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Mar 25 03:04:57 <Macer> yeah it would
Mar 25 03:05:23 <Macer> i was trying to run it without the need to run maemo .... i'll track down gentoo i suppose i remember luke-jr working on that garbage distro on the n810
Mar 25 03:06:01 <luke-jr> f u
Mar 25 03:57:31 <Macer> LOL
Mar 25 03:57:39 <Macer> damn luke-jr .... didn't even notice you were here :)
Mar 25 03:57:57 <Macer> my n900 doesn't seem to be keeping its battery life long enough
Mar 25 03:59:03 <Macer> how long is an n900 supposed to last without touching it with the screen off?
Mar 25 04:02:32 <robbiethe1st> Macer: if no programs are running? several days
Mar 25 04:02:41 <robbiethe1st> If programs are still running? 8-24 hours
Mar 25 04:04:28 <Macer> hm. does that include widgets?
Mar 25 04:04:38 <Macer> or do those turn off when the scren is off?
Mar 25 04:05:22 <Macer> i'm going to leave it alone and see how long it lasts... seems to be draining much faster than normal but then again i use it constantly but it seems off
Mar 25 04:13:34 <SpeedEvil> Macer: 4 days+
Mar 25 04:13:55 <SpeedEvil> Macer: also - powertop
Mar 25 04:14:00 <SpeedEvil> and the battery meter script
Mar 25 04:14:32 <SpeedEvil> Also - batteries purchased when the n900 is new will now have a ridiculous amount of internal resistnace.
Mar 25 04:14:42 <SpeedEvil> even a 1.99 one from ebay is an improvement
Mar 25 04:25:27 <robbiethe1st> New battery wise, I recommend the ~$10 Japod ones off DealExtreme
Mar 25 04:30:01 <Macer> i am using the $1.99 ebay ones ;)
Mar 25 04:30:02 <Macer> lol
Mar 25 04:30:25 <Macer> i will try out powertop
Mar 25 04:31:53 <Macer> i dont see a powertop
Mar 25 04:32:02 <Macer> is it in devel or testing?
Mar 25 04:32:21 <psycho_oreos> most likely in devel but could also be in testing
Mar 25 04:47:49 <Macer> hm
Mar 25 04:48:18 <Macer> powertop is segfaulting
Mar 25 04:52:29 <SpeedEvil> http://www.mauve.plus.com/powertop
Mar 25 04:52:40 <SpeedEvil> I have no idea if this is the same version - WFM though
Mar 25 05:27:11 <Macer> goddamn
Mar 25 05:27:25 <Macer> margaret thatcher was awesome
Mar 25 05:27:30 <Macer> SINK IT!
Mar 25 05:27:31 <Macer> lol
Mar 25 09:04:37 <LaoLang_cool> hello
Mar 25 09:05:11 <LaoLang_cool> any fmms user? picture i mms of fmms is too small, can I get it larger?
Mar 25 09:05:29 <LaoLang_cool> s/\<i\>/in
Mar 25 09:06:03 <LaoLang_cool> I've set "Resize to" to large, but it doesn't work, or maybe it's another meaning that I misunderstand?...
Mar 25 09:14:50 <darkschneider> any way to sync n900 with icalendar format?
Mar 25 09:18:59 <r00t|home> in worst case you'll have to write some code...
Mar 25 09:20:39 <lartza_> perhaps you could sync evolution with icalendar and sync n900 with evolution
Mar 25 09:49:29 <DocScrutinizer> Macer: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=491333#post491333
Mar 25 09:52:25 <DocScrutinizer> this powertop is a big mystery, as it seems nobody knows where from it originally came
Mar 25 09:53:07 <DocScrutinizer> probably Nokia "forgot to delete" it when shipping first developer/tester N900s
Mar 25 10:00:50 <DocScrutinizer> o.O powertop
Mar 25 10:00:57 <DocScrutinizer> http://maemo.org/packages/view/powertop/
Mar 25 10:01:21 <DocScrutinizer> MohammadAG: WTF is the surce?
Mar 25 10:01:25 <DocScrutinizer> source*
Mar 25 10:04:09 <DocScrutinizer> MohammadAG: and where's the changelog, and what are the diffs between 1.13 and 1.2?
