**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Mar 21 02:59:58 2012 Mar 21 07:05:41 hi Mar 21 07:06:16 this bug still appear, i use latest version of CSSU. any solution ? Mar 21 07:06:24 https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8958 Mar 21 07:06:25 04Bug 8958: portrait layout for receiving call shown in landscape mode (-> no Reject button) Mar 21 07:08:49 Hurrian: what do you do on Welcome to ubuntu 11.10 slideshow? Mar 21 07:09:29 no x button, left and right navigation buttons loop the screens Mar 21 07:10:52 juozapas, landscape locked? Mar 21 07:11:30 yeap Mar 21 07:11:51 well, unlock it then Mar 21 07:12:16 :D Mar 21 07:12:34 but if i want to use it in landscape mode all the time ? Mar 21 07:12:45 oh shit oh shit oh shit... clicking on ask ubuntu link opened firefox... yay Mar 21 07:13:01 juozapas, disable forced rotation Mar 21 07:13:35 where i can t Mar 21 07:13:38 do it ? Mar 21 07:13:39 s/disable/not enable Mar 21 07:15:22 sorry, still cant find it Mar 21 07:15:26 juozapas, if forced rotation is not enabled, applications behave as in PR1.3. Only hildon-desktop,tasknav and application launcer rotate. But there is a gconf key to stop them to rotate Mar 21 07:16:13 ok thx Mar 21 07:19:03 freemangordon: the errata for thumb2 you mentioned, is there any reason it is not included in latest ubuntu for arm builds? Mar 21 07:20:12 szopeen, AFAIK kernel 3.2 which comes with the distribution has this errata enabled, don't as me why 2.6.35 kernel hast the errata disabled, better ask int_ua :) Mar 21 07:20:21 *ask Mar 21 07:20:31 it will be nice to have contacts in portrait mode ... Mar 21 07:20:31 using .37 still random segfaults Mar 21 07:20:51 this kernel has the errata, seems other parts not Mar 21 07:21:13 szopeen, the errata is only in kernel, what are those other parts? Mar 21 07:21:23 *errata fix Mar 21 07:21:42 hmm, then not that Mar 21 07:21:53 well , it could be that Mar 21 07:22:48 as the workaround to take place, there should be access to some bits in coprocessor registers outside of the secure mode Mar 21 07:22:52 playing with ubuntu 12.04 installer, sometimes boots, sometimes not, error messages between boots differ so was assuming this erratic behaviour could be because of it Mar 21 07:23:27 and I am still not convinced n900 bootloader does not disable this access Mar 21 07:24:05 but if you get hit by this errata, it is not segfault, but sigil that is the result Mar 21 07:24:38 szopeen, could be Mar 21 07:24:41 got segfault when closing once, then fsck panicked Mar 21 07:24:57 ubi-language crashed now, once ubi-console Mar 21 07:25:26 try again went through then, now it didn't. very erratic behaviour Mar 21 07:25:27 seeing sigill anywhere? Mar 21 07:25:42 those crashes are in desktop Mar 21 07:25:52 not sure how to alt-f1 :) Mar 21 07:26:19 yeah :) Mar 21 07:26:32 but there are some logs afaik Mar 21 07:26:46 could you ssh into the device Mar 21 07:27:24 once I get through language, timezone etc... ended up on welcome to 11.10(?) screen with no way to proceed Mar 21 07:27:35 just looping screens about ubuntu one etc Mar 21 07:27:59 doubt sshd is setup at this stage Mar 21 07:28:31 <_freemangordon> wtf? Mar 21 07:28:35 once I get through language, timezone etc... ended up on welcome to 11.10(?) screen with no way to proceed Mar 21 07:28:37 just looping screens about ubuntu one etc Mar 21 07:28:39 doubt sshd is setup at this stage Mar 21 07:29:11 might need to battery-kill it and get logs from maemo bootup Mar 21 07:29:15 <_freemangordon> szopeen, are you sure 11.10 is thumb-compiled? Mar 21 07:30:00 int_ua