**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Apr 21 03:00:00 2012 Apr 21 08:12:47 Hey all. Apr 21 08:14:52 I upgraded to power-kernel50 from a previous version, but it's caused some problems, and I'd like to revert. What's the best way to do this? I upgraded by doing a 'apt-get update' and then installing power-kernel from HAM Apr 21 08:16:25 narcos: you can downgrade to stock kernel, then upgrade to your chosen kernel Apr 21 08:16:50 Sicelo: Ahhh Apr 21 08:16:55 you can also just downgrade in one step using apt-get (if you're brave) :) Apr 21 08:17:04 heh Apr 21 08:17:05 I'm bravae Apr 21 08:17:09 *brave Apr 21 08:17:27 Rather - how tricky is the downgrade to stock process? Apr 21 08:17:52 then apt-get install .. you need 3 packages, kernel-power, kernel-power-modules, kernel-power-flasher Apr 21 08:19:12 The above 3 packages are already at the newest version Apr 21 08:20:26 * narcos finds http://wiki.maemo.org/Kernel_Power#Deinstallation Apr 21 08:22:53 apt-get install kernel-power=1:2.6.28-10power49 ..... Apr 21 08:23:09 btw, what problems does KP50 give you? Apr 21 08:23:23 Sicelo: Injection drivers for the wireless don't load Apr 21 08:23:46 iirc you need new modules or something like that.. check in TMO Apr 21 08:23:50 Sicelo: Is there a way to determine what power-kernel version I previously had? Apr 21 08:23:54 I think it was 40 Apr 21 08:24:04 But I'm not certain Apr 21 08:24:41 i don't think that's possilbe .. not absolutely sure though Apr 21 08:26:11 Hmm - lemme check the chan log, I think I may have mentioned it before Apr 21 08:26:51 repos have 50, 49, 42, 37, and 24 Apr 21 08:29:35 Guess I'll try 42 - it is a magic number and all Apr 21 08:30:01 So, apt-get install kernel-power=1:2.6.28-10power42 ? Apr 21 08:33:45 apt-get install kernel-power=2.6.28-maemo42 kernel-power-modules=2.6.28-maemo42 kernel-power-flasher=2.6.28-maemo42 Apr 21 08:35:02 ta Apr 21 08:35:16 * narcos holds thumbs Apr 21 08:35:39 Doh @ super slow GRPS connection on the phone Apr 21 08:40:59 Sicelo: Process finished - I just reboot now? Apr 21 08:53:18 Sicelo: Success :) Down to 42 Apr 21 08:53:25 * narcos tries packet injection drivers now Apr 21 08:57:39 Oi, a whole new set of errors Apr 21 08:57:49 * narcos will go find food and ponder Apr 21 08:58:00 Thanks for the help Sicelo ! Apr 21 09:05:28 narcos: are you certain KP doesn't have injection drivers by default? Just a thought, haven't checked. Apr 21 09:10:01 no, not by default.. Apr 21 09:10:52 i just think he didn't need to downgrade.. especially to 42 :/ Apr 21 09:21:20 I guess zeq was right Apr 21 09:24:46 AIUI just the generic instructions how to install and load injection drivers simply don't match kp50 which comes with them already? Apr 21 09:25:36 so following instructions how to install 42 drivers of course would result in "doesn't load drivers" Apr 21 09:33:17 * RST38h yawns, greets Doc Apr 21 10:06:03 * DocScrutinizer re-greets Apr 21 10:45:23 hm Apr 21 10:45:35 weird.. my sim seems to have started working again Apr 21 10:46:09 well... sim reader Apr 21 10:46:12 odd Apr 21 10:46:16 oh well lol Apr 21 10:46:34 it hasn't messed up all day Apr 21 10:47:26 i'm sure i have spoken too soon but still :) Apr 21 10:48:13 hi Apr 21 10:48:21 triend to send sms via script Apr 21 