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Dec 12 03:08:04 <luke-jr> <DocScrutinizer> or check the work of err… HNZ was his nick iirc, about codec's digital parametric filters. He patched ALSA to set the register values for the digital filter
Dec 12 03:08:10 <luke-jr> DocScrutinizer: got a link?
Dec 12 06:04:12 <ucG> hello all
Dec 12 08:55:54 <RST38h> moo, ab
Dec 12 08:56:29 <ab> RST38h, meh!
Dec 12 10:57:50 <rd> my n900 screen stays black, but I can still loggin via ssh. Is there anything I can do in terms for diagnosis?
Dec 12 10:59:35 <rd> Do people expect this to be a sw or rather a HW issue?
Dec 12 11:02:09 * Sicelo^ would suspect hw, esp the ribbon
Dec 12 11:09:02 <rd> The ribbon is not part of the display, but part of the sliding cage, which contains the display, right?
Dec 12 11:09:39 <rd> I disassembled my n900 before (display was broken several months ago), is there a way to test that it is a ribbon problem?
Dec 12 11:13:16 <chem|st> rd: for example if you did not press the connector down well it might became loose, have you checked for touchscreen response?
Dec 12 11:13:40 <chem|st> front cam
Dec 12 11:14:44 <chem|st> if frontcam and touchscreen are responding the lcd is gone, if both do not respond the ribbon is gone
Dec 12 11:15:14 <chem|st> or earspeaker...
Dec 12 11:15:41 <chem|st> some stuff you can have a look at before you start dissecting
Dec 12 11:20:11 <rd> I checked the connect, I do think that this is the problem.
Dec 12 11:20:30 <rd> How would I check the frontcam or touchscreen with a black display?
Dec 12 11:20:47 <rd> would lshal have to show something for the frontcam?
Dec 12 11:22:59 <rd> earspeaker would be easy, but are you sure that they are releavent? The earspeakers are on the base device not the sliding display?
Dec 12 11:29:04 <rd> earspeaker still works
Dec 12 11:35:41 <chem|st> everything on the slide is on one connector
Dec 12 11:36:56 <chem|st> frontcam capture of a jpg and scp it from the device
Dec 12 11:38:36 <chem|st> with earspeaker I do mean the slit centered at the lefthand-side of the screen
Dec 12 11:39:49 <chem|st> led test is another thing you can try, if all these are working you need to have a look at the connector at the lcd panel
Dec 12 11:40:14 <chem|st> DocScrutinizer: is the lcd and touchscreen the same connector? cannot remember
Dec 12 11:41:20 <chem|st> ~dissected
Dec 12 11:42:43 <chem|st> ~hardware
Dec 12 11:42:44 <infobot> it has been said that hardware is http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=hardware_products. If you don't know what you need, start with an TDM400P and an FXS module.
Dec 12 11:42:54 <chem|st> lol
Dec 12 11:42:58 <chem|st> ~pictures
Dec 12 11:43:07 <chem|st> ~help
Dec 12 11:51:49 <vi__> lcd is connected to TS by ribbon.
Dec 12 11:52:24 <vi__> Which is in turn connected to the other screen junk by clicky together connector thing
Dec 12 12:23:00 <DocScrutinizer51> chem|st: yes
Dec 12 12:24:12 <DocScrutinizer51> flat ribbon connector does it all: display, touchpanel, on-board front cam, ALS, indlED, proxdet...
Dec 12 12:32:02 <rd> should that work with the frontcam (?) :
Dec 12 12:32:06 <rd> ~ $ gst-launch-0.10  v4l2camsrc device=/dev/video1 num-buffers=1 ! omx_jpegenc ! filesink location=test.jpg
Dec 12 12:32:08 <rd> WARNING: erroneous pipeline: no element "omx_jpegenc"
Dec 12 12:32:43 <rd> When switching on, the bottom left LED becomes blue, when charing, it becomes yellow and green.
Dec 12 12:33:19 <rd> wow...now even red, I have never seen red before.
Dec 12 12:33:35 <rd> at least I do not remember.
Dec 12 12:36:20 <l32606> the frontcam works when i make a skpe video call, and the led is red.
Dec 12 12:37:40 <l32606> skype...
Dec 12 12:38:48 <rd> aaah....then I switched on with my gst-launch stuff the frontcam and therefore the LED becomes red.
Dec 12 12:38:54 <rd> many thanks I32606
Dec 12 12:39:00 <rd> that all looks good then
Dec 12 12:44:18 <ruskie> hmm anyone familiar with any sub-100eur/$100 tablet with any OS that has FM radio builtin and speakers?
Dec 12 12:45:36 <Robot101> ruskie: have you considered a radio?
