**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Mar 27 02:59:58 2012
Mar 27 04:43:17 <Sicelo> I installed u-boot (Pali's version), and i could only boot stock kernel, instead of KP49 i had before.. now device doesn't even boot at all - but gets stuck at 'Booting kernel..." state. any suggestions?
Mar 27 04:44:53 <Sicelo> besides using NIN101's RescueOS
Mar 27 05:27:59 <loz`> hello
Mar 27 05:28:46 <loz`> i installed backupmenu from devel, and now phone doesnt start now =\
Mar 27 05:30:37 <loz`> ok, after i get out / insert battery it starts
Mar 27 06:29:49 <Sicelo> :)
Mar 27 07:01:04 <DocScrutinizer> I wonder what you're doing
Mar 27 07:04:19 <Sicelo> me?
Mar 27 07:05:26 <DocScrutinizer> yes, you too
Mar 27 07:05:48 <DocScrutinizer> you're aware that uboot and kernel form a compound
Mar 27 07:05:49 <DocScrutinizer> ?
Mar 27 07:06:38 <DocScrutinizer> and you're aware that kernel and modules in rootfs have to match?
Mar 27 07:07:38 <Sicelo> yeah.. i installed quite carefully according to Pali's instructions
Mar 27 07:07:44 <DocScrutinizer> mhm
Mar 27 07:07:55 <Sicelo> i guess i'm one of the unlucky ones with 2204 hw revisions
Mar 27 07:08:56 <DocScrutinizer> so "i could only boot stock kernel, instead of KP49 i had before" actually means when you prepared a uboot+kernel compount with kp49, it fauled?
Mar 27 07:09:12 <DocScrutinizer> and when you did same with stock kernel, it worked?
Mar 27 07:09:44 <Sicelo> Pali provides an image with all kernels (in /boot .. and the corresponding bootmenu entries)
Mar 27 07:09:57 <Sicelo> so i didn't have to do any configuring on my part
Mar 27 07:10:14 <DocScrutinizer> errr
Mar 27 07:10:28 <Sicelo> but only stock booted at first. now i just get stuck at uboot screen
Mar 27 07:11:20 <DocScrutinizer> still every kernel yu boot *needs* matching modules
Mar 27 07:11:35 <freemangordon> Sicelo, my second n900 is 2204, NP with u-boot
Mar 27 07:11:39 <Sicelo> the modules are still there
Mar 27 07:13:06 <DocScrutinizer> Sicelo: the MATCHING modules, not a random selection of any modules
Mar 27 07:13:27 <DocScrutinizer> kp49 needs modules built for kp49
Mar 27 07:13:35 <Sicelo> i mean kp49 modules
Mar 27 07:13:39 <Sicelo> i have them
Mar 27 07:14:17 <Sicelo> i wonder if there's some way to 'override' uboot
Mar 27 07:14:38 <freemangordon> use flasher to flash only the kernel
Mar 27 07:14:57 <DocScrutinizer> if you have one or two bad blocks too much in NAND, the space in kernel mtd partition might simply be too small
Mar 27 07:17:06 <DocScrutinizer> this is not related to hw-rev
Mar 27 07:17:30 <freemangordon> DocScrutinizer, actually there were times it was IIRC
Mar 27 07:17:50 <DocScrutinizer> o.O
Mar 27 07:17:53 <freemangordon> but yeah, not now
Mar 27 07:18:15 <freemangordon> I remember titan had hard times with KP45 and u-boot
Mar 27 07:18:28 <Sicelo> Fabry too http://talk.maemo.org/member.php?u=48410
Mar 27 07:18:43 <DocScrutinizer> sure, so what?