Mar 25 10:23:32 <DocScrutinizer> dang, I'm fiddling with maemo since quite some years now, yet it never occurred to me to simly browse to http://repository.maemo.org/ on any NIT
Mar 25 10:38:23 <MohammadAG> DocScrutinizer: It's a package containing nokia's binary, I have no source
Mar 25 10:39:01 <DocScrutinizer> why are you and this guy with unspeakable name maintainers?
Mar 25 10:39:20 <MohammadAG> 1.13 is the PC version, I packaged Nokia's version
Mar 25 10:39:30 <MohammadAG> From the binary on tmo
Mar 25 10:39:36 <DocScrutinizer> mhmmmm
Mar 25 10:39:53 <DocScrutinizer> I'm running 1.13.2 here on N900 just fine
Mar 25 10:39:54 <MohammadAG> Which is from PR1.0 iirc
Mar 25 10:40:18 <MohammadAG> Afaik nokia's version has changes or sth
Mar 25 10:40:34 <MohammadAG> Anyway, I did it for convenience
Mar 25 10:40:38 <DocScrutinizer> wtf is "nokia's version"?
Mar 25 10:40:49 <MohammadAG> Ask ShadowJK or SpeedEvil 
Mar 25 10:40:58 <MohammadAG> One of them knows
Mar 25 10:40:59 <DocScrutinizer> or rather, what's NOT nokia's version?
Mar 25 10:42:57 <DocScrutinizer> as metioned I got Powertop 1.13.3 here on device, quite certainly from tmo post I linked above, and it works fine and seems what everybody is using
Mar 25 10:44:12 <DocScrutinizer> I foggy remember I bitched why there's no powertop on my device, when I was new to N900 (aka PR1.0)
Mar 25 10:45:14 <MohammadAG> DocScrutinizer: Oh 1.2 is just a bumped package version, powertop itself is 1.13 from tmo
Mar 25 10:45:55 <MohammadAG> The major bump is due to some fuckup by the maemo.org packaging system
Mar 25 10:46:26 <MohammadAG> It didn't accept 1.13-1 I think, don't remember exactly, this was over a year ago
Mar 25 10:51:46 <DocScrutinizer> dang, forced disconnect
Mar 25 10:51:54 <DocScrutinizer> I foggy remember I bitched why there's no powertop on my device, when I was new to N900 (aka PR1.0)
Mar 25 10:51:57 <DocScrutinizer> incredibly obscure history of that tool
Mar 25 10:52:00 <DocScrutinizer> quite evidently what we got on N900 is only loosely related to intel's powertop
Mar 25 10:53:31 <DocScrutinizer> all hail to povbot irclogs
Mar 25 10:53:38 <DocScrutinizer> MohammadAG: :nod:
Mar 25 10:53:51 <DocScrutinizer> thanks for packaging
Mar 25 10:55:00 <DocScrutinizer> mgedmin: probably it's been mentioned WAY too rarely: many thanks for povbot and logging
Mar 25 10:55:23 <MohammadAG> Yw :)
Mar 25 10:57:25 <DocScrutinizer> figure it! FIVE MINUTES until friggin DSL allowed reconnect. Long enough to make me think I'm obviously breathing bytes, not air 
Mar 25 10:57:32 <DocScrutinizer> ;-D
Mar 25 10:58:46 <DocScrutinizer> (dang, msg from supervisor: "all scripts breathe bytes, you idiot")
Mar 25 12:02:22 <darkschneider> hello, anyone using syncEvolution with horde via syncML, the only info is quite outdated (2006) and looks like a bit has changed
Mar 25 13:07:26 <DocScrutinizer> I'd not expect any info from 2006 being applicable at all today
Mar 25 13:49:03 <darkschneider> DocScrutinizer: yes indeed :)
Mar 25 13:49:38 <darkschneider> i'm still trying to figure it out :D at least i found the config file... but now figuring out the rest looks more complex
Mar 25 13:51:34 <DocScrutinizer> darkschneider: I think there should be some better more recent info about syncing at large in wiki
Mar 25 13:51:55 <darkschneider> mmmm i'll regoogle if you say so
Mar 25 13:51:55 <DocScrutinizer> no idea how much this is applicable to your particular usecase though
Mar 25 13:52:43 <darkschneider> yeah, but i did not found much, so let's look again, syncML is not that uncommon... (that why i installed horde on our productions server at first :D )
Mar 25 13:55:18 <DocScrutinizer> WTF happened to wiki layout??
