**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jan 16 02:59:57 2012 Jan 16 03:00:27 kernel Jan 16 03:00:40 just with uboot, kernel image got also uboot at start Jan 16 03:00:48 Hm Jan 16 03:00:54 I restored with backupmenu and u-boot is still there Jan 16 03:01:41 because it's in kernel asMive said, backupmenu doesn't have anything to do with kernel Jan 16 03:03:25 Estel_: so on another completely different note, my N900 takes about 5 minutes before it realizes it has a SIM in it on every boot - ideas? Jan 16 03:04:14 unfortunatelly, no, but it may be indication if hardware failure of sim pins. I hope that it isn't, but.... Jan 16 03:04:33 check forum for old trick with paper, and if it makes difference, consider resoldering Jan 16 03:04:50 That's what I found TMO mentioning, and I did the paper trick Jan 16 03:05:10 I'm off for now, as I've finished MyDocs backuo, going to re mkfs it and restore. Good night! (morning) Jan 16 03:05:11 I see Jan 16 03:05:14 T-Mobile said they are "updating the towers" in the area, but I suspect B.S. on that Jan 16 03:05:22 of course bt Jan 16 03:05:29 anyway, You can check other sim Jan 16 03:05:50 if it's exactly same time everytime, it's rather something softareish Jan 16 03:05:52 What are you converting MyDocs to? Jan 16 03:05:58 Yeah Jan 16 03:06:05 nothing, just mkswap'ed it accidentaly Jan 16 03:06:11 But it exists on a stock pr 1.3 image Jan 16 03:06:15 fortunately, not swapon'ed Jan 16 03:06:17 Estel_: lol, how did you do that Jan 16 03:06:33 while experimenting with cryptsetup and enxrypted swap Jan 16 03:06:42 just typed mmcblk0p1 Jan 16 03:06:43 hm Jan 16 03:06:46 instead of p7 Jan 16 03:06:58 Are you using truecrypt as well? Jan 16 03:07:14 anyway, I was able to copy back my data - If I would unmount it, it would probably not mount again Jan 16 03:07:26 hehe, I'm truecrypt package maintainer ;) Jan 16 03:07:33 so, fortunately, I'm using it Jan 16 03:07:38 I use cryptsetup on my other Linux machines, but on N900 it seams truecrypt is the way to go Jan 16 03:07:51 well, both can cooperate nicely Jan 16 03:08:24 when top security is required, You just encrypt swap also with cryptsetup, to not avoid leaking data from mounted truecrypt partition via swapping Jan 16 03:08:39 I'm preparing set of scripts for next version of truecrypt Jan 16 03:08:46 that ease it Jan 16 03:08:50 hm Jan 16 03:09:34 also, truecrypt and little mod to osso-usb-mass-storage-enable.sh result in mass-storage to desktops, where desktop see partition that is encrypted via truecrypt on N900 itself Jan 16 03:09:49 = no need for truecrypt on PC that You connect N900 to Jan 16 03:10:11 = drop in replacement for expensive and often insecure encrypted pendrives and HDs Jan 16 03:10:20 Hm Jan 16 03:10:24 That's an idea Jan 16 03:10:29 another thing our N900 handles well Jan 16 03:10:42 check truecrypt announce thread on tmo, instructions are there Jan 16 03:10:57 Did you use truecrypt for your /home ? Jan 16 03:11:15 I'll try to prepare some scripts for it in new version, but it will always require some manual user input to determine when to mass-storage it or when not Jan 16 03:11:39 well, we don't want to arbitraty show every tc partition to computer in mass-storage Jan 16 03:11:54 no, I don't see reason for encrypting whole home, performance-wise Jan 16 03:12:17 it's better to mive priv things like phonebook, contacts, messages etc to truecrypt partition Jan 16 03:12:21 and symlink it Jan 16 03:12:39 anyway, I'm off for now. See ya! Jan 16 05:19:37 join #harmattan Jan 16 06:19:39 hahahaha, I just stumbled upon a thread where vi_ was almost off his face Jan 16 08:27:57 all app menus are unselectable