**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Feb 07 02:59:58 2012
Feb 07 08:05:34 <fastlane`> hello everybody \o/
Feb 07 08:05:54 <fastlane`> i want to ask a lil question about flashing if ppl are still awake n reading :o
Feb 07 08:06:04 <fastlane`> well the q is
Feb 07 08:06:18 <fastlane`> i have kp48 installed along with multiboot and android
Feb 07 08:06:52 <fastlane`> not last night i tried my best to flash my device, but nothing worked, the flasher always wud get stuck in "waiting for device" msg
Feb 07 08:07:12 <fastlane`> flashing from ubuntu 32 bits btw
Feb 07 08:08:30 <fastlane`> now rebooted n900, flashed the stock kernel from n900, through the removal command of kp
Feb 07 08:08:52 <fastlane`> and then turned off n900 and then flashed again and the flashing worked
Feb 07 08:09:22 <fastlane`> so my question is, that can  a combination of multiboot and kp on n900 prevent device from getting flashed from the pc?
Feb 07 08:22:41 <Sicelo> anything is possible with multiboot, afaik
Feb 07 08:22:47 <Sicelo> ~multiboot
Feb 07 08:22:52 <Sicelo> ~multi-boot
Feb 07 08:22:59 <fastlane`> ty Sicelo 
Feb 07 08:23:04 <fastlane`> what my concern is
Feb 07 08:23:04 <Sicelo> ah, infobot's away
Feb 07 08:23:36 <fastlane`> that if i somehow mess up the device in such a way that its not booting up, and multiboot is still installed
Feb 07 08:23:46 <fastlane`> so i wont be able to flash like ever? so its stuck?
Feb 07 08:24:30 <fastlane`> but i thought that through the flasher, no matter what problem occured in the software, you shud be able to flash the device back to the reset state
Feb 07 08:24:48 <fastlane`> boot loaders etc shud not be able to stop the flash process
Feb 07 08:25:41 <Sicelo> i do think it should still flash.. but multiboot is, from what i can gather, a dangerous tool to use
Feb 07 08:27:21 <fastlane`> hmm yea, cuz i also think that the device's flash process shud be hardwired, and shud take priority over everything, no matter what is there or what is not or what has been overrided
Feb 07 10:35:56 <Pali> ping X-Fade
Feb 07 10:36:49 <X-Fade> Pali: pong
Feb 07 10:37:03 <Pali> X-Fade, there is problem with package kernel-power-settings
Feb 07 10:37:11 <Pali> bad md5 hash
Feb 07 10:37:34 <X-Fade> Pali: Then it got uploaded twice?
Feb 07 10:37:56 <Pali> There was missed last version v13 in extras-devel, so I uploaded it
Feb 07 10:38:30 <Pali> and seems that in repository is old md5 hash for that package
Feb 07 10:39:01 <X-Fade> You should never ever ever ever ever upload the same file with different content.
Feb 07 10:39:13 <Pali> I uploaded same file
Feb 07 10:39:18 <Pali> same tar.gz
Feb 07 10:39:21 <X-Fade> Then the md5 can't change
Feb 07 10:39:21 <Pali> same diff
Feb 07 10:39:31 <Pali> but autobuilder builded new deb
Feb 07 10:39:42 <Pali> and deb has new md5
Feb 07 10:39:56 <Pali> problem is with builded deb package
Feb 07 10:39:58 <X-Fade> But you must always increase version number
Feb 07 10:40:32 <X-Fade> Anyway, the way to fix this now is to just increase version number and upload again.
Feb 07 10:40:44 <Pali> will it work?
Feb 07 10:40:59 <X-Fade> of course
Feb 07 10:41:05 <Pali> ok I will try
Feb 07 10:41:21 <X-Fade> As long as you don't change numbering scheme or something else weird with the numbering.
Feb 07 10:41:33 <X-Fade> just +1 should work fine.
Feb 07 10:41:53 <Pali> actual version is 0.13
Feb 07 10:42:04 <Pali> should I upload 0.13.1
Feb 07 10:42:05 <Pali> ?