Dec 12 12:46:12 <rd> My frontcam definitely works (gst-launch-0.10  v4l2src device=/dev/video1 num-buffers=1 ! ffmpegcolorspace ! jpegenc ! filesink location=frontcam.jpg)
Dec 12 12:46:58 <ruskie> Robot101, yeah many... the problem is mounting and size
Dec 12 12:48:40 <rd> That means the ribbon seems to work ok ? I can hardly believe that I have to replace the display again....I switched the display of when putting it into my jacked and I switched it on again 1h later and it stayed black.
Dec 12 12:53:40 <chem|st> rd:try gst-launch  v4l2camsrc device=/dev/video1 num-buffers=1 ! video/x-raw-yuv,width=640,height=480 ! ffmpegcolorspace ! dspjpegenc ! filesink location=test.jpg
Dec 12 12:54:10 <chem|st> rd: ah ok read the other line just now...
Dec 12 12:55:16 <chem|st> rd: ripping appart my screen mount and check the connectors of lcd and stuff would be my next step
Dec 12 12:56:19 <chem|st> "bottom left LED" lol is there another LED I don't know about yet?
Dec 12 12:59:37 <rd> chem|st, not that I am aware of, just wanted to be sure that we talk about the same :-)
Dec 12 13:21:11 <vi__> is the status bar volume plugin OS or closed?
Dec 12 13:23:27 <vi__> I see it is closed -_-
Dec 12 13:23:29 <jonwil> closed
Dec 12 13:23:37 <vi__> what a totally pointless thing to keep closed.
Dec 12 13:23:52 <jonwil> probably not that hard to copy the functionality of if you know how
Dec 12 13:24:10 <vi__> jonwil: well, I dont.
Dec 12 13:24:22 <vi__> but I may have been able to modify it.
Dec 12 13:25:05 <jonwil> for the most part its making a bunch of PulseAudio calls
Dec 12 13:25:08 <jonwil> what do you want to change?
Dec 12 13:25:14 <vi__> heh.
Dec 12 13:25:38 <vi__> Iwanted it so that when I press the little icon of the speaker it would mute/unmute.
Dec 12 13:27:53 <vi__> i wish nokia would stop being such ball baggers and open all this shit up.  they have nothing to lose.
Dec 12 13:28:32 <vi__> It would not even take that much effort, just dump a tarball on rapidshare or some shit.
Dec 12 13:49:27 <mihu> Hi. On the N900 system usually /dev/mmcblk0p1 is mounted on /home/user/MyDocs. When I plug in the USB cable and "select mass storage mode", then this gets unmounted and exported via the g_file_storage gadget. Does anybody know who is doing this mounting/unmounting magic?
Dec 12 13:52:08 <rd> Does anybody know where I can get a replacement for the supertiny screws inside the n900?
Dec 12 13:54:44 <rd> aaah....ebay...http://www.ebay.de/itm/Original-Nokia-Schrauben-10-Stuck-N900-M1-4-x-2-8-Black-/260746377499?pt=Handy_Zubeh%C3%B6r&hash=item3cb5b1f91b
Dec 12 13:59:32 <vi__> mihu: osso_mount_mmc
Dec 12 13:59:39 <vi__> osso_umount_mmc
Dec 12 13:59:46 <vi__> they are scripts
Dec 12 14:00:02 <vi__> search tmo for thread called crazy mounting shit everywhere
Dec 12 14:00:49 <vi__> http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=80562
Dec 12 14:02:10 <mihu> vi__:  Ah, you're the man. Thank you very much. 
Dec 12 14:04:16 <vi__> just payin' it forward bro.
Dec 12 14:15:47 <mihu> I have manually installed an application via "dpkg -i". How can I tell the "launcher" (Is it called the launcher?) to update the icon cache, so that the application icon is displayed correctly?
Dec 12 14:23:41 <vi__> reboot
Dec 12 14:23:58 <vi__> killall hildon-desktop
Dec 12 14:24:16 <vi__> but dont blame me if all yer widgets go awol
Dec 12 14:33:41 <mihu> vi__: "killall hildon-desktop" did the trick. Looks a little bit weird for a few seconds but then the desktop comes up again and the icons are loaded. Thanks again!
Dec 12 14:44:26 <Macer> lol
Dec 12 17:33:31 <vi__> why can I not wget links for files hosted on TMO
Dec 12 17:33:36 <vi__> what a worthless pile of shit
Dec 12 17:33:48 <vi__> You would think TMO would be unix friendly
Dec 12 17:34:02 <vi__> useless sack of piss tmo
Dec 12 17:36:24 <HyperSnyper> just a tad angry about that ?
