**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Feb 12 02:59:56 2012
Feb 12 06:14:32 <Addison> Greetings everyone.  :)
Feb 12 06:16:56 <Addison> Anyone here still conscious?
Feb 12 06:17:20 <SpeedEvil> What.
Feb 12 06:17:41 <Addison> I was asking if anyone here was still awake.  :)
Feb 12 06:55:28 <beford> i am
Feb 12 06:55:31 <beford> kinda
Feb 12 10:50:33 <Pali> ping merlin1991
Feb 12 10:56:54 <merlin1991> Pali: pong
Feb 12 10:56:59 <merlin1991> and no I didn't reach X-Fade
Feb 12 10:57:33 <Pali> merlin1991, I have another problem with package interface, but maybe this you solve
Feb 12 10:57:41 <merlin1991> and that would be?
Feb 12 10:57:53 <Pali> I want to promote package: http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-testing_free_armel/slovak-l10n/21.2011.38-1-1/
Feb 12 10:58:08 <Pali> but it show me error: Can not continue promotion, because dependency package mp-fremantle-generic-pr is a user section package and needs to be promoted first!
Feb 12 10:59:44 <merlin1991> hm seems to be also something for X-Fade
Feb 12 11:00:25 <merlin1991> I'll keep trying to reach him
Feb 12 11:00:35 <Pali> ok
Feb 12 11:00:51 <Pali> kernel-power-settings package is fixed (I uploaded new version)
Feb 12 11:02:21 <merlin1991> oaky
Feb 12 14:12:18 <Pali> anybody know if apt-x codec is supported in maemo?
Feb 12 14:13:06 <Pali> (for bluetooth audio headphones)
Feb 12 14:55:27 <dreamer> wow, why do I just now hear of CSSU
Feb 12 14:55:35 * dreamer runs backupmenu and try it
Feb 12 16:45:21 <dreamer> great, now my n900 won't connect to my wifi network anymore -_-
Feb 12 16:47:17 <Sicelo> something else is the issue
Feb 12 16:47:31 <Sicelo> which CSSU did u install? Stable or Testing?
Feb 12 16:49:20 <dreamer> Sicelo: stable
Feb 12 16:49:34 <dreamer> I still need to run the update on cssu and a bunch of qt-stuff
Feb 12 16:50:04 <Sicelo> ok. i'm also on stable
Feb 12 16:50:22 <dreamer> very strange that I can't connect anymore
Feb 12 16:50:26 <dreamer> it's an open network even
Feb 12 16:52:01 <Sicelo> i'd check dmesg, even though it doesn't contain enough detail.. but it's a start.
Feb 12 16:56:34 <dreamer> Sicelo: not really anything there
Feb 12 16:56:46 <dreamer> it associates with the AP, just not getting/registering an ip
Feb 12 16:57:02 <dreamer> I tried 10 times now, even rebooted
Feb 12 16:57:09 <dreamer> the AP is fine, I have other devices connected to it
Feb 12 16:57:30 <dreamer> (and I used it on the n900 before as well)
Feb 12 17:24:20 <Sicelo> atm i have no idea what could cause your issue, but CSSU is definitely not it, esp. as u are on Stable
Feb 12 18:14:12 <dreamer> weird, suddenly it can connect again ..
Feb 12 18:16:20 <Sicelo> :)
Feb 12 18:27:00 <dreamer> eh, hmm. so there's something with the transitions.ini, CSSU Features says it doesn't have all the expected options
Feb 12 18:27:11 <dreamer> should I have it fix it?
Feb 12 18:28:04 <Sicelo> hmm, up to u. i didn't do anything to mine. then again, i'm not too concerned with looks and 'fancy' stuff :)
Feb 12 18:28:18 <Sicelo> btw, u may want to /join #maemo-ssu
Feb 12 18:33:55 <dreamer> Sicelo: well I can either 'Fix Config', 'Restore Default' or 'Exit'
Feb 12 18:34:36 <Sicelo> i'd choose Restore Default
Feb 12 19:30:19 <sanova> hi
Feb 12 19:33:38 <sanova> i have just installed maemo-geolocation and google-latitude on n900. if i try to connect to google.com/maps/m it redirects me to ordinary google.com/maps. is there any problem using google maps mobile with maemo-geolocation extension for microB ?
Feb 12 20:57:00 <x29a> sanova: are you sending some modified user-agent?
Feb 12 22:39:32 <Macer> alrighty
Feb 12 22:39:37 <Macer> time to bust out the n810 and put debian on it
Feb 12 22:39:46 <Macer> or anything else
Feb 12 22:39:56 <Macer> anybody know a site that explains how to do this without a chroot?
Feb 12 22:40:12 <Macer> ah crap. i totally forgot. i need a damn SD probably
Feb 12 22:40:13 <Macer> ugh
Feb 12 22:40:21 <Macer> A MINI SD.. wtf uses that crap? lol
Feb 12 22:40:25 <Macer> i'd have to find an adapter
Feb 13 01:10:03 <jrayhawk_> Macer: Deblet is probably the way to go for that; I had success installing that and upgrading it to lenny with udev held.
Feb 13 01:10:13 <jrayhawk_> If you want I can probably shove a tar file of that somewhere.
