**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jan 08 02:59:57 2012
Jan 08 03:07:52 <Pali> merlin1991, code is also here: https://maemo.gitorious.org/~pali/maemo-af/pali-ke-recv
Jan 08 03:09:32 <Pali> merlin1991, this fix can be in CSSU
Jan 08 07:25:06 <Estel_> ~truecrypt
Jan 08 07:25:07 <infobot> well, truecrypt is available on Maemo (fremantle) with GUI, and full support for XTS via kernel-crypto module. See: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=81435
Jan 08 10:57:58 <badcloud_> has anyone worked out the kinks in qmltube's qtmobility dep?
Jan 08 10:59:03 <badcloud_> I can't revert back to 1.1.1 because cutetube auth with youtube doesn't work for some reason
Jan 08 12:15:51 <fredddd> Robot101, I am normally here all day until late evening time (22:00 GMT) to help test.
Jan 08 12:26:07 <freemangordon> Pali, did you rebuild KP with latest patches?
Jan 08 12:26:49 <freemangordon> and BTW what is the problem with u-boot?
Jan 08 12:28:02 <Pali> freemangordon: build not yet
Jan 08 12:28:14 <Pali> I start compiling now
Jan 08 12:28:32 <Pali> u-boot draining battery
Jan 08 12:28:44 <freemangordon> aah, yeah, I remember
Jan 08 12:28:53 <freemangordon> i will try to fix it
Jan 08 12:29:12 <Pali> ok, try
Jan 08 12:29:27 <freemangordon> BTW is there a procedure to follow (i.e. how to try it?)
Jan 08 12:29:53 <Pali> some info is here: http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/u-boot.txt
Jan 08 12:29:55 <freemangordon> where is source code, etc
Jan 08 12:30:06 <freemangordon> 10x
Jan 08 12:30:10 <Robot101> fredddd: fledermaus had some more questions for you, not sure what
Jan 08 12:30:19 <Pali> source code is on https://gitorious.org/u-boot-shr/u-boot branch pali
Jan 08 12:30:55 <freemangordon> and I should clone that?
Jan 08 12:31:53 <freemangordon> Pali, do you know which is the last commit that does not drain battery?
Jan 08 12:32:25 <Pali> no idead, because I must rebased patches and mix all rx51 patches to one commit
Jan 08 12:32:38 <freemangordon> ok
Jan 08 12:32:45 <Pali> so now is rx51 support in one commit, so it is hard...
Jan 08 12:33:09 <freemangordon> ok, will try to find the bugger
Jan 08 12:33:11 <Pali> also problem could be in u-boot itself not in rx51
Jan 08 12:33:29 <Pali> try play with twl regulator code in rx51.c
Jan 08 12:33:41 <freemangordon> ok
Jan 08 12:33:55 <Pali> twl4030 regulator code in rx51.c is needed for eMMC access
Jan 08 12:34:41 <Pali> when is disabled sometime eMMC card looks like is unplugged
Jan 08 12:34:59 <freemangordon> and still drainage?
Jan 08 12:35:10 <Pali> sometimes
Jan 08 12:35:17 <freemangordon> hmm
Jan 08 12:35:33 <Pali> I do not understand, but I think that NOLO doing someting bad
Jan 08 12:36:46 <Pali> you can try restart NOLO (with flasher), restart n900 from u-boot and restart n900 before init (from bootmenu) and restarting when hildon-desktop is started
Jan 08 12:36:55 <freemangordon> well, in older versions there was no battery drain AFAIK, so I don't think it is NOLO
Jan 08 12:37:11 <Pali> in all these situations is eMMC sometimes not accesable...
Jan 08 12:37:32 <Pali> but with twl4030 regulator code working fine (at least on my n900)
Jan 08 12:38:10 <freemangordon> why is cloning so slow? dman
Jan 08 12:38:10 <Pali> old u-boot does not have relocation support in arm code and also no twl regulator support (so eMMC not working always)
Jan 08 12:38:30 <freemangordon> does it share some code with kernel?
Jan 08 12:38:30 <Pali> u-boot is big project
Jan 08 12:38:37 <Pali> I think no
Jan 08 12:40:11 <fredddd> Robot101, will he join later on?