beacuse wdgt_va_12h_hors:wdgt_va_minutes wdgt_va_am makes status corner wider thn screen Jan 16 08:28:03 ive reinstalled all locale stuff countless times Jan 16 08:28:21 even grep Package /var/lib/dpkg/status|cut -f 1 | xargs apt-get install --reinstall 947 packages Jan 16 08:28:41 added entries to /etc/locale-gen, run locale-gen, and dpkg --reinstall'd locales Jan 16 08:28:42 nothing works Jan 16 08:29:06 reflash? ;) Jan 16 08:29:07 /usr/lib/locales/locale-archive generates fine, and finally Jan 16 08:29:22 the control panel *Crashes* the entire OS trying to select a region, and the menu is now blank Jan 16 08:29:41 spent a ton of time manually compiling obscure stuff thats not in any repo Jan 16 08:29:45 not about to reflash all that away Jan 16 08:30:09 ive got a pretty solid dev setup on it for wahtever framework i want etc, but damn if i cant get hildon to not idiotically obscure the damn app menus Jan 16 08:30:38 you should have created backups using backupmenu which robbiethe1st created :) Jan 16 08:30:44 ok Jan 16 08:31:06 it all started when i rm -rf'd /usr/share/locale due to 0 bytes of disk free on / Jan 16 08:31:13 i figured i could just reinstall locale packages Jan 16 08:31:24 well I don't know apart from that.. I have ran into that issue before but in the end I resorted to reflashing.. this was before I had backupmenu Jan 16 08:31:25 which i did, every single one in apt-cache search! Jan 16 08:31:30 ok Jan 16 08:31:35 ~backupmenu Jan 16 08:31:36 from memory, backupmenu is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63975 Jan 16 08:31:43 I thought they were in opt wasn't it? Jan 16 08:31:49 those locales Jan 16 08:32:18 proably soem unoptified debian-sid pkg i installed ;) Jan 16 08:32:35 migght just backup my ruby/python/ghc binaries and reflash though Jan 16 08:32:58 seems crazy to reflash though, i want to figure out the real way to fix it Jan 16 08:33:52 there has to be a reason why it crashes, if you could try running that settings program through X terminal and see if you can get anything useful out of it Jan 16 08:34:15 seen several forum posters claiming it crashes Jan 16 08:34:20 back to pr1.1 even. whokknows Jan 16 08:34:39 copa_ap_cp_nam is the symbol in app-list , i donno what the binary is Jan 16 08:34:49 wait.. aren't we talking about N900 or which maemo device specifically? Jan 16 08:34:57 n900 pr1.3 + cssu Jan 16 08:35:03 but probs happened before any cssu upgrades so not blaming that Jan 16 08:35:31 yeah I thought as much, hmm Jan 16 08:36:27 gonna try symlinking it to /opt/maemo/usr/share/locale Jan 16 08:57:12 ssh and strace controlpanel Jan 16 08:57:17 rt_sigaction(SIGWINCH, {SIG_DFL, [], SA_RESTART|0x4000000}, NULL, 8) = 0 Jan 16 08:57:22 so weird, its like 'freak out and reboot entire OS' Jan 16 09:06:12 unfortuately strace isn't really my field of experience.. so that bit of line you posted made very little sense to me.. all I can sense is that it was the last bit of message before the whole thing rebooted Jan 16 09:16:44 kill -9 hildon-desktop and straceing it i see it opening /usr/share/locale/en_US which does exist, so hrmpf Jan 16 09:16:52 its still shoving in the default straings somehow Jan 16 09:17:53 that SA_RESTART is something about retriggering a signal i think, not rebooting Jan 16 09:17:58 cuz i see it happening other times Jan 16 09:18:19 guess i should pole aroudn in /dev/mtdoops to see if aby sort of OS crash log is being written Jan 16 09:18:36 still dont get how a crashy controlpanel brings down an entire OS tho Jan 16 09:18:41 feels like a Mac circa 1992 Jan 16 09:20:27 SA_RESTART Provide behaviour compatible with BSD signal semantics by making