made a thread about 12.04, welcome intro mentions 11.10... no idea which is it right now Mar 21 07:31:25 <_freemangordon> I've tried ubuntu from int_ua's thread, NFC which version it is, but it crashes every now and then. But the kernel used to boot is 2.6.35, with thumb errata workaround disabled Mar 21 07:31:49 you can choose .37 now Mar 21 07:32:23 <_freemangordon> and you chick in .confi that thumb errata workaround is enabled? Mar 21 07:32:29 <_freemangordon> *.config Mar 21 07:32:38 and getting to the intro 3 times out of then, not sure how to get past it, but wifi networks are listed correctly that's one good news Mar 21 07:32:45 not yet Mar 21 07:32:54 don't have any way to run xterm Mar 21 07:33:21 ten* Mar 21 07:33:27 <_freemangordon> well, you should do it on your PC, looking at the kernel sources :) Mar 21 07:33:44 <_freemangordon> I don't think there is a way to check that on the device Mar 21 07:33:53 <_freemangordon> or there is? Mar 21 07:33:56 need to disable numbers/special chars from my wifi to see if it connects :( Mar 21 07:34:32 no idea... mounting the sd from maemo would show? Mar 21 07:35:38 yes I want my music with me, want to stay connected... go away!!! Mar 21 07:36:11 <_freemangordon> hmm, I don't think .config used to build the kernel is stored anywhere. could be wrong of course Mar 21 07:36:40 oh... Mar 21 07:36:51 boot/config-2.6.37-adaptation-n900 Mar 21 07:37:05 <_freemangordon> Hurrian, thanks Mar 21 07:37:14 yay, went through, patience helps Mar 21 07:37:23 applying changes Mar 21 07:38:34 <_freemangordon> szopeen, could you check the file Hurrian pointed to if it has CONFIG_ARM_ERRATA_430973=y Mar 21 07:39:36 once it finishes... triggers man-db atm Mar 21 07:40:07 freemangordon, meego kernel is not compiled with thumb errata fix on Mar 21 07:40:24 using nemo I believe Mar 21 07:41:15 <_freemangordon> Well, then someone should recompile it with errata fix on (if ubuntu is thumb compiled) Mar 21 07:41:31 fuck yeah heard ubuntu bootup music... halted in the middle but yay asks for password Mar 21 07:42:06 11.10... int_ua got some explaining to do... still unity runs oO Mar 21 07:42:07 brb, gonna eat a tub of ice cream then work this kernel out Mar 21 07:42:14 :D Mar 21 07:42:16 <_freemangordon> :) Mar 21 07:45:30 holy shit, it runs... somewhat... top and left menu flashed for a moment, now glorious desktop background.... dammit gotta run to work Mar 21 07:46:07 worst part is never know if it crashed or still working on something Mar 21 07:47:21 mmkay, halfway through the tub. anyways, ubuntu with unity is kinda slow on the phone, we're clearly bottoming out on the ram Mar 21 07:47:42 how do you disable it? Mar 21 07:47:52 change your session to ubuntu classis Mar 21 07:47:55 *classic Mar 21 07:48:06 but Mar 21 07:48:09 oh, on the login page, right... Mar 21 07:48:29 if we can recompile unity-2d to use gles, that would be great Mar 21 07:48:33 will give it a few minutes just in case it is finishing postinst Mar 21 07:48:43 i do not know how linaro does it Mar 21 07:49:03 szopeen: you may want to check out linarobuntu Mar 21 07:49:04 gnome/kde have gles support by any chance? Mar 21 07:49:21 gnome 3's mutter has gles support but needs rebuilding Mar 21 07:50:51 linarobuntu - noted Mar 21 07:51:43 ok, this unity boot is going nowhere, reboot time Mar 21 07:52:15 at least shuts nicely Mar 21 07:53:16 it takes time to boot Mar 21 07:53:18 a lot of time Mar 21 07:53:19 or not... kernel panic :) Mar 21 07:56:57 would choosing dist upgrade get 12.04? Mar 21 07:57:24 yes Mar 21 07:58:07 next on the list then Mar 21 08:01:04 