**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Mar 30 02:59:58 2012 Mar 30 03:56:25 hi, how to copy a whole conversation of a contact? Mar 30 04:50:42 My N900 used 3G connect,i want use internet PC ssh login My N900,how to do that? sorry my bad english, Mar 30 05:07:50 tech.it168.com/a2009/0907/675/000000675217_1.shtml 大伙给看看,关于让外网访问手机,怎么才能建一个这样网关 Mar 30 05:21:58 So, btctl is not working.. Is this just me or is something broken ? Mar 30 05:22:30 should I install a newer version of kernel-power ? Mar 30 06:03:04 happymonkey: what's wrong with your screen? odds are it's not the LCD at all when screen fails. Often it's the flex cable Mar 30 06:07:08 happymonkey: use AV-cable and TV to check at least digitizer Mar 30 06:11:14 happymonkey: what closed parts in kernel? not on maemo, really. And for digitizer prices: I've seen them for 25 bucks as well Mar 30 06:11:57 Digitizers? Mar 30 06:23:31 LaoLang_cool: /home/user/.rtcomm-eventlogger/el-v1.db (sqlite database) Mar 30 06:28:31 codename? Mar 30 06:30:51 for those who are still there and also interested in digitizers: the transparent thing in front of the LCD (that usually takes the scratches over time) is either "a digitizer" or "a touchpanel", which are equivalent terms Mar 30 06:31:41 http://www.lingosbox.com/original-brand-new-nokia-n900-digitizer-touch-screen-replacement.html Mar 30 06:32:29 "touch scren" is not exactly precise here, usually you call the LCD+digitizer combo a touchscreen Mar 30 06:33:30 or even s/LCD/display/ Mar 30 10:05:41 So It seems that the Kernel-Power dose not have Network Bridgeing enabled Mar 30 10:05:48 brctl: SIOCGIFBR: Package not installed Mar 30 10:06:23 Is this a problem with my system OR is this true on all Maemo N900's ? Mar 30 10:07:14 The Error is missleading. There is no "Package" bridge-utils is installed with Busybox-Power Mar 30 10:07:32 I need the Kernel to be recopiled with Network Bridging Mar 30 18:17:21 second hand n900 arrived \o/ Mar 30 18:18:49 nice Mar 30 18:18:54 the previous owner didn't quite wipe it Mar 30 18:19:16 some nice photos? :p Mar 30 18:19:20 pr0n? Mar 30 18:19:36 damn my n900 is stucked in boot loop suddenly.. Mar 30 18:19:54 I might have updated power kernel, not sure Mar 30 18:20:13 what did you do? oO Mar 30 18:20:26 don't know.. Mar 30 18:20:55 suddenly happened when rebooted, worked fine yesterday Mar 30 18:21:59 interesting mix of apps; BlessN900, Como Llego, Docs To Go, DOSBox, EvilAlarm, FaceBrick, Fahrplan, fAPN, ForecaWeather, gpodder, Hermes. MaeGirls, Mappero, Marhythm, Mediabox, Mirage, Mirror, OpenTTD, Opera, Quiver, SleepPy, WifiEye, Angry Birds, Bus Catcher, Deinstall kernel, Earth, firefox, geeps, gweled, mobile hotspot, Moviefinder, N900Ftp, Nitdroid installer, omweather, Shariks, tuxrace, Zouba, cutetube, @scene Mar 30 18:23:03 No pics other than what's pulled in by gpodder, no music, no videos Mar 30 18:23:40 ShadowJK: ??? Mar 30 18:23:42 fuck.. Mar 30 18:24:12 Vib3: either you messed up Ur kernel, or filled up your rootfs 100% Mar 30 18:24:28 nothign a flash can't fix ;) Mar 30 18:24:38 indeed Mar 30 18:24:44 s/nothign/nothing/ Mar 30 18:24:45 merlin1991 meant: nothing a flash can't fix ;) Mar 30 18:24:55 actually nothing a rescue system couldn't fix Mar 30 18:25:05 that aswell :) Mar 30 18:25:25 DocScrutinizer; just trying to profile the previous owner based on his app selection :) Mar 30 18:25:51 didn't got it backupped yet.. Mar 30 18:27:52 hmm trying to flash it then Mar 30 18:34:30 ShadowJK: looks more like previous owner was installing everything out there, for an Android feel..