certain system calls restartable across signals." Jan 16 09:20:45 atleast this is UNIX. gotta love how hildon-desktop is just an X client Jan 16 09:23:46 think im just gona use illume instead of matchbox/hildon, we'll see if phone app still works Jan 16 09:24:47 i just remembered, im using debian sid's GLIBC that could have somethin gto do with hildon invisibly failing Jan 16 09:24:57 praobly i should bite hte bullet and continue sidification process then Jan 16 09:25:02 * plate tweaks Jan 16 09:25:43 nothin glike a good frankensys Jan 16 09:49:21 dang Jan 16 12:40:38 http://www.reghardware.com/2012/01/16/skype_windows_phone/ <-- heh suprised... not really... Jan 16 13:05:08 A belated Happy New Year to all Jan 16 13:05:20 SpeedEvil: ping Jan 16 13:06:34 ong Jan 16 13:06:35 p Jan 16 13:06:38 hey Jan 16 13:06:43 You too Jan 16 13:06:51 I trust you had a nice Xmas? Jan 16 13:07:02 Not great. Jan 16 13:07:05 But meh. Jan 16 13:07:05 I was wanting to pick your brain re barcodes and Tescos lookups Jan 16 13:07:09 Sure Jan 16 13:07:09 oh :( Jan 16 13:07:46 I'm wondering whether there are any open or free access sources of barcode/product description -> nutritional data Jan 16 13:07:52 yes Jan 16 13:07:56 well Jan 16 13:07:59 free access, not open Jan 16 13:08:07 Well, part way :) Jan 16 13:08:26 http://www.mauve.plus.com/bar/ - list of barcodes as of middlish of last year Jan 16 13:08:29 from tesco Jan 16 13:08:34 to product descriptions Jan 16 13:09:23 cool Jan 16 13:10:03 http://www.techfortesco.com/forum/index.php?board=13.0 - the API documents Jan 16 13:10:29 nice, thanks :) Jan 16 13:10:36 really easy API Jan 16 13:10:57 any dbs containing nutritional data about products? I'm after carbohydrate, fibre and protein? Jan 16 13:11:07 not quite Jan 16 13:11:12 you ask it per-product Jan 16 13:11:20 ah it does that too, cool Jan 16 13:11:33 but it does actually say somewhere in the site that some functionality can only be gotten by scraping. Jan 16 13:11:45 ok, I'll do some digging Jan 16 13:11:46 and that this should be done on your server, not by all the clients! Jan 16 13:11:52 lol Jan 16 13:12:51 background - am scratching an itch and looking for correlations between blood sugar, insulin dosage, exercise, etc., and need to find an easy way to record the data, as there's no way I'll write it all down manually Jan 16 13:12:55 at least not after the first day Jan 16 13:13:28 http://www.livestrong.com/myplate/ Jan 16 13:13:33 Is something you should look at Jan 16 13:13:41 I've been using it for the last couple of years. Jan 16 13:14:08 It basically is almost annoying enough to make me write something better. Jan 16 13:14:10 but... Jan 16 13:14:28 I grabbed a couple of Android apps that allow barcode scanning and they perform lookups, I was considering hacking their lookup commands Jan 16 13:14:41 lardman: into mBarcode? Jan 16 13:14:54 lardman: What I'd really want wouldn't be solely barcode based. Jan 16 13:15:18 I mean - sure - that's handy for entering the basic info - but you need weight too Jan 16 13:15:36 edheldil: no, though that should be easy enough to add once I work out the commands - progress has been slow, need to get the bloody delegates finished for the N9(50) version, then look at extra plugins Jan 16 13:16:03 SpeedEvil: sure, though some barcodes presumably are for different weights of products Jan 16 13:16:15 it's just an added way or removing typing Jan 16 13:16:17 I rarely eat a whole tub of ice-cream. Jan 16 13:16:20 s/or/of Jan 16 13:16:26 lol Jan 16 13:16:35 It would also be useful to key off other stuff. Jan 16 13:16:40 Well I'd have # servings and/or weight Jan 16 13:16:40 So you can scan