**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Nov 27 02:59:57 2011 Nov 27 03:00:27 please help me out - what for was that facebook thing again? I only know I won't touch it with a 10 ft pole Nov 27 03:00:47 cold boot didn't help Nov 27 03:01:04 DocScrutinizer: it's like slow IRC Nov 27 03:01:46 more like a perverted version of tmo Nov 27 03:01:54 mhm, well I got fast IRC Nov 27 03:02:06 there's no thanks! button, there's only like button Nov 27 03:02:17 and I try to avoid tmo as much as possible Nov 27 03:02:31 :P Nov 27 03:02:36 whats wrong with tmo? Nov 27 03:02:38 lmao fb == perverted tmo Nov 27 03:02:39 awesome Nov 27 03:02:43 ~tmo Nov 27 03:02:43 tmo is probably http://talk.maemo.org, or trolls, morons, oxes Nov 27 03:02:53 and no fb is not framebuffer ;) Nov 27 03:03:11 ~cssu Nov 27 03:03:12 it has been said that cssu is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU Nov 27 03:03:36 ; I managed to do it via desktop command execution widget, profile widget ;) Nov 27 03:03:45 ~worldpeace Nov 27 03:03:47 * luke-jr emerge tcpdump Nov 27 03:03:57 dang, there goes that chance Nov 27 03:04:14 infobot: worldpeace is found only in Jesus Christ Nov 27 03:04:14 luke-jr: okay Nov 27 03:04:18 ~worldpeace Nov 27 03:04:18 from memory, worldpeace is found only in Jesus Christ Nov 27 03:04:23 merlin1991: fixed Nov 27 03:04:24 mypaint is very slow... Nov 27 03:04:34 Any other app recommended? Nov 27 03:04:50 gimp Nov 27 03:04:53 ;-D Nov 27 03:04:55 Krita Nov 27 03:05:00 KolourPaint perhaps Nov 27 03:05:14 DocScrutinizer: even bloat I think! Nov 27 03:05:24 DocScrutinizer: any tips on avoiding the USB port breaking btw? Nov 27 03:05:34 luke-jr: will have a try, thank you Nov 27 03:05:36 ~usb-fix Nov 27 03:05:36 Fixate receptacle like this: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=547991#post547991 - get the pic.zip form there http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=870017&postcount=27 for details how to deal with contact pads came off, or >>NEVER use epoxy glue!<< Nov 27 03:06:05 wtf, how often I fixed that crap?? Nov 27 03:06:10 ~usbfix Nov 27 03:06:10 [usbfix] http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater) Nov 27 03:06:10 no search result with krita and KolourPaint :( Nov 27 03:06:14 aaaah Nov 27 03:06:22 ~forget usb-fix Nov 27 03:06:22 i forgot usb-fix, DocScrutinizer Nov 27 03:06:51 ~usb-fix is see usbfix Nov 27 03:06:52 okay, DocScrutinizer Nov 27 03:07:26 ~usb-fix Nov 27 03:07:28 rumour has it, usbfix is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater) Nov 27 03:10:24 so which solution is safest? :\ Nov 27 03:12:03 Anita1: http://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control#Networking Nov 27 03:12:18 soldering Nov 27 03:12:21 ; I did it ;) working flawlessly. ;) Nov 27 03:12:25 luke-jr: ^^^ Nov 27 03:12:50 Anita1: the last one was about connections Nov 27 03:12:56 not about profiles Nov 27 03:13:10 ah, ok then, I'm all ears. Nov 27 03:17:03 "If "boolean:true" at the end, one-line notification saying "No saved connections available" appears. Maybe affects more than that? Most likely, boolean:true leads to using saved connections if there are any, and boolean:false forces to display the connection dialog. " Nov 27 03:17:15 "Connect (show change connection UI) Nov 27 03:17:16 dbus-send --system --type=method_call --dest=com.nokia.icd_ui /com/nokia/icd_ui com.nokia.icd_ui.show_conn_dlg boolean:false Nov 27 03:17:16 " Nov 27 03:17:49 I only see these related Nov 27 03:19:29 yeah, it's not as helpful as I