Feb 07 10:42:14 <X-Fade> 0.14 is fine?
Feb 07 10:42:31 <X-Fade> Numbers are free, don't complicate things too much :)
Feb 07 10:42:38 <Pali> ok
Feb 07 10:42:46 <Pali> so I push 0.14
Feb 07 10:44:23 <RST38h> Canonical is pulling funding for in-house developers to work on the KDE-based Kubuntu flavor. Canonical now seems committed to its single vision of a GNOME-based Unity as a desktop and other Ubuntu flavors will now have to rely on community support and some infrastructure from Canonical.
Feb 07 10:45:02 <X-Fade> Pali: but you can always check yourself with dpkg --compare-versions
Feb 07 10:45:33 <Pali> ok
Feb 07 10:45:52 <Pali> I uploaded 0.14, now waiting for autobuilder...
Feb 07 10:46:38 <X-Fade> Pali: dpkg --compare-versions 0.14 gt 0.13 && echo true
Feb 07 11:45:59 <Pali> is maemo.org down again?
Feb 07 11:55:56 <andre__> Pali, http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/maemo.org
Feb 07 11:57:18 <Pali> andree__, ok. I think that now I have problems with KDE :D Upgrade needs reboot...
Feb 07 12:10:17 <chem|st> DocScrutinizer: o/
Feb 07 12:10:46 <DocScrutinizer51> at work
Feb 07 13:40:47 <jonwil> hi
Feb 07 13:41:52 <jonwil> Too quiet around here :P
Feb 07 13:47:33 <Macer> we tired ourselves out bitching about nokia
Feb 07 13:52:00 <Gear_> hey, if I have an ssh connection to my phone, how do I make it take a photo through bash
Feb 07 13:53:07 <Gear_> the cover would already be open obviously, but how would I make it take a photo? and could you make it focus or anything first?
Feb 07 13:53:41 <Sicelo> phone-control package is the easiest to use
Feb 07 13:54:23 <Gear_> is that in the devel repository
Feb 07 13:55:31 <Sicelo> i don't remember .. my n900 is off atm.. possibly extras though
Feb 07 13:56:47 <Gear_> do you know the line of sight range of the wifi?
Feb 07 13:57:02 <Gear_> if my phone is up in the air attached to a kite and I'm using a netbook to control it
Feb 07 14:03:46 <Sicelo> u will have to wait for hardware gurus here :)
Feb 07 14:04:42 <Sicelo> all i know is that u will be better off disabling power-saving for wifi when u do that
Feb 07 14:40:18 <Pali> jonwil: what parts of microb browser did you RE?
Feb 07 14:41:35 <jonwil> I produced a dev package for browser-neteal
Feb 07 14:41:46 <jonwil> which is the library used by microb to talk to the browser daemon
Feb 07 14:43:21 <jonwil> -dev package produced using a bunch of bits and pieces from around the net (specifically those bits of the N900 browser that are open plus also some stuff from various older SVN repos containing browser code)
Feb 07 14:44:59 <jonwil> I also made the microb-eal-dev package (source code for which is available as part of the microb-eal source but binary was not in SDK repos)
Feb 07 14:45:54 <jonwil> I also took older source code I found for the browserd daemon
Feb 07 14:46:04 <jonwil> and modified it so it matched the N900 PR1.3 browserd
Feb 07 14:48:40 <jonwil> And also I took the browser-neteal-dev package I made and combined it with the tablet-browser-view-dev package and other packages and then proceeded to clone tablet-browser-view-test
Feb 07 14:48:52 <jonwil> which is a simple test app that tests out the tablet-browser-view widget
Feb 07 14:49:09 <jonwil> which IMO is the easiest way to embed the microb browser in your app
Feb 07 14:49:25 <jonwil> as it does lots of work for you 
Feb 07 14:49:53 <jonwil> Thats all I reverse enginereed
Feb 07 14:50:11 <jonwil> I never reverse engineered much of the browser UI because that was too complex to do
Feb 07 14:50:17 <jonwil> why did you want to know?