Jan 08 12:58:32 <freemangordon> Pali, why are all those 3 voltages enabled? esp VAUX3, AIUI this is camera VDIG?
Jan 08 12:58:55 <Pali> because eMMC
Jan 08 12:59:04 <freemangordon> but why 3?
Jan 08 12:59:10 <Pali> no idea
Jan 08 12:59:19 <Pali> when I disabled some of them
Jan 08 12:59:19 <freemangordon> ahaa, who is the author?
Jan 08 12:59:28 <freemangordon> ?
Jan 08 12:59:30 <Pali> sometimes eMMC not working...
Jan 08 12:59:35 <freemangordon> ok
Jan 08 13:00:10 <Pali> I was added all 3 to code
Jan 08 13:00:45 <freemangordon> I find those by trial/error?
Jan 08 13:00:54 <freemangordon> You*
Jan 08 13:02:12 <Pali> I enabled all, then I got working eMMC. Then I tried to start disabling it and eMMC not working...
Jan 08 13:02:56 <freemangordon> ok
Jan 08 13:03:00 <Pali> look also in power twl4030 code
Jan 08 13:03:11 <Pali> it is in drivers subdir (I think)
Jan 08 13:03:14 <freemangordon> I will
Jan 08 13:03:50 <Pali> I was also plyaing here with voltages, before I got eMMC
Jan 08 13:05:30 <Pali> maybe something interesting is in rx51.h
Jan 08 13:06:08 <Pali> this code in rx51.h was not touched (it comes from first ali's rx51 port)
Jan 08 13:06:20 <freemangordon> well, I look at it, but AIUI, there is only gpio mapping
Jan 08 13:08:50 <freemangordon> Pali, one more question. If those voltages are not enabled is there a drain?
Jan 08 13:09:17 <freemangordon> Or you don't know because you cannot boot
Jan 08 13:09:33 <Pali> I do not know now, I think that sometimes I saw battery draining and sometimes not
Jan 08 13:09:50 <freemangordon> anything from powertop?
Jan 08 13:10:14 <Pali> booting is always possible with attached kernel to end of u-boot (combinated image)
Jan 08 13:10:23 <Pali> I do not know powertop
Jan 08 13:10:38 <Pali> I only monitor bq27200.sh script
Jan 08 13:18:25 <Pali> freemangordon, kernel is compiled, deb packages on standard place
Jan 08 13:18:54 <freemangordon> thanks, maybe you should announce it on TMO :)
Jan 08 13:19:08 <freemangordon> Pali, which image shall I flash for u-boot
Jan 08 13:19:15 <freemangordon> uImage or zImage
Jan 08 13:19:34 <Pali> uImage
Jan 08 13:19:41 <freemangordon> hmm, does not boot :D
Jan 08 13:19:57 <freemangordon> it is kernel, ain't?
Jan 08 13:19:59 <Pali> do not forget to create combinated.bin
Jan 08 13:20:13 <freemangordon> i followed your instructions
Jan 08 13:20:27 <freemangordon> HW rev 2204
Jan 08 13:20:31 <freemangordon> problem?
Jan 08 13:20:51 <Pali> run ./u-boot-combinated-builder.py
Jan 08 13:20:59 <Pali> it will generate combined.bin
Jan 08 13:20:59 <freemangordon> i've done that
Jan 08 13:21:03 <Pali> and boot combined.bin
Jan 08 13:21:04 <freemangordon> ahaa
Jan 08 13:21:06 <freemangordon> ok
Jan 08 13:21:21 <freemangordon> boot or flash?
Jan 08 13:21:57 <Pali> you can also boot: flasher -k combined.bin -l -b
Jan 08 13:22:18 <Pali> it does not flash image to nand
Jan 08 13:22:24 <freemangordon> yeah i know
Jan 08 13:22:51 <Pali> also you can flash it, but make sure you have battery or external charger
Jan 08 13:23:09 <Pali> without working kernel or rootfs it is not possible to charge battery
Jan 08 13:23:13 <freemangordon> why?
Jan 08 13:23:34 <Pali> becuase only BME can charge it
Jan 08 13:23:58 <Pali> and if you have less then x% NOLO will not enter to flash mode
Jan 08 13:24:06 <freemangordon> hmm, it boots then shutsdown
Jan 08 13:24:17 <ShadowJK> The hardware will only charge itself until there is enough to start system
Jan 08 13:24:33 <ShadowJK> (which is less than what nolo demands for flashing)
Jan 08 13:26:24 <freemangordon> seems my battery is flat :D
Jan 08 13:30:43 <Pali> what did you do with battery?