Feb 13 01:13:31 <vizzy> hi, i wonder where i can get FCamera drivers v0.1.7-2 , i only see 1.7-2 in my list
Feb 13 01:16:21 <vizzy> it says its in testing, but i only see old version in testing repo
Feb 13 01:17:00 <robbiethe1st> check devel?
Feb 13 01:17:52 <vizzy> and here i also only see old version http://fcam.garage.maemo.org/download.html
Feb 13 01:18:19 <vizzy> robbiethe1st, so what will happen if i enable dev repo? wont it upgrade all apps to devel stage? 
Feb 13 01:18:57 <vizzy> i wonder why its in devel and not in testing , at least because it fixes issues with power kernel etc
Feb 13 01:18:59 <robbiethe1st> Uh, if you do an apt-get upgrade with it enabled, and you don't have apt-pinning setup, yes
Feb 13 01:19:21 <vizzy> so its save to enable devel repo to just install fcam?
Feb 13 01:19:55 <vizzy> i wonder where i can see that package only, is there a list of devel packages somewhere? i like to see if its there before doing wuch dangerous things like devel repo :))
Feb 13 01:20:20 <vizzy> but if theres nothing on http://fcam.garage.maemo.org/download.html, why should it be in the repo?
Feb 13 01:20:29 <robbiethe1st> http://maemo.org/packages/
Feb 13 01:20:35 <robbiethe1st> search there
Feb 13 01:22:20 <vizzy> only old version!
Feb 13 01:22:40 <vizzy> argh, wtf? why is everybody talking about a new version in the forums if its just not existing
Feb 13 01:23:49 <robbiethe1st> http://maemo.org/packages/view/fcam-drivers/ I see 1.0.7-2 there
Feb 13 01:24:11 <Macer> jrayhawk_: heh. maybe later. i need to order a minisd adapter first :-P
Feb 13 01:24:14 <vizzy> i searched for fcamera, there should be a new version too
Feb 13 01:24:15 <Macer> damn you nokia!
Feb 13 01:24:17 <vizzy> hmmm
Feb 13 01:24:48 <vizzy> robbiethe1st, cool, thx, yeah its in devel....
Feb 13 01:25:02 <robbiethe1st> NP
Feb 13 01:25:21 <Macer> heh. i still just use the stock cam stuff.. but i'm not really too into the cam
Feb 13 01:26:00 <vizzy> Macer, yepp, it works, but its a pain in usage
Feb 13 01:26:24 <vizzy> no black/white images etc, missing almost all features of a camera
Feb 13 01:27:03 <vizzy> i wonder why they put a 5mp cam in the device and not able to make a nice software for it and wait until some geeky coders will release a new software
Feb 13 01:27:15 <robbiethe1st> I found fcam to be quite interesting to mess with - you can change the shutter time etc, and turn a mostly-dark room into something actually visible on camera
Feb 13 01:27:26 <robbiethe1st> Something that with the stock camera app would be totally black
Feb 13 01:27:41 <vizzy> robbiethe1st, exactly what i want :)
Feb 13 01:28:51 <vizzy> i still have a darkroom and do ananlog black and white images , so i love to see an app thats making pictures the way i want *g
Feb 13 01:37:59 <vizzy> oops
Feb 13 01:38:09 <vizzy> opt (home system is full)
Feb 13 01:38:45 <vizzy> i mean opt (home)  :) is there a quick way to fix it? seems opkg doesnt check free space before installing, hehe
Feb 13 01:46:29 <robbiethe1st> Uh, delete files one way or another?
Feb 13 01:51:37 <newbie007> hi, I'm looking at some C code for a desktop widget. I'm seeing some code like this: _("A String")  What is this _ operator?
Feb 13 01:57:35 <cehteh> usually thats only a macro for gettext utils for translating programm messages
Feb 13 01:58:15 <newbie007> ah, makes since
Feb 13 01:58:21 <newbie007> thanks!
Feb 13 01:59:06 <newbie007> I didn't understand how the tranlation was working anyhow
Feb 13 02:00:12 <vizzy> robbiethe1st, yeah, jad to clean the package cache, which was 400mb, but now have to install some apps after another and remove them to remove broken files...
Feb 13 02:00:15 <vizzy> phew
Feb 13 02:00:48 <vizzy> lol, now i got unmet dependencies or problems when trying to install broken packages which are not marked as installed... erm
Feb 13 02:01:30 <robbiethe1st> You may have to manually install some stuff using dpkg
Feb 13 02:01:35 <vizzy> frogatto ....
Feb 13 02:01:56 <vizzy> this is what happens when i try to install a game :)) 
Feb 13 02:02:17 <vizzy> so, its getting a console adventure instead of a nice grc game , hahahahaha
Feb 13 02:03:26 <kg> is there a good starters guide easily accessible?
Feb 13 02:07:28 <vizzy> ah, jammo was broken, purged, and then i could also purge the rest
Feb 13 02:39:52 * newbie007 wonders how many n900 fans will switch to openmoko when they want to upgrade
Feb 13 02:43:12 <wmarone> newbie007: you mean software or hardware?
Feb 13 02:43:32 <wmarone> cause if I want to upgrade the software, i'd probably go for nemo mobile or a build of cordia hd
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