**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Oct 30 02:59:56 2011 Oct 30 03:00:24 AlmightyOatmeal: rebooting now Oct 30 03:02:40 AlmightyOatmeal: worked. thanks :-) Oct 30 03:02:47 np Oct 30 03:03:06 i personally like my hostname as Nokia-N810-43-7 so i know what device i'm working with ;) Oct 30 03:03:33 well i only have one device so that's no problem for me :-) Oct 30 03:04:07 i have at least 4 ssh sessions open at one time, plus when i ssh into it, it's a handy reminder, though i could tweak it even more.. hmm Oct 30 03:04:18 i could tweak it to Nokia-N810-OS2008 Oct 30 03:05:15 lol Oct 30 03:06:07 i use different shell prompt color schemes for the different boxes i ssh into. learned that lesson the hard way, when i `rm -r *` on the wrong box once Oct 30 03:06:55 i use all bash (for user) and csh (for root) with a user@host # prompt Oct 30 03:07:06 brb, gf hijacking laptop Oct 30 03:07:26 lol Oct 30 07:23:18 i just love the n900 camera Oct 30 07:23:28 http://psi.abcom.co.nz/ic1.jpg Oct 30 07:23:37 does macro so well Oct 30 07:44:48 ~seen Pali Oct 30 07:44:53 pali <~quassel@rohar.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 29d 19h 30m 31s ago, saying: 'if we update/create new wrapper for that it is possible'. Oct 30 07:48:26 mohamadag: morning? Oct 30 08:19:53 yeah. think i will get an e7 Oct 30 08:19:57 heh Oct 30 08:20:17 as long as the usb port doesnt fall out im happy Oct 30 08:20:30 :) Oct 30 08:20:34 gfy Oct 30 08:20:57 psycho_oreos: heh... i still have a n900 otw Oct 30 08:21:03 wish i could clone my sim Oct 30 08:21:29 so i wouldnt have to swap it Oct 30 08:21:57 but the e7 looks good.. symbian isnt a bad os... just not as hipster as ios or android Oct 30 08:23:10 i was going to see if a duracell mygrid power clip fit the n900 Oct 30 08:23:24 that way i never have to touch the usb port Oct 30 08:23:42 bonus points if it fits over a silicon skin :) Oct 30 08:24:27 * psycho_oreos is evilishly thinking that someone should really indicate the reference to e7 is ot Oct 30 08:26:59 ot? Oct 30 08:30:24 offtopic Oct 30 10:04:12 Psi, indeed :) http://i.japh.se/_photo/n900_surv.jpg Oct 30 10:53:02 i want to use my n900 as a usb router but something is strange. if the gprs0 is working (connected via umts to the inet) usb0 seems to fail because i cant ping the local ip assigned to usb0 from a shell on my n900 (as root) but i can ping my laptop. my laptop cant ping the n900 no matter what i do Oct 30 10:53:35 please give me a hint because right now it seems like a bug to me Oct 30 10:56:13 http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_USB_router Oct 30 10:56:16 iptables? Oct 30 10:56:25 this is the guide iam using Oct 30 10:56:52 i checked iptables -L and also -t nat but nothing was set Oct 30 10:57:11 so this cant disable the ping Oct 30 10:58:28 dm8tbr: any other idea? Oct 30 10:58:38 maybe a missing route? Oct 30 10:59:13 no idea, never done this. was just a random thought Oct 30 10:59:16 i also removed all routes once and still it would not enable ping from lap to n900 Oct 30 10:59:27 if i disable the inet connection the ping works Oct 30 11:00:37 but why cant i ping the ip of usb0 from the n900??? Oct 30 11:01:21 is there a firmware/routing prevention in maemo??!! Oct 30 11:01:42 icd is the closed-source routing daemon that sets up and tears down connections. Oct 30 11:02:29 Is there a reason you're not just using modem mode? Oct 30 11:02:58 does that work with linux? Oct 30 11:03:02 yes Oct 30 11:04:04 where is a guide to that? Oct 30 