**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Feb 13 02:59:58 2012 Feb 13 03:26:40 newbie007, erm... only 800mhz a8 processor? Not exactly a big upgrade Feb 13 03:27:17 well the deal is that I cannot purchase a new n900 Feb 13 03:27:49 2 years from now, when I want to update. I'm not going android, mac, win if I can avoid it Feb 13 03:28:38 True, I'd be looking at something running, say, kubuntu mobile Feb 13 03:29:00 if I were a nokia dev I'd get out a script to get maemo running on a nook color (at first to get more influence) and then start targeting some android device Feb 13 03:30:06 on my xoom I'm going to try to get a debian/kde plasma Feb 13 03:30:28 unless I can get hildon-desktop that is. I can't figure how to not use Xephyr Feb 13 03:37:16 I think the big tele companies do not want a cell on an open platform. They want secret GPS, backdoors, and some assurance that there will not be an application that wipes out their monopoly Feb 13 03:38:02 there is a word for that: iphone :)))) Feb 13 03:41:54 btw, a 'new' n900 i got for eur 80 Feb 13 03:42:34 goos luck when bidding, bad description of item but i excellent condition with all accessoires ad a otter box Feb 13 03:42:54 i never thought i will own a n900 in these days Feb 13 03:43:57 its great as a mini comouter, but not for phone calls , due to small battery, therefore i use my new old n82 Feb 13 03:44:41 btw, is there an apache/mysql/php port for maemo on n900? Feb 13 03:46:57 i see php and mysql, but no apache, only monoapache module and something for logging Feb 13 03:50:22 Um, check devel Feb 13 03:50:39 I'm sure you could run it through EasyDebian/any chroot if you wanted Feb 13 03:51:54 so whats the difference from maemo downloads and packages? i dont get it, what is os2008 os2009 and all that? whats running on my n900? Feb 13 03:52:33 its very confusing, i miss a read this first page where all that secrets are explained... mhmmm Feb 13 03:53:25 Fremantle is running on the N900 Feb 13 03:55:11 ah ok, so i can forget about osxxxx Feb 13 03:55:25 so maemo 5 is freemantle? Feb 13 03:56:29 so the search returns no results for apache, mysql or php :( Feb 13 03:56:59 seems i need a quick and easy howto on how to set up a crosscompile environment for the n900 Feb 13 04:00:59 ok, but first i need to find a proper app to make a custom menu, mymenu always kills my widgets or so for some reason and i heared about lots of trouble when uninstalling it.... hmpf Feb 13 08:30:27 ping X-Fade Feb 13 08:33:06 i had install metasploit in N900 ,i want use db command in metasploit,so i execute:gem1.8 install mysql ,but fail! Feb 13 09:09:10 ~seen X-Fade Feb 13 09:10:18 oh, infobot is offline Feb 13 10:17:37 x29a: no, any user-agent. Do i have to send one? Feb 13 11:18:57 "Even in the hearts of Apple fanbois, there's room to love another human being as well as machinery. But it's better if the human receiving that love also has an iPad, say those who are presumably experts in the matter." Feb 13 11:19:10 'There are more boys than girls, but it's not a problem' Feb 13 12:06:42 http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Trustwave-issued-a-man-in-the-middle-certificate-1429982.html - fun Feb 13 12:23:45 ouch, it really is a pita that most apps destroy desktop widgets ..... why is that so hard? Feb 13 12:24:59 mymenu, catorize, appmefo, ... argh Feb 13 12:25:42 at least desktop activity thingy will render the device a bit useless.... hell! Feb 13 13:56:17 apmefo doesn't destroy desktop widgets for all I know, I'm using it since a year or