some coffee. Jan 16 13:17:06 And say 'I never eat this alone, it's a key for 1.5g of coffee, 100g of skimmed milk' Jan 16 13:17:24 But practically, you probably want a scrolly list of pictures of foods to click Jan 16 13:17:29 yes, have some preset "meals" Jan 16 13:17:48 The 'meals' concept of livestrong is useful. Jan 16 13:18:00 you have a group of foods that total (say) 700 calories. Jan 16 13:18:03 you enter that. Jan 16 13:18:20 and then you can click into it, and - if for example you had more potatos - you can bump up the quantity. Jan 16 13:18:40 and it recalculates calories/fiber/... Jan 16 13:18:41 yes, would work for set meals Jan 16 13:18:52 Adding pedo functions would be good too Jan 16 13:19:04 I'm just trying to get a handle on how to collect data without it being too annoying for me Jan 16 13:19:25 Having done this for a while - at least for me - barcodes would be less useful. Jan 16 13:19:31 I was considering that, but also looking at wifi ap changes vs time to calculate distance Jan 16 13:20:01 SpeedEvil: ok, was only to be one input method, and potentially a way of populating a database to be searched by name/picture/category Jan 16 13:20:24 http://www.heartratemonitor-app.com/polar_bluetooth_heart_rate_monitor.html Jan 16 13:20:36 How does that work for half a cabbage? Jan 16 13:20:40 Or an apple? Jan 16 13:21:03 I'm probably mentioning things that are v2 issues. Jan 16 13:21:16 but I've been sort-of-thinking about this for a while. Jan 16 13:21:28 don't eat cabbage? ;) Jan 16 13:21:35 basically everytime I go to enter food info into annoying ad-laden website. Jan 16 13:21:38 scan the barcode for the cabbage? Jan 16 13:21:58 And if you've thrown the packing away when you opened the cabbage and ate it yesterday? Jan 16 13:22:11 there is also a foc US database of standard items so I understand Jan 16 13:22:17 so that could be searched by name Jan 16 13:22:20 some sort of 'recent foods' would be useful. Jan 16 13:22:25 for the above case. Jan 16 13:22:44 How useful this sort of thing is to you depends drastically on stuff. Jan 16 13:23:02 For example, how often you eat meals prepared by someone who is not prepared to work out the caloriwe content Jan 16 13:24:14 I know what's in my meals, and how much, so I'd assume the sw would do that for me Jan 16 13:24:44 If you can input the ingredients - it's mostly easy. Jan 16 13:25:07 Though some annoying products only have the 'when griled' for example - and assume that some fat frains off. Jan 16 13:25:22 ah I see Jan 16 13:25:50 well calories are not actually that important for me, though I suppose I should make it sufficiently flexible - I'm really looking at blood sugar Jan 16 13:26:03 Fair enough. Jan 16 13:26:05 so fat is immaterial Jan 16 13:26:20 I've been concentrating on weight, so calories are important. Jan 16 13:26:21 though with that said it may well correlate to speed of carbohydrate release Jan 16 13:26:35 I went from ~95Kg to ~75Kg Jan 16 13:26:38 in which case it is of some importance for me too Jan 16 13:26:52 * lardman is constant at 96kg Jan 16 13:26:54 Also fat diabetic people are at much more risk of complications. Jan 16 13:26:59 So dieting is important Jan 16 13:27:15 (not saying you're fat, you may simply be big-boned) Jan 16 13:27:21 Or 8 feet tall. Jan 16 13:27:24 indeed, though in the first instance I only really want to see how one can correlate food exercise general activity etc Jan 16 13:27:47 I'm not fat don't worry, despite the name :) Jan 16 13:28:31 I've not found muych wrong with caliories in - calories out = 7000/Kg Jan 16 13:29:02 I wish transcutaneous glucometry was easier. Jan 16 13:29:16 yes indeed Jan 16 