Mar 25 13:56:43 <DocScrutinizer> http://wiki.maemo.org/Special:Search?ns0=1&search=sync&searchx=Search
Mar 25 13:57:54 <DocScrutinizer> MEH there's an almost invisible search textbox uper right. Anybody else "seeing" this as grey in grey, without any label?
Mar 25 13:59:10 <DocScrutinizer> darkschneider: is http://wiki.maemo.org/Sync/Usage_of_syncevolution what you were looking for?
Mar 25 13:59:37 <darkschneider> (thanks on phone)
Mar 25 14:04:51 <DocScrutinizer> http://wiki.maemo.org/Special:Search?search=syncml&go=Go
Mar 25 14:05:53 <darkschneider> (re, you know sunday.. gf calls, thanks for help, looking at links now)
Mar 25 14:07:04 <darkschneider> ok the first two results and the other are the one i was looking at already, daly they do not offer much insight  :(
Mar 25 14:08:34 <darkschneider> indeed, horde, even if listed as supported, does not have a template ready, this is because horde is not a company offerend service, but it'a a framework (sorry if i'm saying something obvious to you, do not want to be offensive)
Mar 25 14:09:30 <darkschneider> i wonder if i can find a way to contact one of syncevolution guys and updated the wiki with his help
Mar 25 15:04:22 <darkschneider> DocScrutinizer: just to give away some happyness, i do not know how i managed to sync calendar... for contacts i'm working on it... so it's possible to have it work
Mar 25 15:04:53 <DocScrutinizer> cool
Mar 25 15:05:08 <DocScrutinizer> comsider to update the wiki, please :-)
Mar 25 15:05:31 <darkschneider> yeah, if i manage to make contacts work i will for sure, it's needed
Mar 25 15:05:39 <DocScrutinizer> indeed
Mar 25 15:05:49 <darkschneider> none should be condamned to spend 6 hours on it like me :D
Mar 25 15:05:51 <DocScrutinizer> much appreciated, thanks a lot
Mar 25 15:06:20 <darkschneider> but wait... contacts are still to make work...
Mar 25 15:06:55 <DocScrutinizer> I'm sure each detail on what you found is valuable, even when you get stuck somewhere
Mar 25 15:07:55 <DocScrutinizer> so thers could avoid same deadends and continue where you stopped (in case you actually get stuck, or lose interest)
Mar 25 15:08:06 <DocScrutinizer> others*
Mar 25 15:08:16 <darkschneider> yep you right, bettter i write some lines just now
Mar 25 15:08:29 <darkschneider> ok time for anoteh registration on a wiki :D
Mar 25 15:08:44 <DocScrutinizer> it's awiki, it doesn't mind frequent edits, as long as they aren't too messy
Mar 25 15:09:26 <DocScrutinizer> and for the really "volatile" stuff there's a discussion page backed up on each wiki page
Mar 25 15:10:06 <DocScrutinizer> a widely unrealized and underrated feature
Mar 25 15:10:06 <darkschneider> i see, as usual but if there is any detail i should know say me
Mar 25 15:10:26 <DocScrutinizer> no special details
Mar 25 15:10:53 <DocScrutinizer> just do yourself and reviewers a favour and register
Mar 25 15:11:23 <DocScrutinizer> it's way more convenient to edit wiki when you're registered
Mar 25 15:12:01 <DocScrutinizer> and we don't need to review every single little edit of yours once we know you're not a spammer
Mar 25 15:14:25 <DocScrutinizer> try to keep in mind this wiki is about maemo, not about N900
Mar 25 15:15:20 <darkschneider> argh right, that will be a problem
Mar 25 15:15:47 <darkschneider> as it's the only maemo device i have tried, so i do not know differences
Mar 25 15:17:08 <DocScrutinizer> no problem, just don't forget to set your topics right, so othwrs know what you're actually talking about
Mar 25 15:18:21 <DocScrutinizer> especially think twice befoe you "fix" things that seem to be ncorrect *for N900*
Mar 25 15:19:01 <DocScrutinizer> they might be meant for older maemo versins, and somebody else has missed to set his topics right
Mar 25 15:19:18 <darkschneider> k
Mar 25 15:19:39 <DocScrutinizer> if in doubt, just ask here for a review
Mar 25 15:24:34 <DocScrutinizer> to get an idea about the "problem", just look at flashing page content as well as history ;-)
Mar 25 15:24:37 <DocScrutinizer> ~flashing
Mar 25 15:24:38 <infobot> it has been said that maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware
Mar 25 15:25:18 <darkschneider> i see
Mar 25 15:25:35 <DocScrutinizer> last resort was me adding >>This page has seen massive edits to get it in line with N900 details of flashing. N8x0 owners might want to have a look to older versions, like http://wiki.maemo.org/index.php?title=Updating_the_firmware&oldid=17120 <<
Mar 25 15:25:46 <darkschneider> lol poor
Mar 25 15:26:13 <darkschneider> ok starting to edit
Mar 25 16:10:05 <darkschneider> DocScrutinizer: should i sign?