Mar 27 07:19:26 <Sicelo> nothing DocScrutinizer. just mentioning
Mar 27 07:19:43 <DocScrutinizer> I'm just saying there are other specific properties of the particular device than hw-revision
Mar 27 07:19:53 <Sicelo> i hve been wanting to flash device for a while now.. maybe this is the opportunity :/
Mar 27 07:21:57 <DocScrutinizer> and the problem of size(kp)+size(uboot)>free(kernel_mtd) is not new at all
Mar 27 07:23:26 <DocScrutinizer> I'm not sure you even get a notice or warning when the "kernel" image you want to flash is >free_in_nand
Mar 27 07:23:47 <DocScrutinizer> probably not even without any bad blocks
Mar 27 07:24:17 <DocScrutinizer> i.e. when your kernel img is larger than _nominal_ size of kernel partition
Mar 27 07:24:54 <DocScrutinizer> probably kernel gets simply truncated at end
Mar 27 07:25:12 <DocScrutinizer> up to you too figure the results
Mar 27 07:25:23 <DocScrutinizer> s/too/to/
Mar 27 07:25:25 <infobot> DocScrutinizer meant: up to you to figure the results
Mar 27 07:29:17 <DocScrutinizer> on the bright side: initrd partition is unused and directly follows kernel partition. So we _could_ ignore partition size resp repartition for larger kernel and smaller initrd partition
Mar 27 07:29:58 <DocScrutinizer> alas partitions are hardcoded to flasher afaik
Mar 27 07:31:02 <DocScrutinizer> and to NOLO, and to uBoot, and to kernel - I guess
Mar 27 07:41:04 <Sicelo> btw / is on which /dev node?
Mar 27 08:01:26 <merlin1991> Sicelo: ubi0:rootfs
Mar 27 08:03:33 <Sicelo> thanks merlin1991 :)
Mar 27 08:07:33 <Macer> wow
Mar 27 08:07:51 <Macer> with no widgets my damn n900 is lasting like 4x longer on a charge
Mar 27 08:07:52 <Macer> wth?
Mar 27 08:08:18 <joga> are you surprised?
Mar 27 08:08:20 <Macer> i figured widgets would stop running once the screen was turned off
Mar 27 08:08:31 <MohammadAG> Obviously if a widget is polling for data or using a lot of CPU then it'll use up battery
Mar 27 08:08:32 <joga> but they gotta deliver you the news and so on
Mar 27 08:08:33 <Macer> sort of yes
Mar 27 08:08:40 <MohammadAG> Depends how the widget is coded
Mar 27 08:08:44 <joga> (and some widgets are plain crap)
Mar 27 08:08:50 <MohammadAG> Maemo doesnt suspend anything as an OS
Mar 27 08:08:54 <joga> there was some egg timer thingy that hogged 100% cpu and was crap anyway
Mar 27 08:08:58 <Macer> that sucks
Mar 27 08:09:00 <MohammadAG> That's android
Mar 27 08:09:05 <joga> oh
Mar 27 08:09:15 <Macer> can the widgets bemade to stop polling data when the screen is off?
Mar 27 08:09:29 <joga> configure them to poll every hour instead of every 15min
Mar 27 08:09:37 <MohammadAG> Obviously they shouldn't be polling dat
Mar 27 08:09:38 <MohammadAG> A
Mar 27 08:09:39 <Macer> 1/4th the life is a little out there :)
Mar 27 08:09:50 <Macer> heh
Mar 27 08:10:05 <MohammadAG> This is why iOS suspends apps in the background
Mar 27 08:10:13 <Macer> lol
Mar 27 08:10:19 <Macer> fair enough
Mar 27 08:10:24 <MohammadAG> And doesn't have widgets
Mar 27 08:10:37 <Macer> maybe something cssu can fix... suspending widgets during sleep
Mar 27 08:10:40 <Macer> :)
Mar 27 08:10:45 <MohammadAG> Not really
Mar 27 08:10:50 <Macer> damn
Mar 27 08:10:52 <Macer> ah well
Mar 27 08:10:54 <MohammadAG> Ask devs to fix their widgets
Mar 27 08:10:59 <script> I fixed the USB of my N900 thanks to awesome documentation :) just in case anyone is interested: http://dmidv.de/articles/11/thanks-for-the-fuse-nokia-or-how-to-fix-your-n900
Mar 27 08:11:00 <Macer> lol
Mar 27 08:11:05 <MohammadAG> Fixing it at a higher level would be dumb
Mar 27 08:11:32 <Macer> a power down api?