thought Nov 27 03:19:40 uninstalled and it is still not connecting anything. great. will try dbus command now. Nov 27 03:20:25 * DocScrutinizer blames self to not have added the "switch >use wifi if available< dbus cmd" Nov 27 03:21:10 :p Nov 27 03:21:25 Anita1: this app might have seiously messed up your data accounts Nov 27 03:23:10 data accounts? Nov 27 03:23:30 internet connections Nov 27 03:24:06 tried the dbus command, connection dialog pops up, says there's no connection, my GPRS connection is not in the list. Nov 27 03:24:09 the data sets describing ways to access internet for the ICD2 connection manager Nov 27 03:24:54 I see the light. The light of re-flash. Nov 27 03:24:56 go to settings->internet->connections. See if you can tidy up your GPRS connection there Nov 27 03:25:54 there's nothing wrong there. Nov 27 03:26:04 hmm Nov 27 03:26:17 something with the guts of ICD2 is messed up Nov 27 03:27:30 Let me try to explain again, if I try to connect just after startup nothing happens, can't even choose which connection to use. But if I load wifi driver, then everything is ok, can unload wifi after that, it is just as to be. Nov 27 03:27:59 have to install AIS again, have no internet connection. great =) Nov 27 03:28:55 well, wifi driver is not supposed to get unloaded by any non-osso random app Nov 27 03:29:13 so obviously AIS messed up a lot of things Nov 27 03:29:27 probably. Nov 27 03:29:43 in a mission to do things that are not really needed or would make any sense at all Nov 27 03:30:56 seems AIS should get kicked from extras if it's there Nov 27 03:31:51 can be another thing that causes this too, I don't know when it started Nov 27 03:32:47 well, I have a non-connectable n900 now. Any idea? Nov 27 03:36:42 need the deb file, only way out here I see. How to get the deb file then? Nov 27 03:37:40 http://repository.maemo.org/extras-testing/pool/fremantle/free/a/advanced-interface-switcher/advanced-interface-switcher_0.3.8-3_all.deb Nov 27 03:38:05 http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-testing_free_armel/advanced-interface-switcher/0.3.8-3/ Nov 27 03:38:26 http://maemo.org/packages/view/advanced-interface-switcher/ Nov 27 03:39:46 what a shitty app that breaks connectivity so badly on simple uninstalling Nov 27 03:41:34 Anita1: copy to phone via mass storage mode Nov 27 03:41:48 unless that'S broken now as well ;-P Nov 27 03:42:29 the problem is not leaving user desperate for connections, problem is itself, messing up things about connections which is critical for N900 Nov 27 03:42:46 yeah. back in action now. Nov 27 03:43:32 I'm afraid I'll use it as it is now. Not even have time to report the bug :S it is 5.40am here, must sleep some time, after that need to study SOME time, damn. Nov 27 03:43:47 can you do it for me Doc? Nov 27 03:44:04 oh well, 0.3.5.1 was like 14 months ago. around that time there might have been an excuse to unload wl1251 driver Nov 27 03:44:40 do what, kick that devel' Nov 27 03:44:45 s ass about it? Nov 27 03:45:02 lol, it is up to you Nov 27 03:45:07 it is handy actually Nov 27 03:45:16 pity it caused some trouble Nov 27 03:45:26 can you raise a bug for this app? Nov 27 03:46:05 there have been other apps that did something pretty useful but alas the wrong way. Sometimes devels are interested, sometimes not Nov 27 03:47:21 ok now it refuses to open settings window. truly buggy app. Nov 27 03:47:36 in this case I would need to install the crappy app to get to know what it does and how it does that, or I had to study the