Mar 25 16:10:49 <DocScrutinizer> sign as in "---" (or whatever it was)? nah, not on front pages, but for sure on discussion pages
Mar 25 16:11:24 <DocScrutinizer> sign as in "register/sign-in": sure!
Mar 25 16:11:47 <darkschneider> ok ready for your reading if you have time: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sync/Usage_of_syncevolution#Horde
Mar 25 16:12:04 <DocScrutinizer> I'll give it a cursory look
Mar 25 16:12:12 <darkschneider> i meant as to signature, thanks
Mar 25 16:12:25 <darkschneider> so i can edit and fix things if you find terrible stuff
Mar 25 16:12:48 <darkschneider> hey you have to follow your name! I try to be dark and schnider all the time :)
Mar 25 16:14:08 <darkschneider> ok found a typo. if you find more, say so i make one edit for all typos
Mar 25 16:14:46 <DocScrutinizer> looks pretty fine :-)
Mar 25 16:15:41 <DocScrutinizer> sorry no time to give it a thorough proofread now, will come back to it later
Mar 25 16:16:11 <DocScrutinizer> many thanks!
Mar 25 16:17:27 <darkschneider> no prob :) really thanks already for all your time :)
Mar 25 16:17:34 <DocScrutinizer> YW
Mar 25 16:50:45 <merlin1991> darkschneider: found a few typos: I did not test it/ Now press the title bar/ but add/ any more detail/ or the sync style
Mar 25 16:51:25 <Macer> DocScrutinizer: lol. well it is segfaulting
Mar 25 16:51:43 <DocScrutinizer> eh?
Mar 25 16:51:56 <Macer> poeertop
Mar 25 16:52:03 <Macer> from the devel repo
Mar 25 16:52:21 <DocScrutinizer> hmmm
Mar 25 16:52:29 <Macer> i just removed the widgets
Mar 25 16:52:39 <Macer> and will see if they are the cause of the drain
Mar 25 16:53:36 <DocScrutinizer> the one from tmo .zip just works for me
Mar 25 16:53:45 <Macer> hm
Mar 25 16:53:52 <Macer> where is it?
Mar 25 16:53:57 <Macer> i will download it
Mar 25 16:54:06 <Macer> the repo one is broken
Mar 25 16:54:20 <Macer> i am losing power somewhere and dont know where
Mar 25 16:55:11 <Macer> algthough.. i am using battery eye to see the power drain. during use i really lose it but that is understandable
Mar 25 16:55:24 <Macer> but when idle i am still only getting arounf 10 hrs
Mar 25 16:55:29 <Macer> around
Mar 25 17:15:29 <DocScrutinizer> I pasted the link already
Mar 25 17:15:35 <DocScrutinizer> see backscroll
Mar 25 18:12:19 <Macer> ugh
Mar 25 18:12:24 <Macer> i want to run
Mar 25 18:12:34 <Macer> and ecoach and the gps is taking forever to lock
Mar 25 18:12:45 <Macer> wtf?
Mar 25 18:12:58 <Macer> isnt agps supposed to help with this?
Mar 25 18:13:20 <DocScrutinizer> yes
Mar 25 18:13:39 <DocScrutinizer> what's your supl server?
Mar 25 18:13:55 <Macer> the nokia one
Mar 25 18:14:02 <DocScrutinizer> forget it, use google
Mar 25 18:14:03 <Macer> is there a better one?
Mar 25 18:14:10 <Macer> what is google's?