Mar 27 08:11:36 <Macer> :)
Mar 27 08:11:41 <loz`> hello again
Mar 27 08:12:24 <loz`> while installing cssu, i had problems with proxy and canceled console installation
Mar 27 08:12:41 <Macer> uh oh... did the n900 explode?
Mar 27 08:12:43 <Macer> :)
Mar 27 08:13:46 <loz`> and now i'm trying to reinstall CSSU, but menu item doesnt' appear again =\
Mar 27 08:16:03 <loz`> Macer: any way to run installation again?
Mar 27 08:16:08 <MohammadAG> sudo install-community-ssu loz` 
Mar 27 08:17:27 <MohammadAG> If it says it's already installed
Mar 27 08:17:36 <loz`> hm
Mar 27 08:17:47 <MohammadAG> dpkg -r mp-fremantle-community-pr
Mar 27 08:17:47 <loz`> as root, says command not fount
Mar 27 08:17:50 <loz`> *found
Mar 27 08:18:08 * Sicelo is kinda tired of this u-boot issue.. booting Debian for now.. 
Mar 27 08:19:05 <loz`> MohammadAG: says it removed, should i try again from beginning?
Mar 27 08:19:09 <MohammadAG> dpkg -r mp-fremantle-community-pr; apt-get --reinstall install community-ssu-enabler
Mar 27 08:19:16 <MohammadAG> Run that as root
Mar 27 08:19:20 <loz`> ok
Mar 27 08:21:47 <loz`> just to clarify situation - does gui network proxy settings affect console apps?
Mar 27 08:24:07 <StyXman> loz`: most probably no, but check the envvars
Mar 27 08:24:28 <StyXman> there must be a http_proxy envvar defined
Mar 27 08:24:35 <StyXman> most CLI apps take the froxy from there
Mar 27 08:24:54 <loz`> ok, but menu icon runs terminal installation
Mar 27 08:25:11 <loz`> so there should i define env proxy vars?
Mar 27 08:25:16 <loz`> *where
Mar 27 08:26:58 <StyXman> loz`: if you want to define them system wide...
Mar 27 08:27:13 <MohammadAG> Read https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11915
Mar 27 08:27:14 <povbot> 04Bug 11915: Community SSU script doesn't work if you are behind a proxy
Mar 27 08:27:29 <loz`> >_<
Mar 27 08:27:43 <MohammadAG> It has a solution
Mar 27 08:28:35 <loz`> ok, i see
Mar 27 08:28:37 <MohammadAG> If you can type the server again I'd suggest using the method in the first post rather than the one using gcobf
Mar 27 08:28:39 <MohammadAG> Gconf
Mar 27 08:29:20 <loz`> well, i already exported vars, so
Mar 27 08:32:17 <MohammadAG> Wonder if we should patch busybox to these vars from gconf
Mar 27 08:38:08 <loz`> ok, looks like downloading working
Mar 27 08:38:16 <loz`> thanks everybody :)
Mar 27 08:40:27 <teotwaki> sup maemo
Mar 27 08:57:04 <MohammadAG> loz`: You're welcome :)
Mar 27 08:58:13 <ErwinJunge> I've got a weird application install/upgrade issue. It's complaining about not having enough memory, while I'm pretty sure there should be plenty. rootfs has 63.7MB and opt has 514MB free space. I searched tmo but didn't find any solutions. Any ideas?
Mar 27 09:01:01 <DocScrutinizer51> there's a silly equation in HAM do determine what's 'enough free space', sth along soizeof(/home)/8
Mar 27 09:01:17 <DocScrutinizer51> ErwinJunge: see latest CSSU changelogs
Mar 27 09:01:39 <StyXman> DocScrutinizer51: would fam be a workaround?
Mar 27 09:01:58 <DocScrutinizer51> fam is deprecated in my book
Mar 27 09:02:24 <StyXman> aha? any particular reason?