longer Feb 13 13:57:07 then it must be mymenu Feb 13 13:57:18 ill remove it and use tricks to restore Feb 13 14:48:43 has anybody tried nemo mobile? Feb 13 14:50:08 I thought about it, but I couldn't find it. Feb 13 14:50:21 er Feb 13 14:50:36 http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing Feb 13 14:51:00 i'm about to try it .. well, not nemo per se, but to boot debian using nemo's kernel & modules Feb 13 14:51:06 * SpeedEvil watches the pun fly clean over Macers head. Feb 13 14:51:28 :-P it was a bad pun Feb 13 14:51:41 Sicelo: let me know how it goes ;) Feb 13 14:51:49 i was more so curios about the meego ux Feb 13 14:51:59 i wonder if hte ui is worth the trouble Feb 13 14:57:00 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqEfiy_nguY&feature=youtube_gdata_player Feb 13 14:57:05 no...fking.. way Feb 13 14:57:13 n900 portable brain scanner? Feb 13 15:03:45 DocScrutinizer: hello. Feb 13 15:03:58 DocScrutinizer: which side of the PCB is the CPU on? Feb 13 15:04:38 vi__: why? Feb 13 15:04:51 humor me. Feb 13 15:04:53 I think it's battery-side, but I'm not very sure. Feb 13 15:05:07 http://maemo.cloud-7.de/Gallery-N900-exploded/n900_12.jpeg Feb 13 15:05:18 I am having difficulty spotting it. Feb 13 15:06:00 http://maemo.cloud-7.de/Gallery-N900-exploded/n900_01.jpeg Feb 13 15:06:32 It's under the RAM chip Feb 13 15:06:51 the RAM is the toshiba chip? Feb 13 15:07:50 No wait, that is the gazoo Feb 13 15:10:13 srsly, which one is it? Feb 13 15:10:42 vi__: lmc hold on a sec Feb 13 15:11:06 vi__: it's not on those pictures Feb 13 15:12:36 is it still covered by RF shield? Feb 13 15:13:11 vi__: it's under the ram - i.e. under the chip with TOSHIBA on Feb 13 15:13:30 vi__: it's called package-on-package Feb 13 15:14:09 wut? Feb 13 15:14:26 There is a chip ON TOP of another chip? Feb 13 15:15:31 Literally above the toshiba chip? I though he meant above it on the image. Feb 13 15:15:58 is taht what you mean? Feb 13 15:16:03 ^that Feb 13 15:16:39 vi__: litterally, its between the toshiba chip and the pcb Feb 13 15:16:57 robtaylor: kinky Feb 13 15:18:26 <[DarkGUNMAN]> vi_: nice job getting Davy's test device Feb 13 15:18:41 [DarkGUNMAN]: heh. Feb 13 15:19:00 It is good to see somone opening up a whole new dimension of 'appz' Feb 13 15:19:23 besides, with our generosity and a dev device he may be inclined to do some other stuff too. Feb 13 15:19:26 who knows Feb 13 15:19:53 Sorry - missed a bit Feb 13 15:19:55 <[DarkGUNMAN]> I'm just gald he decided to have a go at it, seeing the work he'd done on other platforms Feb 13 15:19:58 Stupid X GPUs Feb 13 15:20:02 I have never seen an n900 in such a sorry state though. Feb 13 15:20:09 ^driver Feb 13 15:20:26 pr 1.1, no extras repo. Feb 13 15:20:39 <[DarkGUNMAN]> might be worth getting a replacement screen if theres anything left of the fund Feb 13 15:20:46 digitiser is totally shagged. Feb 13 15:20:56 but still works. Feb 13 15:21:23 Surprisingly the LCD is in good condition, none of the white spots that tend to appear on 'aged' n900s Feb 13 15:21:59 I did have a spare LCD but phedders never mailed it back yet. Feb 13 15:22:01 grr. Feb 13 15:22:33 <[DarkGUNMAN]> I'm going to order a replacement for mine, as well as a new stylus since I lost mine last week Feb 13 15:22:52 <[DarkGUNMAN]> its ok but has a scratch and a rough bit Feb 13 15:23:04 I will put it to TMO, if anyone has a spare digitiser/stylus and davyp will wait a little longer I can fit it. Feb 13 15:23:16 Or IO can just mail it to him as-is Feb 13 15:23:27 It works fine, just looks a bit fucked. Feb 