Mar 25 18:14:18 <DocScrutinizer> same, just google
Mar 25 18:14:24 <Macer> supl.google.com?
Mar 25 18:14:29 <DocScrutinizer> yup iirc
Mar 25 18:15:12 <Macer> wow lol
Mar 25 18:15:17 <DocScrutinizer> works?
Mar 25 18:15:19 <Macer> once i put it in it locked lol
Mar 25 18:15:23 <DocScrutinizer> heh
Mar 25 18:15:25 <DocScrutinizer> :-D
Mar 25 18:15:33 <Macer> nice :)
Mar 25 18:15:45 <DocScrutinizer> actually not nice - of Nokia
Mar 25 18:16:04 <Macer> yeah
Mar 25 18:16:20 <Macer> as long as it works tho... ok... let me get my run on lol
Mar 25 18:22:02 <darkschneider> merlin1991: thanks, fixing them now
Mar 25 18:37:30 <darkschneider> Macer: it is taking forever.. i never managed to improve it without a small trick: open maep, no idea why, but with that open localization become much faster (i tested also the same with ovi maps...)
Mar 25 19:20:07 <Macer> nice
Mar 25 19:20:15 <Macer> that thing locked like a champ .. thanks :)
Mar 25 19:20:48 <Macer> darkschneider: it seemed to lock on almost 20secs after i changed from supl.nokia.com to supl.google.com
Mar 25 19:20:59 <Macer> don't know if it was that or it just finally locked on but it worked great
Mar 25 19:21:09 <Macer> ecoach kind of sucks tho..but it gets the job done :)
Mar 25 19:21:52 <darkschneider> yah ecoach miss features 
Mar 25 19:22:01 <darkschneider> i think author needs stilumus
Mar 25 19:22:09 <darkschneider> since the base is very good
Mar 25 19:22:10 <Macer> well.. it isn't as good as endomondo on android at the least
Mar 25 19:22:22 <darkschneider> true, but it's a problem of userbase
Mar 25 19:22:25 <Macer> but it still works well enough
Mar 25 19:22:34 <Macer> maybe... lazy n900 users don't want to work out :)
Mar 25 19:22:41 <darkschneider> i have to say that battery wise it's good also
Mar 25 19:22:45 <Macer> only people with iphones work out heh
Mar 25 19:22:48 <darkschneider> eheh yeah
Mar 25 19:23:02 <darkschneider> naa ihpone people use the app to show they have the app
Mar 25 19:23:09 <Macer> lol
Mar 25 19:23:11 <darkschneider> they just start it "because it's cool" :D
Mar 25 19:23:28 <Macer> well.. some of them run with it strapped to their arm to show they have an iphone every now and then
Mar 25 19:23:48 <Macer> nobody cares about my n900 :(
Mar 25 19:24:05 <Macer> i bet they would if i started shooting the built in death ray at them
Mar 25 19:24:42 <darkschneider> and they think it's cool to share around. When i learned course length and such, i stopped needing ecoach to track my progress :D Sad enough i bout the very nice polar wearlink bt sensor, but it's the only one not supported! don't do my name error... if you buy a sensor get anohter (even if the sensor quality will be lower and price higher)
Mar 25 19:25:36 <darkschneider> i hears they have an app against death rays called iDodge, but not sure they are really enough a.g.i.l.e. to use it :D
Mar 25 19:26:15 <darkschneider> (what a terrible coder joke.. ok sorry... i'll go back trying to have things done)
Mar 25 19:36:01 <vizzy> hi. is it right that there was a powerkernel update a few days before?
Mar 25 19:37:11 <vizzy> i ask because i updated to the new version as my n900 suggested. now some of the apps wont run. e.g. wlan gets unstable, bleeding edge drivers wont load, marble wont start, ans some other apps that were working nicely before stopped working or exit unexpected
Mar 25 19:48:44 <vizzy> im confused about all the shorts, OC, SR etc
Mar 25 19:48:54 <vizzy> can i revert to kp49 somehow?
Mar 25 19:50:30 <freemangordon> vizzy, you need bleeding edge drivers kompiled against KP50, see the thread on TMO on how to get them
Mar 25 19:50:35 <freemangordon> *compiled
Mar 25 19:50:48 <vizzy> i read something about that, yes
Mar 25 19:50:57 <vizzy> but i have no clue how to do it
Mar 25 19:51:04 <vizzy> tmo?