Mar 27 09:02:28 <DocScrutinizer51> but probably yes, it shouldn't have same silly test
Mar 27 09:03:11 <DocScrutinizer51> yes, it's missing a lot of special tings HAM does. Not all of those are as silly as this test
Mar 27 09:03:41 <DocScrutinizer51> afk, bbl
Mar 27 09:06:27 <ErwinJunge> DocScrutinizer51: What am I looking for in the changelogs?
Mar 27 09:39:30 <psycho_oreos> DocScrutinizer51, ping
Mar 27 10:45:34 <DocScrutinizer51> pong
Mar 27 10:47:41 <DocScrutinizer51> ErwinJunge: sorry cant check right now, mobile ;)
Mar 27 10:48:27 <ErwinJunge> DocScrutinizer51: No problem, have had this issue for about 2 weeks now and didn't bother to look further until now, so not really in a hurry :)
Mar 27 10:49:13 <psycho_oreos> DocScrutinizer51, hmm, would you happen to know if lets say you set n9 to openmode (this is with pr1.1 specifically). Are you able to restore backups that you made prior to installing openmode?
Mar 27 10:49:43 <DocScrutinizer51> sorry
Mar 27 10:50:13 <psycho_oreos> I guess no, ah well thanks anyway :)
Mar 27 10:50:16 <DocScrutinizer51>  i suggest /join #harmattan
Mar 27 10:50:29 <psycho_oreos> yeah I'm there, gonna ask them I suppose
Mar 27 10:51:30 <DocScrutinizer51> afaik the backup format changed
Mar 27 10:52:14 <DocScrutinizer51> seem to recall a note of this in nokia pr12 changelog
Mar 27 10:52:17 <psycho_oreos> yeah I would imagine nokia wouldn't let certain things stay the same way if and when such things that bypasses security/DRM has been pulicised
Mar 27 10:52:39 <psycho_oreos> ahh so in other words pr1.1 shouldn't be affected I suppose
Mar 27 11:05:41 <DocScrutinizer51> psycho_oreos: maybe was PR1.1 changelog
Mar 27 11:06:13 <psycho_oreos> DocScrutinizer51, if that were the case you're now scaring a potential pr1.1 openmode user away :D
Mar 27 11:06:25 <DocScrutinizer51> anyway changelog is the palce you wanna visit
Mar 27 11:06:52 <psycho_oreos> though it may not affect me severely but I'd be happy if I could simply restore and go from there rather than starting from ground up
Mar 27 11:06:56 * psycho_oreos nods
Mar 27 11:07:16 <psycho_oreos> yeah I'll have to look into that, lemme guess its on your site? where you hosted that openmode kernel?
Mar 27 11:07:42 <DocScrutinizer51> prolly not
Mar 27 11:07:56 <DocScrutinizer51> at official nokia download site
Mar 27 11:07:57 <ruskie> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/03/27/apple_nokia_sim/
Mar 27 11:08:56 <DocScrutinizer51> I guess you could find it *inside* OCF images as well ;)
Mar 27 11:09:34 <DocScrutinizer51> if you know how to find *anything* in there
Mar 27 11:09:40 <psycho_oreos> hmm nokia download site, gonna have to dig it up
Mar 27 11:09:49 <psycho_oreos> yeah, I　can imagine its a mess as usual lol
Mar 27 11:10:03 <psycho_oreos> obfusication is their goal, nothing new :D
Mar 27 11:10:09 <DocScrutinizer51> compressed rootfs img
Mar 27 11:10:27 <DocScrutinizer51> not meant to search for files there
Mar 27 11:11:15 <DocScrutinizer51> anyway OT here
Mar 27 11:12:41 <DocScrutinizer51> see /topic in #harmattan
Mar 27 11:13:25 <DocScrutinizer51> has link where changelog will bite you
Mar 27 11:16:37 <DocScrutinizer51> lunch break over, bbl
Mar 27 11:21:47 <psycho_oreos> thanks for the info DocScrutinizer51 :D
Mar 27 14:42:54 <pa> hi
Mar 27 14:45:58 <pa> how did people use to compile  apps using mce-dev?
Mar 27 14:47:21 <merlin1991> why do you need mce?
