**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Dec 14 02:59:57 2011 Dec 14 04:25:44 * luke-jr wonders if there's a way to tell cpufreq to stick to 500 MHz max except for certain conditions **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Dec 14 06:20:29 2011 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Dec 14 06:22:15 2011 Dec 14 08:05:24 Hi. What are the chances that a recent kernel (say 3.1.4) is working on the N900? Dec 14 08:06:03 Depends. Dec 14 08:06:23 If you mean the baseline kernel, AIUI it won't boot. Dec 14 08:06:36 You'll need to forward port some stuff to get it to work properly Dec 14 08:07:22 SpeedEvil: On the arm-linux mailing list, sometimes patches against rx-51 are posted. This is the N900, right? Dec 14 08:08:11 mihu, yes Dec 14 08:08:31 yes Dec 14 08:09:28 Yesterday somebody posted a patch to get USB working again. So I was under the impression that generally any recent kernel version should work, minus some stuff that might be broken. Dec 14 08:09:49 But not that important stuff must be forward ported. I'm confused. Dec 14 08:10:09 Maybe I'm wrong, and there have been efforts from the cssu or other people to forward-port stuff. Dec 14 08:10:31 SpeedEvil: I'l just give it a try and let you know the results. Dec 14 08:10:45 * SpeedEvil sighs at porting. Dec 14 08:10:54 Someone ripped out my wifi powersaving. Dec 14 08:11:11 Which works fine for me, on the grounds that it screws some people with my chipsets wifi Dec 14 08:14:09 SpeedEvil: There is no "rx51_defconfig" in 3.1.4. ... Dec 14 08:14:39 So at least you're going to need to do some work, I guess. Dec 14 08:24:56 SpeedEvil: The rx-51 board is compiled when "omap2plus_defconfig" is chosen. People have reported that this boots on a N900. But of course drivers/gpu/pvr/sgx* is missing, so booting != working system. Dec 14 08:25:15 yeah - I think that was what I meant. Dec 14 08:28:09 SpeedEvil: There is some "meego device adaptation" kernel on gitorious, where the sgx driver is included. But no work has been done since April on that. Dec 14 08:28:17 :/ Dec 14 10:23:56 http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/call_for_presentations-open_mobile_linux_at_fosdem_2012/ Dec 14 10:52:07 Hi, anyone know a way to suppress sms notifications (the small yellow things)? Dec 14 10:54:37 you mean the bar across the top Dec 14 10:54:57 or the stuff that shows up when you receive something? Dec 14 10:55:52 Both :-) Dec 14 10:56:14 not sure you can either Dec 14 10:57:22 The reason is I would like to use the N900 as an SMS gateway - just receiving SMSes and uploading them to a server. I believe the notifications will be a problem - if they pile up it will use too much memory (and I would have the manual task of removing them). Dec 14 10:57:52 why not get a usb 3g modem for that? Dec 14 10:58:37 I have figured out to suppress the notifications caused by fmms (when receiving MMSes). That one was easy (just commenting out a single line in /opt/fmms/wappushhandler.py). Dec 14 10:59:53 I like the N900 better - it is a very rugged complete solution. A 3G modem needs to be connected to a computer in order to work. Dec 14 11:15:14 Another possibility might be to use dbus to snoop on the creation of notifications - but I haven't found a way to close them by sending dbus messages. Wonder if that is possible? Dec 14 11:17:54 pfavr, the conversations widget can close them Dec 14 11:17:58 so should be possible Dec 14 11:18:01 might look into that one Dec 14 11:18:06 conversations inbox widget I think Dec 14 11:34:43 Thanks! Dec 14 13:48:08 * DeRbi  ::::::::::::::::> WWW.MEGA-HD.ORG <:::::::::::::::: {{{{{{{{{{ The best FREE High Definition movies, videos, FREE SOFTWARE }}}}}}}}}}  Dec 14 13:53:18 bored DeRbi ? Dec 14 13:53:29 someone should probably ban or something Dec 14 15:10:13 there is this feature: if alarm starts ringing and you turn the