13 15:23:40 also I think it has been in water. Feb 13 15:23:48 There is some corrosion inside. Feb 13 15:23:55 <[DarkGUNMAN]> worth asking Feb 13 15:25:58 I have also put CSSU stable on it... Feb 13 15:26:16 digitiser? Feb 13 15:26:23 Anyone who has not moved onto CSSU stable will probably not be interested in cutting edge features like j2me anyway. Feb 13 15:27:17 what makes it so bad is new n900s on amazon range from 400-900 Feb 13 15:27:23 i got mine on ebay for 250 Feb 13 15:28:37 Macer: Digitiser! Feb 13 15:29:04 well this one cost ~66GBP Feb 13 15:29:11 no. my n900 Feb 13 15:29:27 oh Feb 13 15:29:33 lol Feb 13 15:29:37 which is ~$100 Feb 13 15:29:58 plus the 5 times shipping it and parts? ;) Feb 13 15:33:46 jaylist has asked me to try and do the same for an n9. Feb 13 15:34:30 well.. whatever produces progress heh Feb 13 15:34:45 My feelings on n9s are well advertised. Feb 13 15:35:10 i'm curious about this nemo mobile mer/meego based stuff Feb 13 15:35:14 wonder how functional it is Feb 13 15:35:43 same here Feb 13 15:35:56 maemo 5 is a fucking fugly hackjob Feb 13 15:36:10 I could shit a better filesystem layout. Feb 13 15:36:12 from what someone told me in #meego a little while ago it is supposed to be rather functional Feb 13 15:36:30 vi__: i'm no developer but i can assume you can see that just from the sdk Feb 13 15:36:40 they need to find out whoever made it and just burn them alive Feb 13 15:36:56 but nokia wasn't really goo committed to the n900 Feb 13 15:37:19 I want to experiance meego, however hosing my device just to try it does not appeal... Feb 13 15:37:33 nosing? Feb 13 15:37:36 hosing? Feb 13 15:37:51 i thought it was a basic uboot/sd copy Feb 13 15:37:56 for the full fat meego test, you have to install to emmc Feb 13 15:38:01 oh Feb 13 15:38:06 you mean the actual meego heh Feb 13 15:38:32 can't you just load the kernel and boot off sd as well via usb? Feb 13 15:38:53 yeh, but it would be all slow. Feb 13 15:39:01 that's how i tried it last time.. but it was absolutely awful... like pre-alpha ui Feb 13 15:39:13 but at least you would know it works ;) Feb 13 15:39:18 heh. Feb 13 15:39:33 What I really wanted was meego+hildon desktop. Feb 13 15:39:51 personally i think hildon has held everything up Feb 13 15:40:01 really? Feb 13 15:40:02 like i said. not a dev but from what i can gather there is too much of it closed off Feb 13 15:40:12 i never understood why it wasn't scrapped altogether Feb 13 15:40:13 but it is the most thumb friendly thing yet. Feb 13 15:40:25 hildon is open...AFAIK. Feb 13 15:40:39 i am sure there were awkward parts of it closed off Feb 13 15:40:46 Things like dialer, conversations and contacts on the n900 are closed. Feb 13 15:40:54 these are not hildon. Feb 13 15:41:51 i don't know ... i remember someone in here complaining about how they were trying to make open alternatives to a lot of hildon sections but found it impossible to do Feb 13 15:42:05 probably jonwil Feb 13 15:42:09 i honestly would have expected a new ui instead of sticking to hildon Feb 13 15:42:35 hildon is open. A lot of the backend stuff is not. Feb 13 15:42:48 well. .the backend stuff is rather important ;) Feb 13 15:42:55 yarp Feb 13 15:43:06 and that is what meego is for Feb 13 15:43:14 in theory Feb 13 15:43:20 except the UI should have been aborted. Feb 13 15:43:36 from what i'v eheard the ui is actually not too bad Feb 13 15:43:43 i dn't care about any of that as long as it has xterm :) Feb 13 15:43:56 exactly what I was just typing! Feb 13 15:44:13 but then again that is on the n9 