: you can coldflash Sep 07 08:45:21 USB modem? Um... it'll do that by default. Sep 07 08:45:30 If you mean using it to tether... Sep 07 08:45:31 psycho_oreos: without nolo Sep 07 08:45:35 jpinx, some users were reporting issues with wifi hotspot and pk48 Sep 07 08:45:39 psycho_oreos: you can have empty nand Sep 07 08:45:40 jacekowski, o.O Sep 07 08:45:44 psycho_oreos: and recover with just usb cable Sep 07 08:45:55 damn, all i have done is to restore a backup with bootmenu Sep 07 08:46:06 after that the device was not booting :( Sep 07 08:46:14 you meant backupmenu Sep 07 08:46:18 Because you didn't do it right. That won't brick anything. Sep 07 08:46:26 and I really doubt that would have been the cause but then again Sep 07 08:46:29 More than likely, your backup didn't have the same kernel active Sep 07 08:46:36 as the one you were currently running Sep 07 08:46:43 psycho_oreos: and i've done it Sep 07 08:46:43 that can be Sep 07 08:46:55 psycho_oreos: omap has bootloader in ROM Sep 07 08:46:57 You can either manually flash the kernel with the flasher utility Sep 07 08:47:11 the backup hold the 48 powerkernel, the N900 has an updated 49 Sep 07 08:47:13 Or start from scratch, install backupmenu, then restore Sep 07 08:47:15 jacekowski, so what does it look like without NOLO? you still get the nokia screen? out of curiousity that is Sep 07 08:47:18 povbot: ~coldflash Sep 07 08:47:18 jacekowski: Error: "~coldflash" is not a valid command. Sep 07 08:47:20 Yeah. Sep 07 08:47:20 povbot: no Sep 07 08:47:21 jacekowski: Error: "no" is not a valid command. Sep 07 08:47:24 psycho_oreos: no Sep 07 08:47:28 psycho_oreos: you get dead device Sep 07 08:47:35 robbiethe1st: I mean to use the n900 as a usb modem for my laptop Sep 07 08:47:35 psycho_oreos: that doesn't even power up Sep 07 08:47:39 psycho_oreos: in visible way Sep 07 08:47:56 So, you'll need to download the PK48 deb file, extract it, pull the zimage out of it, and flash that with the -k argument Sep 07 08:47:58 psycho_oreos: but if you plug usb cable in and then insert battery it powers up Sep 07 08:48:04 jacekowski, hmm ok and you're saying that's how cold flashing recovers it all.. heh I thought by that time you'd need JTAG Sep 07 08:48:06 jpinx, Yes, it does that by default Sep 07 08:48:26 psycho_oreos: and if you have flasher ready and waiting it will talk to bootrom and send coldflash nolo Sep 07 08:48:28 jpinx, use 'PC Suite' mode when you plug it into USB, then run your software PC side Sep 07 08:48:34 psycho_oreos: and then you can do normal flash using that Sep 07 08:48:52 robbiethe1st complete flash the device will not work? Sep 07 08:49:12 i mean the vannila and combined images? Sep 07 08:49:19 psycho_oreos: look at Sep 07 08:49:23 ~coldflash Sep 07 08:49:24 well, coldflash is http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2010-10-31.log.html#t2010-10-31T23:09:54 and next ~200 posts, or http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware/Cold_Flashing Sep 07 08:49:29 robbiethe1st: maybe I explain badly. I do the pcsuite connection but my debian laptop doesn't get connected Sep 07 08:49:52 jacekowski, interesting I thought cold flashing was where you still get nokia screen but it won't go into the right modes Sep 07 08:49:55 ThreeM, It won't boot because the kernel image is wrong. You can either flash the