phone, alarm stops... any way to disable that? Dec 14 15:35:13 i'm sure there is antifa. but i use EvilAlarm for cases like that Dec 14 15:35:41 any modest hackers around? Dec 14 15:37:10 Sicelo thanks alot for your answer :) just what i needed :) Dec 14 15:37:44 yw Dec 14 15:40:50 ping jacekowski Dec 14 15:50:05 ~seen jacekowski Dec 14 15:50:15 jacekowski is currently on #maemo, last said: 'yeah, dependencies'. Dec 14 15:59:47 ping DocScrutinizer Dec 14 16:00:40 Pali: a minute max Dec 14 16:01:05 I RE cold flashing Dec 14 16:01:14 when you have a time, write me Dec 14 16:01:38 I need some help Dec 14 16:01:42 in 2h maybe Dec 14 16:01:47 ok Dec 14 16:01:47 ok Dec 14 16:02:02 bbl Dec 14 16:13:28 ping X-Fade Dec 14 16:14:14 ~seen X-Fade Dec 14 16:14:22 x-fade is currently on #maemo #harmattan #meego. Has said a total of 26 messages. Is idling for 14m 13s, last said: 'pawky: yes'. Dec 14 16:20:38 Pali: ? Dec 14 16:21:05 jacekowski, I RE cold flashing and I published my tool Dec 14 16:21:15 But I have one problem Dec 14 16:21:26 hmm Dec 14 16:21:32 have you heard about AAA Dec 14 16:21:46 no, what is AAA? Dec 14 16:21:55 hmm Dec 14 16:21:58 let me find it Dec 14 16:22:07 0xffff Dec 14 16:22:23 I know this Dec 14 16:22:30 but it does not support cold-flashing Dec 14 16:22:41 this is reason why I RE that flasher protocol Dec 14 16:23:06 problem is that flasher-3.5 send before secondary image 16 bytes of something... Dec 14 16:23:39 first 4 was still same, second 4 is secondary image size, and last 8 I do not know Dec 14 16:23:40 hmmm Dec 14 16:23:49 checksum Dec 14 16:23:57 sounds like crc32 Dec 14 16:24:02 but that last 8 was same for one secondary image Dec 14 16:24:12 crc32? Dec 14 16:24:23 hmm, maybe not crc32 Dec 14 16:24:36 8 byte checksum Dec 14 16:24:40 let me think about it Dec 14 16:24:44 do you have an example Dec 14 16:25:14 see this thread: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=80840 Dec 14 16:25:21 i don't have n900 Dec 14 16:25:26 here is source code of my tool Dec 14 16:27:55 can you send me xloader file Dec 14 16:28:41 xloader? I think that depends only on secondary NOLO Dec 14 16:29:11 when I tried to change old version of 2nd xloader flasher-3.5 still sent same that 8 bytes Dec 14 16:29:23 so? Dec 14 16:29:27 xloader is recieving it Dec 14 16:29:30 and xloader is much smaller Dec 14 16:29:35 that 8 bytes was changed only when I changed NOLO secondary file Dec 14 16:29:43 (for cold flashing) Dec 14 16:31:04 can you just send me that file Dec 14 16:31:11 i don't have flasher or anything on this laptop Dec 14 16:31:34 Pali: could that be just image length? Dec 14 16:31:47 not 8 bytes long Dec 14 16:31:52 and besides, lenght is somewhere else Dec 14 16:31:55 no image size is second 4 bytes Dec 14 16:32:15 hmm, that limits it to 4Gbytes Dec 14 16:32:16 then some kind of checksum, yep Dec 14 16:33:56 Pali: md5 is 8 bytes Dec 14 16:34:28 err, forget my last msg Dec 14 16:35:01 128bits Dec 14 16:35:47 can anybody send me that xloader file Dec 14 16:37:07 it is NOLO secondary image (not xloader) Dec 14 16:37:37 Pali: does nolo send any response after these 8 bytes but before image itself is sent? Dec 14 16:38:08 ehh Dec 14 16:38:11 i want xloader Dec 14 16:38:16 2nd.bin Dec 14 16:38:34 slonopotamus_: not NOLO, but 2nd x-loader Dec 14 16:38:43 small iirc 19kB file Dec 14 16:38:57 and yes, it sent 4 bytes Dec 14 16:40:39 Pali: are these 8 bytes sent separately from image size? Dec 14 16:40:53 no Dec 14 16:41:00 Pali: i mean, is there a response from device between size and these bytes? Dec 14 16:41:05 I must send 16bytes in one sequence Dec 14 16:41:26 i see. so, it must be only based on image Dec 14 16:41:27 response after 16bytes Dec 14 16:41:42 slonopotamus_: see my source code Dec 14 16:41:48 and they're different for different images? Dec 14 16:42:08 do not know Dec 14 16:42:19 I can check it later Dec 