10:48:25 but says -> ImportError: No module named QtMobility.Messaging Apr 21 10:49:08 I installed just -> python-qtmobility.messaging and python-qtmobility12.messaging Apr 21 10:49:17 what packet is needed? :o Apr 21 11:05:40 found deps but now ssms.py segfaulting.. Apr 21 11:13:11 are you sure you're talking on right channel? sounds like you mix up fremantle and harmattan Apr 21 11:14:45 if you are using a N9 (or 950) then you should /join #harmattan. If N900 is your device, I dunno if the qt-mobility approach applies at a ll Apr 21 11:16:03 hi Doc, using n900 :) Apr 21 11:16:37 that is segfaulting -> http://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control#Send_SMS Apr 21 11:17:13 ooh, I've been wrong it seems: http://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control#Send_SMS Apr 21 11:17:22 yeah :-) Apr 21 11:18:01 :) Apr 21 11:18:06 Python 2.5.4 Apr 21 11:18:13 anyway I sugest the 2nd approach there ;-D Apr 21 11:18:57 ok, its shorter :p Apr 21 11:19:48 third one is probably most clean one, and in line with dbus-centric concept of fremantle Apr 21 11:20:46 while 2nd one will probably send SMS that don't even show up in messages history Apr 21 11:21:25 pnatd directly talks to modem, bypassing all fremantle framework that usually handles conversations Apr 21 11:28:27 ok Apr 21 11:29:10 sent sms to own number, did't see anything to appear with 2nd example Apr 21 11:30:02 had typo :p Apr 21 11:31:22 now need to learn python to set up params :F Apr 21 11:31:53 err Apr 21 11:32:13 to make that script more efficent Apr 21 11:32:32 I think the DBUS method of sending SMSs is the best way to go Apr 21 11:33:07 thats so long script :p Apr 21 11:33:43 import getopt, sys Apr 21 11:33:44 try: Apr 21 11:33:46 opts, args = getopt.getopt(sys.argv[1:],"hlt:", ["help","listen","time="]) Apr 21 11:34:03 number = args[0] Apr 21 11:34:04 msg = args[1] Apr 21 11:34:48 jonwil: ack Apr 21 11:34:51 and Hi! Apr 21 11:39:15 Apr 21 11:39:18 hmm says -> Apr 21 11:39:19 number = args[0] Apr 21 11:39:20 ^ Apr 21 11:39:20 SyntaxError: invalid syntax Apr 21 11:39:47 o.O Apr 21 11:40:16 should that "try:" be there? :p Apr 21 11:40:35 or was it just to me to try it Apr 21 11:40:40 you can't c&p the few lines above, they were just a quote what'S doing the argument parsing in the exampe #3 in phonecontrol Apr 21 11:41:38 the "try:" is a part of an exception catcher construct in python Apr 21 11:41:47 ok Apr 21 11:41:53 it needs "except:" for when "try:" fails Apr 21 11:42:21 that's why "number =" is a syntax error at lat position, at thet indentation level Apr 21 11:42:43 s/*/that/. Apr 21 11:43:43 hmm my n900 is so slowwwwww, uptime 17 days.. Apr 21 11:44:16 killall browserd Apr 21 11:44:22 even I have CSSU community Apr 21 11:45:13 thx, faster now :p Apr 21 11:45:34 import getopt, sys Apr 21 11:45:35 that should be added to CSSU Apr 21 11:45:36 try: Apr 21 11:45:37 opts, args = getopt.getopt(sys.argv[1:],"hlt:", ["help","listen","time="]) Apr 21 11:45:39 Apr 21 11:45:40 except getopt.GetoptError, err: Apr 21 11:45:42 # print help information and exit: Apr 21 11:45:43 print str(err) # will print something like "option -a not recognized" Apr 21 11:45:45 usage() Apr 21 11:45:46 sys.exit(2) Apr 21 11:45:48 sorry for spam Apr 21 11:46:01 don't