setup sshd and usb networking/wifi... will simplify things. Mar 21 08:02:48 hmmm... no way to charge phone in off state with uboot? Mar 21 08:03:17 at least not with sd inside Mar 21 08:03:23 starts booting Mar 21 08:04:39 <_freemangordon> TMO is down :). again ;) Mar 21 08:27:01 whoa... now unity booted in around 1.5min Mar 21 08:27:23 all seems to work, though the main button that should list apps kind of not Mar 21 08:27:44 no icons displayed, settings opened fine, not even lagging that much Mar 21 08:28:29 update manager wants to install 259 packages lol Mar 21 08:35:07 in ubuntu 2d seems bit faster (not sure) lock button doesn't work, got xterm finally... keymap is screwed Mar 21 08:36:50 it is .35 after all Mar 21 08:37:36 filename completion doesn't work even though ctrl-i skips few spaces like tab Mar 21 08:37:51 mc! what was the errata number? Mar 21 08:38:37 "ARM stale interworking branch prediction" Mar 21 08:38:52 430973 Mar 21 08:40:23 heh, no way to search for numbers Mar 21 08:40:31 arm appears four times though Mar 21 08:40:42 nowhere near anything like it Mar 21 08:41:34 the are two config files though... .35 from 3 march and 3.0 from oct both 2011 Mar 21 08:41:51 how can I check which is used? Mar 21 08:48:17 ok, how to check without need for -a? Mar 21 08:48:33 a can be, the - is problematic Mar 21 08:56:05 i installed a vkb for stuff not on hwkbd by default... Mar 21 08:56:31 u could copy maemo's kbd config Mar 21 09:00:29 onboard kina works: unaaaaammmmeeeeeee -------aaaaaaaaaa Mar 21 09:01:19 got it, .35 Mar 21 09:02:13 surprisingly stable so far Mar 21 09:03:53 seems like once it boots it's fine, though 1 in 4 chance of that Mar 21 09:08:16 transmission 2.33 starts quickly, one solution to magnet links :) Mar 21 09:15:13 but no way to get rid of unity, only choices ubuntu and ubuntu2d :( Mar 21 09:24:50 talk down? Mar 21 09:25:11 looks like Mar 21 09:27:26 yeah, it's tits up, again Mar 21 09:33:24 MohammadAG and CSSU team: thanks for this new update and your hard work to keep this platform alive Mar 21 09:33:45 yeap thx Mar 21 09:34:05 where i can find changelog btw ? Mar 21 09:35:31 on wmo? Mar 21 09:35:32 TMO down again -.- Mar 21 09:36:27 the amount of times it's down is starting to become worrying Mar 21 09:37:37 the more people requesting for a backup data of these sites the better. Someday it'll probably disappear for sure Mar 21 09:39:23 juozapas: for now you can check the changelog on gitorious http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/mp-fremantle-community-pr/blobs/master/debian/changelog Mar 21 09:39:35 proper changelog on the wiki should be there by the end of the week Mar 21 09:39:46 k thx Mar 21 09:39:52 May I ask why zoom is removed from HD? Mar 21 09:40:04 b0rked and useless in the current state Mar 21 09:40:25 I used to find it handy sometimes... Mar 21 09:40:51 but I didn't use it frequently Mar 21 09:41:12 in most cases you loose the ability to input, and there were bugs where h-d messed up completeley Mar 21 09:41:22 s/completeley/completely Mar 21 09:42:04 Ah I see, I don't care much about it =) Thumbs up for the CSSU in general ^^ Mar 21 09:44:44 Now TMO is down; How can I display SSID, wlan0 IP, and External IP through qbw? Mar 21 09:45:03 Especially SSID is giving me troubles Mar 21 09:45:45 some ark/grep/whatever over iwconfig? Mar 21 09:46:23 peetah: You're welcome :) Mar 21 09:48:13 I'm not a hero with awk, actually I can only melt scripts :P Mar 21 09:48:35 iwconfig wlan0 | grep ESSID: Mar 21 09:48:46 away Mar 21 09:48:47 ops Mar 21 09:48:48 seems to do it, but it displays