friggin sourcecode to the last line. Can't see any of both happening in the near future Nov 27 03:47:54 well, gotta go now. Thanks for all your help :) Nov 27 03:48:00 yw Nov 27 03:48:04 this app has an developer, right? Nov 27 03:48:06 *a Nov 27 03:48:14 good luck, and consider an occasional reflash Nov 27 03:48:28 simply sending a message should bring him to duty :p Nov 27 03:48:35 Kirill Plyashkevich Nov 27 03:48:48 yeah, I'll do reflash, but 1 week later Nov 27 03:48:58 see you next time, bye :) Nov 27 03:49:22 wit a proper backup to re-install all or most of your apps, a reflash is painless Nov 27 03:49:35 * DocScrutinizer waves Nov 27 03:50:56 (or most) not AIS though :-P Nov 27 03:54:50 * DocScrutinizer can do one thing though Nov 27 03:54:59 thumbs-down Nov 27 04:07:30 btw since when do pkgs need only 6 promotes (thunbs up)? and isn't there or should there be a rule that maintainers can not vote for their own pkgs? it's silly Nov 27 04:08:44 and pretentious Nov 27 04:11:25 and this friggin maemo.org/packages interface could need some maintenance - it takes like 120s after clicking "send" on a comment, and if you dare to click again during that time where page is in reload limbo, the commet gets sent multiple times :-S Nov 27 04:12:45 seems like that happened to me 3 or 4 times during last 18 months, so you'd think a) I could finally learn NOT to click again, and b) somebody could finally have fixed that issue Nov 27 05:37:14 meego:290 users, #maemo:294 users Nov 27 05:41:02 loads more loyal nokia tablet users than a mixture of various devices conglomerated users ;) Nov 27 05:42:12 #meego-handset was awesome: no post since >>one month Nov 27 05:42:24 closed that tab for good now Nov 27 05:46:37 * wiretapped pines for the 770 days Nov 27 08:15:50 How to you copy a contact's cell phone? go to the contact then edit it, then copy the phone? Nov 27 08:16:02 Too much steps involved Nov 27 08:16:35 LaoLang_cool: on n9 or n900? Nov 27 08:16:42 BluesLee: N900 Nov 27 08:17:15 the n900 has the advantage that it can import/export contacts as *vcf Nov 27 08:17:17 Sometimes I want to copy the contact's phone number from the interface of sms or phone, but I can't find a way Nov 27 08:17:35 ah okay Nov 27 08:17:46 BluesLee: oh, you misunderstood me Nov 27 08:18:10 in that cases you can click the number and it asks you if you want to add it to your contacts Nov 27 08:18:19 resp add/merge Nov 27 08:20:32 BluesLee: no the options you mentioned, it has a option to open the contact card, but will let you call/sms to the contact, no add/merge, in sms GUI Nov 27 08:23:27 oh, maybe the contact has been added as my friend Nov 27 08:24:06 I want to copy my friend's phone number, then use it in other where. Nov 27 08:24:36 The only way I find is to go to the edit gui of contacts then copy the number.... Nov 27 09:29:13 how can I browse main menu with pages instead of scroll? I've seen it somewhere, can't remember where Nov 27 09:29:37 I think it was some app that you can install Nov 27 09:42:55 hi Nov 27 09:43:43 i'm trying to get the harmattan sdk to run on my machine Nov 27 09:43:55 but xephyr stays empty Nov 27 09:44:00 any idea what this could be? Nov 27 09:48:03 ~seen jonwil Nov 27 09:48:09 jonwil is currently on #maemo (15m 38s) #meego (15m 38s) #openmoko-cdevel (15m 38s), last said: 'if you can find that, I can possibly find out more about what icd2 does with those dbus calls'. Nov 27 09:48:11 * jonwil is here Nov 27 09:48:29 jonwil, look here