learn from my nasty habit Apr 21 11:46:04 :-) Apr 21 11:46:29 yea, I was just about to use pastebin :p Apr 21 11:47:30 anyway that's a proper arg parser Apr 21 11:48:08 after that ' number = args[0] ' should work Apr 21 11:49:38 ok Apr 21 11:50:10 how do I use variables in perl? child.send('$msg') ? Apr 21 11:51:42 WAAAH perl Apr 21 11:52:42 yea, perl guy here :p Apr 21 11:52:59 never done python as you can see... :D:D: Apr 21 11:53:46 python is quite simple, all you have to know is it strictly uses indentation as a code structure element Apr 21 11:54:20 which makes it particularly unsuited for pasting code snippets to wiki Apr 21 11:54:35 or IRC ;-P Apr 21 11:55:41 well, there's another interesting aspect with python: you can tell from the line >> opts, args = getopt.getopt(... << Apr 21 11:55:44 yeap :p Apr 21 11:55:55 functions can return quite complex results Apr 21 11:56:23 but how do I use that 'msg' variable in that 'child.send' ? was that correct? Apr 21 11:56:41 nfc, that's perl :-) Apr 21 11:56:49 hmm without that '$' Apr 21 11:57:20 the question how to use python vars in perl is... err... Apr 21 11:57:39 no its python script :p Apr 21 11:57:53 editing that ssms.py script Apr 21 11:58:13 in python a var is a var Apr 21 11:58:23 fobar=2 Apr 21 11:58:32 fobar = fobar + 4 Apr 21 11:58:57 foofunc(fobar) Apr 21 11:59:30 ok so -> child.send(msg); Apr 21 11:59:42 looks ok'ish Apr 21 12:00:26 yea Apr 21 12:00:36 how about this? -> child.send('at+cmgs=number\r'); Apr 21 12:00:59 how to separate that number variable from string text :p Apr 21 12:01:00 that's sending a string const you defined in place Apr 21 12:02:14 err, sth along: arg = 'at+cmgs=' % number Apr 21 12:02:22 I bet this was wrong Apr 21 12:02:37 string operators are quite obscure for me in python Apr 21 12:03:41 maybe >> myarg = "at+cmgs=" Apr 21 12:04:02 myarg.concat(number.string) Apr 21 12:04:22 no clue really, as you can tell from this^^^ Apr 21 12:05:01 anyway in python basically everything is an object, with associated methods Apr 21 12:06:38 hmm Apr 21 12:06:43 didn't work -> number = 'at+cmgs=' % args[0] % '\r' Apr 21 12:07:06 n900 question. is there any way to schedule an action when internet connection (3G, wlan) becomes active? i know how to do it when phone connected via usb, i can add commands in pcsuite-enable and pcsuite-disable Apr 21 12:07:07 think it needs '\r' to end Apr 21 12:07:53 vdv: check ifup Apr 21 12:10:02 >>> print(str) Apr 21 12:10:03 DocScrutinizer, is this a shell script? Apr 21 12:10:04 ATtest= Apr 21 12:10:05 >>> str=str + "ABC" Apr 21 12:10:07 >>> print(str) Apr 21 12:10:08 ATtest=ABC Apr 21 12:10:54 vdv: I think this is a (shell) cmd that invokes additions stuff if existing Apr 21 12:11:20 just a starting point where to look Apr 21 12:11:26 maybe not even a good one Apr 21 12:12:48 >>> str=str + 5 Apr 21 12:12:49 Traceback (most recent call last): Apr 21 12:12:51 File "", line 1, in Apr 21 12:12:52 TypeError: cannot concatenate 'str' and 'int' objects Apr 21 12:14:17 DocScrutinizer, ok, thanks Apr 21 12:14:30 Doc: Are you teaching him Ruby? Apr 21 12:14:38 Doc: Are you teaching yourself Ruby Apr 21 12:14:45 Is it the end of the world? Apr 21 12:15:27 DocScrutinizer, ifup just activates a connection on given interface Apr 21 12:17:21 One day you mention you'll probably go to Android for your next device and the next your writing Ruby Apr 21 12:17:28 It's a dangerous gateway I tells ya Apr 21 12:17:55 RST38h: just playing a bit with python :-) Apr 21 12:18:17 >>> str=str+num.