Mar 27 14:47:33 <pa> i want to write a toggle for the wlan
Mar 27 14:47:51 <Sicelo> Pali: ping
Mar 27 14:48:03 <pa> i've been told i can do that with mce
Mar 27 14:48:18 <merlin1991> usually you would compile in scratchbox
Mar 27 14:48:24 <Pali> Sicelo: ping
Mar 27 14:48:27 <Pali> pong
Mar 27 14:48:49 <pa> ah i see, so i cant do that in qtcreator, right?
Mar 27 14:48:49 <Sicelo> i seem to have made a mess of uboot :/
Mar 27 14:49:01 <Sicelo> i can't boot into maemo
Mar 27 14:49:09 <pa> then i'll try to set it up
Mar 27 14:49:10 <merlin1991> well you can if you find the right packages to fill in to madde
Mar 27 14:49:21 <merlin1991> though setting up scratchbox is probably easier
Mar 27 14:49:30 <pa> does it work on windows?
Mar 27 14:49:38 <Pali> Sicelo, do you flashed combined image?
Mar 27 14:49:40 <merlin1991> no :/
Mar 27 14:49:54 <pa> ok, thanks :)
Mar 27 14:50:11 <pa> so, also for mce api, i can find those headers only inside the scratchbox, right?
Mar 27 14:50:20 <merlin1991> yes
Mar 27 14:50:25 <pa> and i assume they are not documented anywhere
Mar 27 14:50:34 <merlin1991> maybe on wiki.maemo.org
Mar 27 14:50:43 <Sicelo> Pali: i had bootmenu.. then installed uboot, and the images supplied. stock kernel would boot fine, and kp49 wouldnt. no even stock doesn't wrok
Mar 27 14:50:43 <pa> ah thanks , i can check
Mar 27 14:51:35 <Sicelo> i don't mind a reflash, if absolutely needed, but i doubt so :/
Mar 27 14:52:03 <Pali> Sicelo, you need to reflash only kernel image, if you something broke...
Mar 27 14:52:16 <Pali> but I think you should boot stock kernel without problem
Mar 27 14:52:19 <Pali> (Nolo Boot)
Mar 27 14:52:50 <Pali> stock kernel image is attached to u-boot binary, so booting should work
Mar 27 14:53:36 <Sicelo> i'll retry at home... for now it just shows Booting kernel.. and shuts down in a few minutes
Mar 27 16:47:10 <Sicelo> with this command, no luck yet, flasher-3.5 -F RX-51_2009SE_20\[1\].2010.36-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin --flash-only=kernel -f
Mar 27 16:52:02 <Sicelo> looks like i'll end up having to perform a real flash
Mar 27 16:53:04 <Sicelo> just stays on white NOKIA screen .. then shuts down after a while
Mar 27 16:57:44 <Sicelo> beautiful.. http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1181681&postcount=2 .. i bricked it :(
Mar 27 16:59:25 * Sicelo boots into debian to charge device for a while and copy important stuff out of it first
Mar 27 17:11:36 <Sicelo> NIN101: ping
Mar 27 17:11:48 <NIN101> Sicelo: pong
Mar 27 17:12:49 <Sicelo> quick question.. resueOS has option to enable usb networking. how is one to use it, as there'res no ssh server supplied?
Mar 27 17:13:07 <Sicelo> sorry for spelling =(
Mar 27 17:13:30 <NIN101> telnetd
Mar 27 17:13:54 <Sicelo> ah :)
Mar 27 17:14:40 <Sicelo> i think i'll do my 'rescue' work in debian though.. just need my  configs in /etc mostly
Mar 27 17:15:34 <Sicelo> i suppose i fscked up somewhere with u-boot :/
Mar 27 17:17:06 <NIN101> :-)
Mar 27 17:18:41 <Sicelo> yeah. seems flasher is safest way to play with kernels after all :/
Mar 27 17:20:19 <NIN101> yep.