the whole line Mar 21 09:49:06 you can use awk to narrow it down Mar 21 09:49:17 What's the whole line Mar 21 09:50:02 wlan0 IEEE 802.11bg ESSID: "My SSID" Mar 21 09:50:22 iwconfig wlan0 |grep ESSID |awk 'BEGIN {FS="\'"} {print $2} | sed s/' Mar 21 09:50:49 or awk -F \' Mar 21 09:52:44 what do you mean with that last? Mar 21 09:53:39 ignore that |sed :) Mar 21 09:53:51 -F flag sets FS Mar 21 09:54:33 Well seems I have to read a bit more about awk, I really have half a clue what you are talking about Mar 21 09:54:54 iwconfig wlan0| grep ESSID| awk '{ print $5 $6 }' Mar 21 09:58:44 Hmmm you need $4 also ;) Mar 21 09:59:18 but then you got the ESSID: "My SSID" Mar 21 09:59:40 while with $5 $6 You only get: SSID" Mar 21 10:07:50 Anyway thanks for your help, I have to go now Mar 21 10:25:30 anyone know a commandline way to reset the data usage counter on n900? Mar 21 11:01:21 do any changelog exist for 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo2.1 (CSSU)? Mar 21 11:02:10 oh, nvm, think i found it Mar 21 11:48:53 ecksun: where is it Mar 21 11:48:55 ? Mar 21 11:49:42 Macer: 11:40 < merlin1991> juozapas: for now you can check the changelog on gitorious http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/mp-fremantle-community-pr/blobs/master/debian/changelog Mar 21 11:49:51 tnx Mar 21 11:52:25 what does the +m5 bit usually mean for packages? Mar 21 11:52:33 that it's specifically compiled for fremantle? Mar 21 11:52:53 because that logic seems to go out the window for harmattan Mar 21 11:52:59 +maemo5 Mar 21 11:53:13 who have now taken to labeling their packages, -maemo1+m6 then -maemo1+m7 Mar 21 11:54:48 some random examples of harmattan packages: 2:1.9.5-meego1471+0m7 1.2.50.1+0m7, 1.0.13+0m8 Mar 21 11:55:10 1:5.6.51-0maemo2+0m6 Mar 21 11:55:13 0m6? wtf Mar 21 11:55:25 the people who did maemo were probably gone, and the ones left had no clue what it was for Mar 21 11:55:32 then randomly: 2:5.1p1-2+harmattan31+0m7 Mar 21 11:56:11 They were there for a reason Mar 21 11:56:33 yeah they were to show what maemo version the package was built for Mar 21 11:56:34 BFIH queue processing, or something Mar 21 11:56:45 yep Mar 21 11:56:56 now it looks like its all out the window Mar 21 11:56:59 and then you have legacy "maemo 6" packages Mar 21 11:57:17 and then it wasn't maemo anymore so any bump ended in +m7 ... Mar 21 11:57:18 unless theyre randomly incrementing maemo releases and we're now on maemo 8 Mar 21 11:57:47 They probably mean nothing now Mar 21 11:57:49 or they're treating it like how ubuntu does updates, bumping the last, smallest number for small bugfixes Mar 21 11:58:14 except a lot of these came from PR1.2 Mar 21 11:58:20 That's how we do it in the cssu Mar 21 11:58:35 +0cssu1 Mar 21 11:59:09 +0cssu1 is considered higher than +m6? Mar 21 11:59:18 or +m5 Mar 21 11:59:36 We add a .1 before that Mar 21 11:59:42 Or -1 Mar 21 12:00:07 so you increase the debian patch and replace m5 with 0cssu1 Mar 21 12:00:13 Yeah Mar 21 12:00:25 i dont know if thats the way ubuntu does it Mar 21 12:00:30 they usually leave the debian revision alone Mar 21 12:00:46 at least if a package comes *from* debian Mar 21 12:01:03 There's no cssu concept in Debian Mar 21 12:01:07 There's ppa Mar 21 12:02:32 it just makes it a little difficult when porting packages to maemo to follow a concise vesioning scheme Mar 21 12:04:03 like, I labeled a package 1.0.1-1maemo1 because I took the debian version and made a maemo-specific patch Mar 21 12:04:06 which I think is right Mar 21 12:04:42 and my addition to the harmattan extras repository was declined because of