__str__() Apr 21 12:18:18 >>> print(str) Apr 21 12:18:20 ATtest=ABC5 Apr 21 12:18:37 num=5; obviously Apr 21 12:19:21 I bet a few python savvy coders just went vomiting Apr 21 12:21:09 my last python coding is like 12 years ago Apr 21 12:30:19 DocScrutinizer: by this string prints fine but doesn't work -> number = "at+cmgs=" + args[0] + "\r" Apr 21 12:30:53 err Apr 21 12:30:59 but doesn't show "\r" ofcourse, mayve child.send needs it Apr 21 12:31:04 * maybe Apr 21 12:31:05 * DocScrutinizer glares at "\r" Apr 21 12:32:09 hmm, no. should work Apr 21 12:32:36 but doesn't, using also -> child.send(number); Apr 21 12:32:36 child.send(msg); Apr 21 12:32:39 use ' instead " Apr 21 12:32:48 might make a diff Apr 21 12:32:49 k Apr 21 12:33:35 nope Apr 21 12:34:16 hmmm Apr 21 12:34:21 what a pain.. Apr 21 12:34:22 \r means carriage return and that's what it does Apr 21 12:34:49 hmm so it needs to be passed to child.send Apr 21 12:34:51 print('123\rx') Apr 21 12:40:13 yea Apr 21 12:40:58 anyway pnatd is using generic AT interface of cellmo, so you need exactly the right format for that string Apr 21 12:45:34 you could invoke pnatd on shell directly, this will show you the result msgs from modem Apr 21 12:45:59 beware! you need a "killall pnatd" in another shell to quit Apr 21 12:54:35 Vib3: I see you omitted the " around in your string construction Apr 21 12:54:54 depending on AT parser this may or even will fail Apr 21 12:55:21 yea, that comes from php :p Apr 21 12:55:26 number = 'at+cmgs="' + args[0] + '"\r' Apr 21 12:57:09 just for best practice, even: Apr 21 12:57:24 number = 'AT+CMGS="' + args[0] + '"\r' Apr 21 12:57:59 that worked, missed that " and ' was needed to together Apr 21 12:58:12 that was cos of \r ? Apr 21 12:59:05 number = 'AT+CMGS="' + args[0].replace('+', '00') + '"\r' Apr 21 13:02:17 my toenails curl on that 0 in args[0] Apr 21 13:02:35 well, that's c Apr 21 13:02:58 *that comes from* Apr 21 13:03:28 c <3 Apr 21 13:03:50 python :F Apr 21 13:03:54 yak Apr 21 13:05:00 DocScrutinizer: thx m8)! Apr 21 13:06:03 I want the camera button to run xterm when the lens cover is on, is it possible? Apr 21 13:06:13 yes Apr 21 13:06:37 camkeyd can be configured i think Apr 21 13:06:39 I think it's named shortcutd or sth like that Apr 21 13:06:44 or that Apr 21 13:06:51 but why would you want to lose the awesome default of task-switching? Apr 21 13:07:47 maybe because awesome taskswitching is on + already? Apr 21 13:08:44 well, then OTOH awesome xterm is on errr shift+ctrl-x? Apr 21 13:12:18 ( that was cos of \r ?) nope, that was because of syntax of that AT cmd is >> AT+CMGS= << and sting in AT is >> "[char]..." <<< Apr 21 13:12:21 DocScrutinizer: so 00$countrycode works also when calling? forget that "$" Apr 21 13:12:45 DocScrutinizer: hard to type shift-ctrl-x... Apr 21 13:13:04 ok Apr 21 13:15:10 I think in GSM "00" is common countrycode prefix, not sure about that "+" Apr 21 13:15:44 fire up pnatd and test it! ;-D Apr 21 13:16:40 ATD+180012345678 vs ATD00180012345678 Apr 21 13:16:46 worked