11:06:37 thanks anyway Oct 30 11:41:55 sorry, a newbie question, if the FM function is ready on n900, or I have to install app to let n900 support it? Oct 30 11:43:22 you need to install fmradio to use the receiver Oct 30 11:43:31 Hi! Is it possible to detect from the build system (let it cmake for instance) whether or not I am on Fremantle/Diablo and other variants ? Oct 30 11:44:39 SpeedEvil: thank you for answer :) Oct 30 11:47:59 Use the 'C' FMradio, not the python one. Oct 30 11:48:04 The python one is hope.ss. Oct 30 11:48:04 will maemo be happy if an user password is set? Oct 30 11:48:16 Yes, you can set a user password. Oct 30 11:48:24 It doesn't affect normal use. Oct 30 11:48:28 interesting Oct 30 11:48:38 how does maemo log in then? :D Oct 30 11:48:54 ssh Oct 30 11:48:59 It doesn't really Oct 30 11:49:02 :) Oct 30 11:49:04 lol Oct 30 12:02:09 ~seen MohammadAG Oct 30 12:02:17 mohammadag <~MohammadA@Maemo/community/contributor/MohammadAG> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 22h 7m 33s ago, saying: 'I can't remember who, but a grep for red / bezeqint will help'. Oct 30 12:03:53 ok, I guess I may need to buy the N9 in bruselss this feb Oct 30 12:20:07 Hm, can I modigy the img installer to use my SD card (yes, all of it, i.e. repartitioning it)? Oct 30 12:20:42 which installer, easy debian? Oct 30 12:22:42 yes Oct 30 12:22:46 you need to make sure maemo doesnt care about the first partition not being FAT32 Oct 30 12:22:54 oh, sorry for me being unspecific Oct 30 12:23:28 I'm sure maemo will blame me for the SD card format being unsupported Oct 30 12:23:38 at least it did before when I tried out meego Oct 30 12:24:25 check maewiki: ext2 on microsdcard Oct 30 12:24:41 arrrgh, swkbd is annoying Oct 30 12:25:36 once you get maemo to stop complaining, add mmc1 to tracker's no index directory Oct 30 12:26:11 I've already turned the tracker off completly for various reasons Oct 30 12:26:16 then edit .chroot to point to /dev/mmcblk1p1 Oct 30 12:26:33 hmm Oct 30 12:26:43 so let's see here Oct 30 12:28:17 I can install the img file, then dd it to /dev/mmcblk1p1, then do what you said? Oct 30 12:28:27 yup Oct 30 12:28:51 ugh. honeycomb's task switcher is confusing. Oct 30 12:29:06 Hm, but what about if I want to use all the space in the card?? Oct 30 12:29:18 Make an ext2fs manually and just cp -r everything? Oct 30 12:29:19 dd it to mmcblk1 Oct 30 12:29:24 would that work? Oct 30 12:29:30 Hmm Oct 30 12:29:37 it's a blkdev anyways Oct 30 12:29:47 not like linux would care Oct 30 12:30:04 s/??/?/ Oct 30 12:30:07 just remove mmc1 from genfstab Oct 30 12:30:34 http://theunderstatement.com/post/11982112928/android-orphans-visualizing-a-sad-history-of-support Oct 30 12:30:52 dd if=ezdeb.ext2.img of=/dev/mmcblk1 Oct 30 12:34:09 @macer not like they care once the money's changed hands, really Oct 30 12:34:27 also, not like they're obligated to Oct 30 12:34:51 that's why it's handy to have an unlocked bootloader Oct 30 12:35:12 the corps dont really give a rat's ass about support Oct 30 12:35:30 same is true for almost every other hw manufacturer Oct 30 12:36:01 brb switching to desktop Oct 30 12:41:24 heh Oct 30 12:41:52 at least n900 owners can say they have the latest maemo? Oct 30 12:41:54 :) Oct 30 12:46:07 :P Oct 30 12:52:25 Macer, latest and last ;) Oct 30 13:00:16 Hurrian: tbh I'd mostly expect it to be a matter of whichever party deals with end-users, being risk-averse Oct 30 13:00:53 and minimizing supported configurations Oct 30 13:07:24 so I'd wager on