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Oct 14 03:20:49 <yigal> is there any active work modify Modest or creating a better email client?  One for instance that one doesn't have to hit a few buttons before getting to the inbox?
Oct 14 03:22:12 <yigal> I understand that the idea is to come to these applications in a general way but really one would hope to be ushered to, hopefully, the email message, not just the inbox when touching it on the email applet
Oct 14 03:22:37 <yigal> so basically ui issues I'm wondering if anyone is working on it
Oct 14 03:23:47 <yigal> all work and no play makes yigal a dull boy
Oct 14 03:27:13 <yigal> ok really well that's sad
Oct 14 03:32:20 <wmarone> heh
Oct 14 03:32:37 <wmarone> it's also a real bad time for pretty much the rest of the world
Oct 14 07:20:16 <arnet> hey people.
Oct 14 07:20:47 <arnet> I am using modest on my GNU/Linux pc via ssh X forwarding
Oct 14 07:20:58 <arnet> so I have mail application on my computer screen
Oct 14 07:21:14 <arnet> and can use my computer keybpard in order to write letters.
Oct 14 07:21:33 <arnet> The problem is, when I type in modest, it does not capture <enter> key.
Oct 14 07:21:37 <arnet> I wonder why?
Oct 14 07:22:22 <arnet> May be because my laptop's keyboard's <enter> keycode and n900's <enter> keycode are different?
Oct 14 07:22:53 <Sicelo> try Ctrl+M
Oct 14 07:23:30 <arnet> tried :)
Oct 14 07:23:34 <Sicelo> :/ but that's for terminal usually
Oct 14 07:23:41 <arnet> yep, didn't help :)
Oct 14 07:25:17 <Sicelo> keycodes should be similar, afaik
Oct 14 07:29:26 <arnet> Tried leafpad
Oct 14 07:29:31 <arnet> the same issue.
Oct 14 07:29:42 <arnet> May be something with gtk
Oct 14 07:29:48 <amiconn> Something differs between the n900 keyboard and a standard one; in the similar case of hooking up an external keyboard to the n900 (usb host or bluetooth) you need extkbd to make it work properly
Oct 14 07:31:31 <arnet> hmmm, I guess I did manage to use it with bluetooth keyboard without exkbd before.
Oct 14 07:31:57 <arnet> I just needed some other xkb maps, copied them from my laptop to n900, and was turning them on with setxkbmap
Oct 14 07:32:20 <arnet> I guess that's what extkbd does...
Oct 14 09:00:03 <DocScrutinizer> arnet: get cssu, or see
Oct 14 09:00:06 <DocScrutinizer> ~jrtools
Oct 14 09:00:06 <infobot> extra, extra, read all about it, jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools
Oct 14 10:16:28 <arnet> besides, in maemo forums I've got a reply, that enter on the nokia has the same keycode as the numerical keyboard's enter
Oct 14 10:16:41 <arnet> so I've tried with external keyboard, and that enter works
Oct 14 10:16:42 <arnet> indeed
Oct 14 10:18:44 <Sicelo> 09:21 < Sicelo> keycodes should be similar, afaik. | the issue seems related to ssh. did u visit the link?
Oct 14 10:19:46 <DocScrutinizer> arnet: you've seen my last 2 posts?
Oct 14 10:20:13 <DocScrutinizer> get cssu or read about it at jrtools
Oct 14 10:20:19 <DocScrutinizer> ~cssu
Oct 14 10:20:19 <infobot> rumour has it, cssu is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU
Oct 14 10:20:25 <DocScrutinizer> ~jrtools
Oct 14 10:20:25 <infobot> well, jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools
Oct 14 10:21:31 <DocScrutinizer> arnet: yes, it's an age old flaw with hw-kbd on maemo devices CR is mapped to NK-enter
Oct 14 10:23:32 <arnet> DocScrutinizer: ok, thanks :)
Oct 14 10:24:05 <arnet> DocScrutinizer: I guess you repeated the links. I've missed them.
Oct 14 10:24:43 <arnet> Sicelo: yes, I missed the link, using webchat right now, because of the closed ports.