also :p Apr 21 13:16:51 I guess both will work Apr 21 13:17:09 hm Apr 21 13:17:16 N900 is still going Apr 21 13:17:39 Macer: need help how to fix this annoying status? Apr 21 13:17:46 ;-P Apr 21 13:18:15 * DocScrutinizer offers the sledgehammer Apr 21 13:29:57 damn Apr 21 13:29:59 lol Apr 21 13:30:16 diD speak too soon Apr 21 13:30:34 damn sim cut off again :) Apr 21 13:30:40 ah well Apr 21 13:41:18 just reflashed successfully, didn't realise that it has to reboot if you change locales Apr 21 13:46:03 * DocScrutinizer waves and ->afk Apr 21 13:47:22 bye Doc! Apr 21 14:16:27 is it possible to use #31# when calling from dbus? Apr 21 14:18:56 dunno but if you're typing that on the command line, make sure to escape the part with the '#' so it doesn't turn the rest of the line into a comment ;) Apr 21 14:19:41 or, er, quote it I mean Apr 21 14:19:56 though I guess either would work...anyway Apr 21 14:22:33 it's very nice to be able to control the phone so well I think, I've sometimes scheduled wake up calls with it so it makes a call to my gf and turns the speaker on, I might still be sleeping but she'll wake up ;) (she's abroad currently) Apr 21 14:33:01 k, hehe :p Apr 21 14:33:26 when put #31# before said problem with number Apr 21 14:34:08 its funny when setting number to hidden and calling from dbus, number shows up still Apr 21 14:34:41 but DocScrutinizer might know more Apr 21 14:35:35 yeah seems like you can't add it there just like that..tried Apr 21 14:36:09 installed starhash enabler but still didn't work Apr 21 14:36:28 maybe cos its just #31# Apr 21 14:37:21 Vib3 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=66420 Apr 21 14:37:24 How are you dialing this call? Apr 21 14:37:54 yeah that thread makes sense Apr 21 14:38:08 if you go through Teleapthy and not through com.nokia.CSD.call it will work better Apr 21 14:39:01 hmmm, python again :F Apr 21 14:39:10 special things like #31# don't go through com.nokia.CSD.call, they go through com.nokia.CSD.SS Apr 21 14:42:44 ok Apr 21 14:48:11 *#-enabler doesn't affect anything here, it just sets some flag relevant for stock dialer to allow processing of Supplementary Service Codes Apr 21 14:48:44 AT interface won't accept SSC rich "numbers" Apr 21 14:48:52 are there any especially interesting service codes by the way? Apr 21 14:49:11 quite a couple Apr 21 14:50:03 I've never really needed them much myself so I can't really remember them, had to check what the #31# stood for Apr 21 14:50:30 http://www.mobilemania.de/facts+infos/gsmcodes.php Apr 21 14:50:41 http://www.gsmcodes-online.de/Anrufsperren/anrufsperren.html Apr 21 14:51:18 now that I look at that I think the only one I've actually had a proper use for was for forwarding Apr 21 14:51:49 maybe a vague memory of a conference call years ago, not sure :) Apr 21 15:03:31 http://www.geckobeach.com/cellular/secrets/gsmcodes.php (note that all 3-digit codes are USSD, not SSC. they aren't standardized in any way and defined by your provider) Apr 21 15:09:27 hmm that says -> NameError: global name 'sbus' is not defined Apr 21 15:13:49 DANG! >>made excuses instead of owning responsibility for less than standard package<< >>Item was advertized as "brand new", but I received a refurbished phone.