portfolio breadth, and the number/influence of timid business layers between makers and users Oct 30 13:09:54 a certain produce-oriented outfit compared to in the article has taken the approach of apparently minimizing both, so being able to dtrt is not so surprising Oct 30 13:10:07 with android I don't suppose it works out that way ;) Oct 30 13:55:17 Macer: I'd hope Maemo users know to not trust Nokia by now :P Oct 30 13:55:36 Maemo 5 failed to ever deliver on even the basic features, thanks to Nokia Oct 30 13:56:02 eg, 720p video recording (or even any usable video recording really), automatic GPS updates to IM status, etc Oct 30 13:57:15 i thought the video recording was ok Oct 30 13:57:29 and GPS updates worked fine for me Oct 30 13:57:36 me too Oct 30 13:57:58 MohammadAG: they die as soon as you lose connectivity, until you reboot Oct 30 13:58:07 video recording drops frames like crazy Oct 30 13:58:14 often for whole seconds Oct 30 13:58:24 Disable tracker, solve problem! Oct 30 13:58:26 i honestly never had a problem with the video recording Oct 30 13:58:26 both of these bugs were closed WONTFIX by Nokia Oct 30 13:58:32 i used it often Oct 30 13:58:33 robbiethe1st: I haven't had tracker enabled in years Oct 30 13:58:40 Then OC the damned thing? Oct 30 13:58:43 no Oct 30 13:58:47 most bugs were WONTFIX Oct 30 13:58:50 it's already OC'd too much Oct 30 13:58:57 I'm running mine at 1ghz+; works fine for me. Oct 30 13:58:59 WONTFIX = acknowledged it Oct 30 13:59:02 WONTFIX = acknowledged it's broken Oct 30 13:59:09 robbiethe1st: until it dies an early death Oct 30 13:59:26 or that they believe it works how it is supposed to work Oct 30 13:59:33 Macer: nope Oct 30 13:59:44 my im gps updated just fine Oct 30 13:59:46 and since it'll probably be 3 years until someone comes out with a replacement device, I need N900 to last that long Oct 30 13:59:48 My first one lasted over a year at that; until the USB port broke. If it dies early, /SO?? Oct 30 13:59:55 Just pick up a spare. Oct 30 13:59:57 and my video recorded just fine as well Oct 30 13:59:58 robbiethe1st: so you can't get a spare anymore Oct 30 14:00:06 I just did, off ebay. Oct 30 14:00:13 There's plenty of them around. Oct 30 14:00:18 also, that costs $ Oct 30 14:00:23 i did too Oct 30 14:00:25 Macer: nope, "believe it works like should" is INVALID, not WONTFIX Oct 30 14:00:27 I don't want to waste $ on a defective product Oct 30 14:00:30 255 on ebay Oct 30 14:00:36 DocScrutinizer: ah ok Oct 30 14:00:53 so WONTFIX = DONTCARE Oct 30 14:01:05 I just hope some Android phone is rootable to the point I can flash a vanilla Linux on it Oct 30 14:01:07 :/ Oct 30 14:01:10 luke-jr: i just ordered a new one Oct 30 14:01:17 honesttly... i want an e7 :) Oct 30 14:01:18 Macer: WONTFIX = it's broken, but we won't take 5 minutes to fix it Oct 30 14:01:20 heh Oct 30 14:01:41 was it a closed section of maemo? Oct 30 14:02:26 but i loved my n900 Oct 30 14:02:37 but alas.. my usb port broke as well Oct 30 14:03:02 this time i am just using a duracell mygrid microusb power clip and never touching the usb port lol Oct 30 14:03:40 how to flash w/o USB? :P Oct 30 14:03:45 but the e7 actually looks pretty nice for a symbian device Oct 30 14:03:51 cheap too Oct 30 14:03:54

I just hope some Android phone is rootable to the point I can flash a vanilla Linux on it Oct 30 14:03:54