http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/hildon-input-method-plugins-example/trunk/files Nov 27 09:48:43 those are (almost) fully working Nov 27 09:48:54 including portrait stuff Nov 27 09:49:05 I already saw that Nov 27 09:49:14 they are ok but very limited Nov 27 09:49:28 dont do any of the special stuff libhildon-im-vkbrenderer does Nov 27 09:49:43 and here https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/?root=tips Nov 27 09:49:51 why limited? Nov 27 09:50:01 I mean those are working examples Nov 27 09:50:34 limited because they dont do the fancy stuff libhildon-im-vkbrenderer does Nov 27 09:50:47 instead of RE vkb-renderer, I think we can just re-write th functionality in in. Nov 27 09:50:50 which one? Nov 27 09:51:03 what is that fancy stuff Nov 27 09:51:05 ? Nov 27 09:51:17 not 100% sure Nov 27 09:51:34 dictionary search is not in vkb-renderer Nov 27 09:51:50 AIUI Nov 27 09:52:47 what needs to be done is an implementation of .vkb parser Nov 27 09:52:52 yeah if/when I clone that renderer I will use bits of code from hildon-input-method-plugins-examle Nov 27 09:52:58 there is more in the vkb files than you think Nov 27 09:53:06 which we already have in python Nov 27 09:53:26 best way to do vkb is to just use libimlayouts directly Nov 27 09:53:33 I have a .h file for that Nov 27 09:53:36 I know what is in .vkb files, trust me on that Nov 27 09:53:41 I also know Nov 27 09:54:22 the main thing hildon-input-method-plugins-example is missing are things to handle the correct key size and position and margin stuff from the vkb files Nov 27 09:55:10 so, what it is so special? layouts for two modes plus layout for keyboard which appear when you press blue arrow - sym Nov 27 09:55:27 btw .vkb files has support for portrait AFAIK Nov 27 09:56:05 I need to dig back into hildon-im-vkbrenderer a bit more to see what funky bits it does Nov 27 09:56:32 why, if I remember correctly button/font sizes are written in .vkb file itself, no need for calculations Nov 27 09:56:42 yes they are Nov 27 09:56:54 but hildon-input-method-plugins-example doesnt do anything with them Nov 27 09:57:10 of course they don't :) . Nov 27 09:57:13 so the logic for parsing that data and computing exact position of where to draw needs to be written Nov 27 09:57:18 yes Nov 27 09:57:29 but it is not a rocket science Nov 27 09:57:42 we have a python code already doing that Nov 27 09:57:53 almost that. Nov 27 09:58:36 also, hildon-input-method-plugins-example plugs in at a much higher level than libhildon-im-vkbrenderer Nov 27 09:58:44 sure Nov 27 09:58:57 trust me, hildon-input-method-plugins-example is good and has some stuff we can pinch Nov 27 09:59:03 but its not the magic bullet you seem to think it is Nov 27 09:59:08 no Nov 27 09:59:15 I don't think it is a magic bullet Nov 27 09:59:19 not if we want to be feature complete with libhildon-im-vkbrenderer Nov 27 09:59:35 anyhow, I plan to dig into libhildon-im-vkbrenderer soon Nov 27 09:59:35 and vkb-renderer stuf has to be implementd Nov 27 09:59:41 and finish my work on it Nov 27 09:59:46 but no need to RE it Nov 27 09:59:47 or continue Nov 27 10:00:05 just re-implement the functionality Nov 27 10:00:08 I already have most of it reverse engineered anyway Nov 27 10:00:32 wow, why didn't you tell me that yesterday when i said I am going to RE it Nov 27 10:00:48 :) Nov 27 10:01:04 well I dont have it reverse enginereed, I just have it mostly layed out in IDA :P Nov 27 10:01:24 which binary are you using arm or 386 Nov 27 10:01:28 ? Nov 27 10:01:45 x86 Nov 27 10:02:05 and does your IDA have