<< http://www.ebay.de/itm/New-Nokia-N900-3G-32GB-WIFI-GPS-WVGA-5MP-Carl-Zeiss-QWERTY-SmartPhone-/190638186050?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item2c62ebde42 Apr 21 15:25:16 DocScrutinizer: yeah, I was going to order a backup N900 a month or two ago, then noticed they're all frauds Apr 21 15:34:24 hmm getting with that python calling script -> http://pastebin.com/kcpDiXpf Apr 21 15:36:14 how should that sbus be defined? Apr 21 15:38:50 I guess that's a typo Apr 21 15:38:53 s/d Apr 21 15:39:14 which raises the question: should dbus be defined? Apr 21 15:40:30 idk Apr 21 15:40:48 now it says -> AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'get_object' Apr 21 15:41:43 hmm it should be maybe just "bus" :p Apr 21 15:43:13 yeap Apr 21 15:44:14 this is no proper python program, just a excerpt snippet Apr 21 15:46:54 import dbus \n bus = dbus.SystemBus() \n foobar = bus.get_object('com.nokia.phone.SMS',..... Apr 21 15:47:29 yea got it working Apr 21 15:50:00 s/bus =/sbus =/ Apr 21 15:50:01 DocScrutinizer meant: import dbus \n sbus = dbus.SystemBus() \n foobar = bus.get_object('com.nokia.phone.SMS',..... Apr 21 15:51:27 s/ bus/ sbus/ Apr 21 15:51:27 DocScrutinizer meant: import dbus \n sbus = dbus.SystemBus() \n foobar = bus.get_object('com.nokia.phone.SMS',..... Apr 21 15:51:33 s/ bus/ sbus/g Apr 21 15:51:34 DocScrutinizer meant: import dbus \n sbus = dbus.SystemBus() \n foobar = sbus.get_object('com.nokia.phone.SMS',..... Apr 21 15:51:37 dang Apr 21 15:52:16 ding dong Apr 21 15:52:38 now script calls from hidden number :p Apr 21 15:52:51 thx joga and Doc Apr 21 15:52:55 so post it to that friggin tmo thread! Apr 21 15:53:22 its there Apr 21 15:53:38 just need to make some fixes Apr 21 15:54:41 not there Apr 21 15:56:11 hmm but it needs still fixing :p Apr 21 15:56:19 imo Apr 21 16:16:06 heh Apr 21 16:16:31 i wish this damn windows phone has telepathy Apr 21 16:16:36 :) Apr 21 16:16:55 if there is one thing i limed the most about maemo it was telepathy Apr 21 16:20:14 :D Apr 21 16:32:42 you limed it? did it help? Apr 21 16:33:30 i'm trying to create a deb package for n900 in scratchbox. inspite debian dir inside of the dir with sources contains all necessary files, generate deb file is empty Apr 21 16:33:53 i've created a package with dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b -uc Apr 21 16:34:04 and used this howto: http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Jebba/Package_Building_HOWTO Apr 21 16:39:35 Macer: I fully agree on telepathy being a PITA Apr 21 16:40:17 the ultimate solution to problems we never had before ;-) Apr 21 16:41:02 while inventing a whole new class of generic problems Apr 21 16:46:49 well. actually. compared to most apps that do the same it isnt bad at all Apr 21 16:47:15 i always thought it worked quite well. even kn m4 Apr 21 16:47:19 in Apr 21 16:47:23 damn vkb Apr 21 16:49:07 modulo telepathy is no app at all Apr 21 16:50:06 it's a meta-meta-meta API for "communication" Apr 21 16:52:09 hello Apr 21 16:52:14 is there anyone there? Apr 21 16:52:24 hi Apr 21 16:52:38 is there anyone Apr 21 16:52:39 ? Apr 21 16:52:56 yes... ? Apr 21 16:53:00 oh hello Apr 21 16:53:07 i have a n900 Apr 21 16:53:12 and i seek a littlşe help Apr 21 16:53:16 little Apr 21 16:53:21 can you help me? Apr 21 16:53:42 ~ask Apr 