Dec 12 17:41:51 <HyperSnyper> attachments work ok for me aslong as i set output name > wget -O faircrack.tar.gz "http://talk.maemo.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=17384&d=1296530350"
Dec 12 18:04:49 <r00t|home> <vi__> why can I not wget links for files hosted on TMO
Dec 12 18:04:54 <r00t|home> care to explain what happens if you try?
Dec 12 19:00:29 <DocScrutinizer51> ~botsnack
Dec 12 19:00:30 <infobot> DocScrutinizer51: aw, gee
Dec 12 19:15:03 <badcloud_> any media player actually pauses on (incomming) call instead of muting?
Dec 12 19:19:14 <badcloud_> man, for 281 people, this channel is pretty comatose
Dec 12 19:24:16 <Sicelo> heh. anyway, i don't know answer to your question. stock media player doesn't pause? :/
Dec 12 19:25:18 <badcloud_> Sicelo: seems to just mute (doesn't pick up from before)
Dec 12 19:30:35 <badcloud_> ok, it does work with gsm
Dec 12 19:30:45 <badcloud_> not with skype
Dec 12 19:31:44 <Sicelo> aha.. i thought so. just that my N900 is calibrating right now.. so i couldn't confirm
Dec 12 19:32:18 <badcloud_> weird... well, thanks
Dec 12 19:38:20 <Sicelo> interesting that N900 correctly shows status for contacts as away. but u can't set yourself away :(
Dec 12 19:40:12 <badcloud_> Sicelo: huh, hadn't noticed that before
Dec 12 19:41:11 <badcloud_> I found this but don't know where the port settings are for skype http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=7493&page=2
Dec 12 19:41:43 <badcloud_> not the same problem but hell, I'll try anything
Dec 12 19:48:21 <Sicelo> at least looks like someone tried to hack the Away status :) http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=59856
Dec 12 19:52:50 <badcloud_> cool
Dec 12 19:54:12 <badcloud_> not that useful for me tho
Dec 12 19:58:33 <Sicelo> sorry bud. selfish me
Dec 12 20:32:06 <StyXman> if I have an existing debian package, what is the bers way to port it?
Dec 12 20:32:12 <StyXman> best*
Dec 12 20:39:48 <r00t|home> StyXman: install qemu?
Dec 12 20:40:38 <StyXman> r00t|home: I have it
Dec 12 20:40:48 <StyXman> qemu-system-arm
Dec 12 20:40:54 <r00t|home> no
Dec 12 20:40:59 <StyXman> I tried to boot the zImage and ...
Dec 12 20:41:01 <StyXman> no?
Dec 12 20:41:14 <r00t|home> if you want to run a binary debian package on your phone, install qemu-i386 on your phone...
Dec 12 20:41:28 <StyXman> no, that's not what I mean
Dec 12 20:41:49 <StyXman> I want to start packaging some soft already available in debian for maemo
Dec 12 20:42:48 <r00t|home> http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo+scratchbox ?
Dec 12 20:43:24 <StyXman> ah, I see a porting section in the developer doc
Dec 12 21:02:59 <Pali> ping DocScrutinizer
Dec 12 21:04:00 <Pali> I successfully cold-flashed NOLO image without flasher
Dec 12 21:04:10 <Pali> I patched pusb
Dec 12 21:05:17 <Pali> I have only one problem: flasher send 12byte which is different for other versions of secondary image
Dec 12 21:05:38 <Pali> first 4 is size, but last 8bytes I do not know what means...
Dec 12 21:06:50 <Pali> and coldflashing really flash NOLO image into nand memory
Dec 12 21:06:58 <Pali> it is not only boot via USB
Dec 12 21:46:55 <Sicelo_> hmmm, looks like there is away by default actually... by adding a new status in the status menu
Dec 12 22:39:19 * SpeedEvil just ordered a new battery for his n900. Two weeks talk-time. 
Dec 12 22:40:22 <DocScrutinizer> haha, I just got an "official" (HAM) update for cbrpager from 0.9.30-1 auf 0.9.30-1 (SIC!). Size needed: 0k, who might have guessed :-P
Dec 12 22:40:38 <SpeedEvil> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/380351933464
Dec 12 22:54:04 <DocScrutinizer> ~seen javispedro
Dec 12 22:54:09 <infobot> javispedro <~javier@Maemo/community/contributor/javispedro> was last seen on IRC in channel #harmattan, 2d 4h 1m 41s ago, saying: 'I want my VGA card back'.