that versioning Mar 21 12:04:45 "Harmattan is maemo6, and not maemo1. Packages use m6 from the Nokia repositories as far as I can tell." Mar 21 12:05:14 i'm ranting here because #harmattan is annoying sometimes Mar 21 12:05:47 if anything it should be 1.0.1-1maemo1+m6, but even then, the package will work fine on fremantle, and probably even diablo Mar 21 12:05:58 since its a regular terminal package with no gui Mar 21 12:26:33 hmm, looks like i have a bad CA-101 now Mar 21 13:17:16 Hey guys Mar 21 13:17:53 is there any safe way to find out, which firmware is default for my N900 device? Mar 21 13:18:02 according to the IMEI, I can see it's UK device Mar 21 13:18:25 but, can I be sure that UK firmware PR1.3 is the proper one and not for example global image? Mar 21 13:19:06 and, what is the actual difference between UK image and global image? I suppose both contain all languages right? Mar 21 13:21:53 most of us flash global anyway... Mar 21 13:22:29 I see Mar 21 13:22:53 +, do I actually lose warranty with reflashing? Mar 21 13:23:03 since I reflashed before, so now it doesn't matter Mar 21 13:23:10 lol Mar 21 13:23:15 no, you don't Mar 21 13:23:19 i wanna sell my n800+n900 nit's ; i prefer give it to a floss hacker http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1182344 Mar 21 13:23:25 ok Mar 21 13:23:32 cuz my GPS is broken, seems hw issue Mar 21 13:23:38 but I want to reflash first to be sure Mar 21 13:23:50 what do u mean by 'broken'? Mar 21 13:24:08 from day to day, it won't find a location Mar 21 13:24:27 searching and nothing is found Mar 21 13:24:34 I mean Mar 21 13:24:40 everything worked flawlessly Mar 21 13:24:41 try changing supl.nokia.com to supl.google.com Mar 21 13:24:51 before you flash Mar 21 13:25:00 ok Mar 21 13:26:35 rlinfati: so i can't buy it for my gf? Mar 21 13:27:39 Sicelo, you can Mar 21 13:32:30 also... is someone interested (or have ) in make a mirror of full repositories and sdk of maemo ? i wanna check my list of repositories and external script/file that are needed to make a full offline installation Mar 21 13:34:43 I hope somebody does the mirror before Nokia pulls the plug Mar 21 13:35:36 i'm doing a local copy , i have all the diablo/fremantle sdk and now i'm mirroring the extras repository Mar 21 13:37:06 but are a lot of duplicate stuff as example the libqt4-gui in the cssu has 7 different versions .... and only we need the last one. Mar 21 13:37:41 looks like supl.google.com helped Mar 21 13:38:03 pdanek: yeah, I switched to it several months ago as well Mar 21 13:38:06 Nokia isn't supposed to maintain supl.nokia.com? Mar 21 13:38:17 since many of their N900 are still in warranty Mar 21 13:38:37 it works on other devices afaik Mar 21 13:38:38 just broke on maemo Mar 21 13:38:44 hehe Mar 21 13:38:56 so Nokia service is officially suggesting supl.google.com solution? Mar 21 13:38:59 well, it did not broke itself Mar 21 13:39:16 something / somebody had to break it Mar 21 13:39:23 well put edheldil ;) Mar 21 13:39:33 what do they do, if I bring it to the service? Mar 21 13:39:40 they change it to google.com? Mar 21 13:39:51 :D Mar 21 13:41:15 because I can see that this is nice work-around for me, problem fixed Mar 21 13:41:31 but I doubt that this is the way, how Nokia service is managing it :) Mar 21 13:41:40 to use source of another company Mar 21 13:44:07 hmm probably just some caches need to be cleaned Mar 21 13:44:22 well, they don't 'official' support N900 anyway.. so forget about how Nokia service deals with it :P Mar 21 13:44:22 or firmware reflash may help, I will see, since I planned reflash