Feb 07 14:53:07 <jonwil> guess he went AFK :P
Feb 07 14:53:12 <jonwil> Pali: ping
Feb 07 14:54:20 <Pali> I'm asking to know how many components has microb closed
Feb 07 14:54:34 <Pali> and how hard is to rewritre it
Feb 07 14:54:45 <Pali> and use new upstream gecko engine
Feb 07 14:56:36 <jonwil> Given that the browserd daemon and all the important bits it links to are open source, replacing Gecko with a new one is in theory possible
Feb 07 14:56:55 <jonwil> Biggest issue would be the plugins and modules (specifically the Flash plugin and the Nokia Maps bits)
Feb 07 14:57:05 <jonwil> if the plugin API has changed and those things aren't compatible
Feb 07 14:58:21 <jonwil> the actual browser UI is still very much closed
Feb 07 14:58:35 <jonwil> but that has basically no links to the underlying Gecko engine
Feb 07 15:03:43 <Pali> flash plugin using standard NPAPI interface
Feb 07 15:08:41 <jonwil> yeah true but Nokia Maps is different and is using all sorts of Gecko APIs
Feb 07 15:09:40 <Pali> should be
Feb 07 15:11:33 <Pali> jonwil, any success with opened MCE?
Feb 07 15:11:44 <jonwil> nope
Feb 07 15:12:10 <jonwil> I tried to take oldest MCE source I could find and then reverse engineer N900 MCE to try and get a match
Feb 07 15:12:21 <jonwil> but too many changes between N900 Fremantle MCE
Feb 07 15:12:32 <jonwil> and oldest MCE in MeeGo GIT repo
Feb 07 15:13:31 <Pali> I think that other app only using dbus for communicating with MCE, so the dbus api was changed?
Feb 07 15:14:04 <jonwil> it wasn't the DBUS API so much, it was differences in other parts of 
Feb 07 15:14:09 <jonwil> other parts of the system
Feb 07 15:14:22 <jonwil> in any case it just isnt possible to get open MCE going without Nokia releasing source
Feb 07 15:14:33 <jonwil> or and ARM guru showing up to reverse engineer things
Feb 07 15:16:00 <Pali> and what is problem with opened mce? could not be full fremantle mce replaced by opened?
Feb 07 15:16:32 <jonwil> nope, as I said, too many differences in important places between Fremantle MCE and published MeeGo MCE source
Feb 07 15:17:14 <Pali> and what is different?
Feb 07 15:17:52 <Pali> I know that 3 fremantle mce modules missing in meego mce
Feb 07 15:18:39 <Pali> mce modules only communicate with kernel or not?
Feb 07 15:18:47 <jonwil> I dont know exactly what the things that are different do
Feb 07 15:18:52 <jonwil> but I know they do things that look important
Feb 07 15:19:29 <jonwil> I actually tested various things built from the open MeeGo MCE source on my N900 PR1.3 phone and nearly bricked it in the process
Feb 07 15:19:52 <jonwil> so that;'s why I feel comfortable saying that we cant do it without Nokia or an ARM guru
Feb 07 15:27:33 <Gear_> has anyone here installed ubuntu on an n900?
Feb 07 15:28:03 <guly> debian
Feb 07 16:03:29 <jonwil> so Pali, do you actually plan to do any work on browserd or otherwise or are you just asking for interests stake?
Feb 07 16:04:20 <Pali> jonwil, I just asked, because I saw some your emails about RE browserd
Feb 07 16:04:38 <jonwil> ok
Feb 07 16:06:03 <jonwil> I did browserd because it was fairly easy and it was the only notable closed-source component in that particular chain.
Feb 07 16:07:48 <jonwil> And I did the other stuff because I wanted to make it possible for people to embed the browser widget the same way Nokia does it
Feb 07 16:07:54 <jonwil> and talk directly to the browser daemon
Feb 07 16:08:01 <jonwil> instead of needing to pull all of Gecko into their app
Feb 07 16:16:36 <jonwil> Anyone here know anything about QT on the N900?