c pseudocode analyser? Nov 27 10:02:12 x86 is easier to reverse engineer than ARM Nov 27 10:02:18 and yes I have hexrays :) Nov 27 10:02:24 yeah, i know :) Nov 27 10:23:31 heh Nov 27 10:23:40 get arm hexrays Nov 27 10:25:21 why, x86 assembler is easier than arm (or at least better known) Nov 27 10:25:41 I would get arm hexrays if I could afford the thousands of dollars it costs :P Nov 27 10:28:21 hi there, what is the connection between GPS and GSM Module ? both are not working. Nov 27 10:28:33 GPS is handled by the cell modem on the N900 Nov 27 10:28:50 there is code on the main CPU that talks to the cell modem GPS logic Nov 27 10:29:35 GPS is really really slow here, in the case of without the asistance of networking Nov 27 10:31:52 i can enable and disable the location on settings but there is no satellite icon on the top, and phone functionality is neither working . and i failed flashing and it was still on the line flashing done ... and no CMT flashed successful message . Nov 27 10:32:28 so what is it ? the hardware or the software ? (N900) Nov 27 10:33:26 If flashing is failing, that suggests a hardware problem Nov 27 10:34:19 maybe the power problem ? and i have to say that month ago i dropped it to the water(a little water on the ground) . Nov 27 10:35:13 so how can i test that if it's a hardware problem and both modules are dead or off ? Nov 27 10:42:35 There are no native land mammals on St Helena, but rabbits, rats and mice have been introduced, as well as feral cats and dogs. Nov 27 10:42:39 wow Nov 27 10:42:52 no native mammals... that's crazy :) Nov 27 10:44:12 As a result, the string tree (Acalypha rubrinervis) and the St Helena olive (Nesiota elliptica) are now extinct, and many of the other endemic plants are threatened with extinction. Nov 27 10:44:33 great.. guess no st helena martini for me ever again. damn humans. Nov 27 11:17:02 DocScrutinizer: thanks to introduce the script of searching contacts on http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=990571#post990571, if I need to search contact by cellphone number, how to modify the script? if c.get_property("cellphone") == options.nick_name: ? Nov 27 12:56:43 * jonwil has decided to abandon plans to work on Nokia Maps stuff, the Nokia Maps binary blobs are just too complex to figure out Nov 27 13:00:04 Suspected so. Nov 27 13:00:31 are you talking about n900 nokia maps? Nov 27 13:00:34 is there a way to balance the n900 volume on each ear? Nov 27 13:00:41 yes Nov 27 13:00:47 N900 nokia maps blobs Nov 27 13:01:07 cityLights: it should be same by default Nov 27 13:01:27 hi, what's the name of "get started"? I want to purge it from n900 Nov 27 13:01:38 suppose i want to test each ear? Nov 27 13:02:25 welcome-tutorial LaoLang_cool? Nov 27 13:03:18 SpeedEvil: dpkg-query --list | grep welcome doesn't show it... Nov 27 13:04:36 its called osso-startup-wizard Nov 27 13:04:56 thats the one that sets the time and language and stuff on first start Nov 27 13:05:27 oh and I finally got my N900 to join my WiFi network with wireless security turned ON Nov 27 13:05:30 YAY Nov 27 13:05:35 jonwil: oh, I need the startup-wizard Nov 27 13:06:03 what is it you want to remove then? Nov 27 13:08:31 jonwil: click the `get started' will launch a video of the introduce to N900 Nov 27 13:08:34 jonwil: I added slovak sk_SK language to /usr/share/osso-startup-wizard/sysinfo-lang.data but not working Nov 27 13:08:48 startup wizard does not see it Nov 27 13:09:01 oh that one is tutorial-home-applet Nov 27 13:09:12 hmmm, I dont