14 16:42:46 Pali: could that be image version? i saw my n800 rejecting initfs if it was older than already flashed one Dec 14 16:44:03 and where should be that image version stored? Dec 14 16:45:49 dunno. does flasher read image contents before sending header to device? Dec 14 16:46:01 that sequence is not in secondary itself Dec 14 16:46:10 I do not know Dec 14 16:46:32 I used only ltrace + patched libusb for debugging Dec 14 16:46:45 you can strace flasher Dec 14 16:47:06 and there is memset(ptr, 0, 16); usb_lk_write(..., ptr, ...); Dec 14 16:47:38 strace or ptrace does not show reading file between memset and usb_...write Dec 14 16:47:54 *ltrace Dec 14 16:48:29 I think flasher load file from disk to memory and then start flashing... Dec 14 17:00:48 Pali, that's true Dec 14 17:00:54 NOLO does the actual flashing Dec 14 17:01:06 flasher just copies bytes over and reads status messages back Dec 14 17:03:24 MohammadAG: this is cold flashing when NOLO does not exists :-) Dec 14 17:03:47 how would NOLO flash if it didn't exist Dec 14 17:03:53 flasher itself NEVER does flashing Dec 14 17:04:09 flasher send data over usb Dec 14 17:04:39 flasher just copies bytes over and reads status messages back Dec 14 17:04:50 yes, this is true Dec 14 17:06:13 MohammadAG: yes, but it sends checksums and whatnot Dec 14 17:06:26 jacekowski, but it doesn't do the actual flashing Dec 14 17:06:40 also, flasher can say the image is fine, but NOLO may fail midway Dec 14 17:39:31 haha, I can tell the total activity on irc during last 9h by looking at my battery icon :-D Dec 14 17:40:57 tody is's only down to 50%, on other days it's been almost flat Dec 14 18:23:07 jacekowski, did you find out something about that 8 bytes? Dec 14 18:53:08 Мы Dec 14 20:51:56 Pali: ping Dec 14 20:52:18 DocScrutinizer: pong Dec 14 20:52:51 can you help me with cold flasher? Dec 14 20:52:53 cold flashing Dec 14 20:53:05 maybe I can, let's see Dec 14 20:53:23 see log with jacekowski Dec 14 20:53:38 or TMO thread or source code Dec 14 20:53:58 what can flasher send? that 8 bytes? Dec 14 20:58:44 Pali: AIUI Nokia used standard dfu format for flashing. dfu is defined in USB specs Dec 14 20:58:57 maybe you find some hints in there Dec 14 20:59:14 but I'd suspect it's a checksum over the image to be sent next Dec 14 20:59:46 what happens when you send the "wrong" 8 bytes there? Dec 14 20:59:58 nothing Dec 14 21:00:04 black screen Dec 14 21:00:09 mhm Dec 14 21:00:21 NOLO wont boot Dec 14 21:00:42 I need restart device and cold flash again Dec 14 21:01:32 I guess it's a checksum (crc32, md5sum, whatever) and xloader compares the 8 bytes sent with what gets loaded to RAM, and refuses to start that RAM code when checksum is incorrect Dec 14 21:02:05 first 2 parts are probably start addr and length Dec 14 21:03:06 Dec 14 21:03:33 s/staraddr/destination-addr/ Dec 14 21:03:50 first 4 bytes are same for all images, second 4 bytes are size and last 8 unknown Dec 14 21:04:02 I think first is not startaddress but type of command Dec 14 21:04:28 hmmm, maybe Dec 14 21:04:30 flasher send two X-Loader commands: 1. ping; 2. sending NOLO Dec 14 21:04:44 ping is: 0x6E, 0x32, 0x01, 0x63 Dec 14 21:04:55 :nod: Dec 14 21:04:57 send NOLO is: 0x6E, 0x32, 0x02, 0x63 Dec 14 21:06:11 Now I published LD_PRELOAD library for Nokia flasher-3.5 which show that magic 8 bytes Dec 14 21:06:13 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=80840 Dec 14 21:07:14 it owerwrite function usb_bulk_write and show magic bytes Dec 14 21:07:15 hah, you evil HAX0R Dec 14 21:07:19 :-D Dec 14 21:09:05 DocScrutinizer: one other question: Is there any TI omap pdf where is written format of image (for cold-flashing)? Dec 14 21:09:27 nokia cold flashing seems to be same as on TI boards Dec 14 21:09:39 Pali: might I suggest doing a breakpoint where you print out the magic, and looking at the stack? Dec 14 21:09:56 sure