**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Mar 20 02:59:59 2012 Mar 20 07:07:22 lol Mar 20 07:17:28 Sicelo: moo Mar 20 07:18:20 quite worth a read: http://motherboard.vice.com/2012/3/19/ifixit-s-kyle-wiens-on-how-to-dismantle-the-war-on-diy-electronics -- especially for Nokia, though I guess it's already too late for them Mar 20 07:20:31 * DocScrutinizer still wonders whom to contact about legal obligations of manufacturers to offer proper service and spare parts for expensive electronic devices, for a time span that's reasonably longer than even just the warranty period Mar 20 07:21:34 various consumer protection agencies and stuff Mar 20 07:21:42 to get such legislation rolling Mar 20 07:31:24 I think there already is sufficient legislation Mar 20 07:31:34 just needs someone to enforce it Mar 20 07:38:38 Nokia might quite likely want to source components and produce another 2000 N900 for 2Mio, when the alternative whatever it is costs them way more Mar 20 07:40:05 to make the alternative expensive for them, it needs action from their customers Mar 20 07:41:05 first and foremost: insist on a original replacement/repair instead of a crappy e7/whatever swap offer, whenever your device breaks during warranty Mar 20 07:42:28 id gladly take a 950 as a swap Mar 20 07:42:35 * DocScrutinizer waves and heads out for dong the slave ;-D Mar 20 07:43:01 Crooks_mobile: me not, but well that's a matter of personal preferences Mar 20 07:43:27 i can buy anothe 900 but i cant buy a 950 Mar 20 07:43:34 N950 has a crappy kbd and a unbearable capacitive touchscreen Mar 20 09:19:24 hmm anyone gotten the n900 keyboard to work with virtualbox over ssh? Mar 20 09:25:46 Nonsequitur: https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/group/chromium-dev/browse_thread/thread/d30ae1c692ff53c3?pli=1 Mar 20 09:38:07 Raimu lol **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Mar 20 12:29:04 2012 Mar 20 13:44:33 does anyone know on the n900 how the mobilehotspot/qtmobilehotspot setup the wlan so that it broadcasts its essid during ad-hoc mode? Mar 20 18:43:22 maybe it's late news, but http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=linux-and-android-together-at-last-2012-03 Mar 20 18:43:33 Hi, how i can check if my libflashplayer is using hw o sw render ? Mar 20 18:45:29 hi. i just updated cssu testing. neither does this or previous version let me connect to internet at all. connectnow-widgets doesn't do anything and when i try from status-menu it doesn't even open the "select connection" menu Mar 20 18:45:50 rlinfati: iirc it uses hw Mar 20 18:46:11 Sicelo, i'm not using the stock version.... Mar 20 18:46:14 shanttu: i doubt it's really caused by cssu Mar 20 18:46:30 but you can also ask at #maemo-ssu Mar 20 18:46:46 Sicelo, immediately after i restore a backup it works Mar 20 18:47:06 backup which was made a minute before Mar 20 18:47:17 i'll ask there, thanks Mar 20 18:55:52 what's up with irreco? database doesn't work Mar 20 19:11:53 Timmy__: i use Pierogi instead of irreco Mar 20 19:18:57 dhbiker: this app doesn't support our TV, how can i solve this problem? Mar 20 19:19:14 you can try to select the keyset Mar 20 19:19:43 the tv is not defined in the keysets Mar 20 19:19:54 well the brand is Mar 20 19:19:56 till now Mar 20 19:20:00 it worked for me Mar 20 19:20:02 everytime Mar 20 19:21:00 it's a LG 42pq10r. i want to know how can i make one by myself Mar 20 19:21:17 hmmz Mar 20 19:21:22 i dont know the dev Mar 20 19:21:26 so no clue :/ Mar 20 21:29:35 evenin Mar 20 21:30:12 does anybody know if BM and Uboot clash? Mar 20 21:31:26 want to try nemo and ubuntu 12.04 as just got my sd card, but as usual in new toy can't be arsed to read up 400 posts Mar 20 21:31:41 want it now :( Mar 20 21:32:10 should I uninstall backupmenu before installing pali's uboot? Mar 20 21:41:11 oops, kernel power conflicts for starters... Mar 20 21:57:45 hmm, anyway to get rid of kp50? Mar 20 21:57:59 nokia kernel icon didn't do the trick Mar 20 21:58:10 HAM still complains about kernel-power Mar 20 21:58:15 2 reboots done Mar 20 22:05:07 wow sudo apt-get -purge kernel-power* went better than expected... Mar 20 22:05:37 O.o Mar 20 22:05:57 yeah, fingers crossed for reboot :) Mar 20 22:06:10 you're brave, lol. why didnmt you use the provided 'app'? Mar 20 22:06:32 s/nmt/n't/ Mar 20 22:06:32 sicelo_ meant: you're brave, lol. why didn't you use the provided 'app'? Mar 20 22:06:47 like I said 'Nokia kernel' app didn't remove it fully (prolly as installed using dpkg before it was on devel) Mar 20 22:07:11 as uboot conflicted had to do something Mar 20 22:07:22 ah.. i wasnmt joined on chan when u said that :) Mar 20 22:07:24 didn't get many proposals, lets boot and see Mar 20 22:07:38 