:/ Oct 30 14:03:58 Personally, I'm being careful with my new one until I can pull it apart and solder the top of the port to the surrounding metal framework. Oct 30 14:04:11 coouldn't you flash some old WP6.5 phones with pretty much whatever you wanted? Oct 30 14:04:17 Also, flashing without USB? we have BM and USB testpoints for a reason. Oct 30 14:04:32 IIRC someone flashed ubuntu mobile onto an Xperia X1 Oct 30 14:04:37 Macer: pretty sure that Duracell thing won't work on N900 Oct 30 14:04:44 (yes, old, i know, but still, there's possibilities :P) Oct 30 14:04:46 Macer: looks like it blocks against the lens Oct 30 14:04:53 FIQ: old = old Oct 30 14:05:06 my point is, it works, on some devices Oct 30 14:05:24 wouldn't be suprised if you could do this to pretty new devices as well Oct 30 14:05:34 the hard part is the DRM crap Oct 30 14:05:39 and they conveniently ignore the GPL Oct 30 14:06:10 anyhow, bbl Oct 30 14:06:14 HI, i need bzip2 package http://maemo.org/packages/view/bzip2/ on my N900 device, maemo pr1.3 , it is on "Fremantle SDK free i386" repository , how should i add this to my catalogues? i mean web address , distribution and components? Oct 30 14:06:53 maour: protip: don't Oct 30 14:08:44 FIQ: i didn't get it, what do you mean ? Oct 30 14:08:55 DON'T do it Oct 30 14:08:59 why Oct 30 14:09:14 i need bzip2 , then how to do it Oct 30 14:09:20 in the best case you get many broken packages Oct 30 14:09:34 worst: gz, you have to reflash Oct 30 14:09:48 i want to install nitdroid Oct 30 14:10:02 um Oct 30 14:10:18 so i need bzip2 , should i download it's deb package and install it manually ? Oct 30 14:10:28 the pkgs from i386 repo usually run umm... suboptimal on N900 Oct 30 14:10:53 then should i try with this one ? > Maemo 5 device SSU repository (>= PR1.2) Oct 30 14:10:58 lol, I didn't even realise that i386 wouldn't work at all :P Oct 30 14:11:12 but what i told still stands - don't don't don't DON'T do it Oct 30 14:11:26 i just need that package , Oct 30 14:11:37 ok maour, look Oct 30 14:11:50 1: N900 can't run i386 packages, it's an armel device Oct 30 14:12:13 2: I'm sure you can manage bzip packages with packages in the "normal" repositories Oct 30 14:12:26 but i'm not an package database :p Oct 30 14:12:29 I got bzip2 on my N900, quite likely from some pkg like e.g binutils or dunno what Oct 30 14:12:34 yeah Oct 30 14:13:52 doesn't even busybox come with bzip2? Oct 30 14:14:27 IroN900:~# apt-cache policy bzip2 Oct 30 14:14:28 bzip2: Oct 30 14:14:30 Installed: 1:1.0.5-3+0m5 Oct 30 14:14:31 Candidate: 1:1.0.5-3+0m5 Oct 30 14:14:33 Version table: Oct 30 14:14:34 *** 1:1.0.5-3+0m5 0 Oct 30 14:14:36 500 https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Packages Oct 30 14:15:04 hm Oct 30 14:15:12 IroN900:~# busybox bzip2 --help Oct 30 14:15:14 bzip2: applet not found Oct 30 14:15:23 hmm Oct 30 14:15:29 I just ran "busybox" Oct 30 14:15:36 and in that command list, bzip2 existed Oct 30 14:15:45 hmm Oct 30 14:15:49 hmmm, wait Oct 30 14:16:03 i have the busybox-power package, or whatever it was named Oct 30 14:16:08 that installed a newer version of busybox Oct 30 14:16:09 HAH Oct 30 14:16:17 right :p Oct 30 14:16:41 maour: apt-cache search bzip2 Oct 30 14:16:47 BusyBox v1.19.2 (Debian 1.19.2power1) multi-call binary. Oct 30 14:16:51 etc Oct 30 14:17:47 only reason messybox got not nuked off my device to next galaxy is I suspect sysinit will still need it Oct 30 14:18:01 :p Oct 30 14:18:12 Rarely uses it, changed my default shell to bash Oct 30 14:18:23 but at least it's more useful than the maemo version Oct 30 14:18:43 s/maemo/vanilla/ Oct 30 14:18:43 FIQ meant: but at least it's more useful than the vanilla version