21 16:53:42 Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. Apr 21 16:53:53 ah, it works, lol Apr 21 16:54:06 ok than Apr 21 16:54:20 i just installed kernel_power Apr 21 16:54:40 "or against our will." lol Apr 21 16:54:41 this morning it was working great but i broke it and flashed the phone Apr 21 16:54:57 and now i'm installing the power kernel Apr 21 16:55:14 but i cant find the file @ /etc/default/kernel-power Apr 21 16:55:21 to change my clock settings Apr 21 16:55:25 yeah r00t|home .. i always found that line kewl ;) Apr 21 16:56:21 any ideas how can i get this configuration file? Apr 21 16:56:28 DocScrutinizer: well. i meant telepathy+conversations Apr 21 16:56:33 konur: i also have kernel-power. i dont have that file. what is the 'real' problem you have? Apr 21 16:56:45 not sure what the telepathy client for m4 was called Apr 21 16:56:53 i was changing my clock settings from that config file Apr 21 16:57:04 but i can't find the file Apr 21 16:57:48 and it should be there i mean i used it a lot of times Apr 21 16:57:57 it comes with KP-config Apr 21 16:58:37 this is an app right? Apr 21 16:58:40 which I consider a deprecated tool anyway Apr 21 16:58:45 yes Apr 21 16:59:02 uhm. is scottland called something else? Apr 21 16:59:12 usps doesnt seem to ship to scottland Apr 21 16:59:24 do they use uk post or something? Apr 21 16:59:30 deprecated, since it makes messing with guts of kernel way too easy for noobs with no idea what they're doing Apr 21 16:59:55 lol Apr 21 17:00:00 well how can i get this kp-config Apr 21 17:00:00 those damn noobs Apr 21 17:00:02 ? Apr 21 17:00:19 I suppose via appmanager Apr 21 17:00:30 but i can't find it there Apr 21 17:03:18 yes i can't find this kp-config Apr 21 17:03:21 :S Apr 21 17:05:35 Apr 21 17:06:02 kernel-power-settings Apr 21 17:07:37 i installed that one Apr 21 17:07:57 but i still don't have the file Apr 21 17:08:20 ah.. so when he says clock he means clock speed, lol.. i was still wondering how kernel-power has settings for 'clock' Apr 21 17:08:30 :) Apr 21 17:09:26 http://wiki.maemo.org/Kernel_Power#Use_of_kernel-config Apr 21 17:10:16 is it possible to listen music while making a phone call? Apr 21 17:10:35 i know that page Apr 21 17:10:52 i installed the kernel by this instructions Apr 21 17:11:00 but still no luck Apr 21 17:11:21 uname -r says i have the power kernel but i don't have config files Apr 21 17:12:25 DocScrutinizer: is it possible to listen music while making a phone call? Apr 21 17:13:22 or to play audio file to call Apr 21 17:13:33 yes Apr 21 17:13:41 but tricky Apr 21 17:14:08 check what recall does Apr 21 17:14:28 it at least records both steams Apr 21 17:14:52 for playback to those streams you need sth similar Apr 21 17:15:48 Apr 21 17:15:57 higher arcane PA spells Apr 21 17:17:28 konur: you probably need to create that file, by startung the config app Apr 21 17:17:52 I don't think it gets "installed" Apr 21 17:20:01 yeah you may be right and i figured it just seconds ago and i created same file in home/.kernel Apr 21 17:20:17 and i will edit it from there and load it Apr 21 17:20:22 it should work Apr 21 17:30:55 conky says its working :) Apr 21 17:31:01 but i wonder after a reboot Apr 21 17:33:05 DocScrutinizer: ok, hmmm not easy one.. Apr 21 17:34:15