Feb 07 17:44:59 <merlin1991> Pali ping
Feb 07 17:45:15 <merlin1991> silly me, he isn't here anymore :D
Feb 07 19:33:03 <WereCatf> I am toying around with my N900 and one thing I notice is that all kernels available are at most 2.6.28.. Do the newer kernels lack some essential drivers that would prevent them from working? E.g. would 3.3.0-rc2 not work on N900?
Feb 07 19:38:47 <ShadowJK> yes
Feb 07 19:39:10 <WereCatf> Is that "Yes, it would not work" or "Yes, it would"? :D
Feb 07 19:39:22 <ShadowJK> yes :)
Feb 07 19:39:31 <ShadowJK> userspace is a problem
Feb 07 19:39:58 <ShadowJK> In the context of Meego/Mer/Neomobile there's newer kernel
Feb 07 19:39:59 <WereCatf> I am going to install Gentoo anyways, just for the sake of doing it
Feb 07 19:40:11 <WereCatf> And I thought to get a modern kernel while at it
Feb 07 19:40:13 <ShadowJK> but Maemo userspace is kinda locked to 2.6.28
Feb 07 19:42:40 <WereCatf> That was kind of short-sighted from Nokia. Then again, they killed Maemo, so..
Feb 07 19:42:54 <DocScrutinizer51> chem|st: 9/
Feb 07 19:43:00 <timeless> WereCatf: that's unfair
Feb 07 19:43:07 <timeless> calling it short-sighted
Feb 07 19:43:17 <timeless> it's more like 'by-design'
Feb 07 19:43:37 <timeless> a device gets certified for a network based on its complete stack (more or less)
Feb 07 19:43:50 <timeless> changing the kernel could easily leave it w/ an uncertified stack
Feb 07 19:44:10 <timeless> should nokia have provided a perpetually free certification lab for all future kernels?
Feb 07 19:44:29 <timeless> (that's a complete building or payment supply to rent someone else's testing/validation services)
Feb 07 19:46:01 <timeless> WereCatf: no modern smart phones are supported for >4 years
Feb 07 19:46:12 <timeless> you're an Apple user if you get 3 years
Feb 07 19:46:49 <lofty306> so how long till i must head either to cssu or another flavor ?
Feb 07 19:47:25 <DocScrutinizer51> timeless: what kinda cert r u talking bout here?
Feb 07 19:48:04 <ShadowJK> depends
Feb 07 19:48:21 * ShadowJK is still using stock diablo kernel and OS on N8x0 :P
Feb 07 19:48:58 <lofty306> ok
Feb 07 19:49:10 <DocScrutinizer51> timeless: unlike a@lot of andridiot phones where network/modem and APE kernel share same RAM, on N900 you got a built in USB 3G dongle
Feb 07 19:49:16 <timeless> DocScrutinizer51: there are things that have to be certified, i didn't get to keep the diagrams, i left nokia :)
Feb 07 19:50:27 <DocScrutinizer51> those 'things' (like abiltiy for 911) apply only for factory state of device
Feb 07 19:51:06 <DocScrutinizer51> it's up to the user to deliberately break them with a kernel update
Feb 07 19:51:16 <lofty306> :)
Feb 07 19:52:02 <DocScrutinizer51> as long as you can't turn the phone into sth rogue, regarding general public
Feb 07 19:54:52 <lofty306> dose the cssu have all the functionality of the stock and far as all chips supported? 
Feb 07 19:55:06 <lofty306> eeverything workiing?
Feb 07 19:55:08 <DocScrutinizer51> as that'smy domain now ;-)
Feb 07 19:55:27 <DocScrutinizer51> yes
Feb 07 19:56:19 <lofty306> kool
Feb 07 19:56:42 <lofty306> i  mean like thoes bits that were propriataary  and aaall
Feb 07 19:57:28 <DocScrutinizer51> cssu is an update
Feb 07 19:58:08 <lofty306> i havent read  much on it other than cant go back if i do it  so imm just getting all theiinfo i can
Feb 07 19:58:09 <DocScrutinizer51> as the name gives away
Feb 07 19:58:51 <lofty306> k
Feb 07 19:59:44 <DocScrutinizer51> cssu aka  maemo1337
Feb 07 19:59:54 <lofty306> thnx DocScrutinizer 
Feb 07 20:00:11 <DocScrutinizer51> were you able to go back from maemo13 to 12?