13:29:31 sub sampling is bad news Jan 16 13:30:37 http://www.mendeley.com/research/new-noninvasive-method-measuring-blood-glucose-using-instantaneous-differential-near-infrared-spectrophotometry/ - hmm, that's not terrible. Jan 16 13:30:39 speaking of calories, /me goes to grab a sandwich, bbiab Jan 16 13:30:43 oh 1700nm Jan 16 13:30:44 meh Jan 16 13:30:56 that's an annoying range meaning you need to go to exotic detectors Jan 16 13:32:15 only single point detector though, so still doable Jan 16 13:32:21 though cryogenic presumably Jan 16 13:32:29 not at 1700nm Jan 16 13:32:40 germanium should do it, if it was easily available. Jan 16 13:33:03 You need an actual scanning element - which is a pity - if Ge CCDs were available, it'd be easy - but they're not Jan 16 13:34:32 Gallium? Jan 16 13:34:38 Ow - $240 for the detector. Germanium Jan 16 13:34:48 http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?lang=en&site=US&WT.z_homepage_link=hp_go_button&KeyWords=ingaas Jan 16 13:35:29 indium gallium arsenide Jan 16 13:35:49 Seems to be more available than germanium Jan 16 13:35:49 germanium is for the lens, transparent to IR Jan 16 13:36:03 you can also get germanium photodiodes Jan 16 13:36:12 ah ok Jan 16 13:36:35 looks like some uncooled CCDs can operate at that range with appropriate filtering, from a quick Google Jan 16 13:36:37 the whole optics to do that would be deeply annoying too Jan 16 13:36:52 if it';s only single point then it's not so important Jan 16 13:36:59 silicon tends to peter out at ~1000nm tops IIRC Jan 16 15:29:57 meh Jan 16 17:28:11 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/01/16/nokia_patents/ Jan 16 17:33:45 My N900 is saying "Device malfunction, reboot in 10 seconds" Jan 16 17:34:36 :'( Jan 16 17:34:45 So like 1/10 times it boots Jan 16 17:34:48 It's completely random Jan 16 17:35:02 Maybe Estel_ knows :) Jan 16 17:35:03 dont send it in to nokia Jan 16 17:35:15 they just hand you an N8, or probably now a Lumia Jan 16 17:35:24 haha, it seems that DocScrutinizer went berserker again Jan 16 17:35:33 isnt that dude berzerk all the time? Jan 16 17:35:36 well, I'm banned on maemo-ssu ;) Jan 16 17:35:50 i would be berzerk too Jan 16 17:35:58 if my hostmask had openmoko in it Jan 16 17:36:10 Estel_: My N900 says "Device Malfunction, reboot in 10 seconds" in green text at the Nokia screen :| Jan 16 17:36:11 I once knew the situatuin that causes device malfunction message Jan 16 17:36:14 but i forgot Jan 16 17:36:24 no, I'll kick you Estel_ from freenode when you don't stop messingf with onjoin Jan 16 17:36:36 ShadowJK: TMO threads seem to relate it to the battery and the kernel being flashed Jan 16 17:36:46 DocScrutinizer, I just contributed to bugtesting Jan 16 17:36:54 But the battery is fully charged (just charged overnight) and same thing with a different battery Jan 16 17:36:54 fu Jan 16 17:37:11 i think it was related to not finding the emmc, or not being able to mount stuff. Jan 16 17:37:18 onjoin is fixed on #maemo so i tested it on #maemo-ssu Jan 16 17:37:34 'isnt that a bug that the bomb goes BOOOM whe I hit that red button?' Jan 16 17:37:36 DocScrutinizer, imagine what could happen if blackhats would find it first, not me ;) Jan 16 17:37:45 AndrewX192: get DT-33 Jan 16 17:37:49 external battery charger Jan 16 17:37:54 then you would live longer Jan 16 17:37:57 for example onjoining porn sites Jan 16 17:38:26 Well, could I ask You kindly to unban me from maemo-ssu? ;) Jan 16 17:38:30 Estel_: you're pushing your luck Jan 16 17:38:37 I just don't get why it doesn't work 9/10 times and 1/10 times it starts up without any problem Jan 16 17:38:39 I'm MEGAPISSED Jan 16 17:38:47 