know then pali Nov 27 13:09:26 I used strings to see that is in that nokia binary Nov 27 13:09:44 but I do not see hardcoded languages... Nov 27 13:09:56 it must be loaded from other config/binary file Nov 27 13:11:04 searching my n900 file dump now looking for references to de_DE (one of the stock languages) Nov 27 13:11:33 jonwil: that's it, thanks. Can osso-tutorial* be removed safely? Nov 27 13:11:49 its not osso-tutorial Nov 27 13:11:51 yes, here are 4 langs: de_DE, es_ES, fr_FR, pt_PT Nov 27 13:11:53 its tutorial-home-applet Nov 27 13:12:22 jonwil: yes, I've removed it, I also find there are pkgs named osso-tutorial* Nov 27 13:12:22 but osso-startup-wizzard always show me cs_CZ Nov 27 13:12:29 those are language packages for it Nov 27 13:12:34 ah, it's lanuages for osso-startup-wizzard? Nov 27 13:12:41 no for osso-tutorial Nov 27 13:13:02 osso-tutorial? I don't find it on my n900... where is it? Nov 27 13:13:18 wait no Nov 27 13:13:38 osso-tutorial-l10n-* are language packs for tutorial-home-applet Nov 27 13:14:43 jonwil: oh, but apt-get purge tutorial-home-applet* doesn't say they're the depends of it. Nov 27 13:15:46 they are Nov 27 13:16:33 as for references to de_DE, so far I haven't found any that could be related to osso-startup-wizzard Nov 27 13:17:00 jonwil: thank you, purging them :) Nov 27 13:17:42 actually lets search for fr_FR, less chance of false positives that way :) Nov 27 13:18:29 I'm searching for string cs_CZ in whole system... maybe I find someting Nov 27 13:18:30 Is there a easy way to purge all language packs except for English? Nov 27 13:18:41 nope, dont know of one Nov 27 13:18:55 jonwil: oh Nov 27 13:19:58 ok, 220 hits for fr_FR Nov 27 13:20:40 make that 221 :) Nov 27 13:21:15 ok, I think we can ignore those that reference hildon-input-method as those arent what we are looking for Nov 27 13:21:27 so thats some gconf stuff for h-i-m Nov 27 13:21:50 references in the repo package lists, no we can ignore that Nov 27 13:28:57 jonwil: nothing relevant to cs_CZ in maemo rootfs image Nov 27 13:29:01 pali, what do you get if you open xterm or ssh and type sysinfo-tool -g /certs/ccc/pp/default-language and sysinfo-tool -g /certs/ccc/pp/keyboard-layout and sysinfo-tool -g /certs/ccc/pp/content-region Nov 27 13:29:54 first: English (British) Nov 27 13:30:01 second: English, Dutch Nov 27 13:30:09 third: Britain Nov 27 13:31:53 now grepping my source dump[ for cs_CZ Nov 27 13:31:59 4 results so far Nov 27 13:32:30 ok, those are hildon-input-method related so we can ignore those Nov 27 13:33:08 still searching Nov 27 13:34:18 some stuff related to packaging, we can ignore that Nov 27 13:35:08 I started debuuging that f** osso-startup-wizard application Nov 27 13:35:22 usr/share/i18n_locale_resolver/im.data looks suspicious Nov 27 13:36:00 ok, no that next hit is QT, we can ignore that Nov 27 13:36:59 as does other stuff in usr/share/i18n_locale_resolver Nov 27 13:37:08 lra_language.data and lra_regional.data Nov 27 13:39:16 so the stuff in usr/share/i18n_locale_resolver and the stuff in usr/share/osso_startup_wizard seem to be where the interesting stuff is Nov 27 13:39:34 and no I dont know how to edit the stuff in i18n_locale_resolver Nov 27 13:39:36 * DocScrutinizer moos a bit Nov 27 13:39:45 because the libs in question are closed source :( Nov 27 13:44:58 jonwil: file /usr/share/i18n-locale-resolver/lra_language.data looks like that is config for that osso wizard Nov 27 13:45:04 and that file is binary :-( Nov 27 13:45:05 chem|st: could you pin