anyway :) Mar 21 13:44:28 well Mar 21 13:44:35 I have 2year warranty for N900 Mar 21 13:44:35 reflash WONT help Mar 21 13:44:37 :D Mar 21 13:44:43 reflash do not help Mar 21 13:44:50 ok Mar 21 13:44:52 what is supl.m.o or supl.g.c for? Mar 21 13:45:08 A-GPS source servers I suppose Mar 21 13:45:14 A-GPS is network positioning Mar 21 13:45:21 helps GPS to find your location faster Mar 21 13:45:28 nice Mar 21 13:45:39 'cause it sometimes take *ages* Mar 21 13:45:40 pdanek: if you take it to them, they'll say "Yeah, you still have some warrantly left. Here's a brand spanking new E7 for you. Goodbye. Next customer please" Mar 21 13:45:49 ;) Mar 21 13:46:16 anyway, I still have like 7 months of European warranty on my N900, so I don't care they don't support it, if something happens, so they must either service it, or give me the money back right? :) Mar 21 13:46:22 hehe Mar 21 13:46:24 well Mar 21 13:46:31 I don't think law allows that Mar 21 13:46:39 exchange for another phone, if I don't agree with that Mar 21 13:46:51 they must refund the money right? Mar 21 13:46:52 hmm, I guess I need a data plan for that, right? Mar 21 13:46:59 you do Mar 21 13:47:01 (or wifi access) Mar 21 13:47:02 yeah StyXman Mar 21 13:47:03 take new phone, drop new phone on floor, jump on it while they are watching?:) Mar 21 13:47:04 ok Mar 21 13:47:11 lol Mar 21 13:47:13 * Sicelo doesn't use a-gps anyway Mar 21 13:47:43 unassisted gps works well enough for me Mar 21 13:47:44 I didn't and location wasn't really found even after 2 mins. Mar 21 13:47:50 w/o agps Mar 21 13:47:53 hm Mar 21 13:48:08 atleast its not like n810, which takes like 24h for first fix Mar 21 13:48:12 lol Mar 21 13:48:44 btw, I have another problem, althought not Maemo related, so sorry for offtopic Mar 21 13:49:06 ... Mar 21 13:49:08 some small piece of metal was released in stylus hole of my N900 Mar 21 13:49:19 now the stylus doesn't really fit on it :) Mar 21 13:49:39 O.o Mar 21 13:50:01 and I'm sure that no 3rd party item is stuck there, some part of N900 is stuck there Mar 21 13:50:05 i would panic.. risk of shorting something out Mar 21 13:50:08 open it Mar 21 13:50:20 I suppose there's some kind of metal, spring, which does pressure on stylus, to fit in place Mar 21 13:50:23 get service docs from wmo Mar 21 13:50:26 and this one was released Mar 21 13:50:37 hehe Mar 21 13:50:50 I wouldn't, I have warranty and I want new phone anyway lol Mar 21 13:51:29 good days with N900 but the time is gone for me, browser is slow, dispaly is small :) Mar 21 13:52:07 but it's still great phone, no doubt Mar 21 13:52:20 well, good luck with warranty Mar 21 13:52:30 I'll see Mar 21 13:52:43 anyway, thanks for AGPS help Mar 21 13:53:42 just a small note Mar 21 13:53:49 before taking into the service center Mar 21 13:54:00 do you advise original UK image, or it doesn't really matter? Mar 21 13:58:44 doesn't matter. all images are official Mar 21 16:37:43 hy Mar 21 16:42:08 Hi Mar 21 16:55:19 huh, changing a Maemo4 bug status because of Maemo5?! Mar 21 16:56:06 ah, the connection widget license. "never mind" then... Mar 21 17:00:33 hello Mar 21 18:25:34 pdanek, exactly Mar 21 18:25:58 for the spring Mar 21 18:28:29 hello freeman! Mar 21 18:33:54 hello to all.. Mar 21 18:34:18 <_freemangordon> ed_boner, hi Mar 21 18:34:52 ...hi freeman..i got here:)...whatsup? Mar 21 18:35:15 <_freemangordon> well, you tell me :) Mar 21 18:35:27 hehe Mar 21 18:35:36 <_freemangordon> anyway, can you try to open the camera lid without OC? Mar 21 18:35:37 hello Mar 21 18:35:44 well..i think you have read my problems Mar 21 18:36:04 <_freemangordon> I think so, maybe I have missed some part Mar 21 18:36:29 ...an...freman man...you got to take it easy on me...i am just a designer...what is oc? Mar 21 18:36:31 <_freemangordon> AIUI, every time you open the camera lid you got a reboot Mar 21 18:36:43 <_freemangordon> aah, OC stands for overclock Mar 21 18:36:54 ah..hehe...right Mar 21 18:37:19 <_freemangordon> so, move your /etc/default/kernel-power to a safe place and reboot the device Mar 21 18:37:26 so...i dont know how to mess with profiles so i have always your dsp profile enabled, that sounds good? Mar 21 18:37:40 <_freemangordon> enabled as in? Mar 21 18:37:47 <_freemangordon> hoe do you enable it? Mar 21 18:37:51 <_freemangordon> *how Mar 21 18:37:57 is the profile i have as default Mar 21 18:38:17 i do...hm...kernel-config default dsp.. Mar 21 18:38:32 <_freemangordon> ok, so, open xterm, sudo gainroot Mar 21 18:38:43 <_freemangordon> cd /etc/default Mar 21 18:39:08 done Mar 21 18:39:22 <_freemangordon> mv kernel-power kp.bak Mar 21 18:39:57 done...so i have now a backup Mar 21 18:40:02 <_freemangordon> now power off the device Mar 21 18:40:18 <_freemangordon> ..and power it on Mar 21 18:40:45 ok...anyway...is this your job?linux or whatever? Mar 21 18:40:55 u sure are a pro Mar 21 18:41:14 <_freemangordon> well, I am a developer, linux is just a part of the OS-es i am developing for Mar 21 18:41:47 u work in a major company? Mar 21 18:41:49 not many dev jobs entail kernel hacking though Mar 21 18:42:13 ok..its on Mar 21 18:42:43 <_freemangordon> szopeen, I am blessed to have knowledge in both HW ad SW Mar 21 18:42:51 <_freemangordon> ed_boner, now open the lid Mar 21 18:43:53 <_freemangordon> ed_boner, BTW i don't see any crash in /dev/mtd2 produced by KP50. That is very strange. Mar 21 18:44:03 <_freemangordon> while there is a lot from KP49 Mar 21 18:44:36 i have many troubles with k49..mainly because of fking speedpatch i know that now Mar 21 18:44:45 actually cannot think of a single company that would put that in job description, maybe chinese tablet makers for droid driver development Mar 21 18:45:12 or maybe dev for ubuntu Mar 21 18:45:19 <_freemangordon> szopeen, kernel is not so different from userland (at least for me) Mar 21 18:45:24 with that value change u recommended in your pm the crashes seem less frequent.. Mar 21 18:45:37 but yes... Mar 21 18:45:46 just tested it..it happened ahain Mar 21 18:45:46 other distros don't really offer jobs and work on community coop afaik Mar 21 18:46:17 <_freemangordon> ed_boner, how long it takes from opening the lid to restart? Mar 21 18:46:19 _freemangordon: yeah, bulgaria brought quite a few hackers up :) Mar 21 18:46:49 ...so...i have a reboot if i open lid, have n900 in vertical position, and video mode enabled in camera ui Mar 21 18:46:51 <_freemangordon> szopeen, that was a long time ago, now I see only script-kids Mar 21 18:47:10 they all moved to states Mar 21 18:47:39 just made the test again after the crash opening the lid with the phone horizontal and all is ok Mar 21 18:47:46 <_freemangordon> ed_boner, you had to start with that from the begining Mar 21 18:48:00 ? Mar 21 18:48:05 what? Mar 21 18:48:09 <_freemangordon> I am able to reproduce the same here :) Mar 21 18:48:17 ahhhh Mar 21 18:48:19 btw, int_ua is going to patch his script for nemo .37, so thumb2 should be fixed Mar 21 18:48:19 <_freemangordon> with correct bug description Mar 21 18:48:35 hehe..damn...not much objective..sorry Mar 21 18:49:16 ok...sorry about that then...anyway..good to know i am not alone and that now that you see it you