Feb 13 15:44:29 My n900 has to giant shortcuts on the homescreen. Feb 13 15:44:30 the n900 is scrappy but it is still slower Feb 13 15:44:38 1. Giant button to call girlfriend. Feb 13 15:44:48 2. GIANT xterm button. Feb 13 15:44:52 lol Feb 13 15:44:53 all I need. Feb 13 15:45:00 same here except i used the contact shortcut Feb 13 15:45:06 vi__: Macer : it's reasonably fast to run the OS from a class 10 micro SD card Feb 13 15:45:10 and the normal xterm shortcut Feb 13 15:45:29 I made a QBW, just so it could be super massive. Feb 13 15:45:46 chouchoune: but the cpu might help speed it up as well as more physical ram in the n9 Feb 13 15:46:02 better soc gpu as well i would assume Feb 13 15:46:04 it has more horsepower Feb 13 15:46:12 Macer: what are you speaking about ? Feb 13 15:46:12 chouchoune: class 10, fool me once; Shame on you. Fool me twice; FFS, MY PRECIOUS DATA! Feb 13 15:46:22 it's not possible to run harmattan on the n900 Feb 13 15:46:35 chouchoune: i was talking about nemo/mer Feb 13 15:46:37 I'm speaking of the old Meego community edition and Nemo Mobile Feb 13 15:47:06 but the ui runs mostly the same doesn't it? Feb 13 15:47:07 Macer: Nemo/Mer doesn't run on N9 Feb 13 15:47:14 (officially at least) Feb 13 15:47:37 the UI is different from the Harmattan one Feb 13 15:47:49 oh. didn't nkkow that Feb 13 15:48:01 it's the MeeGo handset UI Feb 13 15:48:04 thought the ui was basicalyt he same with different bases for the underlying os Feb 13 15:48:26 chouchoune: it runs the 'default, example' UI. Feb 13 15:48:35 From meego. Feb 13 15:48:35 no, Nokia did something dfferent from official MeeGo handset UI for the N9 Feb 13 15:48:42 vi__: yes Feb 13 15:48:52 improved since the MeeGo times Feb 13 15:49:03 chouchoune: yes, they invented a new one. And did not even run it on meego. Feb 13 15:49:18 In fact n9 has absolutely nothing to do with meego. Feb 13 15:49:33 vi__: it's APi compatible Feb 13 15:49:45 chouchoune: BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. Feb 13 15:49:54 ORLY? Feb 13 15:50:12 yeah but can it run the portable brain scanning app? Feb 13 15:50:38 for an overview of nemo mobile : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShRnOazNu9Q Feb 13 15:50:42 That is like syaing 2 j2me phones are API compatable. Feb 13 15:52:16 MeeGo was a trademark, and Nokia could use it, so ... Feb 13 15:52:39 and the Nokia N9 is actually the result of Nokia's work on MeeGo Feb 13 15:55:38 after all, the only difference between MeeGo specification and Harmattan is the packaging system Feb 13 15:55:54 MeeGo compliance specs, I mean Feb 13 16:33:55 is there something like http://romaxa.info/fennec/ for maemo 5? Feb 13 16:39:22 hey all Feb 13 16:39:51 is there a program for watching bliptv videos on maemo? Feb 13 16:42:09 fennec runs a bit slow on n900 Feb 13 16:43:44 ShadowJK, it ran slow on N9 as well Feb 13 16:44:06 but 10.0 stable is actually drastically improved since I last tried Feb 13 16:44:16 uses significantly less cpu and no checkerboarding Feb 13 16:44:25 was wondeirng if maemo 5 could benefit as well Feb 13 16:45:59 I think on M5 biggest issue is the memory consumption Feb 13 16:48:28 thats true, on my N9 fennec still takes 25% RAM Feb 13 16:48:37 so 100% physical ram on an N900 Feb 13 18:03:23 DocScrutinizer: infobot joined! Feb 13 18:07:06 Hi I'm trying to use wlancond but I can't call it from Qt, I need pass an array Feb 13 18:07:10 uchar a[1] = {0}; Feb 13 18:07:28 but when I do msg << a; I get an error Feb 13 18:07:59 QVariant::QVariant(void *) is private, could someone help