Dec 12 23:38:19 <luke-jr> <DocScrutinizer> or check the work of err… HNZ was his nick iirc, about codec's digital parametric filters. He patched ALSA to set the register values for the digital filter
Dec 12 23:38:21 <luke-jr> DocScrutinizer: got a link?
Dec 12 23:43:24 <DocScrutinizer> sorry, nope
Dec 12 23:44:20 <DocScrutinizer> but I guess in chanlogs you could find sth
Dec 12 23:44:52 <DocScrutinizer> or on tmo
Dec 13 00:05:32 <luke-jr> DocScrutinizer: can't find any reference of it via Google :/
Dec 13 00:10:38 * luke-jr wonders what happens to TMO when Nokia stops paying for maemo.org
Dec 13 00:11:52 <merlin1991> luke-jr: a fund raiser? :D
Dec 13 00:14:24 <Macer> lol
Dec 13 00:14:44 <Macer> luke-jr: depends on what nokia wants to do with it
Dec 13 00:15:01 <Macer> either give it to "the community" or keep it and give people the finger :)
Dec 13 00:15:04 <Macer> webos opensource!
Dec 13 00:15:05 <Macer> woo!
Dec 13 00:15:16 <Macer> too bad the n900 hw still isn't open
Dec 13 00:15:24 <Macer> then we could  have webos on the n900!
Dec 13 00:15:31 <luke-jr> Macer: Gentoo will get there first :D
Dec 13 00:15:35 <Macer> probably
Dec 13 00:15:37 <Macer> which is sad
Dec 13 00:15:46 <Macer> nokia with their old hardware
Dec 13 00:15:51 <Macer> :) not letting it go to the public
Dec 13 00:15:56 <Macer> actually. it is probably more ti than nokia
Dec 13 00:16:11 <Macer> i am sure a lot of omap4 tech could be found in omap3
Dec 13 00:16:23 <Macer> so they are being ip bastards
Dec 13 00:16:41 <luke-jr> pretty sure TI has released everything of theirs
Dec 13 00:16:47 <Macer> you think?
Dec 13 00:16:47 <luke-jr> just not PowerVR and Nokia custom crap
Dec 13 00:16:58 <Macer> well.. ther are other things
Dec 13 00:17:00 <Macer> the gps cam etc
Dec 13 00:17:11 <Macer> and of course.. the modem :-P
Dec 13 00:17:21 <luke-jr> cam driver is open, except for firmware
Dec 13 00:17:37 <luke-jr> cam, GPS, modem aren't TI either
Dec 13 00:17:50 <Macer> so nokia is holding out
Dec 13 00:17:52 <Macer> :)
Dec 13 00:17:54 <Macer> bastards
Dec 13 00:18:43 <Macer> nokia probably lic everything else anyways
Dec 13 00:18:47 <Macer> so i'm sure it isn't them alone
Dec 13 00:18:54 <Macer> but if the n900 were wide open that would be nice
Dec 13 00:19:00 <Macer> it will never happen tho.. that isn't being realistic
Dec 13 00:19:09 <Macer> even if the n900 was 10 years old
Dec 13 00:19:26 <Macer> and the reason: because people never want to see open src developers do better than they did when they had it and turn it into something people wanted 
Dec 13 00:20:04 <Macer> wanted/want ;)
Dec 13 00:20:29 <Macer> i can see it now.. an overabundance of n900s shipped from ebay to get this new awesome portable os that nobody knew about until nokia completely opened the hardware
Dec 13 00:21:47 <Macer> living the dream i suppose
Dec 13 00:21:56 <DocScrutinizer> luke-jr: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/search?q=http://www.musicdsp.org/files/Audio-EQ-Cookbook.txt
Dec 13 00:22:04 <DocScrutinizer> MNZ
Dec 13 00:23:52 <DocScrutinizer> http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2010-09-07.log.html#t2010-09-07T00:43:14
Dec 13 00:25:40 <luke-jr> DocScrutinizer: broken links :/
Dec 13 00:26:09 <luke-jr> aha, fixed
Dec 13 00:26:36 <DocScrutinizer> *you* broke them
Dec 13 00:26:44 <luke-jr> drag and drop of them did :P
Dec 13 00:27:04 <DocScrutinizer> s/%23/#/;s/#/%23/
Dec 13 00:33:12 <luke-jr> looks like he failed :|
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Dec 13 02:35:25 <luke-jr> http://luke.dashjr.org/tmp/code/0001-Support-for-tlv320aic3x-codec-highpass-filter-needed.patch
Dec 13 02:35:41 <luke-jr> created from https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/ggit/browse.php/?p=aic34-eq;a=summary
Dec 13 02:36:25 <luke-jr> anyone know how to finish it? there's a TODO that says it will only work right at 48kHz right now… :/
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