Oct 30 14:19:07 sorry , i don't undrestand repositories! i have extra-devel but what is this ? Fremantle Extras-devel free armel Oct 30 14:19:14 which was enough of good reason for me to not replace it Oct 30 14:19:27 again rgarding initscripts Oct 30 14:19:30 components? which i have free and non-free on my catalogues Oct 30 14:20:01 err yup Oct 30 14:20:06 it seems there isn't any entry named armel ! Oct 30 14:20:26 huh? Oct 30 14:20:39 armel looks odd, no idea where from you got that Oct 30 14:20:48 http://maemo.org/packages/view/nitdroid-installer/ Oct 30 14:20:53 Repository Oct 30 14:20:54 maybe from: [15:04:27] 1: N900 can't run i386 packages, it's an armel device Oct 30 14:21:00 *cough* Oct 30 14:21:39 maour: what do you expect from NITDroid? Oct 30 14:21:49 to install android on my device Oct 30 14:21:52 n900 Oct 30 14:21:54 don't expect it to be your main OS of use Oct 30 14:21:56 yeah, no support available from me for nitdroid Oct 30 14:22:06 sure Oct 30 14:22:17 i just want to test my Qt apps on android :) Oct 30 14:22:20 it's slow, slow and er, did i forgot.. slow! Oct 30 14:22:33 better than buying an android device Oct 30 14:22:40 and multiboot is so.... *beeep* Oct 30 14:22:51 i have meego right now Oct 30 14:22:53 dual boot Oct 30 14:22:55 maour: use the emulator Oct 30 14:23:01 in android SDK Oct 30 14:23:12 They still not fixed nitdroid to use uboot yet? Oct 30 14:23:18 it's slow, but better than NITDroid Oct 30 14:23:33 what's wrong with multiboot? Oct 30 14:23:39 not that i use any of them, just wondering :P Oct 30 14:23:42 maour: meego dualboot is sth completely different than multiboot used by nitdridiot Oct 30 14:24:11 ~maemo-multiboot Oct 30 14:24:11 i heard maemo-multiboot is deprecated, and a horrible hack. PROBLEMS WITH NITDROID/MULTIBOOT? reflash rootfs&kernel aka COMBINED Oct 30 14:24:14 let's get GRUB on the device! Oct 30 14:24:38 we got u-boot on the device Oct 30 14:25:12 grub is not exactly suited for the arm NAND boot architecture Oct 30 14:25:20 :p Oct 30 14:25:23 i was joking Oct 30 14:25:27 and u-boot is what meego uses Oct 30 14:25:47 speaking of u-boot, how does it store boot priority? Oct 30 14:25:56 while multiboot is **falshing a new kernel** :-O on each boot Oct 30 14:26:10 sounds... wrong Oct 30 14:26:45 i was pretty tired of it having MeeGo as default choose (probably due to it looking in the SD card after something bootable before looking /boot in the NAND, but i didn't have any idea of how to change it Oct 30 14:27:14 of course you could cancel the timer and do "run noloboot" Oct 30 14:27:40 but being able to change the defaults would make me more happy to keep u-boot and meego :p Oct 30 14:27:44 it's looking to uSD and there for a special file named /boot/bootmenu or whatever, and if that file esists it will read it and use the settings in there afaik Oct 30 14:28:41 even some nice menu like the one GRUB uses would be fine for me Oct 30 14:28:49 whatever Oct 30 14:29:10 check that file Oct 30 14:29:22 afaik you can have menu Oct 30 14:30:08 if only I can find my DS... Oct 30 14:30:28 (what, don't you like my way of storing my SD card somewhere outside n900?) Oct 30 14:35:53 DocScrutinizer, know much about ad-hoc networking and the N900? http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1115948#post1115948 Oct 30 14:36:49 not really Oct 30 14:38:31 hm Oct 30 14:39:57 robbiethe1st: esp since I read sth about that redmond borne virus there in this post Oct 30 14:40:22 heh Oct 30 14:40:49 See, that's my problem if