penguin is there Mar 20 22:07:51 :) Mar 20 22:08:01 boots fine so far... Mar 20 22:08:05 hands connected Mar 20 22:08:06 using Pali's uboot? Mar 20 22:08:10 love nokia! Mar 20 22:08:13 yup Mar 20 22:08:23 seems to not conflict with backupmenu Mar 20 22:08:31 boot succesfull Mar 20 22:08:40 ssful* Mar 20 22:09:01 now for nemo Mar 20 22:10:04 unless opening kbd screws uboot Mar 20 22:10:15 :/ gonna go with the flow Mar 20 22:10:31 it shouldn't, aiui Mar 20 22:11:14 * sicelo_ loads kernel using flasher for now -- will go on to u-boot soon :) Mar 20 22:11:47 guys with ubuntu 12.04 seem to have best results with it Mar 20 22:12:07 with what? flasher? Mar 20 22:12:14 was planning multi for nit, but those are more interesting for me Mar 20 22:12:20 at least for now Mar 20 22:12:37 getting 12.04 kernel working with fremantle is the goal Mar 20 22:12:49 ah :) Mar 20 22:12:55 or meego, or any other that would allow updating of glib/libc Mar 20 22:13:11 droid apps can wait I guess Mar 20 22:13:17 nemo has 2.6.37 kernel Mar 20 22:13:28 Linux fremantle 2.6.37-10.1.Nemo.Adaptation.N900-adaptation-n900 #1 PREEMPT Mon Jan 23 11:48:19 UTC 2012 armv7l GNU/Linux Mar 20 22:13:34 until angrybirds space come out Mar 20 22:13:35 :P Mar 20 22:13:42 nit will be a must then Mar 20 22:13:54 shit this game is addictive as hell Mar 20 22:14:23 yeah, meego got .35 Mar 20 22:14:23 guess i'' not made for it - deleted it a week ago Mar 20 22:15:17 with .37 we should be back if this doesn't introduce backwards incompatibility with crit components Mar 20 22:15:30 so, is nemo booting fine? Mar 20 22:15:39 if it does, ofono is our only hope Mar 20 22:15:50 gonna try it right now Mar 20 22:15:57 will report back Mar 20 22:16:17 got a decent random rw card, hope it is usable speed Mar 20 22:16:20 right now i'm running debian on this n900, with nemo's kernel and modules Mar 20 22:16:32 gprs works with ofono ;) Mar 20 22:16:44 i'm thusly connected atm Mar 20 22:16:49 heard calls also 'might' Mar 20 22:17:03 sicelo_: does it do phone calls? Mar 20 22:17:07 but unconfirmed on ubuntu/n900 site Mar 20 22:17:25 needs retesting, hope I can manage this and confirm/deny Mar 20 22:17:43 nit is a dark alley it would seem in that regard Mar 20 22:17:47 i didn't test well enough so far.. i'm more an internet person Mar 20 22:17:59 maybe with 3.3(4) it would start working??? Mar 20 22:18:12 nop.. not so far Mar 20 22:18:19 they finally upstreamed it seems Mar 20 22:18:26 ssi interface still not implemented Mar 20 22:18:35 :/ Mar 20 22:18:48 http://elinux.org/N900/ Mar 20 22:20:03 http://elinux.org/N900 Mar 20 22:21:26 Linus is busy with Android these days, lol Mar 20 22:23:22 i'm going to give Nemo a try one of these days :/ Mar 20 22:23:35 calls do work with the nemo kernel, (obviously). I also played around on debian with ofono with it, and got calls working, but audio routing didn't work As calls cost me money, I simply have no motivation to play around too much with them so... Mar 20 22:23:54 call support? Mar 20 22:23:59 should be free Mar 20 22:24:08 if they hear you = works! Mar 20 22:24:21 complain about audio quality if they do :P Mar 20 22:24:28 eh, what? Mar 20 22:24:32 ask them to confirm Mar 20 22:24:41 full test performed for 0$ Mar 20 22:26:23 anyway, night. Mar 20 22:48:57 dd finished (on mass storage) with cover closed and sd in place still booted fremantle Mar 20 22:49:06 any clues? Mar 20 22:52:20 don't tell me 11.04 can't read this card??? Mar 20 22:52:55 it looks like it, standard card inserted insta choose action dialog, this with adapter no response Mar 20 22:53:00 oh ffs Mar 20 22:53:26 so it's this or scratchbox lol Mar 20 22:54:29 ok, no rw BM mode with uboot Mar 20 22:55:01 maybe from another device... Mar 20 22:55:11 cya later Mar 20 23:03:22 would having /dev/sdc and /dev/sdc1 indicate having 2 partitions? this would explain fremantle boot Mar 20 23:04:01 going now through dd with backupmenu rw mode Mar 20 23:04:16 but it might be useless if that is the case Mar 20 23:08:53 wow, samsung got partitioning 4mb/rest from start Mar 20 23:10:50 wait, does nemo/ubuntu etc boot from fat or ext? Mar 20 23:49:12 fuck it boots Mar 20 23:49:43 wow nemo runs quite smoothly Mar 20 23:49:51 need to try with sim Mar 20 23:49:55 next step ubuntu# Mar 21 00:01:14 yay? Mar 21 00:01:23 yay! Mar 21 00:01:31 it works Mar 21 00:06:41 ok coming back to irc doesn seem to work Mar 21 00:06:46 maybe cause of /msg Mar 21 00:06:58 but youtube did play sound oO Mar 21 00:08:48 wonder if n9 flash could work with nemo Mar 21 00:35:58 szopim, you arent hit buy -110? Mar 21 00:36:35 s/buy/by/ Mar 21 00:36:36 Hurrian meant: szopim, you arent hit by -110? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Mar 21 02:59:58 2012