there's sth about ROM-boot and what format it expects when booting from serial or USB Dec 14 21:10:00 sending 2nd x-loader image is same in flasher-3.5 and in pusb (for flashing beagleboard?) Dec 14 21:10:27 luke-jr: Yes, I will start investigating flasher-3.5 asm code... Dec 14 21:10:57 DocScrutinizer, I was unable to find something about that format... Dec 14 21:11:10 e.g. how it is signed... Dec 14 21:11:42 luke-jr: but now my n900 has empty battery... I must wait Dec 14 21:11:44 http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.arm.doc.faqs/ka3721.html Dec 14 21:11:53 >_< Dec 14 21:12:03 might have sth (not that particaulr page) Dec 14 21:12:54 http://www.omappedia.org/wiki/Bootloader_Project <-this one should help Dec 14 21:15:09 I'd like to know how is our x-loader signed Dec 14 21:15:52 how omap check image signature Dec 14 21:16:05 anyone here have bt kbd+mouse working? Dec 14 21:17:07 http://www.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbudocumentcenter.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12667 <- for sure has the docs you asked for, you just need to find them Dec 14 21:19:06 it's called TRM (Technical Reference Manual) in TI speak Dec 14 21:22:25 bbl, semi-afk Dec 14 21:25:17 hey, i have a couple of icons of uninstalled apps that won't budge Dec 14 21:25:24 how do i remove them from view Dec 14 21:25:26 ? Dec 14 21:30:27 rm the corresponding .desktop files in /usr/share/applications/hildon/ Dec 14 21:41:08 Pali: AIUI xloader has either a header or a trailer consisting of the checksum across the code bytes encryped by some sort of pgp 'secret' key. ROMboot tries to decrypt that with the 'public' key in TPM, and then checks if the decrypted checksum is identical to what the ROMboot calculated during download of the xloader image Dec 14 21:42:09 DocScrutinizer51, where did you found it? Dec 14 21:42:36 dedution Dec 14 21:42:51 deduction Dec 14 21:43:10 do you think that Nokia N900 has own ROMboot? Dec 14 21:43:21 or is same as in other TI devices? Dec 14 21:43:29 same Dec 14 21:44:10 so this should be somewhere documented I think Dec 14 21:44:39 it is Dec 14 21:53:17 hm Dec 14 21:53:43 has CSSU modified the reply line @ mail? Dec 14 21:53:53 because it looks weird as now Dec 14 21:54:12 partially swedish and english mixed :p Dec 14 22:40:24 DocScrutinizer: in nokia flasher-3.5 I think I found loop which fill that magic bytes Dec 14 22:40:58 can sombody help me what doing this x86 asm instruction? movzbl (%eax),%eax Dec 14 22:41:32 and what is doing this? mov 0x8057b40(,%eax,4),%edx Dec 14 22:44:11 move Z branch if less? Dec 14 22:44:16 no clue Dec 14 22:49:37 movzbl: zero-extends byte to long Dec 14 22:50:01 guys i am trying to download or save files on my n900 and it shows the message 'Not Allowed' . i think its a problem with the file system because i was unraring an archive on my n900 earlier and it froze so i had to remove the battery. Dec 14 22:50:07 is there any fix? Dec 14 22:51:56 is it possible that movzbl (%eax),%eax does write the last byte of the address to the address itself? Dec 14 22:52:30 MOVZBL Move Zero-Extended Byte to Long Dec 14 22:52:38 from http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/references/macvax/op-codes/Instructions/movz.html Dec 14 22:58:54 For MOVZBL, the low 8 bits of the destination are replaced by the source operand. the top 24 bits are set to 0. The source operand is unaffected. Dec 14 22:59:09 lxp1, you are right Dec 14 22:59:41 and what does this means? mov 0x8057b40(,%eax,4),%edx Dec 14 22:59:49 how do i manually delete a stubborn app that refuses to vanish? which directories do i need to look in other than /usr/bin ? Dec 14 23:04:02 yeah it may be correct, but maybe i swapped src/dst, depends on what assembler syntax it is Dec 14 23:04:22 syntax is gcc (GAS) Dec 14 23:05:21 okay then it is wrong Dec 14 23:06:36 then it does somthing