nothing else is. But I can't change that computer /too/ much, as it's not technically mine... Oct 30 14:56:35 hey Oct 30 14:57:55 i sent sms to wrong number which not exist and now i received messages from my operator that this number not exist non-stop. I think it's because my n900 try to send that message again and again and again. how can i stop it ? Oct 30 14:58:29 I don't think it should resend Oct 30 14:58:58 anyway wait a minute, I'll look up for you where outbox for SMS is cached Oct 30 14:59:27 k, thx Oct 30 15:00:44 /var/spool/sms/outgoing Oct 30 15:01:06 background info: http://wiki.maemo.org/PR1.2_compulsory_My_Nokia_subscription Oct 30 15:01:16 k thx Oct 30 15:01:28 yw Oct 30 15:01:31 HTH Oct 30 15:01:41 watching the sunset in class is something I'd like to do everyday :/ Oct 30 15:02:02 lol Oct 30 15:03:28 Juozapas: >>...check to see if /var/spool/sms/regs_out.txt contains an entry. If you haven't sent any other SMSes, it's a safe bet that this message scheduled to go out is the one produced by [...] << Oct 30 15:04:19 MohammadAG: which class are you attending to that steals your free tiem x) Oct 30 15:04:35 DocScrutinizer: yeah, there is an entry there Oct 30 15:04:51 i have to remove it ? Oct 30 15:04:56 my dir is completely empty Oct 30 15:05:26 so probably it's save to #> mv /var/spool/sms/outgoing/* ~/mySMSbackup Oct 30 15:05:54 so probably it's save to #> mv /var/spool/sms/outgoing/* ~/mySMSbackup/ Oct 30 15:06:10 k i will try Oct 30 15:07:43 less /var/spool/sms/regs_out.txt shows one line here, though I got no SMS problems Oct 30 15:09:05 >>If the SMS cannot be sent (no balance on SIM card, no network coverage), the SMS may still be on the phone waiting to be sent. You can check to see if there are any files in /var/spool/sms/outgoing and check to see if /var/spool/sms/regs_out.txt contains an entry. If you haven't sent any other SMSes, it's a safe bet that this message scheduled to go out is the one produced by Cherry. Removing the file in /var/spool/sms/outgoing and the Oct 30 15:09:07 entry from regs_out.txt is safe, but make a backup just in case.<< Oct 30 15:09:42 ok Oct 30 15:10:41 and... you may want to go to flight mode to accomplish this task :-D Oct 30 15:11:00 yeah, i just skip pin code Oct 30 15:11:05 so no connection to operator Oct 30 15:11:09 then reboot after you removed the cruft Oct 30 15:11:13 k Oct 30 15:11:48 bash your operator for sending back an inappropriate NAK msg Oct 30 15:12:59 there've been cases where here in Germany some guys had a 50k of SMs on their bill, due to that Oct 30 15:13:30 omg Oct 30 15:13:39 how can I avoid that ? Oct 30 15:13:48 blame your operator Oct 30 15:14:20 or maybe blame Nokia, if you're really the first one to run into a bug in maemo-SMS stack Oct 30 15:14:38 I honestly doubt that's a bug in Maemo Oct 30 15:14:50 I might test eventually Oct 30 15:15:40 for sure your SMS dispatcher shall stop NAKing same msg after a certain timeout Oct 30 15:15:54 ok, i removed entry from regs_out.txt and and moved /var/spool/sms/outgoing Oct 30 15:16:04 but I think they send an outright wrong response code Oct 30 15:16:31 err, don't mopve the whole dir, just the content Oct 30 15:16:42 but it's stupid that they take money even if the number is wrong Oct 30 15:17:16 yes, there are a number of stupidities in that, none of which they can keep up on court Oct 30 15:18:07 if they take money, they must not NAK, as evidently a SMS that costs money is a valid SMS Oct 30 15:18:20 yeap Oct 30 15:18:27 NAK is only when transmission