can help Mar 21 18:49:17 <_freemangordon> ed_boner, thanks, but seems it is not a bug in KP, but in xorg or whoever knows. Anyway, I will look into it. Mar 21 18:49:34 ok...thank you freeman Mar 21 18:49:45 and...about the red light... Mar 21 18:49:56 <_freemangordon> wontfix :) Mar 21 18:49:59 you also get a = in every reboot? Mar 21 18:50:09 <_freemangordon> make a script in /etc/event.d Mar 21 18:50:10 a 0 Mar 21 18:50:36 * int_ua got into chroot to try installing Nemo kernel from RPMs just seconds before the mention Mar 21 18:50:43 <_freemangordon> take some of the existing for example Mar 21 18:51:02 an...i am getting lost now...are you still talking to me? Mar 21 18:51:13 <_freemangordon> int_ua, so we now have kernel with thumb errata workaround fixed? Mar 21 18:51:22 <_freemangordon> ed_boner, yeah, I was talking to you Mar 21 18:51:58 ok...so....u want me to go to /etc/event.d in filebox and do what? Mar 21 18:52:10 <_freemangordon> ed_boner, google a bit, ok? Mar 21 18:52:30 <_freemangordon> or ask on TMO, I really am running out of time :) Mar 21 18:52:42 <_freemangordon> *I am really Mar 21 18:53:01 ok, ok, sorry to bother then, and tks for the help... Mar 21 18:53:07 <_freemangordon> np Mar 21 18:53:28 ..this is a strange world.yhe coding world and everything is strange to me, so i am a bit slow Mar 21 18:54:52 anyway...can i get the red light permanently disabled?...even after reboot? if u have some time maybe you could post some tut on the forum Mar 21 18:55:56 for hipernoobs like me:D Mar 21 18:57:02 thanks for all your help, see you, bye Mar 21 19:02:42 _freemangordon: I will (dist-upgrade in process) try to install Nemo kernel on Ubuntu 12.04 right now, but I'm not sure that it will install or even boot right now. Mar 21 19:03:33 * int_ua reads previous conversations Mar 21 19:17:12 that was strange Mar 21 19:18:53 not sure if anything got through: mitm attacker didn't set routing for login page where you enter password on a pub network, initial dauth leave two clients reconnecting, one sends 2x more packets than the other, would assumption that it is the attacker be correct? Mar 21 19:18:57 szopeen: The previous conversation was about KP50, why did you mentioned Nemo kernel? Mar 21 19:19:16 int_ua: it got thumb2 errata Mar 21 19:19:27 should make the boots stable Mar 21 19:19:43 most likely culprit in the fails of ubuntu bootups Mar 21 19:20:12 szopeen: But I'm doing it in Ubuntu and the talk was about Maemo, was it? Mar 21 19:20:59 got 11.10 running quite ok with your script but random reboots did occur Mar 21 19:20:59 nemo kernel could fix that Mar 21 19:21:14 seen your patch post at work, fingers crossed so hard it hurts Mar 21 19:21:20 szopeen: oh, ok, got it :) Mar 21 19:21:32 with ofono this could be awesome, speed is very impressive Mar 21 19:21:56 and catalogue even more Mar 21 19:22:08 szopeen: dist-upgrade is still running (almost typed "ruining") Mar 21 19:22:12 they got everything arm ready Mar 21 19:22:17 :D Mar 21 19:22:29 hope to test it tonight Mar 21 19:22:43 takes a while (got 1.5h late for work:) Mar 21 19:23:31 szopeen: Well, I can push new revision right now if you want Mar 21 19:23:43 but it's still untested Mar 21 19:23:53 will do the testing :) Mar 21 19:24:13 btw, would using predownloaded packages be possible? Mar 21 19:24:24 would shorten the test time quite a bit Mar 21 19:24:50 szopeen: yes, just place it into the files/ dir Mar 21 19:24:51 downloading them once per config/revisio would save some time Mar 21 19:24:59 alright, awesome Mar 21 19:25:10 szopeen: you meant RPMs, right? Mar 21 19:25:31