me to pass the array Feb 13 19:00:44 what's this rootsh update? Feb 13 19:03:46 ping X-Fade Feb 13 19:13:00 Phlogistique, more root than before maybe :> Feb 13 20:49:41 hi, where is Modified-hildon-desktop Feb 13 20:49:48 and desktopplus? Feb 13 20:50:10 package search says: modified-hildon-desktop 1.0 Fremantle Extras-devel free armel Package has been removed Niels Breet 2010-03-22 15: Feb 13 20:50:24 removed? wtf? Feb 13 20:51:15 I believe some things were absorbed into the cssu Feb 13 20:51:23 cssu? Feb 13 20:51:24 iirc it's on a different site. well, aiui, parts of it are in cssu Feb 13 20:51:30 yeah Feb 13 20:51:40 what is cssu? Feb 13 20:51:47 http://wiki.maemo.org/CSSU Feb 13 20:52:25 ah cool, seems a dangerous thing Feb 13 20:52:25 if u wan't just m-h-d alone, it's here, http://my.svgalib.org/~matan/770/n900/ Feb 13 20:52:48 lol, CSSU, especiallly CSSU Stable, is not dangerous at all Feb 13 20:53:12 Sicelo, sorry, it reads dangerous in my bad english Feb 13 20:55:29 ok, it says it not uninstallable, and it says i should click a link on that page.... but what will it do exactly? Feb 13 20:56:26 click link for stable.. it will start a number of scripts that install cssu.. Feb 13 20:56:39 u may want to /join #maemo-ssu Feb 13 20:57:01 hey DocScrutinizer Feb 13 20:57:13 i remember you saying that 3G idle eats as much battery as not being connected to 3G Feb 13 20:57:14 Sicelo, ok, ill give it a try :) thank you. Feb 13 20:57:16 got any articles on that? Feb 13 20:57:39 im still new to my n900, got it for 1 week now and continue fighting :)) Feb 13 21:14:18 i have this problem on n900 Feb 13 21:14:20 Skricciolo-Foratino:~# apt-get purge libwrt1 Feb 13 21:14:22 Reading package lists... Done Feb 13 21:14:26 Building dependency tree Feb 13 21:14:28 Reading state information... Done Feb 13 21:14:30 You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these: Feb 13 21:14:32 The following packages have unmet dependencies: Feb 13 21:14:34 libwrt-api-experimental1: Depends: libwrt-experimental1 (= 1.1tp-3) but it is not going to be installed Feb 13 21:14:36 libwrt-api1: Depends: libwrt1 (= 1.1.0) but it is not going to be installed Feb 13 21:14:38 wrt: Depends: libwrt1 (= 1.1.0) but it is not going to be installed Feb 13 21:14:40 E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). Feb 13 21:14:42 Skricciolo-Foratino:~# apt-get purge qtwrt-experimental Feb 13 21:14:44 Reading package lists... Done Feb 13 21:14:46 Building dependency tree Feb 13 21:14:48 Reading state information... Done Feb 13 21:14:50 Package qtwrt-experimental is not installed, so not removed Feb 13 21:14:52 You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these: Feb 13 21:14:56 The following packages have unmet dependencies: Feb 13 21:14:58 libwrt-api-experimental1: Depends: libwrt-experimental1 (= 1.1tp-3) but it is not going to be installed Feb 13 21:15:00 E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). Feb 13 21:15:02 Skricciolo-Foratino:~# apt-get install qtwrt-experimental Feb 13 21:15:04 Reading package lists... Done Feb 13 21:15:06 Building dependency tree Feb 13 21:15:08 Reading state information... Done Feb 13 21:15:08 fabio_: stop it! Feb 13 21:15:10 You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these: Feb 13 21:15:12 The following packages have unmet dependencies: Feb 13 21:15:14 libwrt-api-experimental1: Depends: libwrt-experimental1 (= 1.1tp-3) but it is not going to be installed Feb 13 21:15:16 qtwrt-experimental: Depends: wrt-experimental (= 1.1tp-3) but it is not going to be installed Feb 