Jan 08 13:31:01 <freemangordon> nothing, it is my second device
Jan 08 13:31:27 <freemangordon> "development" one. And it was not charged
Jan 08 13:31:50 <Pali> ah, ok
Jan 08 13:32:30 <Pali> I have external nokia charger for these u-boot situations...
Jan 08 13:33:26 <freemangordon> me too, it booted ok with charger attached. but then hit SGX recovery bug :D
Jan 08 13:35:01 <Pali> ShadowJK, is there any info about image for omap (coldflashing)? info about 2nd x-loader image
Jan 08 13:35:37 <ShadowJK> I don't know
Jan 08 13:35:39 <Pali> I see that coldflasing is possible if battery is too low
Jan 08 13:36:08 <Pali> but then NOLO not allow to start normal flashing... (but coldflashing is possible)
Jan 08 13:40:44 <jacekowski> coldflashing is done by boot rom
Jan 08 13:40:59 <freemangordon> (nod)
Jan 08 13:45:09 <Pali> jacekowski, I know, but is there any info how to create image which can omap bootrom load & boot?
Jan 08 13:45:29 <jacekowski> yes
Jan 08 13:45:31 <Pali> what is format of that image?
Jan 08 13:45:40 <jacekowski> it's not going to work
Jan 08 13:45:44 <jacekowski> it has to be signed by nokia
Jan 08 13:45:55 <jacekowski> format of it is public tools to sign it are public
Jan 08 13:46:00 <jacekowski> nokia keys are not
Jan 08 13:46:14 <freemangordon> hmm, nolo is not signed AFAIK
Jan 08 13:46:22 <Pali> where is that public tools? I was not able to find anything
Jan 08 13:46:28 <jacekowski> 1st stage bootloader is signed
Jan 08 13:46:31 <jacekowski> nolo-xldr
Jan 08 13:46:35 <freemangordon> ok
Jan 08 13:46:37 <jacekowski> nolo-scnd isn't
Jan 08 13:46:40 <jacekowski> and that can be replaced
Jan 08 13:46:43 <freemangordon> agree
Jan 08 13:46:45 <jacekowski> and that's just raw binary
Jan 08 13:46:46 <Pali> weeks ago I worte open source cold flasher program (source code on TMO)
Jan 08 13:47:01 <Pali> but in omap docs there was nothinh about that format
Jan 08 13:47:08 <jacekowski> all you need is magic value at offsets 0x4-0x8
Jan 08 13:47:15 <jacekowski> or something like that
Jan 08 13:47:24 <jacekowski> you need that NoloSCND in it
Jan 08 13:47:27 <jacekowski> or whatever it was
Jan 08 13:47:36 <jacekowski> and xloader will load it
Jan 08 13:48:09 <Pali> NOLO image has someting like header (address where to load, NoloSCND sign, and size of image)
Jan 08 13:48:24 <Pali> but I'd like to know what is format of x-loader image, not nolo
Jan 08 13:48:38 <jacekowski> you need to look for HS docs
Jan 08 13:48:57 <freemangordon> There was some info on TI forum, can't recall where
Jan 08 13:49:02 <jacekowski> http://maemo.jacekowski.org/tools/CSST_SDP3430_v2_5_Binary_Release.zip
Jan 08 13:49:05 <jacekowski> that's signing tool
Jan 08 13:49:22 <jacekowski> can't remember where i found it
Jan 08 13:49:37 <Pali> ok, thanks
Jan 08 13:50:10 <jacekowski> it's called MLO by TI
Jan 08 13:50:13 <jacekowski> http://omappedia.org/wiki/Bootloader_Project
Jan 08 13:50:20 <Pali> if you find some docs (eg fomat), let me know
Jan 08 13:50:33 <jacekowski> but unless you have nokia keys that tool is useless
Jan 08 13:50:43 <SpeedEvil> Unless you replace the SoC
Jan 08 13:51:02 <SpeedEvil> In which case, you can upgrade speed and RAM too
Jan 08 13:51:17 <SpeedEvil> (though practiclaly, that's not happening
Jan 08 13:51:49 <jacekowski> i don't remember exactly
Jan 08 13:51:55 <freemangordon> jacekowski, is it RSA or 3DES?