like this in c similar syntax: %eax = (char) *(%eax) Dec 14 23:06:59 ok Dec 14 23:07:21 eax = (*eax) & 0xFF; Dec 14 23:07:22 which makes a bit more sense than the other variant Dec 14 23:07:40 yes you are right Dec 14 23:08:01 simple dereferentiation Dec 14 23:08:58 before eax has an address pointer, after it has the value of that addr storage Dec 14 23:09:26 ok, and what is this? movzbl %al,%eax Dec 14 23:09:35 what is register %al? Dec 14 23:09:52 nfc Dec 14 23:09:54 it references the lower bits of %eax Dec 14 23:09:55 I did not see %al before Dec 14 23:09:58 adress level? Dec 14 23:10:11 that means the upper bits stay the same as they are Dec 14 23:10:17 accu lower? Dec 14 23:10:56 yeah it should be the lower 8bit if i remember correctly Dec 14 23:11:14 al and ah? Dec 14 23:11:37 accu lower 8bit, accu higher 8 bit? err 16 maybe Dec 14 23:11:45 ah should be eax[15:8] Dec 14 23:11:59 yes i think so Dec 14 23:12:31 but if you write to %al or %ah you don't modify the other bits of the accu register (%eax) Dec 14 23:13:26 but in this case you only read from it so it is similar to eax = eax & 0xFF Dec 14 23:14:37 in objdump is this: "movzbl (%eax),%eax movzbl %al,%eax" Dec 14 23:15:05 so both instruction do only "eax = *eax & 0xFF"? Dec 14 23:15:34 no the first does eax = *eax & 0xFF the second does eax = eax & 0xFF Dec 14 23:15:52 but it doesn't really make sense to do this... Dec 14 23:16:02 so you just could skip the second line Dec 14 23:17:18 do you still want to know what mov 0x8057b40(,%eax,4),%edx does? Dec 14 23:17:24 yes Dec 14 23:18:44 General form of memory address references: Dec 14 23:18:44 ADDRESS_OR_OFFSET(%BASE_OR_OFFSET, %INDEX, MULTIPLIER) Dec 14 23:18:45 FINAL ADDRESS = ADDRESS_OR_OFFSET + %BASE_OR_OFFSET + %INDEX * MULTIPLIER Dec 14 23:19:24 so that means edx = 0x8057b40 + %eax * 4 Dec 14 23:19:51 ok, thanks! Dec 14 23:23:25 was Pali = power kernel? Dec 14 23:26:42 guys i am trying to download or save files on my n900 and it shows the message 'Not Allowed' . i think its a problem with the file system because i was unraring an archive on my n900 earlier and it froze so i had to remove the battery. is there any fix? Dec 14 23:43:18 hi anybody here ? Dec 14 23:44:15 no Dec 15 00:04:59 anyway there is a N900 in lumina 710 shell... Dec 15 00:19:02 I guess maemo is the best os for multi-task support! Dec 15 00:19:34 jiero: ? you managed to get maemo running on lumina? Dec 15 00:42:47 no Dec 15 00:43:17 chem|st: damnit Nokia1 I just "hope" :S Dec 15 00:52:21 Why did you say N900 in Lumia 710 shell? Dec 15 00:52:44 holy crap Dec 15 00:52:53 drained my N900 battery to 0% cuz I forgot XD Dec 15 00:53:00 and just managed to plug it in in time Dec 15 00:53:07 without bme? Dec 15 00:54:51 ShadowJK: yeah, do I need BME for something? Dec 15 00:55:10 no I was just wondering which measurement of 0 you used Dec 15 00:56:06 charge21.bash Dec 15 00:56:08 :P Dec 15 00:56:29 2 mAh Dec 15 00:56:59 lol Dec 15 00:57:01 (and this is while compiling PyKDE) Dec 15 00:57:37 (even when calibrated, it's a guess below 6%) Dec 15 01:26:02 ShadowJK: 2 mAh is also a guess? Dec 15 01:26:26 yeah :P Dec 15 01:27:21 The guess part is an assumption that at 3248mV there'll be 6% left until ~3000mV which is considered to be 0, though the hardware shutdown is around 2800mV actually, and the cellular modem stops working at around 3100... Dec 15 01:28:04 Whether there's actually 6% left until modem stops working, or until the entire device dies, is just an assumption/guess :P Dec 15 01:32:36 lxp1, thanks for help Dec 15 01:33:11 DocScrutinizer, now I know how flasher got that 8 bytes :D Dec 15 01:33:57 I found function which return 32bit int from array in flasher-3.5 Dec 15 01:34:22 first is called that function for secondary image Dec 15 01:34:57 and returned 4bytes is added to array (first 4 - header, second size) Dec 15 01:35:28 and that function