kernel alone, which will probably make it work, or do a reflash(combined only) Sep 07 08:50:04 No need for eMMC image at all Sep 07 08:50:17 hmm ok i will try Sep 07 08:50:20 jpinx, it's a debian issue. You'll probably need to use QVDial Sep 07 08:50:23 big thx Sep 07 08:50:27 psycho_oreos: NOKIA screen is from working second stage bootloader Sep 07 08:50:29 jacekowski, yeah I had a look at that wiki page before, didn't think that was a way to actually rescue even a dead NOLO Sep 07 08:50:43 psycho_oreos: n900 has 3 bootloaders Sep 07 08:50:46 yeah I　read that not long ago with a hack to change the nokia logo Sep 07 08:50:49 psycho_oreos: 4 in some way Sep 07 08:50:58 xloader is the first part? Sep 07 08:51:03 robbiethe1st: I'll come back to you - I' in a bus station here. not able to test anything Sep 07 08:51:03 psycho_oreos: bootrom Sep 07 08:51:10 nolo xloader Sep 07 08:51:12 nolo second Sep 07 08:51:19 *nods* Sep 07 08:51:32 + there is nolo second used for coldflashing Sep 07 08:51:36 it's different to normal nolo Sep 07 08:51:48 one is called secondary and other one is called 2nd Sep 07 08:52:00 but i don't remember which way it is Sep 07 08:52:01 Er, it's wvdial Sep 07 08:52:01 ahh Sep 07 08:53:20 psycho_oreos: and you have to make sure your phone is really switched off Sep 07 08:53:24 psycho_oreos: otherwise it won't work Sep 07 08:53:40 psycho_oreos: so you have to pull battery out and leave it for few seconds/minutes Sep 07 08:53:49 jpinx, keep http://pastebin.com/x8pFq1AA handy. You'll need to slightly modify this, but this is what you need in your /etc/wvdial.conf file to tether. Then, connect N900, PC Suite mode, and run wvdial(as root) Sep 07 08:54:31 robbiethe1st: thanks Sep 07 08:54:58 should just need to change the APN Sep 07 09:10:14 ([2011-09-07 10:16:00] i have a problem and i hope you yan help. My N900 hangs in a bootloop und doesend boot to flashmode by pressing u at startup) alien recharge your battery Sep 07 09:11:57 HA Sep 07 09:12:10 flashing the kernelimage 47 worked like a charm :) Sep 07 09:12:25 big thx robbiethe1st and psycho_oreos Sep 07 09:13:42 NP Sep 07 09:14:31 ([2011-09-07 10:38:56] is the deviced bricked when bootloader is fucked?) no, you can coldflash, but evidently yout problem isn't bootloader nor bootmenu, you got a problem at PC side Sep 07 09:15:39 DocScrutinizer problem is solved. Sep 07 09:21:28 http://www.ubergizmo.com/2011/09/electromagnetic-pulse-emp-bomb-developed-in-south-korea/ Sep 07 09:25:05 RST38h: I wonder whether SK forces wouldn't be damaged by EMP more than NK's Sep 07 09:26:35 robbiethe1st: how about backup/restore of kernel partition? Sep 07 09:34:14 I don't really know how I'd go about it... Could/would I use nandwrite/read, or should I try to just find a copy on the root/optfs? Sep 07 10:05:18 nandread/write is the way to go I'd think Sep 07 10:08:18 arrgs .. bricked my device :P Sep 07 10:08:48 How do I disable apt updating over wifi? Sep 07 10:08:56 s/wifi/cellular/ Sep 07 10:08:57 neal meant: How do I disable apt updating over cellular? Sep 07 10:12:42 neal, http://wiki.maemo.org/Customizing_Maemo#Disabling_Auto_Updates_Check Sep 07 10:18:26 Venemo: Thanks! Sep 07 10:18:31 neal, yw Sep 07 11:11:14 Sep 07 11:12:05 never chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf... lol Sep 07 12:02:34 err wut? Sep 07 12:04:43 