`many apps` Mar 30 18:35:12 ShadowJK: HAH Mar 30 18:35:31 you also got yourself a spareparts kit? ;-D Mar 30 18:36:08 Vib3: don't flash eMMC Mar 30 18:36:25 just rootfs aka COMBINED Mar 30 18:36:37 odds are you're mot losing anything Mar 30 18:36:43 not* Mar 30 18:39:28 k, so using -R then Mar 30 18:39:31 Screen is surprisingly good for not having protector Mar 30 18:40:48 my sparecrap's LCD is damaged beyonf repair Mar 30 18:40:52 :-/ Mar 30 18:41:01 checkered cow Mar 30 18:41:07 ow Mar 30 18:41:13 lots of bright spots Mar 30 18:41:23 blacksmith syndrome Mar 30 18:42:59 * DocScrutinizer just wonders what's causing these bright blotches Mar 30 18:43:15 loghtspreader damaged? Mar 30 18:43:22 light* even Mar 30 18:43:35 pressure :p Mar 30 18:43:56 or electrode structure on glass damaged? Mar 30 18:43:59 you have pressed screen too hard Mar 30 18:44:06 dunno Mar 30 18:44:06 yes, pressure Mar 30 18:44:15 blacksmith syndrome Mar 30 18:44:33 or call it Schwarzenegger syndrome Mar 30 18:45:23 but what's damaged? Mar 30 18:46:31 also this friggin spareparts coffin charging battery since >2 days now Mar 30 18:46:43 of course it's "green" Mar 30 18:46:58 but it never stopped drawing current from USB Mar 30 18:47:13 constantly ~1ßßmA Mar 30 18:47:18 100 Mar 30 18:47:35 maybe 80 Mar 30 18:47:45 oh no beta beta mili amps that sounds dangerous Mar 30 18:47:54 sorry to hear Mar 30 18:49:27 DocScrutinizer; with normal kernel, minimum power use with charger attached is about 80mA Mar 30 18:49:44 sorry for being a douche Mar 30 18:50:39 So battery is probably floating at slightly below 4.2V 0mA, and the power is going to musb Mar 30 18:51:18 DocScrutinizer: on the device of mine that used to have those bright spots (before the lcd completely tore apart), I seemed to notice that the bright areas seemed to coincide with the areas of the battery/motherboard/whatever that tended to get hottest, not sure if that means anything Mar 30 18:52:42 ShadowJK: hell, why don't I see this crap on my daily with stock kernel? Mar 30 18:52:50 so perhaps it's caused by thermal expansion? Mar 30 18:53:07 ^^^ @ ShadowJK Mar 30 18:54:05 villager: nah, this appears on definitely cold device. Thanks for mentioning it though, might be another cause of similar effects Mar 30 18:55:23 I suspect some misalignment between pixels in LCD and color filter Mar 30 18:55:36 DocScrutinizer: well, I mean that the damage is caused by heat, not the effect itself... the spots themselves would then just be a symptom of irrepairable damage Mar 30 18:56:07 DocScrutinizer: but perhaps you're talking about a different kind of bright spots? Mar 30 18:56:40 nope, I'm sure we'Re talking about same symptom Mar 30 18:57:42 like you covered whole screen with a slightly greyish varnish, and polished that away on some spots with a cloth Mar 30 18:58:12 rather cloudy appearance Mar 30 18:58:30 diameters of 10..15mm Mar 30 18:58:33 maybe 20 Mar 30 18:58:49 no sharp edges Mar 30 18:59:04 actually you can't tell where it starts Mar 30 18:59:22 but you know where's the center Mar 30 18:59:38 of each blurb Mar 30 18:59:58 DocScrutinizer: like, say, this one? http://smartestmobile.com/Nokia_n900_Two_Bright_Spots.jpg Mar 30 19:00:05 my daily got one minor such one Mar 30 19:00:24 yes, exactly Mar 30 19:00:35 this crap got ~9 of those Mar 30 19:00:37 maybe 12 Mar 30 19:00:55 and bigger than those on photo Mar 30 19:02:47 the one on my daily definitely not caused by heat, but prolly by an "accident" (me kicking some obstacle with holster with N900 inside) Mar 30 19:03:27 okay... I only had 2 or 3, I think... then I guess some additional stress (from dropping the device on the floor) finally caused the lcd layer to rip apart... Mar 30 19:03:43 :-/ Mar 30 19:04:16 could be spacers inside LCD that get damaged Mar 30 19:04:54 iirc those LCD have spacer plastic balls or sth like that - transparent plastic Mar 30 19:05:31 prolly too small to see them behind the color filter Mar 30 19:05:55 but definitely will change optics when flattened Mar 30 19:06:09 good thing I have a spare n900, but I should think of repairing that one someday Mar 30 19:06:35 LC film gets thinner, area with no LC at all