Mar 25 19:51:10 <freemangordon> talk.maemo.org
Mar 25 19:51:36 <vizzy> ah, already there, reading through the kp50 thread, which is confusing  me much more
Mar 25 19:51:43 <freemangordon> why?
Mar 25 19:54:14 <vizzy> because my english isnt that good and i dont understand all the shorts
Mar 25 19:54:20 <vizzy> what is sr?
Mar 25 19:54:32 <vizzy> oc is over clocking i 'guess' after a while
Mar 25 19:54:36 <Sicelo> Smart Reflex
Mar 25 19:54:37 <freemangordon> aah, that stands for SmartReflex
Mar 25 19:55:13 <vizzy> ok, and what is smart reflex? *g sorry to ask , but i heard that before, or i see an option somewhere but i have no clue what it does
Mar 25 19:55:26 <vizzy> or if i have it activated or not :)
Mar 25 19:55:30 <freemangordon> promises to use abbreviations never again on talk.maemo.org
Mar 25 19:55:53 <freemangordon> vizzy, better use it, it should give you better battery life
Mar 25 19:56:41 <vizzy> ok, if i find the option again i will enable it
Mar 25 19:57:00 <freemangordon> otherwise just google for smartreflex, there are good explanations over the internet
Mar 25 19:57:19 <freemangordon> vizzy, where do you expect to find that option?
Mar 25 19:57:29 <vizzy> but i really would like to have my old kp49 back, it was working nice, i didnt expect problems after updating to kp50, but now a lot of apps are going crazy it seems
Mar 25 19:57:39 <vizzy> freemangordon, tell me
Mar 25 19:58:34 <freemangordon> vizzy, KP50 should be more stable than KP49, what overclocking profile do you use? or do you use some fancy application to set up kernel-power and overclocking?
Mar 25 19:59:10 <vizzy> overclocking profile? no, i had a widget running on the desktop that let me select cpu speed....
Mar 25 19:59:13 <darkschneider> yess :)) did it, ok updating the guide so that eveybody cn sync with horde :) ( i'm sure there is at least one other sysadmin in the world that want that his phone get synced with horde)
Mar 25 19:59:32 <freemangordon> vizzy, which widget is that?
Mar 25 19:59:51 <vizzy> good question, it always has gone after a reboot, like most widgets
Mar 25 20:00:06 <freemangordon> what?
Mar 25 20:00:27 <vizzy> maxCPU is its name
Mar 25 20:00:56 <vizzy> freemangordon, yes, for me i cant add widgets to desktop that will stay there after a reboot
Mar 25 20:01:11 <freemangordon> well, that is not normal. at all
Mar 25 20:01:18 <NIN102> your system is messed up. 
Mar 25 20:01:32 <freemangordon> :nod:
Mar 25 20:02:14 <vizzy> grml :) 
Mar 25 20:02:28 <freemangordon> vizzy, do you have root access enabled. i.e. rootsh?
Mar 25 20:02:33 <vizzy> qcpufreq let me select smartreflex, i enabled it now
Mar 25 20:02:43 <vizzy> freemangordon, yes, i use ssh for this
Mar 25 20:02:50 <freemangordon> good
Mar 25 21:50:20 <MrPingu> howdy
Mar 25 22:29:49 <DocScrutinizer> darkschneider: nice! :-D
Mar 25 22:30:38 <darkschneider> :) yep i'm happy, it basically works now :) i just have to convince syncevolution guy to add a template for horde, so users can just select it from the list and they do not have to do something "special" anymore
Mar 25 22:31:17 <DocScrutinizer> darkschneider: who's the syncevo guy?
Mar 25 22:32:23 <darkschneider> also overcoming syncevolution "only one sync a day" is something i will add a note of. Tomorrow i test with allarmd, but the fact that it's only in -devel is bad. he is named Patrick Ohly
Mar 25 22:33:37 <darkschneider> i think he is the main developer (maybe from intel? given that syncevo was moblin, if i understood right)
Mar 25 22:34:53 <DocScrutinizer> darkschneider: what is only in -devel? alarmed?