Jan 08 13:52:02 <Pali> is nokia key strong?
Jan 08 13:52:07 <freemangordon> or single DES?
Jan 08 13:52:28 <jacekowski> 256bit AES from what i remember
Jan 08 13:52:55 <jacekowski> same shit as in milestone
Jan 08 13:53:01 <jacekowski> and there was a lot people trying to crack that
Jan 08 13:53:12 <jacekowski> and they had everything locked
Jan 08 13:53:15 <jacekowski> not just xloader
Jan 08 13:54:09 <jacekowski> http://and-developers.com/partitions:isw
Jan 08 13:58:06 <freemangordon> Pali, according to powertop, MPU is never powered down(100% ON), I don't know how that could be related to emmc voltage. Initial conclusion is that the problem with battery drain is not in rx51.c
Jan 08 14:01:37 <kerio> i want fremantle on a galaxy nexus :(
Jan 08 14:01:57 <kerio> i don't want to lose maemo, but the n900 is seriously old
Jan 08 14:08:28 <kevinB> Hello I bricked my Nç and has only OS X around
Jan 08 14:08:31 <kevinB> N9
Jan 08 14:08:58 <kevinB> so is it possible and how can I mount N9's partition while it s powered-off
Jan 08 14:09:06 <Sicelo> kevinB: /join #N9
Jan 08 14:10:03 <Pali> freemangordon, problem also can be in uboot code...
Jan 08 14:10:40 <ShadowJK> freemangordon; charger connected?*
Jan 08 14:18:28 <freemangordon> ShadowJK, does not matter, i've repeated tests with both connected and disconnected charger
Jan 08 14:19:28 <freemangordon> with charger connected there is huge activity on IRQ 56
Jan 08 14:19:34 <freemangordon> whoever uses it
Jan 08 14:23:37 <freemangordon> Pali, there is missing line in boot log compared to non-uboot-boot, "Disabling unused clock "sys_clkout1"". Any clue?
Jan 08 14:24:15 <Pali> freemangordon, no idea
Jan 08 14:24:24 <freemangordon> ok
Jan 08 14:24:30 <Pali> I do not know it
Jan 08 14:29:29 <kakashi__> has anybody applied speedpatch? 
Jan 08 14:29:44 <kakashi__> when I try ap-get install speedpatch - i can't get it to work 
Jan 08 14:29:51 <kakashi__> seeems like I am missing the sources 
Jan 08 14:29:56 <kakashi__> any pointers, guys? 
Jan 08 14:30:49 <badcloud_> anyone got 1.2.0 version of qmltube to work?
Jan 08 14:45:12 <Pali> freemangordon, In rx51.h is line "MUX_VAL(CP(SYS_CLKOUT1),(IEN  | PTD | DIS | M0))"
Jan 08 14:45:44 <Pali> it could be someting with that message in boot log
Jan 08 14:45:56 <freemangordon> yeah, still fighting to understand what is that suppoed to mean
Jan 08 14:46:06 <freemangordon> supposed*
Jan 08 14:48:34 <freemangordon> Pali, is there anyone we can ask for help on that?
Jan 08 14:48:52 <Pali> maybe on u-boot mailinglist
Jan 08 14:52:11 <luke-jr> badcloud_: you want Gentoo?
Jan 08 14:52:45 <luke-jr> badcloud_: have you ever installed Gentoo on a normal PC?
Jan 08 14:52:50 <luke-jr> if not, I suggest doing that in a VM first
Jan 08 14:54:11 <badcloud_> hey luke-jr 
Jan 08 14:54:28 <badcloud_> no, haven't used gentoo before
Jan 08 14:55:00 <luke-jr> yeah, set it up in a VM first ;)
Jan 08 14:57:45 <badcloud_> thanks
Jan 08 15:02:36 <freemangordon> Pali, changing the above to MUX_VAL(CP(SYS_CLKOUT1),	(IEN  | PTU | EN  | M4)) made missing dmesg line to appear, but CPU as still 100% ON and device is slow as hell. Who is the author of this rx51.h?