AndrewX192: n900 character:P Jan 16 17:38:56 pissed over some IRC stuff? Jan 16 17:39:03 grab a tea, relax:< Jan 16 17:39:13 IRC drama Jan 16 17:39:15 well, that's just me probably. Didn't mean to piss You, but isn't it a best way to check if it's actually fixed? ;) Jan 16 17:39:26 YES, as estel makes infobot get kicked for spamming Jan 16 17:39:34 wow Jan 16 17:39:36 bbl Jan 16 17:39:37 *splitted cofee* Jan 16 17:39:38 he makes your bot be kicked Jan 16 17:39:42 im not that impressed Jan 16 17:39:49 really, overreacting much? Jan 16 17:39:57 oh well, have fun with it Jan 16 17:40:15 ~part Jan 16 17:40:16 /part Jan 16 17:40:22 done Jan 16 17:40:39 :-/ Jan 16 17:40:46 added benefit. I just set in infobot to inform DocScrutinizer about issue, byt actually using that issue. Jan 16 17:40:58 ooh Jan 16 17:41:12 no idea about kicking, but sounds lolish. eh. Jan 16 17:41:32 I'm consoidering to kickban you *again* here as well Jan 16 17:41:38 Estel_: you should tell me why my N900 is bootlooping :| Jan 16 17:41:40 for IRC abuse Jan 16 17:41:48 well, You actually fixed that issue, and I can promise to not touch onjoin again anywhere, even on my own irc channel ;) Jan 16 17:41:50 why not just get some opers involved? Jan 16 17:42:15 well, I actually wasnt abusing it. Abuse would be to put adveristment into onjoin. Jan 16 17:42:35 I just did it for good reasons, informing You about boomb. By making loud noise. Jan 16 17:43:00 DocScrutinizer, despite being pissed off, You must admit that there is some humour involved. Jan 16 17:43:02 yes because the right recation in a crowded airport is to run in and yell bomb when you find it Jan 16 17:43:04 YOU FOOOOOL!!!!!!! each time you 'touch' onjoin, you make *me* make infobot spam DOZENS of channels, as you're too dull to get how t works Jan 16 17:43:11 ow and here come some nice people with flashy bits Jan 16 17:43:23 Estel_: http://nin101.uni.cx/N900/crypto/mass-storage/ Jan 16 17:44:22 DocScrutinizer, hey, if one non-op on some random channel can make infobot spam dozens of channels, it is an issue, isn't it? Jan 16 17:44:57 it's better to know about it sooner than later? I wasnt having idea about other channels, by the way Jan 16 17:45:38 so wait Jan 16 17:45:41 anyway, I can promise to not abuse - in any means, including sexual - Your pet infobot Jan 16 17:45:44 all this is about broken code somewhere? Jan 16 17:45:48 yea Jan 16 17:45:54 DocScrutinizer51 sounds like Bioware then Jan 16 17:46:13 in their game, its not allowed to dance in fron of hostile NPCs Jan 16 17:46:19 because of a bug, their attacks will not hit you then Jan 16 17:46:25 shhh, You make him bankick me, I would be forced to use new nick :< Jan 16 17:46:25 you get banned for dancing in front of hostile NPCs Jan 16 17:46:51 it might be a nice suggestion to tell Estel_ that you will fix the code, while Estel_ promises not to purposefully touch the bug Jan 16 17:47:01 instead of raging against estel Jan 16 17:47:05 I promised it anyway ;) Jan 16 17:47:20 and getting MEGAPISSED over some IRC stuff is really unhealthy Jan 16 17:47:27 i can only imagine how something in the real world might affect you Jan 16 17:47:35 sorry AndrewX192 I'll check Your bug in a while Jan 16 17:47:36 and the people around you Jan 16 17:47:57 I'm now fighting to save my nick, as they want to cut it off from me for abusing infobot Jan 16 17:48:06 well, whatever it sounds. Jan 16 17:48:12 Estel_: Is it possible to debug a boot, so I can see why it's rebooting? Jan 16 17:48:27 DocScrutinizer51: Why not implement an ignore feature in the bot? Jan 16 17:48:53 AndrewX192, You're making it worse :P Jan 16 17:49:26 AndrewX192: let me guess, you