Mar 25 22:35:04 <darkschneider> yes, that what i read around
Mar 25 22:35:32 <DocScrutinizer> alarmed is working nicely, thanks to shapeshifter for the great app
Mar 25 22:36:31 <darkschneider> i see it is, many cite it with pleasure, it's needed for sync, you can't live by sync just once a day, that why i want to add a note about it
Mar 25 22:36:40 <darkschneider> it's something most of users will want
Mar 25 22:36:52 <DocScrutinizer> :nod:
Mar 25 22:38:52 <DocScrutinizer> iirc shapeshifter actually implemented my suggestion to do custom actions in alarmd via scripts you can select
Mar 25 22:39:17 <DocScrutinizer> so you could ship the matching alarmed script to control syncevo
Mar 25 22:39:42 <darkschneider> interesting
Mar 25 22:39:52 <darkschneider> that is something i like
Mar 25 22:40:45 <DocScrutinizer> of course you also could implement the UI into syncevo and it controls alarmed via cmdline parameters
Mar 25 22:41:24 <DocScrutinizer> the CLI should be comprehensive
Mar 25 22:41:25 <darkschneider> nut the command line to execute will need a parameter so mmm i have to see if there is away to guess it. mm I can, but i perceive syncevo as an unfriendly opensource project
Mar 25 22:41:42 <darkschneider> s/not/but
Mar 25 22:41:55 <DocScrutinizer> :nod:
Mar 25 22:42:16 <DocScrutinizer> cmdline interface has proper help
Mar 25 22:43:00 <darkschneider> like you know.. one of those project that is opensource, but it's not really open... same feeling you get when you talk to amd official open driver developer... it's "open" like a jail.. air will pass, people not
Mar 25 22:43:03 <DocScrutinizer> but you can as well resort to alarmed GUI to select syncevo as action for arbitrary alarm event 
Mar 25 22:43:33 <DocScrutinizer> mhm
Mar 25 22:44:36 <darkschneider> i'll have a look tomorrow and see what is best... maybe i should write syncevo guy and see the reply before thinking he is not open.. but i really fear he will reply badly.. and then my mood of putting time in this instead of good ol' payed work would decline by far... you know i coded enough years for free open source project....
Mar 25 22:44:57 <DocScrutinizer> anyway, if you find anything odd in alarmed, please ping shapeshifter and/or me. I helped a bit with the app and I'm very interested in it working correctly and being convenient to use
Mar 25 22:45:20 <darkschneider> sure! that is a nice offer :)
Mar 25 22:47:01 * DocScrutinizer would also like to know how to run backup app unattended, but hasn't found anything yet
Mar 25 22:47:46 <DocScrutinizer> for the obvious purpose of doing backups on a rgular schedule
Mar 25 22:48:22 <darkschneider> yep... losing phone pics and such is very bad...
Mar 25 22:49:01 <DocScrutinizer> well, I shipped around that by doing backups to my PC via cronjob and rsync via ssh
Mar 25 22:49:51 <DocScrutinizer> and, of course, with backupmenu. THE app for N900
Mar 25 22:51:23 <darkschneider> i just dump the thing via rsync and ssh to my server.. but it's a crappy approach
Mar 25 22:51:41 <darkschneider> i think i'll investigate yours
Mar 25 23:00:11 <DocScrutinizer> ~jrtools
Mar 25 23:00:12 <infobot> from memory, jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools
Mar 25 23:00:34 <DocScrutinizer> my approach is not any different ;-)
Mar 25 23:00:51 <darkschneider> will see :)
Mar 25 23:01:09 <darkschneider> btw going sleep, i just figured it's 1.00 here.. need sleeeep
Mar 25 23:01:15 <DocScrutinizer> but get backupmenu, it's indispensible
Mar 25 23:01:24 <darkschneider> :) thansk for all the help and support today :)
Mar 25 23:01:31 <darkschneider> i will :)
Mar 25 23:01:46 <DocScrutinizer> hmm, same for me, but I'm hurt by the summertime
Mar 25 23:02:19 <DocScrutinizer> yw, thanks for doing a much needed update to wiki
Mar 25 23:02:51 <darkschneider> :)
Mar 25 23:19:14 <Cor-Ai> sorry for that!
Mar 26 00:14:02 <unlimitedesire27> hi
Mar 26 00:14:07 <unlimitedesire27> good evening
Mar 26 00:23:59 <ShadowJK> evening
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