Jan 08 15:03:06 <Pali> freemangordon, author is ali
Jan 08 15:03:30 <freemangordon> where i can find him?
Jan 08 15:03:43 <Pali> and he wrote me, that he taken rx51.h from beagle.h 
Jan 08 15:03:57 <freemangordon> yeah, I see
Jan 08 15:05:25 <Pali> old ali code is here: http://al.robotfuzz.com/~al/maemo/u-boot/old/
Jan 08 17:12:16 <jpinx> anyone able to help me transfer a simple text file from one N900 to another by bluetooth -- they are paired ok, and synch is working but only allows transfer of contacts (all), calendar events and calendar notes
Jan 08 17:15:47 <Sicelo> jpinx: not sync. use File Managerto 'Share'
Jan 08 17:16:05 <Sicelo> s/ert/er t/
Jan 08 17:16:05 <infobot> Sicelo meant: jpinx: not sync. use File Manager to 'Share'
Jan 08 17:16:23 <jpinx> k - thanks :)
Jan 08 17:19:20 <fredddd> Robot101, do you know anything about SASL?
Jan 08 17:20:14 <Robot101> fredddd: a bit
Jan 08 17:21:00 <fredddd> Well I do not really, and I am following a mail server tutorial which suggests it.
Jan 08 17:21:08 <fredddd> Does it provide increased security for the connection from user to server?
Jan 08 17:21:22 <fredddd> I have setup a single user mail server (personal use) for myself in the past and the tutorial I used back then did not suggest it.
Jan 08 17:21:46 <Robot101> hrm... it's a standard mechanism to add pluggable authentication into various protocols
Jan 08 17:22:04 <fredddd> I plan to just use STARTTLS with my mail server. =/
Jan 08 17:22:20 <Robot101> there are SASL mechanisms (PLAIN, DIGEST-MD5, NTLM, etc) and a SASL handshake which can be included into different protocols (SMTP, IMAP, etc)
Jan 08 17:22:32 <Robot101> STARTTLS refers to setting up an encrypted channel
Jan 08 17:22:52 <Robot101> typically when you set up the encrypted channel, the server will identify itself to you using a certificate
Jan 08 17:23:04 <fredddd> But IMAP + TLS is not good enough? What does this SASL do that TLS does not do?
Jan 08 17:23:05 <Robot101> whilst you can use client certificates to prove your identity to the server, it's not typical
Jan 08 17:23:17 <Robot101> usually you will then also use SASL to log in to the server - then it knows who you are
Jan 08 17:23:31 <Robot101> or, put another way, it's just how you send your username and password to log in :)
Jan 08 17:23:39 <Robot101> if you use IMAP you must use SASL to log in
Jan 08 17:23:46 <fredddd> But this should be encrypted regardless, with TLS, no?
Jan 08 17:23:53 <fredddd> So.
Jan 08 17:23:59 <fredddd> I should do the SASL part then too.
Jan 08 17:24:02 <fredddd> I will be using IAMP.
Jan 08 17:24:04 <fredddd> IMAP*
Jan 08 17:24:13 <Robot101> yes, it will be encrypted. but encryption doesn't mean anyone should read your mail or send via your server... :)
Jan 08 17:24:32 <fredddd> No, that is why I have a username and password. :X
Jan 08 17:24:41 <Robot101> yes - SASL is how IMAP checks your password
Jan 08 17:24:50 <Robot101> it's just a protocol and API for logging in
Jan 08 17:25:06 <fredddd> But I logged in before without it when I used to have an IMAP server up.
Jan 08 17:25:11 <fredddd> D:
Jan 08 17:25:13 * fredddd is confused
Jan 08 17:25:20 <Robot101> your IMAP server was probably just doing SASL for you
Jan 08 17:25:31 <ruskie> hmmm anyone know where/if anywhere erminig stores any caches/etc..?
Jan 08 17:25:32 <Robot101> dovecot for instance, just does it for you based on whatever user/pass database you configure
Jan 08 17:25:50 <Robot101> but afaik, all IMAP logins are done with SASL
Jan 08 17:26:04 <fredddd> Ha, I will go with it then.