edited /etc/event.d/rcS-late without testing it before modifing that file? Jan 16 17:49:28 i think DocScrutinizer51 knows about the broken bot and i think Estel_ knows about the touchy bug Jan 16 17:49:29 Estel_: but really. How can I see the reason for the boot loop? I have access to BackupMenu Jan 16 17:49:31 best just leave it alone Jan 16 17:50:00 NIN102: I modified that file to move to ext4 /home, but it DOES work.. just not 100% of the time Jan 16 17:50:10 I'm busy at work right now. I'm not master of infobot, only (one of the) bot admin. Bot HAS an ignore feature, we always thought we don't need it as users are not as stubburn as estel Jan 16 17:50:15 And that's not logical Jan 16 17:50:30 DocScrutinizer51: not handier to fix the actual bug? Jan 16 17:50:30 The paritions are clean Jan 16 17:50:38 or just plain too much work? Jan 16 17:50:53 hey I'm not stubborn Jan 16 17:51:05 I used it once by accident, then You fixed it Jan 16 17:51:06 AndrewX192: so you didn't change anything to implement swap encryption? Jan 16 17:51:26 NIN102: no, I was just linking that article Jan 16 17:51:28 so on new channel I used it once on purpose, to check if there isnt a bug making it to work again Jan 16 17:51:37 ah ok. Jan 16 17:52:18 NIN102: All I've done is switch optfs to ext4, and modify rcS-late and gen....* in /usr/lib/ to change ext3 to ext4 Jan 16 17:52:48 Estel_: I AM AWARE OF the OnJoin problem, way better than you. NO NEED TO TEST. You ever touching OJ again will earn you a ban on * Jan 16 17:53:04 (last applies for others as well) Jan 16 17:53:15 totally agree. If I ever touch onjoin again, I'll opt for ban for myself! Jan 16 17:53:17 that sounds like the Microsoft way to deal with bugs Jan 16 17:53:19 way to go Jan 16 17:53:24 now, can You unban me on maemo-ssu? ;) Jan 16 17:53:30 i think i know why i never really was here Jan 16 17:53:35 theres a source of negative energy here Jan 16 17:53:36 NIN102: and so now sometimes it does a complete boot without issues, and sometimes it just reboots a bunch of times until it succeds Jan 16 17:53:37 bye Jan 16 17:54:06 DocScrutinizer, by the way, Yo7've fixed it on #maemo. Why isn't simple fix possible on #maemo-ssu? Jan 16 17:54:17 i.e. disabling it for users like on #maemo ? Jan 16 17:55:06 because idiots like you will mess with it on #debian instead Jan 16 17:55:14 or any of Jan 16 17:55:22 ~chaninfo Jan 16 17:55:22 121/121 channels, 5113 users, 3656 unique: #debian/1173, #kde/391, #maemo/306, #meego/300, #asterisk/197, #harmattan/187, #gsoc/177, #webos-internals/149, #wowuidev/146, #oe/134, #wowace/134, #wowhead/115, #openmoko/104, #openmoko-cdevel/81, #htc-linux/79, #uclibc/72, #utah/64, #bzflag/60, #curseforge/58, #edev/54, #tomcat/54, #asterisk-dev/51, #n9/48, #sc2mapster/46, #maemo-ssu/46, #/39, #uphpu/37, #slug/35, #elinux/32, #diablofans/31, ... Jan 16 17:56:11 erm, aren't You little overreactive anyway? btw, You havent answered my side-question about disabling onjoin for users, like on #maemo Jan 16 17:56:41 well, so I contributed to disabling possible dangerous feature? cool. Jan 16 17:56:44 joking Jan 16 17:57:29 Can You already unban me on maemo-ssu? got buisness there ;) registering new nick *shoul* take longer than unbanning, yep? Jan 16 17:57:50 Estel_, what gives you the idea that a new nick will solve anything? Jan 16 17:58:22 (anyway, the could mention me on Debian credits. If no by a small font and in reverse. Would look like 'infobot onjoin disabled thanks to let see) Jan 16 17:59:00 experience with dynamic IP range @ dynamic IP first two sections. I imagine DocScrutinizer isnt so anrgy to ban whole world. Jan 16 17:59:06 Of course, it doesnt