psycho_oreos: why? Sep 07 12:05:10 on maemo I thought /etc/resolv.conf actually never gets changed Sep 07 12:06:32 DocScrutinizer, I don't know if it is just me but I rememeber I　manually added entries into resolv.conf and that was cleared out when I switched.. maybe I restored my backup and hence I overreacted Sep 07 12:07:13 well, you're not supposed to add entries to resolv.conf Sep 07 12:07:28 it was one of the things that sort of annoyed me as it took ages for pages to load even with all those addons for microb to make it go faster Sep 07 12:07:50 true but I was annoyed at it taking its time to resolve hostnames and hence going about my own ways :/ Sep 07 12:08:07 resolv.conf is meant to point to 127.0.0.1 always Sep 07 12:08:18 on maemo Sep 07 12:08:42 on mine it was blank, I've added google dns entries before and now I'm adding them again Sep 07 12:10:25 BS Sep 07 12:10:38 fremantle is using dnsmasq Sep 07 12:10:43 see cat /etc/resolvconf/update.d/dnsmasq Sep 07 12:11:24 IroN900:~# cat /etc/resolv.conf Sep 07 12:11:26 nameserver 127.0.0.1 Sep 07 12:11:27 IroN900:~# Sep 07 12:12:00 mine was definitely empty :) Sep 07 12:12:19 I have a few tarballs to prove it.. but it could've been something that I've done to make it go blank lol Sep 07 12:44:51 what repo is dbus-scripts on? not finding Sep 07 12:46:26 extras-devel apparently Sep 07 12:46:29 i have it activated Sep 07 12:47:18 might need to refresh the lists Sep 07 12:47:23 did Sep 07 12:49:25 through which program? Sep 07 12:49:48 ssh, apt-get update Sep 07 12:50:14 no errors when it came to downloading and refreshing package lists from extras-devel? Sep 07 12:50:42 actually hm Sep 07 12:50:43 i might have lied Sep 07 12:50:56 looks like FAM has a source list of it's own Sep 07 12:51:34 it doesn't Sep 07 12:51:46 well I see extras-devel there, well and activated Sep 07 12:51:51 in HAM I don't Sep 07 12:51:58 dbus-scripts afaik doesn't have icon and if it doesn't have icon iinm FAM or HAM　would not list it as a program Sep 07 12:52:19 didnt look it from there, just checked the repositories in FAM Sep 07 12:52:25 meaning in other words its best to install it from the command line Sep 07 12:52:44 FAM relies on apt-get Sep 07 12:53:05 hi Sep 07 12:53:12 hi Sep 07 12:54:09 sigh I quit HAM Sep 07 12:54:13 E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? Sep 07 12:54:41 finally Sep 07 12:55:00 and adding extras-devel in HAM worked, even it showed up in FAM Sep 07 12:55:07 mind you I just installed the new CSSU update Sep 07 12:55:15 * jonwil wishes he could find someone who knows how to write status bar widgets so he can get some help writing the Cell Broadcast SMS widget Sep 07 12:56:09 Poke the authors of some? Sep 07 12:56:23 cpumem applet? Sep 07 12:56:48 dont know of anyone who makes these things Sep 07 12:56:51 :P Sep 07 12:57:32 well - look at he project page, and ping them Sep 07 13:04:37 just applied karam's speed and batterypatch Sep 07 13:04:47 we'll see how good it functions Sep 07 13:06:13 probably a common question , now that cssu update is out Sep 07 13:06:34 lol Sep 07 13:06:36 it won't boot xD Sep 07 13:06:41 i'm guessing low battery though Sep 07 13:06:45 i've booted many times now :f Sep 07 13:07:18 how to tell where I got too much occupied space in the root fs? Sep 07 13:07:23 du Sep 07 13:07:38 du / | sort -n Sep 07 13:07:39 du --max-depth=1 doesnt work Sep 07 13:07:49 cityLights: ncdu Sep 07 13:08:11 kimitake: wtf Sep 07 13:10:48 it will remember the layouts you want for portrait and landscape, so you only need to set them up once Sep 07 13:11:03 crap, sorry, wrong channel Sep 07 13:16:08 Is there a way to figure out when a h-a-m update has completed and what its status was, e.g., some dbus signal? com.nokia.hildon_application_manager doesn't appear to provide such functionality... Sep 07 13:24:20 how to get the rx/tx speed a device gives Sep 07 13:24:24 like vnstat Sep 07 13:24:49 which shows that eth0 is now sending (tx) 0Mib/sec Sep 07 13:24:53 which shows that eth0 is now sending (tx) 10Mib/sec Sep 07 13:27:35 &win 33 Sep 07 13:50:40 well Sep 07 13:51:00 that karam's battery and speed patch Sep 07 13:51:18 device boots, and i'm now at the desktop with nothing but a wallpaper and the menu icon Sep 07 13:51:24 won't react to anything Sep 07 13:51:59 alright stuff just happened Sep 07 13:52:46 looked like artifacts on screen Sep 07 13:52:52 perhaps i shoujld disable that gpu acc of menus Sep 07 13:53:02 and other stuff... if i ever get there Sep 07 13:56:16 works now Sep 07 14:24:46 so Sep 07 14:24:51 opinions on must-have apps Sep 07 14:25:00 or rather, what are your must-have apps Sep 07 14:41:09 bindi, microB Sep 07 14:41:18 aircrack, nmap Sep 07 14:41:27 I actually tried aircrack Sep 07 14:41:35 webOs games, psx4m Sep 07 14:41:38 the wlan card mode or something drove me nuts and it wouldnt work Sep 07 14:41:44 it does work Sep 07 14:42:07 and the N900 wifi is very powerful Sep 07 14:42:09 user error clearly :p Sep 07 14:42:16 very powerful? :D Sep 07 14:42:22 in terms of speed, not really Sep 07 14:42:26 500 kB/s is what i've peaked at Sep 07 14:42:35 really close to the ap Sep 07 14:42:36 I mean, it can get wifi packets over many walls for me Sep 07 14:42:46 maybe walls around me are too thin haha Sep 07 14:42:57 actually yeah Sep 07 14:43:05 I get 1.8M/s or so transfer to another thing on the net Sep 07 14:43:10 how? D: Sep 07 14:43:13 localnet Sep 07 14:43:21 scp foo phone Sep 07 14:43:36 100Mb line here Sep 07 14:43:42 laptop gets 10 Mb Sep 07 14:43:44 this is internal Sep 07 14:43:48 to a g router Sep 07 14:43:50 yes Sep 07 14:43:52 i know Sep 07 14:43:58 i could test it locally but doesnt change anything Sep 07 14:43:59 it's slow Sep 07 14:44:00 but the best app to me is...; Sep 07 14:44:01 even ssh lags Sep 07 14:44:03 XTerm haha Sep 07 14:44:27 kevin_b: did aircrack-ng work for you out of the box? Sep 07 14:44:34 bindi: that probably indicates probelms with powerdaving Sep 07 14:44:42 it installed to a weird location and i had to add it to $PATH Sep 07 14:44:43 mmm, maybe need to use the extras-devel one Sep 07 14:45:07 and then i don't know what it failed on Sep 07 14:45:09 or don't remember Sep 07 14:45:12 SpeedEvil: hmm? Sep 07 14:46:36 powersaving Sep 07 14:47:30 kevin_b: I have extras-devel and extras, how do I get the devel one? Sep 07 14:47:33 I'm only seeing one anyway Sep 07 14:47:48 yea anyway maybe there s only one Sep 07 15:10:12 anyone know if h-a-m uses the files in /var/cache/apt/archives? Sep 07 15:10:24 or does it always redownload? Sep 07 15:10:55 e.g, if I do apt-get install --download-only, will h-a-m later use the downloaded archives or will it