is called on 12bit array (header, size, output from first call) Dec 15 01:36:08 *12byt Dec 15 01:36:32 and returned 4 bytes are last 4 bytes for that stupid nokias magic... Dec 15 01:37:12 So now RE coldflashing is done :-) Dec 15 01:38:37 :) Dec 15 01:38:52 Pali: were you = power kernel too? Dec 15 01:39:14 luke-jr: what? Dec 15 01:39:31 Pali: you maintain power kernel or not? Dec 15 01:39:41 yes Dec 15 01:40:13 Pali: are you interested in patch to add highpass filter (so speakers don't blow up)? Dec 15 01:40:41 you can sent me it, I will look at it Dec 15 01:40:50 where at? Dec 15 01:41:19 http://luke.dashjr.org/tmp/code/0001-Support-for-tlv3 Dec 15 01:41:20 err Dec 15 01:41:23 http://luke.dashjr.org/tmp/code/0001-Support-for-tlv320aic3x-codec-highpass-filter-needed.patch Dec 15 01:41:35 Pali: still want me to email it? Dec 15 01:41:43 its ok Dec 15 01:45:19 Pali: would be nice if it could be made to work at all kHz, and/or disable kHz it doesn't work at entirely, but I don't know how to do either Dec 15 02:02:03 shit, that magic bits are really crc32.... Dec 15 02:02:36 lulz Dec 15 02:02:51 first crc32 checksum is for image data Dec 15 02:03:12 :) Dec 15 02:03:27 and second for: 4byte header, 4byte size, 4byte first checksum Dec 15 02:04:21 why nokia added checksum for 12byt message?? Dec 15 02:05:17 in order the be really really sure? Dec 15 02:05:20 hi i have reinstalled my n900 with a custom rom and need to reistall all my apps , i can not find the name of the apps that allow to choose between cam or flashlight when opening the cam lid Dec 15 02:05:38 16bytes init message it: 4bytes header, 4bytes image size, 4bytes crc32 of image, 4bytes crc32 of first 12 bytes Dec 15 02:05:42 "custom rom" ? sounds evil Dec 15 02:06:09 merlin1991 bah it is just a backup with some app and shortcut added Dec 15 02:06:17 troulouliou_dev: I belive the name is Camera Lens Launcher Dec 15 02:06:47 package name cl-launcher Dec 15 02:07:41 merlin1991 ok checing now thanks Dec 15 02:08:10 merlin1991 and what is the name of the app that allow to manage the way the N900 connect to internet Dec 15 02:08:35 disabling 3g / bluetooth / wifi .... Dec 15 02:08:36 err that descitpion is wayyyy to amibigous Dec 15 02:08:56 it is a menu located in settings Dec 15 02:09:18 that allwo to configure all the conection like bluetooth / wifi / 3 g ... Dec 15 02:09:36 i installed it and used it for years but know can not find it again Dec 15 02:09:50 sorry, don't know that one Dec 15 02:10:31 ok np :) Dec 15 02:10:39 btw this is the rom i have installed http://pwnieexpress.com/ Dec 15 02:11:17 rofl Dec 15 02:11:44 you do realize you can do all that without installing the "custom rom" from that err suspicous page? Dec 15 02:11:45 troulouliou_dev: flashlight-extra Dec 15 02:12:30 merlin1991 yes sure to be honest i just wanted to know how they manage to shrink the font size in the shell for some apps :) Dec 15 02:12:43 some ncursed base apps Dec 15 02:13:03 I guess the have the binary send something to xterm Dec 15 02:13:12 you can adjust the font size yourself with the zoom keys Dec 15 02:13:31 SpeedEvil: I've been looking for that one but couldn't find it the right keywords :D Dec 15 02:14:18 merlin1991yes but it is stick at a size of 24 or less i think then it display already at minimum font size Dec 15 02:14:35 int this rom they have added size of 6 and 8 Dec 15 02:14:54 just haxx0r it into xterm Dec 15 02:14:56 :D Dec 15 02:15:23 I wonder how they can provide a full image of meamo5 + stuff without violating nokia copyright on the closed source parts Dec 15 02:15:56 merlin1991 don't nwo it is a backup that you install with rootbacup application at startup Dec 15 02:17:07 this is backuo is a legit rom first then it smash /opt and home/user/mydocs Dec 15 02:17:27 so i guess it is legit **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Dec 15 02:59:57 2011