http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=80392 please Nov 27 13:45:27 er make sticky? Nov 27 13:45:31 checking now for all things that read /usr/share/i18n-locale-resolver Nov 27 13:48:43 ok, the data is read by libi18n-locale-resolver.so.0 Nov 27 13:49:23 when I moved file /usr/share/i18n-locale-resolver/lra_language.data startup wizard showed me empy language list Nov 27 13:50:25 jonwil: somebody told me that binary format of locale-resolver can be extended (by open garage project) Nov 27 13:50:51 http://maemo.org/packages/view/locale-resolver-extra/ Nov 27 13:52:51 thats for diablo Nov 27 13:52:53 not fremantle Nov 27 13:53:48 interestingly libi18n has a dev package Nov 27 13:53:52 lets see what that has to say Nov 27 13:54:46 nope, that dev package doesnt help Nov 27 13:55:06 source code of that extra package is here: http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/diablo/free/source/l/locale-resolver-extra/ Nov 27 13:55:14 and maybe format is not changed Nov 27 13:59:45 doesnt appear to have changed Nov 27 13:59:54 so try playing with that package and seeing if that helps Nov 27 14:16:08 the only users of that locale data are the startup wizard, hildon-input-method-configurator and the language/regional control panel Nov 27 14:19:51 jonwil: OK, If it work, I will create fremantle package for changing that files Nov 27 14:21:29 hey jonwil, old hax0r. How about having a look into the way Nokia is managing lockcode since PR1.3? Nov 27 14:21:37 just for fun Nov 27 14:21:57 not interested in that Nov 27 14:22:06 *shrug* Nov 27 14:22:22 thought it could be fun to learn how it works now Nov 27 14:22:31 and not very hard to do Nov 27 14:25:08 what we know (IIRC) is that since PR1.3 you have to reflash both rootfs and eMMC to reset lockcode Nov 27 14:27:35 I'm curious how they implemented that, seems they would need some kind of cookie or whatever on eMMC, that gets toggled on flashing eMMC Nov 27 14:28:45 do you know which binary or binaries I would need to look at for that? Nov 27 14:28:52 tbh I have no f'ing clue what process checks lockcode on boot Nov 27 14:29:47 ok Nov 27 14:29:53 not going to look into it then Nov 27 14:29:59 :-) Nov 27 14:30:05 if I can find out the right binary to look at, I might take a look Nov 27 14:30:26 Although really I should be trying to finish as much of my work as possible before I go on holidays on the 13th of december Nov 27 14:30:31 damnit i need my new glasses to get delivered to pearle already Nov 27 14:30:40 i hate waiting on them. and all i have are 1 pair of contacts Nov 27 14:30:41 well, then we are somewhat on same page, I already phrased the strace infocation in my mind Nov 27 14:31:11 The good thing about going on holidays is that I can get even more cell tower names and IDs for my logging :) Nov 27 14:31:14 * DocScrutinizer blinds Macer with a laser Nov 27 14:31:27 since I will be talking to celltowers I have never talked to with my N900 before Nov 27 14:31:28 DocScrutinizer: i probably wouldn't see it ;) Nov 27 14:31:34 i took the contacts out Nov 27 14:31:46 in fact towers I have never talked to at all :) Nov 27 14:31:47 and am lying in bed wishing i had some damn glasses to put on Nov 27 14:31:57 since I changed carriers since I last went to this place :) Nov 27 14:33:08 Macer: your trxt-to-speech setup in N900 irc client is awesome ;-D Nov 27 14:33:51 hahahha Nov 27 14:34:01 do they have it for terminal too so i can use irssi? Nov 27 14:34:06 i'm sure that is synth chaos Nov 27 14:53:04 Macer: wait, you have