redownload them? Sep 07 15:17:22 ...Marx claimed that under industrial age capitalism's rules, commodities became revered talismans, worshipped through transactional exchanges, imbued with mystical powers that give them inherent value... Sep 07 15:17:34 iPhone! Sep 07 15:32:17 gold Sep 07 15:32:50 Gold is older than that Sep 07 15:42:49 SpeedEvil: ping Sep 07 15:58:25 so, i checked out cssu camera-ui from git, built it but it only says "Init: 0x4134f330" when run and sits silently :/ Sep 07 15:58:31 (no gui) Sep 07 16:08:57 neal: at least apt-get install does use them, so i'd suppose ham does too Sep 07 16:51:01 DocScrutinizer, why is it that people on the German e-bay usually only ship to Germany? Sep 07 16:52:28 they probably hate the trouble of shipping to another country Sep 07 16:52:50 meh. Sep 07 16:54:58 ..does solving that problem involve something else than money? Sep 07 16:55:30 Venemo: looking up shipping costs is a hazzle Sep 07 16:56:24 so they are lazy Sep 07 17:24:25 hi Sep 07 17:24:40 who's in charge of CSSU version of camera-ui? Sep 07 17:26:46 dos1: ask in #maemo-ssu Sep 07 17:26:53 wmarone: ok, thanks Sep 07 17:34:14 hello. i am having trouble connecting via wifi to a particular access point. it is a wap54g and for some reason when i choose to connect to it from the "internet connections" menu and enter the wpa pre-shared key, i get "Network connection error. Try again?" but trying again yields the same result. Sep 07 17:34:44 this in an n900.... Sep 07 17:35:25 other devices connect fine to this ap? Sep 07 17:35:50 yes, i have connected via laptop using the same pre-shared key Sep 07 17:36:46 n900 can connect to other ap's? Sep 07 17:37:22 yes, n900 has connected to other aps with no problems Sep 07 17:42:40 any idea what could be the problem? Sep 07 18:01:06 WARNING: it seems that camera-ui from newest CSSU is overwriting photos taken by another applications (like BlessN900)!!! Sep 07 18:01:44 [2011-09-07 19:56:13] WARNING: it seems that camera-ui from newest CSSU is overwriting photos taken by another applications (like BlessN900)!!! Sep 07 18:02:31 this is the supergau bug, it causes USEr DATA LOSS Sep 07 18:03:06 so please beware of the most recent CSSU update Sep 07 18:03:13 We apologize, but we are unable to access your hosting account information at this time. Sep 07 18:03:17 or take care about your pictures Sep 07 18:04:29 s/gau/MCA/ Sep 07 18:05:19 maximum credible accident Sep 07 18:08:37 lol there is nowhere some tutorial for pymaemo with layout manager. All examples just do one button on window Sep 07 18:09:06 and with gtk layout manager, I cant add hilton.Button Sep 07 18:23:00 We apologize, but we are unable to access your hosting account information at this time. Sep 07 19:41:11 interesting this kamil's battery patch Sep 07 19:41:15 it's drained 40% in 2.5 hours Sep 07 19:41:19 idled all time except for 1 call Sep 07 19:41:23 no 3g no wlan Sep 07 19:51:53 sure there wasn't any busy process in the background? (i once had MicroEmulator drain about just as fast after it crased) Sep 07 19:52:57 ~uptime Sep 07 19:53:08 aaaha Sep 07 19:53:18 Okay, I'm here. (courtesy of docscrutinizer) Sep 07 20:22:24 hey Sep 07 20:22:36 is it possible to use the sim access profile on the n900? Sep 07 20:28:47 don't think so. there isn't any setting for it.. tried scanning N900 