Jan 08 17:26:06 <Robot101> ie the protocol requires it. in older protocols like XMPP or SMTP then SASL is an optional add-on
Jan 08 17:26:14 <fredddd> Was just not sure if it would be of any use for my particular situation.
Jan 08 17:26:33 <Robot101> you want it on your SMTP server so only authenticated users can use your server as a mail relay
Jan 08 17:26:43 <fredddd> I usually thought if you use regular encryption (TLS) with a connection you were good to go.
Jan 08 17:26:44 <Robot101> otherwise you will become the pawn of merciless spammers :)
Jan 08 17:26:54 <Robot101> encryption is different to authentication
Jan 08 17:27:09 <Robot101> TLS = encryption, SASL = authentication
Jan 08 17:27:11 <Robot101> you need both
Jan 08 17:27:27 <fredddd> I get it now.
Jan 08 17:27:29 <Robot101> and usually, you also don't want SASL to work without TLS, otherwise your password could be sent in clear
Jan 08 17:27:32 <ruskie> well both are nice ;)
Jan 08 17:27:41 <fredddd> I am following this: http://library.linode.com/email/postfix/dovecot-system-users-debian-6-squeeze#sph_sasl-authentication
Jan 08 17:28:46 <jacekowski> well, if you've got TLS then whatever you've got is going to be safe
Jan 08 17:29:00 <Robot101> fredddd: ignore that bit about libsasl and saslauthd, it's wrong - if postfix is using dovecot to do SASL, then it doesn't use libsasl etc
Jan 08 17:29:16 <jacekowski> cyrus is much better option
Jan 08 17:29:20 <Robot101> fredddd: it looks like the tutorial had the old way and was only half-updated to the new way with dovecot (which is preferred, as libsasl is whack and dovecot is awesome)
Jan 08 17:29:26 <ruskie> jacekowski, hahaha
Jan 08 17:29:41 <fredddd> Robot101, in the past I used this one: http://www.splitbrain.org/blog/2008-01/31-setup_postfix_and_dovecot_on_debian_etch
Jan 08 17:29:42 <Robot101> life's too short to configure cyrus :)
Jan 08 17:29:54 <fredddd> It is from 2008, but it resulted in me setting up a working server on Debian 6 which appeared to be fine.
Jan 08 17:29:54 <jacekowski> it only takes like 20 minutes
Jan 08 17:30:23 <ruskie> fredddd, try http://wiki2.dovecot.org/HowTo/PostfixAndDovecotSASL
Jan 08 17:30:27 <Robot101> fredddd: that looks pretty good - similar to what I have except I also have TLS
Jan 08 17:30:38 <fredddd> Robot101, an additional post explains that.
Jan 08 17:30:47 <Robot101> anyway **(* look at the time I gotta pack
Jan 08 17:30:50 <Robot101> train in 40 mins
Jan 08 17:31:05 <fredddd> Thanks for the information. ^^
Jan 08 17:31:38 <ruskie> also note there are #postfix and #dovecot channels that such things would probably fit better ;)
Jan 08 17:32:13 <fredddd> Yeah well I know Robot101 is pretty knowledged in this so I was hoping to get a short and direct clear answer from him, which he somewhat did, which self research did not with search engines.
Jan 08 17:32:23 <fredddd> The SASL bit was only confusing me.
Jan 08 17:32:28 <fredddd> I have setup Postfix and Dovecot before just fine.
Jan 08 17:32:31 <ruskie> well see the dovecot wiki directly ;)
Jan 08 17:32:36 <ruskie> has the howtos there already ;)
Jan 08 17:35:15 <Pali> freemangordon, did you found someting in u-boot?
Jan 08 18:02:15 <FIQ> is it just me or is uboot-power package broken?
Jan 08 18:02:40 <FIQ> due to it depending on an old kernel version of kernel-power
Jan 08 18:03:28 <FIQ> MohammadAG: ^
Jan 08 18:04:54 <FIQ> ~seen MohammadAG 
Jan 08 18:05:01 <FIQ> whatever
Jan 08 18:05:04 <infobot> mohammadag is currently on #maemo #harmattan #meego, last said: 'javispedro, ssu chan'.
Jan 08 18:23:49 <fredddd> Robot101?
Jan 08 18:23:57 <fredddd> Or anyone in general, although the channel might be inappropriate.