matter Jan 16 17:59:18 as I'm on the light side. No wish to exploit bugs here. Jan 16 17:59:52 jokes aside, I really tested it only because I thought that he might left it open for new bot channel, and it may be problematic if someone less resp.onsible discovers it. Jan 16 18:00:45 so, DocScrutinizer, really excuse me for ay inconveicence it caused. Jan 16 18:01:19 Would be thankful, if You could unban me on cssu channel, and I won't touch - sexually or not - Your infobot, promised. Jan 16 18:01:25 now I'm off, see ya. Jan 16 18:02:05 doesn't need to be the whole world... just the whole ISP ;) Jan 16 18:16:31 Checking for bootloop with my base build (pre ext4) Jan 16 18:16:57 Device Malfunction! rebooting in 10 seconsd Jan 16 18:20:06 vaguely swollen battery - wat do? Jan 16 18:20:13 duck for cover and run away? Jan 16 18:20:38 Buy a new one? Jan 16 18:20:58 I have a seemingly legit backup battery from Amazon Jan 16 18:22:50 * SpeedEvil thinks of the Missy Elliot song. Jan 16 18:58:47 Is there a way to hide carrier name on the desktop? Jan 16 18:59:39 tippex Jan 16 18:59:43 It's the only way. Jan 16 19:01:48 lol Jan 16 19:02:52 u could try Custom Operator Name widget.. make a blank name Jan 16 19:05:14 thanks :P Jan 16 19:42:13 does SMSCON remote server thing work for anyone? Jan 16 19:42:42 it works when i do a test, but it won't check periodically Jan 16 20:02:42 Where's that estel_ guy??? Jan 16 20:02:58 [2012-01-16 20:57:30] *** Das Thema wurde am 2011-07-25 04:09 von DocScrutinizer!~halley@openmoko/engineers/joerg gesetzt. Jan 16 20:03:00 [2012-01-16 20:57:32] just checking if it's fixed on ssu channel Jan 16 20:03:01 [2012-01-16 20:57:34] just checking if it's fixed on ssu channel Jan 16 20:03:03 [2012-01-16 20:57:47] *** Kanalmodi: +Cn Jan 16 20:03:04 [ Jan 16 20:21:07 I'm just kickban-happy now, but neither estel_ nor any of his supporters is around anymore. Typical Jan 16 20:22:58 * DocScrutinizer finds out about estel_'s address, and calls the fire brigades in his name. Then points out "it's a big bug in how your fire protection is working!", and calls the brigades just another 5 times, to let estel_ know for good Jan 16 20:23:58 estel_, get rif of your phone!!!! So nobody could pretend anymore he's you when calling fire brigade Jan 16 20:24:13 * DocScrutinizer calls fire brigades a 6th time, in estel_'s name Jan 16 20:24:57 estel_, sucker, won't you say "thank you DocScrutinizer for testing this bug for me!", HUH?? Jan 16 20:25:43 DAMN, it's A KNOWN ISSUE, and the one who understands *least* about it, is YOU!! Jan 16 20:27:17 * DocScrutinizer goes beating up estel_ with a baseball bat, telling him with friendly voice "look dude, that'S a serious security flaw in your personal life. You should feel happy it's *ME* and not somebody even worse beating the shit out of you" Jan 16 20:28:32 DocScrutinizer: please stop trolling the channel with you vs Estel_ crap :| Jan 16 20:28:33 * DocScrutinizer turns to lava_croft to give him a taste about proper security testing, involving a baseball bat Jan 16 20:29:40 it's NOT "me vs estel" - it's estel vs infobot&IRC Jan 16 20:30:17 He's not even here, so why are you talking about it Jan 16 20:30:44 to let you all know why I will kicj the shit outa him next time he drops by Jan 16 20:31:12 Meh, he's helped me, I say leave it alone and forget about the problem Jan 16 20:31:20 Whatever he did with infobot doesn't effect me Jan 16 20:31:37 what a flavour of motron are YOU Sir? Jan 16 20:31:42 leave the problem alone? Jan 16 20:32:18 forget about infobot spamming dozens of channels with bullshit estel_ told him to do? Jan 16 20:32:31 It doesn't effect me Jan 16 20:32:44