Feb 07 20:00:11 <lofty306> ive not been paying attention for a while
Feb 07 20:00:35 <lofty306> i geuss i never thought about it   b4
Feb 07 20:01:12 <DocScrutinizer51> you not think about going back from cssu to stock either :)
Feb 07 20:01:26 <lofty306> and do you know what pkg the chat feature was a part of so i can deal with the notice that it no longer exists
Feb 07 20:01:46 <lofty306> lol
Feb 07 20:03:57 <lofty306> well i just didnt want to go forward to the left  and wind up with a papereweight
Feb 07 20:04:57 <DocScrutinizer51> ont happen
Feb 07 20:05:05 <DocScrutinizer51> wont
Feb 07 20:05:08 <lofty306> :)))
Feb 07 20:05:22 <lofty306> kool thnx DocScrutinizer 
Feb 07 20:05:32 <lofty306> you aleviate  my fear
Feb 07 20:05:42 <lofty306> i just like this soooo much
Feb 07 20:06:16 <lofty306> sill
Feb 07 20:06:19 <lofty306> still
Feb 07 20:08:12 <Raimu-X> Yeah, I wouldn't run stock anymore since CSSU is just maemo with things fixed and features added.
Feb 07 20:08:37 <DocScrutinizer51> indeed
Feb 07 20:08:45 <lofty306> YEAH?
Feb 07 20:09:00 <Raimu-X> lofty306, it just essentially took over the updating since Nokia obviously wasn't gonna fix everything they left slightly borked.
Feb 07 20:09:28 <lofty306> okk
Feb 07 20:09:47 <lofty306> so this is what i was waiting for then!
Feb 07 20:10:29 <lofty306> get nokia outta the way and things got doone
Feb 07 20:10:54 <DocScrutinizer51> as far as we were able
Feb 07 20:12:06 <lofty306> so they still holld back some 
Feb 07 20:12:24 <lofty306> soome of the code
Feb 07 20:12:26 <lofty306> ?
Feb 07 20:13:21 <DocScrutinizer51> sure
Feb 07 20:14:19 <lofty306> updates still push the same way ?
Feb 07 20:14:30 <DocScrutinizer51> sure
Feb 07 20:14:43 <lofty306> i thinks thats my last q  
Feb 07 20:15:18 <DocScrutinizer51> as until you get blue in the face :-D welcome
Feb 07 20:15:25 <DocScrutinizer51> ask*
Feb 07 20:15:32 <lofty306> kool
Feb 07 20:17:17 <lofty306> i realy think that is all  the cssu i have to install from pc?
Feb 07 20:17:38 <DocScrutinizer51> the major pita being the closed PIM+dialer integration, as you can't break out a single block and recode it like moh did with mediaplayer
Feb 07 20:18:09 <DocScrutinizer51> lofty306: you don't install cssu from PC
Feb 07 20:18:17 <lofty306> u dooont?
Feb 07 20:18:24 <lofty306> glad i assked
Feb 07 20:18:33 <DocScrutinizer51> no, it's an update!
Feb 07 20:19:34 * lofty306 looks
Feb 07 20:20:08 <DocScrutinizer51> ~cssu
Feb 07 20:20:29 <DocScrutinizer51> eeeew infobot gone again
Feb 07 20:20:32 <DocScrutinizer51> bitch
Feb 07 20:21:33 <lofty306> lol do i gotta grab it via apt-get or zypper  it thats still around?
Feb 07 20:23:20 <Raimu-X> lofty306: Nu-uh. Browse with your N900 to http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU and click on the CSSU flavour you want to install, it'll happen then.