gets larger perdentage of total area Mar 30 19:06:56 s/perd/perc/ Mar 30 19:06:57 DocScrutinizer meant: LC film gets thinner, area with no LC at all gets larger percentage of total area Mar 30 19:07:19 both effects could result in bright spot Mar 30 19:09:55 hmm Mar 30 19:17:41 what's the mass storage sh again? Mar 30 19:19:01 ?? Mar 30 19:19:30 osso-usb-mass-storag-enable.sh Mar 30 19:20:05 hm I got no connectivity and no kernel modules on device, wat do? Mar 30 19:20:38 flashing nokia kernel would be an option I guess :/ Mar 30 19:21:47 * merlin1991 headdesks Mar 30 19:25:09 stufu flasher Mar 30 19:26:31 how's the x86 compatability package called again? Mar 30 19:30:34 ia32-libs in case anybody wonders Mar 30 20:08:43 DocScrutinizer, I thought you didn't use stock kernel Mar 30 20:09:29 Linux IroN900 2.6.28-omap1 #1 PREEMPT Fri Aug 6 11:50:00 EEST 2010 armv7l unknown Mar 30 20:09:39 iirc it was one of Nokia's modifications to PR1.2 or PR1.3 that caused it, it was removed in pk during the hostmode stuff. Mar 30 20:09:54 yup Mar 30 20:10:18 aaah well, maybe I never checked what my IroN900 is doing Mar 30 20:10:38 Linux t900 2.6.28.10power46 #1 PREEMPT Sun Dec 12 03:11:24 EET 2010 armv7l unknown Mar 30 20:11:09 this one behaves, but has KP Mar 30 20:11:23 pk Mar 30 20:11:56 * ShadowJK has stock kernel, but using charge script with charge-termination threshold set 100mA higher to account for the extra drain Mar 30 20:14:59 MEH, t900 acts up. next to inaudible system tones, no way to close thumbnails in taskswitcher screen Mar 30 20:15:24 touchscreen cal? Mar 30 20:15:42 can system tones be boosted in Settings - Profile ? Mar 30 20:17:41 nope, just set to 0,1, 2 Mar 30 20:17:49 mediaplayer works Mar 30 20:18:03 ts-click not Mar 30 20:18:17 kbd-click not Mar 30 20:18:53 charger-plugged "swoosh" works Mar 30 20:19:01 :-/ Mar 30 20:19:19 t900:~# uptime Mar 30 20:19:21 22:23:52 up 112 days, 13:16, load average: 0.21, 0.30, 0.13 Mar 30 20:20:47 hmm Mar 30 20:20:54 t900:~# free Mar 30 20:20:55 total used free shared buffers Mar 30 20:20:57 Mem: 245404 211572 33832 0 1464 Mar 30 20:20:58 Swap: 786424 85240 701184 Mar 30 20:26:53 hmm, killed PA and mafw(wrapper) Mar 30 20:26:57 no change Mar 30 20:27:32 Which figure would you want to change? Mar 30 20:27:58 the low sound :-) Mar 30 20:28:26 kill mce? Mar 30 20:29:05 microscope on the speaker grille? :-) Mar 30 20:29:32 hmm Mar 30 20:30:12 * DocScrutinizer glares at /usr/bin/maemo-xinput-sounds Mar 30 20:33:42 meh, no way to leave taskswitcher by clicking background Mar 30 20:33:53 ooh, after 10s it works Mar 30 20:34:18 I guess this thing needs a REBOOT ;-P Mar 30 20:35:16 actually atm it's the device with highest uptime here at home Mar 30 20:36:06 ShadowJK: so if you want to cat some /proc or /sys before I reboot... hurry! Mar 30 20:36:13 no Mar 30 20:36:17 :-) Mar 30 20:36:43 it probably fragmented swap pretty bad after 112 days :P Mar 30 20:37:14 hardly, with only 82M swap used at all Mar 30 20:37:20 85 Mar 30 20:37:22 whatever Mar 30 20:38:04 lemme try sth Mar 30 20:40:12 mhm, killing browserd freed up 11M of swap Mar 30 20:41:24 wow, even closing thimbnails works after 10s of trying Mar 30 20:42:01 9570 984 user 20 0 98M 8744 5992 S 0.0 3.6 1:18.45 /usr/bin/hildon-desktop Mar 30 20:42:09 98M shared mem Mar 30 20:44:02 HAH, killing it beats down swap to 57M Mar 30 20:44:36 Mem:239M used:135M buffers:9M cache:90M Mar 30 20:45:03 now swapoff && sleep 2 and swapon ;-D Mar 30 20:47:05 t900:~# swapoff -a; swapon -a Mar 30 20:47:07 t900:~# free Mar 30 20:47:08 total used free shared buffers Mar 30 20:47:10 Mem: 245404 212476 32928 0 9252 Mar 30 20:47:11 Swap: 786424 0 786424 Mar 30 20:47:13 Total: 1031828 212476 819352 Mar 30 20:48:42 of curse still no system sounds, but rather snappy desktop :-) Mar 30 20:48:58 it can fragment swap even with 10M used :P Mar 30 20:49:01 over