Oct 14 10:24:47 <arnet> and have no history
Oct 14 10:25:02 <DocScrutinizer> Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog
Oct 14 10:25:14 <arnet> ah, sure
Oct 14 10:33:31 <NIN101> wow titan is back http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1108606#post1108606 haha :-). 
Oct 14 10:47:57 <kakashi_> firefox is completely out of the n900?
Oct 14 10:48:03 <kakashi_> I dont see an updated version 
Oct 14 10:48:09 <kakashi_> all they do is for android 
Oct 14 10:57:08 <jiero> Firefox for both just rubbish.
Oct 14 11:10:02 <Juozapas> hi
Oct 14 11:11:10 <Juozapas> i changed something on my google public profile and now i can't see online/offline contacts on my address book
Oct 14 11:11:15 <Juozapas> any ideas?
Oct 14 11:11:35 <Juozapas> i tried to disable/enable my gtalk acc on phone
Oct 14 11:12:06 <Juozapas> and i even deleted it and added it again
Oct 14 11:12:16 <Juozapas> nothing helped
Oct 14 11:48:34 <amiconn> kakashi_: Current Firefox is available for n900 (7.0)
Oct 14 11:48:56 <amiconn> I wouldn't recommend it for anything though. It's several times slower than MicroB
Oct 14 11:49:40 <amiconn> Oh, and you need to download the .deb manually since mozilla didn't manage to fix their repo. It's been broken for several months now
Oct 14 12:18:41 <Logistic> anyone about using get_iplayer ?
Oct 14 12:19:11 <Logistic> have  installed it with ffmpeg. and am trying to get a radio show
Oct 14 12:19:27 <Logistic> is only availabe in aac or wma
Oct 14 12:20:25 <Logistic> flash aac im getting unkown format error from ffdshow. and then get_iplayer leaves it as an flv that  wont play in anything
Oct 14 12:20:37 <Logistic> also installed extra codec pack
Oct 14 14:59:21 <kakashi_> I have this directions in google maps, how do I get it to ovi maps? 
Oct 14 14:59:34 <kakashi_> is there a simple way to do that? 
Oct 14 15:33:24 <FIQ|n900> um
Oct 14 15:33:35 <FIQ|n900> there is an option in the mail UI
Oct 14 15:33:54 <FIQ|n900> "mcenfiadvsetupofflinesync"
Oct 14 15:33:57 <FIQ|n900> a checkbox
Oct 14 15:34:05 <FIQ|n900> what does that do? :P
Oct 14 16:15:19 <merlin1991> FIQ: afaik that's related to offline imap
Oct 14 16:20:19 <HyperSnyper> can anyone help me get libmp3lame installed, have tried apt-get / libmp3lame / libmp3lame-dev / libmp3lame0
Oct 14 16:21:13 <HyperSnyper> all those say no package
Oct 14 16:22:44 <HyperSnyper> trying to reencode aac flv to mp3 with ffmpeg
Oct 14 16:38:27 <hanning> hey
Oct 14 16:38:44 <hanning> i just went through the wiki-article about reflashing
Oct 14 16:38:54 <hanning> flashed eMMC, and rootfs afterwards
Oct 14 16:39:07 <hanning> but flashing the rootfs just took a few seconds
Oct 14 16:39:15 <hanning> although flasher didn't report any errors
Oct 14 16:40:27 <hanning> http://pastebin.com/5i23sMwf
Oct 14 16:40:47 <hanning> am i save to reboot the device now?
Oct 14 17:03:55 <DocScrutinizer> well, worst thing that could happen is you find flashing wasn't successful and you need to redo it
Oct 14 17:06:08 <DocScrutinizer> but actually that doesn't look like a completed flash of COMBINED
Oct 14 17:06:15 <hanning> yup
Oct 14 17:06:27 <hanning> removed the battery, and tried again
Oct 14 17:06:34 <hanning> flashed successful :)
Oct 14 17:06:39 <DocScrutinizer> :-D
Oct 14 17:06:45 <hanning> currently installing community_ssu :D
Oct 14 17:06:51 <HyperSnyper> DocScrutinizer any advice for getting libmp3lame installed
Oct 14 17:07:04 <HyperSnyper> for use with ffmpeg
Oct 14 17:07:25 <DocScrutinizer> you could do mankind a favour and paste your protocol of a complete successful flash to a wikipage at wiki.maemo.org, then link to that page from 
Oct 14 17:07:27 <DocScrutinizer> ~flash
Oct 14 17:07:28 <infobot> extra, extra, read all about it, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware
Oct 14 17:07:50 <DocScrutinizer> HyperSnyper: apt-get install?