Feb 07 20:24:06 <lofty306> thats what i read  that makes sense
Feb 07 20:32:17 <lofty306> thnx Raimu-X , DocScrutinizer  maybe after  lunch if theppaainters dont drive me out of here 
Feb 07 20:32:33 <lofty306> thnx Raimu-X , DocScrutinizer  maybe after  lunch if the painters dont drive me out of here 
Feb 07 20:32:45 <Raimu-X> Take your time, you know.
Feb 07 20:32:48 <Raimu-X> Read up on it.
Feb 07 20:33:29 <Raimu-X> Know the difference between "stable" and "testing" and think about it.
Feb 07 20:34:54 <lofty306> i do
Feb 07 20:35:29 <lofty306> but  will read  gotta read  
Feb 07 20:39:38 <DocScrutinizer> I wholeheartedly recommend CSSU-stable
Feb 07 20:42:31 <DocScrutinizer> lofty306: ideally you'll wonder if you succeeded at all to update, after you "installed" CSSU-Stable
Feb 07 20:43:43 <DocScrutinizer> lofty306: as in stable everything should default to "stock alike" settings, so OOTB the experience on CSSU-S should be almost indistinguishable from stock maemo.1.3.1
Feb 07 20:44:29 <DocScrutinizer> until you enable some of the enhancements, via gconftool or cssu-tweaker or whatever the names
Feb 07 20:44:49 <DocScrutinizer> MHD alone is worth it
Feb 07 20:49:26 <DocScrutinizer> lofty306: (from http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools, too lazy to write it again :-D  )  ::
Feb 07 20:49:41 <DocScrutinizer> # set ctl-BS to my preferred operation mode, ''also for CSSU!!''
Feb 07 20:49:43 <DocScrutinizer> #
Feb 07 20:49:44 <DocScrutinizer> # As it seems I haven't documented it elsewhere, here are the nifty 
Feb 07 20:49:46 <DocScrutinizer> # keypress-sequences.
Feb 07 20:49:47 <DocScrutinizer> #      (C=control, B=backspace, Cd=control-press-and-hold, Cu=control-release)
Feb 07 20:49:49 <DocScrutinizer> # Cd,Bd = open taskswitcher; Bu,Bd = roll forward; Cu,Cd = roll-backward
Feb 07 20:49:50 <DocScrutinizer> # Bu,Cu = select upper leftmost / Cu,Bu = keep taskswitcher open
Feb 07 20:49:52 <DocScrutinizer> # with taskswitcher open: 
Feb 07 20:49:53 <DocScrutinizer> #  "q"|"w"|"e"\"a"|"s"|"f"... select app at that pos
Feb 07 20:49:55 <DocScrutinizer> #  Shift+"q"|"w"... close that app
Feb 07 20:49:56 <DocScrutinizer> gconftool-2 -s \
Feb 07 20:49:58 <DocScrutinizer>  /apps/osso/hildon-desktop/key-actions/ctrl_backspace_in_tasknav -t int 5
Feb 07 20:52:06 <DocScrutinizer> .
Feb 07 20:52:10 <DocScrutinizer> http://share.ovi.com/media/joerg900.screenshots/joerg900.10092 video
Feb 07 20:53:42 <DocScrutinizer> so friigin cool that your iPhone friends will get green of envy
Feb 07 21:44:47 <trumee> DocScrutinizer: gconftool-2 -s /apps/osso/hildon-desktop/key-actions/ctrl_backspace_in_tasknav -t int 0 to revert back?
Feb 07 21:45:16 <DocScrutinizer> err sure
Feb 07 21:45:26 <DocScrutinizer> or delete the whole key
Feb 07 21:46:06 <trumee> DocScrutinizer: how?
Feb 07 21:46:28 <DocScrutinizer> gconftool --help
Feb 07 21:48:15 <lofty306> thn DocScrutinizer i see the paste
Feb 07 21:48:24 <lofty306> was doing lunch
Feb 07 21:51:47 <lofty306> nice  vid
Feb 07 21:57:24 <Macer> video?