text-to-speech for IRC? Nov 27 14:53:08 Macer: PENIS PENIS PENIS PENIS Nov 27 15:03:17 ok, so locale-resolver-extra means the hard-coded stuff related to language and locale can be edited now Nov 27 15:36:30 cityLights: alsamixer -c0 for adjusting your earphone balance. careful though. Nov 27 15:45:38 thanks Sicelo Nov 27 15:56:07 yw Nov 27 16:09:32 won't persist, so probably gets annoying pretty fast Nov 27 16:10:07 PA is so..... *BEEEP* Nov 27 16:10:14 :P Nov 27 16:10:32 btw, what is hildon-initscripts? Nov 27 16:11:02 improvement by hiding complexity... works nice as long as you don't need the complexity that's there for some reason Nov 27 16:11:52 as soon as your "complex requirements" are getting as complex as setting balance L/R, you start to CURSE friggin PA Nov 27 16:13:57 reminds me at uper high-end audiophile amps, where the designers had a hard time to give it a volume dial ;-P - according to paradigm "nothing is going to adulterate the pure sound" Nov 27 16:15:47 esp funny when you find all the potentiometers for the balance/treble/bass/whatnot dials behind the front cover with cut off axes so they won't come to the outside Nov 27 16:15:58 which is what PA is doing, basically Nov 27 16:54:09 hello Nov 27 16:54:21 swap on SD. Is it worth it? Nov 27 16:57:37 Maby. I'd try to get it setup to where it will use /both/ swap on SD and eMMC at once, for double the throughput Nov 27 16:57:59 i.e. alternate blocks, raid-style Nov 27 16:59:42 robbiethe1st: I am aware that you can set the priority the same however I do not know if it truly behaves like a raid. Nov 27 17:00:19 I lament the fact n900 cannot use a swapfile Nov 27 17:01:05 I think it can; remember, you can always mount a file as a loopback, so there shouldn't be a problem there Nov 27 17:02:15 May require PK, though Nov 27 17:03:00 I run nothing less! Nov 27 17:03:12 Just got compcache on the go... Nov 27 17:03:49 Is it in a repo yet? Nov 27 17:04:00 how to kill a process that just won't die? Nov 27 17:04:21 The module comes with kp49 Nov 27 17:04:30 Oh, nice! Nov 27 17:04:36 You grap rzconfigure from the repo. Nov 27 17:04:43 Nice Nov 27 17:04:52 I spunked a wad in my pants Nov 27 17:09:01 robbiethe1st: how to mount swapfile as loopback? Nov 27 17:09:15 mount -o loop /path/to/swapfile /mnt Nov 27 17:09:17 ? Nov 27 17:11:45 Filename Type Size Used Priority /dev/mmcblk0p3 partition 786424 11700 -1 /dev/loop4 partition 9992 0 -2 Nov 27 17:11:49 w00t Nov 27 17:12:09 (I will never risk partitioning an SD card again! Nov 27 17:12:46 robbiethe1st: this next shot of whisky is for you. Nov 27 17:12:52 * vi__ gulp! Nov 27 17:34:46 vi__, erm, can't find package rzconfig Nov 27 17:47:06 robbiethe1st: apologies, it is calld 'compcache-tools' Nov 27 17:47:17 also be sure to allocate a disksize that is ^2 Nov 27 17:47:50 insmod /lib/modules/current/ramzswap.ko disksize_kb=65536 Nov 27 17:47:54 for example Nov 27 20:29:25 Does anyone know how to set up the n900 as a USB router? Nov 27 20:29:56 Do you mean a USB modem? Nov 27 20:30:28 sort of, it just relays its own broadband signal Nov 27 20:30:40 here: Nov 27 20:31:04 http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_USB_router Nov 27 20:31:08 you plug it into a computer, select 'pc-suite mode, and configure it like you would any other 3g modem Nov 27 20:31:24 Is the easy way Nov 27 20:31:54 well, i dont have network-manager installed Nov 27 20:32:42 i figured it wold show up as a device on the pc Nov 27 20:32:55 wvdial, pppconfig, or plain pppd will do as well Nov 27 20:33:00