13 21:15:16 fabio_: stop it! Feb 13 21:15:18 Depends: wrt-api-experimental (= 1.1tp-3) but it is not going to be installed Feb 13 21:15:20 E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). Feb 13 21:15:22 Skricciolo-Foratino:~# apt-get -f install Feb 13 21:15:23 damn1 Feb 13 21:15:26 Reading package lists... Done Feb 13 21:15:28 Building dependency tree Feb 13 21:15:30 Reading state information... Done Feb 13 21:15:32 Correcting dependencies... Done Feb 13 21:15:34 The following extra packages will be installed: Feb 13 21:15:36 libwrt-experimental1 Feb 13 21:15:38 The following NEW packages will be instal Feb 13 21:15:40 help me please Feb 13 21:16:09 u should use a pastebin Feb 13 21:16:10 ~ping Feb 13 21:16:10 ~pong Feb 13 21:16:50 as for your problem, we don't even know what you are doing or want to do. what happens when u 'apt-get -f install'? Feb 13 21:17:41 ok Sicelo sorry Feb 13 21:24:30 Sicelo, Skricciolo-Foratino:~# apt-get -f install Feb 13 21:24:30 Reading package lists... Done Feb 13 21:24:31 Building dependency tree Feb 13 21:24:31 Reading state information... Done Feb 13 21:24:31 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded. Feb 13 21:24:50 "apt-get -f install " Feb 13 21:25:30 and btw, http://pastebin.com/ Feb 13 21:25:40 ok Feb 13 21:25:54 i try Feb 13 21:26:33 what are you trying to do anyways? Feb 13 21:30:14 fabio_, i'm about to leave, some hints: try to google for "debian apt-get manual" or documentation or similar. this will tell you how to use apt-get. if you fail to install packages from sources you might want to google for the package name and try to install it "by hand". try to find .deb files and install them. but this is pretty experimental, so make sure you have backups :p Feb 13 21:31:56 afk Feb 13 21:52:12 can someone supply me with one of the TI libflashplayer binaries? I need to test something Feb 13 22:12:01 So my n900 just took a two foot fall to the floor and now it doesn't display anything on the screen when I try to turn it on. It just has a faint black glow then it powers up. Any ideas what I broke? Feb 13 22:16:10 Macer: booted debian fine with nemo's kernel, modules, and firmware Feb 13 22:37:55 hmm, i dont see fcam drivers in the repository, i added devel-extras but there is only fcamera, depends on fcam drivers, but.. which version? i need something like 0.1.7-2 not -1 Feb 13 22:38:18 will fcamera install the correct version? or is this aother thingy that went to csu? Feb 13 22:38:22 Sicelo: nice Feb 13 22:38:44 Sicelo: but booting is easy.. it's having functional hardware that is difficult ;) Feb 13 22:41:01 ah, ok, it tells me the correct version when i click install, weird... why is it not mentioned in dependencies.... Feb 13 22:41:11 maemo drives me crazy :) Feb 13 22:42:46 well, it's a tablet now Macer. touchscreen, sound, etc, works. right now i've been playing with ofono.. looks like there's promise there as well. i have Debian Wheezy on it, with Xfce Feb 13 22:42:51 Macer: ^^ Feb 13 22:43:40 heh Feb 13 22:43:49 i want to see the nemo ux Feb 13 22:43:54 franky, i don't need camera, gps, etc for my purposes. if i can get gprs/3g working, i'll have achieved my goal :) Feb 13 22:43:59 "ux" heh Feb 13 22:44:07 nor do i care about phone calls Feb 13 22:44:08 oh Feb 13 22:44:17 well i do ;-) Feb 13 22:44:49 not only that but any os on a device should hace full functionality of the hardware Feb 13 22:45:26 that is what always drove me nuts with any os alternative on nokia's "open" devices Feb 13 22:45:45 you found they were not open Feb 13 22:45:48 