Oct 14 17:08:16 <HyperSnyper> have tried all names i could find through google but all said pack missing
Oct 14 17:08:30 <HyperSnyper> libmp3lame / libmp3lame-dev / libmp3lame0
Oct 14 17:08:33 <DocScrutinizer> IroN900:~# apt-cache search libmp3lame
Oct 14 17:08:34 <DocScrutinizer> libmp3lame-dev - LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder
Oct 14 17:08:36 <DocScrutinizer> libmp3lame0 - LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder
Oct 14 17:08:46 <HyperSnyper> hmmm
Oct 14 17:09:18 <DocScrutinizer> IroN900:~# apt-cache policy libmp3lame0
Oct 14 17:09:19 <DocScrutinizer> libmp3lame0:
Oct 14 17:09:21 <DocScrutinizer>   Installed: (none)
Oct 14 17:09:22 <DocScrutinizer>   Candidate: 3.98-0.0maemo1
Oct 14 17:09:25 <DocScrutinizer>         500 http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3/free Packages
Oct 14 17:12:42 <DocScrutinizer> HyperSnyper: ooh and of course: http://maemo.org/packages/search/?org_maemo_packages_search[1][property]=name&org_maemo_packages_search[1][constraint]=LIKE&org_maemo_packages_search[1][value]=mp3lame&org_maemo_packages_search[2][property]=title&org_maemo_packages_search[2][constraint]=LIKE&org_maemo_packages_search[2][value]=same
Oct 14 17:14:36 <DocScrutinizer> aka 
Oct 14 17:14:40 <DocScrutinizer> ~maemopkg
Oct 14 17:14:40 <infobot> methinks maemopkg is http://maemo.org/packages/
Oct 14 17:21:30 <HyperSnyper> things theirs something up with my repo's
Oct 14 17:21:31 <HyperSnyper> ;P
Oct 14 17:21:36 <HyperSnyper> *think
Oct 14 17:34:32 <DocScrutinizer> oh well, it's weekend. maemo repo downtime
Oct 14 17:34:36 <ruskie> heh
Oct 14 18:17:31 <merlin1991> DocScrutinizer: use one of the mirrors out there ;)
Oct 14 18:21:06 <smhar> is there a hope that Group SMS be integrated with stock Contacts and SMS?
Oct 14 18:21:42 <merlin1991> smhar: what do you mean?
Oct 14 18:23:27 <smhar> Group SMS is a separate application that requires user to create groups and add contacts to them and then the user will be able to send an sms to the whole group
Oct 14 18:26:57 <smhar> merlin1991, http://maemo.org/packages/view/groupsms/
Oct 14 18:30:47 <DocScrutinizer> merlin1991: eh?
Oct 14 18:31:18 <merlin1991> DocScrutinizer: well it sounded as if you wanted to get something from the maemo repo
Oct 14 18:36:31 <DocScrutinizer> [2011-10-14 19:17:41] <HyperSnyper> things theirs something up with my repo's
Oct 14 18:37:29 <Vanadis__> oh hai
Oct 14 18:37:38 <Vanadis__> anything new about reflashing the n9?
Oct 14 18:50:40 <DocScrutinizer> see #harmattan , but no
Oct 14 19:07:30 <sar3th> hey guys, got a very sad error with my N900
Oct 14 19:08:01 <SpeedEvil> ?
Oct 14 19:08:02 <sar3th> a strange icon appeard and i get a message...best is if you see for yourself: http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/4725/screenshot2011101420551.png and http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2219/screenshot2011101421030.png
Oct 14 19:08:21 <SpeedEvil> 'sim error'
Oct 14 19:08:34 <sar3th> rebooting ofc fixes nothing :( i just flashed the device entirely, but the error persists
Oct 14 19:08:42 <sar3th> SpeedEvil: i removed my sim and the error's still there
Oct 14 19:08:44 <SpeedEvil> Try removing and cleaning the SIM
Oct 14 19:08:46 <SpeedEvil> ah
Oct 14 19:08:51 <SpeedEvil> Are you in the EU?