Mar 27 17:20:29 <DocScrutinizer> Sicelo: bootmenu is absolutely unrelated, I'd say
Mar 27 17:21:03 <DocScrutinizer> as that happens after booting into rootfs of maemo
Mar 27 17:21:06 <Sicelo> and, yes, great s/w is RescueOS tanks :)
Mar 27 17:26:26 <Sicelo> DocScrutinizer: i must say i don't fully understand how the 'latest' version of u-boot works.. but aiui  this one is tied in with bootmenu, and is advertised as such 
Mar 27 17:27:12 <DocScrutinizer> uboot is a chainloaded bootloader much like uBoot, or grub
Mar 27 17:27:28 <DocScrutinizer> s/uBoot/NOLO/
Mar 27 17:27:28 <infobot> DocScrutinizer meant: uboot is a chainloaded bootloader much like NOLO, or grub
Mar 27 17:28:05 <DocScrutinizer> bootmenu for all I know is a set of scripts executed during sysinit
Mar 27 17:28:53 <DocScrutinizer> yup, fanoush's bootmenu
Mar 27 17:29:02 <Sicelo> yes. and i've been using bootmenu all along, with backupmenu mostly. 
Mar 27 17:29:05 <DocScrutinizer> my memory was right
Mar 27 17:29:29 <DocScrutinizer> so again, uBoot and bootmenu are different universe
Mar 27 17:30:02 <Sicelo> latest u-boot seems to make them neighbors though
Mar 27 17:30:10 <DocScrutinizer> one is loading and starting the kernel, the other is executed by kernel
Mar 27 17:30:22 <DocScrutinizer> harly
Mar 27 17:30:28 <DocScrutinizer> hardly
Mar 27 17:31:10 <DocScrutinizer> I guess you're mixing up things
Mar 27 17:34:42 <Sicelo> i know you rightly don't click random links.. but check out this one -- http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=81613
Mar 27 18:20:01 <szop|afk> StyXman: fapman will be a workaround, it downloads to opt, ham uses rootfs, so if package installed size >= 0.5rootfs free space is a no go
Mar 27 18:21:11 <StyXman> heeh
Mar 27 18:21:28 <szop|afk> fapman checks claimed size vs free rootfs
Mar 27 18:21:29 <szop|afk> sorry, ham claimed size + dl has to be < free rootfs
Mar 27 18:21:29 <szop|afk> at least it seems so
Mar 27 18:23:10 <szop|afk> would be nice addition to fap/ham to count optified files, though no idea how to achieve that before download
Mar 27 18:24:28 <szop|afk> then even claimed size is usually lot slower if no optification took place thanks to compressiononthego on root
Mar 27 18:24:34 <szop|afk> lower*
Mar 27 18:26:10 <szop|afk> slower too i guess
Mar 27 18:44:40 <szop|afk> anyone used instinctiv to id song successfully?
Mar 27 18:56:43 <szop|afk> I'll take that as a no
Mar 27 19:58:44 <ErwinJunge> DocScrutinizer51: If you're still here: what did you want me to look at in the cssu changelogs? (regarding the application memory full but really not full problem I have)
Mar 27 20:13:02 <Echtor2oo3> hello, where can i find "udef.h"? any idea? 
Mar 27 20:22:25 <andre__> Echtor2oo3, providing more context would be highly welcome.
Mar 27 20:23:27 <Echtor2oo3> i try to compile wolf:ET on meamo... the compiler says "udef.h no such file.." 
Mar 27 20:23:32 <andre__> on my desktop computer it is located under /usr/src/debug/libcdio-0.82/include/cdio/udf.h
Mar 27 20:23:48 <Echtor2oo3> udef.h =)
Mar 27 20:23:53 <andre__> argh
Mar 27 20:24:06 <andre__> so much for my reading skills tonight :)
Mar 27 20:24:20 <Echtor2oo3> google cant help... just some bsd links :/
Mar 27 20:24:27 <DocScrutinizer> ErwinJunge: ask merlin1991 or freemangordon or Pali 
Mar 27 20:24:29 <DocScrutinizer> :-D
Mar 27 20:24:50 <DocScrutinizer> I think 2 of the 3 were discussing the issue
Mar 27 20:26:33 <Pali> I never heard about udef.h...