heh Feb 13 22:47:19 i kind of like this cheap charger i bought Feb 13 22:47:37 it's a bl-5j charger with a usb port heh Feb 13 22:47:55 so i have a battery charging now and my n900 :) Feb 13 22:48:15 although i HATE using the usb port to charge.. i avoid it at all costs but i have 3 batteries and they are all dead Feb 13 22:49:05 Macer: buy more, even if they're not original. at least they're cheap, although not good for the environment Feb 13 22:49:25 the 3 are fine.. i just was too lazy to charge them Feb 13 22:49:40 heeh Feb 13 22:49:43 but i use the charger because of my last n900 Feb 13 22:49:46 RIP Feb 13 22:49:48 I misread «dead» Feb 13 22:50:02 with its usb port that ripped off Feb 13 22:50:06 the n900 or just the usb port? Feb 13 22:50:12 oh, ugh Feb 13 22:50:13 and all the kings and all the kings men couldn't put it back together again Feb 13 22:50:29 so i got a new one off ebay for $250 Feb 13 22:50:33 which really was an awesome deal Feb 13 22:50:41 considering how much they cost Feb 13 22:50:44 $450+ Feb 13 22:51:02 how much did they originally sell them for? i forget.. $500 or so? Feb 13 22:51:06 well, yeah, I bought mine for EUR 180 Feb 13 22:51:18 yeah, 500 $MONEYUNITS Feb 13 22:51:37 UD in usa, EUR in europe, GBP in uk Feb 13 22:51:41 USD* Feb 13 22:52:01 and now they are even more than that Feb 13 22:52:09 to find one for $400 new you're lucky Feb 13 22:52:21 210 EUR in one store near me Feb 13 22:52:23 amazon has some fools selling them for $800 wtf is up with that? Feb 13 22:52:24 really? I barely could find any Feb 13 22:52:41 dhbiker: :-P they're probably refurbished Feb 13 22:52:45 heh Feb 13 22:52:46 or used Feb 13 22:52:48 nah Feb 13 22:52:49 new Feb 13 22:52:52 brand new Feb 13 22:52:53 LIES! Feb 13 22:53:02 ill take a picture next time Feb 13 22:53:12 where are you? HK? :-P Feb 13 22:53:16 last one in this store Feb 13 22:53:18 HK N900s don't count Feb 13 22:53:21 Slovenia Feb 13 22:53:27 Macer: why? Feb 13 22:53:40 heh... because it's HK .. there has to be something wrong with it :) Feb 13 22:53:54 Macer: shhhhh, mine's from there Feb 13 22:54:07 lol Feb 13 22:54:11 lmao Feb 13 22:54:18 so is mine ;) Feb 13 22:54:20 i just got lucky Feb 13 22:54:32 my n900 is a finland edition Feb 13 22:54:35 mine says korea :P Feb 13 22:54:35 i feel special Feb 13 22:54:56 dhbiker: soon all nokias will say china ;) Feb 13 22:55:07 i dont care about the other nokias Feb 13 22:55:10 just the n900 Feb 13 22:55:11 :P Feb 13 22:55:13 fair enough Feb 13 22:55:24 but mine is finland Feb 13 22:55:27 thought that was awesome Feb 13 22:55:31 having a non-asian made phone Feb 13 22:55:48 heh Feb 13 22:55:53 mine says «made in finland» too Feb 13 22:56:02 on the other sticker says you got fooled Feb 13 22:56:03 :P Feb 13 22:56:16 doubt it Feb 13 22:56:25 dhbiker: most probably, but in the end, the phone is what I spected Feb 13 22:56:37 so, who cares Feb 13 22:56:41 yup Feb 13 22:56:49 heh Feb 13 22:56:50 i actually thought i was going to get a fake one lol Feb 13 22:56:59 (that will be my position until the mofo breaks :) Feb 13 22:57:00 when it got here it was the real deal Feb 13 22:57:00 yeah the N900 is pretty awesome phone Feb 13 22:57:02 WOW Feb 13 22:57:18 and for $250? Feb 13 22:57:26 i felt like i won the lottery heh Feb 13 22:57:30 haha Feb 13 22:57:31 i was about to drop $450 for a ne one Feb 13 22:57:43 i ebayed like 12 of them and kept losing Feb 13 22:57:44 i got mine for 160 EUR Feb 13 22:57:47 3 months used Feb 13 22:57:53 still in warranty till 2013 Feb 13 22:57:54 :> Feb 13 22:58:22