Oct 14 19:08:56 <sar3th> yes
Oct 14 19:09:26 <SpeedEvil> I'd suggest warranty service. Then either try to get n900 replacement, or sell replacement, and buy.
Oct 14 19:09:44 <sar3th> alright, i thought so, just wanted to make sure it's not a software prob :) thanks
Oct 14 19:15:27 <jacekowski> sar3th: what does it say when flashing
Oct 14 19:15:35 <jacekowski> sar3th: is cmt flashed correctly?
Oct 14 19:16:26 <sar3th> jacekowski: yeah, i did not get any error messages from flasher, it seemed to work normally
Oct 14 19:21:28 <SpeedEvil> Has the device possibly gotten damp?
Oct 14 19:22:10 <sar3th> don't think so, always kept it safe
Oct 14 19:39:45 <sar3th> the device does not report an IMEI anymore
Oct 14 19:42:47 * Sicelo wonders if that's not a case of bad s/w. i would reflash with a good image
Oct 14 19:43:24 <Sicelo> mine didn't report imei until i reflashed. (it was on pr1.1)
Oct 14 19:43:31 <sar3th> that's what i just did :C
Oct 14 19:46:22 <depressed> Are there any web based scripting languages that are packaged with maemo?
Oct 14 19:46:50 <jacekowski> what?
Oct 14 19:46:54 <jacekowski> javascript
Oct 14 20:04:01 <depressed> php, python etc
Oct 14 20:04:55 <Sicelo> both exist for maemo. check in HAM
Oct 14 20:05:37 <sar3th> reflashed again, same problem, this time saved the log: http://pastebin.com/9jS1dd2V
Oct 14 20:05:51 <sar3th> will send to nokia on monday
Oct 14 20:07:14 <Sicelo> try flashing from a linux machine too. or livecd (eg ubuntu, knoppix)
Oct 14 20:08:21 <sar3th> will do, got grml somewhere
Oct 14 20:23:57 <depressed> Sicelo: they are installable, but not packaged with maemo
Oct 14 20:24:31 <Sicelo> ah, i thought u meant available. sorry man :)
Oct 14 20:27:18 <hanning> is ovi maps broken or something?
Oct 14 20:27:42 <hanning> doesn't find the map application on the device
Oct 14 20:27:44 <depressed> It's ok bro. I'm trying to develop a cloud to device messaging platform. I've got a lot working with PHP but PHP is PHP
Oct 14 20:58:38 <themist912241> anybody want to buy a used samsung galaxy phone off me for 100 dollers 
Oct 14 20:58:43 <themist912241> maybe even less
Oct 14 20:59:22 <mgedmin> I think I'll wait until the N9 becomes outdated before jumping ship to Android
Oct 14 22:17:48 <RST38h> Judge Lucy Koh held up both objects and asked one of Samsung's attorneys whether she could identify which was which. The attorney replied, "Not at this distance, your honor." The distance was roughly 10 feet. The judge then quizzed the rest of Samsung's lawyers. After a brief hesitation, one of them was able to correctly identify the Galaxy Tab.
Oct 15 00:00:36 <RST38h> Meanwhile: Scientists Recover Black Death RNA From Exhumed Victims
Oct 15 00:00:43 <RST38h> [Way to go!]
Oct 15 00:32:15 <C-S-B> I can only find m1.4x3 screws to replace my n900 screws. Anyone have a link for m1.4x2.8 as specified in the service manual?
Oct 15 00:32:42 <C-S-B> or would it be OK to just use m1.4x3?
Oct 15 00:34:48 <SpeedEvil> I'd take the 1.4*3 and a bit of sandpaper
Oct 15 00:35:04 <SpeedEvil> It will need then some tidying up with very fine sandpaper.
Oct 15 00:36:49 <C-S-B> mmm, i was thinking dremel.
Oct 15 00:39:10 <C-S-B> either that or get 2.5 and have a bit less...
Oct 15 01:21:37 <SpeedEvil> I'd say 2.5 is likely to be fine, I'd be really hesitant on going over
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