Mar 27 20:27:53 <ErwinJunge> Ok, let's start with Pali: I have a weird issue where HAM says that I don't have enough memory, but I have 66MB rootfs and 500+MB opt left. Any ideas?
Mar 27 20:29:28 <Echtor2oo3> argh... error: .../../etmain/ui/men\nudef.h not found xD damn
Mar 27 20:29:33 <ErwinJunge> Echtor2oo3: wolf:ET? Is that even remotely a possibility performancewise?
Mar 27 20:30:27 <Echtor2oo3> ErwinJunge: its just a test, quake3 works on the n900... why not ET?
Mar 27 20:31:07 <Echtor2oo3> i read about 30-60 frames on q3 :P
Mar 27 20:31:21 <ErwinJunge> I tried to get a Quake1 derivative (DarkPlaces) working a long time ago, couldn't get it above 7fps :) But admittedly it was a bit half-assed. I guess that if you actually know what you're doing you could get it to work.
Mar 27 20:32:17 <Echtor2oo3> ErwinJunge: google, there lots of topics about quake3 on the n900
Mar 27 20:33:20 <ErwinJunge> Does wolf:ET use the q3 engine?
Mar 27 20:34:09 <Pali> bug in HAM
Mar 27 20:34:19 <Pali> you need to have 8% free space in /home
Mar 27 20:34:37 <Pali> else HAM show that stupid message
Mar 27 20:34:43 <Echtor2oo3> ErwinJunge: yes... thats why i rty it
Mar 27 20:35:49 <ErwinJunge> Pali: That is extremely funny and a very simple solution (assuming it works, I'll try in a bit). Is this something that can be fixed in the CSSU?
Mar 27 20:36:37 <Echtor2oo3> i know it works... but i cant code something myself... i hope it works with compilig the source >_>
Mar 27 20:37:15 <ErwinJunge> Seems to be the likely cause, I'm at 93% usage. Stupid bug though, with my 8G /home this already starts to happen at over 500MB free space :(
Mar 27 20:38:11 <ErwinJunge> Echtor2oo3: Good luck, I hope it works better than my quick try with DarkPlaces did :) Getting something to work at all is always fun though.
Mar 27 20:45:11 <ErwinJunge> Pali: Thanks, it works again now :)
Mar 27 20:53:46 <Echtor2oo3> ErwinJunge: i fix the error, wolfET is still compiling :D
Mar 27 22:01:21 <Macer> well.. i sure am glad with those widgets gone the n900 lasts as long as it does now
Mar 27 22:01:32 <Macer> it felt kind of wrong having it die every 12 hours or so lol
Mar 27 22:53:59 <BCMM> is there a way to change the X11 gamma setting on the n900?
Mar 27 22:54:32 <BCMM> i've tried with xrandr (using X11 forwarding since the binary appears to not be packaged) and it does nothing with no error
Mar 27 23:25:12 <Macer> wtf is battery patch?
Mar 27 23:32:40 <Macer> lol
Mar 27 23:32:43 <Macer> debtest
Mar 27 23:32:47 <Macer> 2 and 3
Mar 27 23:32:56 <Macer> poor maemo repos
Mar 27 23:33:01 <Macer> it is a breakdown
Mar 28 02:44:49 <John_> hi, im new to maemo, is there anybody working with QT?
Mar 28 02:44:55 <Guest87686> for maemo program?
Mar 28 02:46:19 <holmesii> Hi I am new to meamo and QT, I installed QT set in windows system and trying to make a program for maemo device. I want to do some program with libpcap. But i don't know how to start.
Mar 28 02:50:36 <ShiftPlusOne> Hello, where can I find the source for sdl-gles to steal?
Mar 28 02:51:54 <holmesii> nobody will answer you
Mar 28 02:52:15 <ShiftPlusOne> well... not instantly.
Mar 28 02:54:00 <ShiftPlusOne> think I found it anyway http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/source/s/sdlgles/sdlgles_1.0.0.tar.gz
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