Jan 08 18:24:08 <fredddd> If I interpret it right, imaps is deprecated compared to imap, right?
Jan 08 18:24:21 <fredddd> This mail server tutorial is suggesting me to switch to imaps for my server when configuring a certificate on it.
Jan 08 19:41:48 <valdyn> fredddd: certificate suggests that you use an encrypted connection, which is not provided by imap without the s
Jan 08 19:42:46 <fredddd> IMAP + TLS > IMAPS (SSL) right?
Jan 08 19:43:20 <luke-jr> fredddd: yes
Jan 08 19:43:35 <luke-jr> valdyn is either wrong, or talking about something client-specific :P
Jan 08 19:44:07 <luke-jr> also, it's possible your mail server doesn't support TLS?
Jan 08 19:50:50 <fredddd> It does.
Jan 08 19:51:03 <fredddd> Dovecot and Postfix support it.
Jan 08 23:38:55 <vortigaunt> hey guys
Jan 08 23:39:03 <vortigaunt> i just got a free n900 :)
Jan 08 23:39:26 <vortigaunt> i was wondering if you guys can point me to a nice and up to date tutorial on flashing
Jan 08 23:39:39 <DocScrutinizer> ~flash
Jan 08 23:39:40 <infobot> i heard maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware
Jan 08 23:39:43 <VladNistor> nice. someone stole mine :)
Jan 08 23:39:54 <vortigaunt> i googled a bunch of them .. but i dont want to brick this
Jan 08 23:40:18 <vortigaunt> that sucks :|
Jan 08 23:40:26 <DocScrutinizer> ??
Jan 08 23:40:46 <DocScrutinizer> nm
Jan 08 23:41:05 <VladNistor> :) enjot it, it's nice piecw of hw
Jan 08 23:41:32 <vortigaunt> i know .. i've been looking to have one for a while
Jan 08 23:42:25 <vortigaunt> i've been using it for 3 days now ... its awesome
Jan 08 23:42:50 <vortigaunt> so the link infobot gave me ... should i follow that ?
Jan 08 23:42:55 <DocScrutinizer> yes
Jan 08 23:43:26 <vortigaunt> i want to completly wipe it.. fresh install
Jan 08 23:43:34 <DocScrutinizer> read the *whole* page, as it's a bit mixedpickles structured
Jan 08 23:43:51 <DocScrutinizer> then you want to flash both COMBINED and VANILLA
Jan 08 23:43:52 <vortigaunt> i sure will :)
Jan 08 23:44:27 <VladNistor> good lad
Jan 08 23:49:13 <vortigaunt> hope i wont f* up this .. seems complicated
Jan 08 23:49:19 <vortigaunt> thanks guys!
Jan 09 00:03:27 <plate> its not complicated
Jan 09 00:03:44 <plate> hold down U as you insert battery while its polugged into a pc
Jan 09 00:04:41 <plate> i tend to brick things so good messing w/ debian and vanila kernel that even 6-second-hold on power button doesnt do anything thus the battery thing, im sure you can flash w/o removing battery tho
Jan 09 00:56:10 <fosstux> Hi! I'm trying to reflash my n900. On Win7 64bit all I get is Suitable USB device not found, waiting.
Jan 09 00:56:12 <fosstux> Nothing elsen.
Jan 09 00:56:35 <fosstux> When trying to flash on Linux (Fedora 16), I get USB device found found at bus 002, device address 009. Error claiming USB interface: Device or resource busy
Jan 09 00:56:44 <fosstux> I'm running the flasher as root.
Jan 09 00:56:52 <fosstux> What am I doing wrong?????
Jan 09 00:57:31 <robbiethe1st> Uh, make sure modules 'phonet' and 'cdc_phonet' are unloaded
Jan 09 01:02:50 <fosstux> robbiethe1st: the two modules get loaded as soon as I plug in the phone...
Jan 09 01:03:13 <SpeedEvil> you need to blacklist them
Jan 09 01:03:13 <fosstux> ok. got it
Jan 09 01:03:14 <robbiethe1st> Blacklist em
Jan 09 01:05:10 <fosstux> I've now flashed the emmc with flasher-3.5 -f <image>.bin -f -R. Now I want to flash the root image. Do I have to change the syntax?
Jan 09 01:26:49 <fosstux> thanks - it worked
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