Feb 07 21:58:19 <lofty306> just the outta focus thing of the task switcher
Feb 07 21:58:46 <lofty306> http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools  that
Feb 07 21:59:23 <lofty306> err...   that >> http://share.ovi.com/media/joerg900.screenshots/joerg900.10092
Feb 07 22:08:14 <DocScrutinizer> lofty306: yeah, sorry for the poor focus
Feb 07 22:08:38 <DocScrutinizer> hard to do decent sceenshot vids with a video camera like N900 :-D
Feb 07 22:09:06 <DocScrutinizer> esp when you got no and free to hold the friggin cam
Feb 07 22:11:26 <DocScrutinizer> I mean, if at least that thing had a holder with stand, or sth
Feb 07 22:11:52 <DocScrutinizer> don't ask me how I managed to take that video ;-P
Feb 07 22:17:41 <lofty306> hehehee
Feb 07 22:18:01 <lofty306> been there dooone that
Feb 07 22:18:36 <lofty306> but geet the gist
Feb 07 23:00:25 <pronto> woah, the movie "Seeking Justice" has a nokia n900 in it o.O
Feb 07 23:00:28 <pronto> http://i.imgur.com/gWqCA.jpg  << 
Feb 07 23:02:57 <Vib3> hi
Feb 07 23:07:24 <Vib3> DocScrutinizer: are you here? :p
Feb 07 23:08:55 <DocScrutinizer> no
Feb 07 23:09:50 <Vib3> hehe
Feb 07 23:10:13 <Vib3> DocScrutinizer: have already checked my issue on "USB hostmode beta release" section in forum :p
Feb 07 23:10:25 <DocScrutinizer> hmm?
Feb 07 23:10:50 <Vib3> DocScrutinizer: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=65232&page=99
Feb 07 23:12:21 <DocScrutinizer> sorry, this looks like pali's bq24150 kernel charger thingie, nfc about that
Feb 07 23:13:56 <DocScrutinizer> http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1023402#post1023402
Feb 07 23:15:14 <DocScrutinizer> wtf, all the links are *self
Feb 07 23:16:13 <Vib3> k, thought that pali bounced that thing to you :p
Feb 07 23:16:22 <Vib3> hmmm maybe I try that
Feb 07 23:17:22 <Vib3> DocScrutinizer: I just need to get active usb-hub working in hostmode + charging n900 at the same time
Feb 07 23:18:13 <Raimu-X> Y'
Feb 07 23:18:16 <Raimu-X> ...fuck
Feb 07 23:18:45 <Raimu-X> This is probably a noobish question, but what do the full-intermediate-off toggles in the WiFi power saving menu for n900 actually do?
Feb 07 23:19:16 <Raimu-X> It's just "yeah do this" here and "no do that" there and I just didn't find a thread or a wiki that explained anything. The manual, I recall, wasn't informative on it either.
Feb 07 23:19:47 <DocScrutinizer> Vib3: there's a hostmode-charging post on this thread, posted by me, and working
Feb 07 23:22:05 <DocScrutinizer> Vib3: can't find the bookmark, you may ask infobot as soon as she joins again: ~hostmode-charging
Feb 07 23:22:11 <DocScrutinizer> or 
Feb 07 23:22:17 <DocScrutinizer> ~powered-hostmode 
Feb 07 23:22:19 <DocScrutinizer> iirc
Feb 07 23:22:42 <Vib3> DocScrutinizer: you mean this? -> http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=921203#post921203
Feb 07 23:23:10 <DocScrutinizer> yes
Feb 07 23:30:44 <Vib3> DocScrutinizer: that link to charge script not working anymore..
Feb 07 23:33:54 <Vib3> found another and fixing it cos it has corrupted marks
Feb 07 23:34:24 <DocScrutinizer> http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/sbin/booston
Feb 07 23:36:11 <DocScrutinizer> http://enivax.net/jk/n900/old/charge.sh.txt
Feb 07 23:36:36 <DocScrutinizer> it has what?
Feb 07 23:37:40 <Vib3> charset issue..
Feb 07 23:39:18 <Vib3> thx
Feb 07 23:54:48 <Vib3> its charging, mmmmm
Feb 08 00:06:38 <Vib3> more tomorrow, sleep ->
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