time Mar 30 20:49:07 not now Mar 30 20:49:10 :-) Mar 30 20:49:16 Not if you rebooted Mar 30 20:49:37 even after swapoff; swapon ? Mar 30 20:50:19 that clears it up :P Mar 30 20:50:58 btw, about the swap used number, if some memory is swapped out, and then swapped back in again, it stays counted as swap used Mar 30 20:51:03 even if it's in ram Mar 30 20:51:13 :nod: Mar 30 20:51:36 anyway killing H-D was a good thing Mar 30 20:52:03 I should set up an alarmed job for it ;-P Mar 30 20:53:08 some yellow notifier popped up: "due to memory low condition, this task has temporarily been suspended" ;-) Mar 30 20:53:59 I guess during swapoff Mar 30 20:54:06 yes Mar 30 20:54:37 there's a thing that attempts to close apps before you run out of ram Mar 30 20:54:44 OOM Mar 30 20:54:49 or H-D itself Mar 30 20:54:54 No it's before oom Mar 30 20:55:30 I think I ran into it when investigating that X-PRELOAD thingie in .desktop Mar 30 20:55:35 kernel sends a signal when memory is getting low, maemo tries to act on that Mar 30 20:56:14 BWAHAHA it suddenly found 48 new mails Mar 30 20:57:26 hmmm :-( Mar 30 20:57:45 closing thumbnails still is "not working" Mar 30 21:00:29 let's see what's result of "start reboot" Mar 30 21:01:37 AHAAAA Mar 30 21:01:44 ts-click is back Mar 30 21:02:22 ts-vib is back as well Mar 30 21:02:56 should've tried "killall mce" Mar 30 21:03:17 * DocScrutinizer waves and heads out for dinner Mar 30 21:31:13 whoever made the boot-time date picker needs to be executed Mar 30 21:31:21 (in PR1.2 at least) Mar 30 21:33:55 That's probably the only use of clutter :) Mar 30 22:55:47 hmm? Mar 30 22:56:14 The GTK thing with hw accelerated graphics and smooth animation Mar 30 22:56:18 the firstboot-datepicker slotmachine is the worst I've ever seen, right Mar 30 22:56:25 everything else is "plain" gtk Mar 30 22:56:41 It doesn't have enough drag, yeah :P Mar 30 22:56:45 the selection doesn't stic Mar 30 22:56:46 k Mar 30 22:58:32 WTF was wrong with datepickers ala zenity --calendar Mar 30 22:59:41 I#m 20 times as fast with sth like this, compared to fuckin slotmachine nonsense Mar 30 23:00:13 and I'd EVEN KNOW THE DAY OF WEEK Mar 30 23:01:18 while with slotmachine, you'll most probably fail epically whe I ask you to meet for same 5 beer session in two weeks from now Mar 30 23:02:43 kill the GUI designers, with rusty knife Mar 30 23:03:26 or whoever was responsible for that Mar 30 23:04:59 hell, in MTF they did it right, at least for time (can't recall date), and then QTM rushed in and wrecked it once more Mar 30 23:05:28 * DocScrutinizer headdesks Mar 30 23:06:18 woeful fools Mar 30 23:09:45 datepicker in HARM settings is sooooo awesome Mar 30 23:10:20 and datepicker in HARM widget-gallery is such a crap Mar 30 23:19:40 and DA CAPO TROLLAPO for the date tumbler years being a wraparound from 2020 to 2000 Mar 30 23:20:10 haha oh dear... Mar 30 23:20:20 thus thing actually is a GREAT **slotmachine** Mar 30 23:21:48 prolly those addicts that burn 100s of EUR each day on the real slotmachines will adore this datepicker brainfuck design Mar 30 23:28:39 But it's touchscrene, it slides, there's kinetics! And it's vsynced!!! ~~~droool Mar 30 23:30:13 ugh, yeah it's awful Mar 30 23:38:12 I suggest to come up with a competing concept: shoot the asteroids that have the right digits, when they're at the right location Mar 30 23:38:38 ...to form the date Mar 30 23:39:24 beats slotmachine hands down, regarding drool factor Mar 30 23:41:32 actually the fistboot timepicker is the only good one I've ever seen on fremantle Mar 30 23:42:02 while datepicker at same location is one of the worst ever - only HARM competes to it Mar 30 23:43:06 and there only QTM date-tumbler, while MTF datepicker is really one of the best I've ever seen Mar 30 23:43:20 alas MTF is deprecated **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Mar 31 02:59:58 2012