from a computer? Sep 07 20:31:49 Sicelo: ah good idea i will look how i can do it with hcitool Sep 07 20:32:51 i have just done it. isn't there :) Sep 07 20:33:55 hum and hfl? Sep 07 20:36:15 nope, actually i think bluetooth profiles supported by N900 are listed somewhere, wiki maybe Sep 07 20:37:22 Service Name: Headset Audio Gateway Sep 07 20:37:22 Service Name: Hands-Free Audio Gateway Sep 07 20:37:22 Service Name: Audio Source Sep 07 20:37:22 Service Name: AVRCP TG Sep 07 20:37:22 Service Name: AVRCP CT Sep 07 20:37:24 Service Name: Object Push server Sep 07 20:37:27 Service Name: File Transfer server Sep 07 20:37:29 Service Name: Nokia OBEX PC Suite Services Sep 07 20:37:32 Service Name: SyncML Client Sep 07 20:37:34 Service Name: Nokia SyncML Server Sep 07 20:37:37 hum can be hands-free audio gateway Sep 07 20:37:38 Sim access profile requires low-level support by the modem Sep 07 20:37:46 As I understand it - it's not supported. Sep 07 20:37:50 Which is a real pity Sep 07 20:38:13 SpeedEvil: :/ Sep 07 20:40:20 it's really hard to understand nokia :( Sep 07 20:40:52 no meego device in germany :/ Sep 07 20:41:05 then it would be not so problem when the n900 hat not this feature :/ Sep 07 20:42:20 would need a proper -p(lugin) for csd (see ps ax|grep csd, cat /proc/`pidof csd`/cmdline) Sep 07 20:43:27 * DocScrutinizer wonders what's -p sim and -p simpb Sep 07 20:44:45 DocScrutinizer: explain :) Sep 07 20:44:54 ?? Sep 07 20:45:20 what is csd? Sep 07 20:45:48 the daemon connecting to ISI aka modem I guess Sep 07 20:46:12 769 root 3280 S /usr/sbin/csd -m -p call -p gprs -p info -p net -p si Sep 07 20:46:47 ah ok Sep 07 20:49:27 I guess it doesn't know how to handle SIM access profile Sep 07 20:49:52 you mean from the hardware? Sep 07 20:49:53 maybe not even modem firmware allows that Sep 07 20:50:40 I think there's really very few mobile phones that actually support SAP Sep 07 20:51:03 Freerunner one of them, since err moko10? Sep 07 20:51:08 :-D Sep 07 20:51:08 9500/9300 ftw ;) Sep 07 20:51:54 lol ;) Sep 07 20:52:04 for some reason it seems manufacturers consider SAP a security issue Sep 07 20:52:12 \o/ javispedro Sep 07 20:52:14 DocScrutinizer: the openmoko neo freerunner the best supported device on the earth ;( Sep 07 20:52:17 moo. Sep 07 20:52:17 :) Sep 07 20:52:44 DocScrutinizer: yeah and the car manufactures say its great ;) Sep 07 20:52:46 PBeck: WHAT?! I gave you SAP and you still complain? ;-P Sep 07 20:53:03 DocScrutinizer: on the wrong device ;) Sep 07 20:55:46 PBeck: >> === Moko9-Beta2 === * Adds "AT+CSIM" (for swisscom)<< http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/calypso_moko_FW/all_version__CHANGELOG.txt Sep 07 20:55:50 why is my rootfs 99% full just after flashing and installing cssu Sep 07 20:57:48 DocScrutinizer: good good ;) Sep 07 20:58:21 bah .. not even space to install rootsh .. fuuu! Sep 07 21:01:44 There's so many battery/speed/overclock threads these days Sep 07 21:04:01 cehteh: sounds odd Sep 07 21:04:33 cehteh: please rise the issue on #maemo-ssu Sep 07 21:11:33 what would be the best way to add an environment variable visible in all the applications launched from the UI? Sep 07 21:12:24 I don't know why my device lacks INTERNAL_MMC_MOUNTPOINT and my camera reports no available space, although there are quite a few free GBs Sep 07 21:13:37