TO them failed Oct 30 15:18:46 meaning "please resend, couldn't read you" Oct 30 15:19:18 and even this MUST stop after max say 100 tries Oct 30 15:19:36 ok, looks like it helped Oct 30 15:19:42 good Oct 30 15:20:04 now have a nice phonecall to some hotline for a but of shouting Oct 30 15:20:09 bit* Oct 30 15:20:15 ;]] Oct 30 15:21:47 fuck Oct 30 15:22:13 looks like i moved all dir /var/spool/sms/outgoing Oct 30 15:22:34 mkdir /var/spool/sms/outgoing Oct 30 15:23:09 IroN900:~# ls -ld /var/spool/sms/outgoing Oct 30 15:23:10 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 160 2011-10-29 00:48 /var/spool/sms/outgoing Oct 30 15:24:52 root; mkdir /var/spool/sms/outgoing; chmod 755 /var/spool/sms/outgoing Oct 30 15:25:14 yeah thx Oct 30 15:25:30 it already in right permissions Oct 30 15:25:37 i dont need to make chmod Oct 30 15:25:37 :-) Oct 30 15:33:13 I buyed my phone march 2009, I don't know exactly what warranty I got, but say it lasted 1½ year. Then, it breaks (yay microUSB port problem) and I got a brand new N900. What happens with the warranty then? I guess it still counts from my first N900, or would it renew itself? Oct 30 15:33:26 I guess it's the first, but I don't know how warranties work :D Oct 30 15:33:34 It's the first Oct 30 15:33:42 Yeah, like i thought then Oct 30 15:33:52 Nokia now has my n900. Oct 30 15:34:10 (USB fell off, touchscreen died, 2g modem was dodgy. Oct 30 15:34:34 Heh Oct 30 15:34:45 The USB fallin goff was my fault. Oct 30 15:34:51 And I would not have returned it for that. Oct 30 15:36:34 hm, so you have no N900 now? Oct 30 15:36:41 I have a backup one. Oct 30 15:36:48 ok Oct 30 15:37:48 If I don't manage to get a n9 from my watranty repair - which I doubt - I'll probably uif I can't get a repaired n900, be doing the sell on ebay + buy new thing. Oct 30 15:41:51 DocScrutinizer: is it normal that i still have entry in regs_out.txt? Oct 30 15:42:17 well, I have an entry in this file, yes Oct 30 15:42:26 k, thx Oct 30 15:45:35 friggin winter time :-/ Oct 30 15:47:46 * SpeedEvil breaths out, and does not quite see frost. Oct 30 15:47:53 This means it's >10.5C or so. Oct 30 16:07:15 but it's going dark here while we have 17:00 Oct 30 16:08:04 10.5°C at my window :-D Oct 30 16:08:26 to the digit Oct 30 16:08:33 decimal Oct 30 17:00:08 Hello, I'm trying to stream from my n900s cam to my computer using this little gstreamer script http://pastie.org/2783489 but I only recive very dark images, any ideas what might be wrong? Oct 30 17:02:20 bad lighting? Oct 30 17:02:34 lid closed? ;) Oct 30 17:02:45 hehe Oct 30 17:04:59 dm8tbr: I'm using the front cam to test atm, and I can see my rooms light Oct 30 17:05:16 dm8tbr: same issue with the front cam and an open lid Oct 30 17:11:05 okay I've just used a xvidimagesink to debug the issue Oct 30 17:11:30 and it looks like the signal I get from the v4l2src is bad to begin with Oct 30 17:12:28 you should use v4l2camsrc Oct 30 17:12:51 and it is xvimagesink Oct 30 17:13:17 freemangordon: yes that was a typo :) Oct 30 17:13:37 freemangordon: but I did type it correctly in the shell, I'll check the v4l2camsrc Oct 30 17:13:42 but you camerasource is incorrect Oct 30 17:13:43 ok Oct 30 17:15:10 same issue with v4l2camsrc Oct 30 19:11:59 FYI, modRana V0.29 is out, go get it from Extras-devel while it's hot! :) Oct 30 19:12:37 what is modRana? Oct 30 19:12:49 why would I want it? Oct 30 19:12:57 and why do I want it without knowing what it is?! Oct 30 19:13:08 need some kind of silent alarm Oct 30 19:13:41