**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jul 05 02:59:58 2012 Jul 05 07:18:46 freemangordon: to fix the rpath, MOZ_FIX_LINK_PATHS needs to be set up correctly via configure. I tried to substitute the lib dir from $_QTMOBILITY_LIBS, but I couldn't get it to work. For now I've hard-coded it as /opt/qtm12/lib if $_QTMOBILITY_LIBS is defined. Ugly hack :( Test building now... Jul 05 07:19:58 will push if it works Jul 05 08:49:19 hello Jul 05 08:51:34 I am trying to connect to a particularly resistant wifi and I am looking for logs on why this fails. I installed sysklogd and set the debug level of wlancond to 2, but the information logged is sparse and I don't see anything helpful. How can I get more debug info? Jul 05 08:52:25 have tou peeked un dmesg's output? maybe, just maybe, there's some info there... Jul 05 08:52:35 checking Jul 05 08:54:02 StyXman: there is stuff in there related to the successful connection to another essid but not to the one that fails Jul 05 08:55:02 StyXman: The wifi in question is one with "WPA enterprise" auth (no PSK). I have a similar setup at home where this works but at work this fails instantly after I enter the credentials Jul 05 08:55:53 would be nice to have at least a little bit of information on why this fails :( Jul 05 08:56:43 :\ Jul 05 08:57:06 well, I wouldn't even know how to debug it beyond that in a full fledged linux setup... Jul 05 08:58:21 StyXman: Some sites claim that in order for this to work, you have to check "set username manually" for EAP. Unfortunately you can do this in the "internet connection" menu only and not when you connect as usual. These sites advise to set up the connection in "internet connection" and then use it, but if I try to use it it displays the setup routing as if it did not know about the essid Jul 05 08:59:48 papo: beats me Jul 05 09:00:01 maybe I am lucky and there is source code around to see what's going on Jul 05 09:00:18 https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/osso-wlan/trees/master yay! Jul 05 09:00:30 \o/ Jul 05 09:05:49 huh apparently this was compiled with debug flags on... nice Jul 05 09:22:03 I doubt it'll help Jul 05 09:22:16 probably an issue with this wlancond Jul 05 09:29:16 _freemangordon: email yet? Jul 05 09:31:28 DocScrutinizer: so what's this wlancond doing and how is it related to IAP and other wifi-related components? Jul 05 09:32:32 sorry, afk Jul 05 09:33:12 np Jul 05 10:31:59 ~seen qgil Jul 05 10:32:03 qgil was last seen on IRC in channel #harmattan, 281d 11h 45m 29s ago, saying: 'ok, time to leave and join the Qt chapter - Siicon Valley. See you around!'. Jul 05 10:36:49 dude's not an IRC person. Jul 05 10:37:09 Hurrian: I know Jul 05 10:37:37 Hurrian: I was thinking about those n9s being shipped for awards and competitions... Jul 05 10:38:02 chem|st, mine's apparently held up at customs Jul 05 10:38:25 Hurrian: you sure? Jul 05 10:38:48 neat idea would have been to make them some kind unique Jul 05 10:39:02 it is, I've called up DHL, and customs doesn't want to hand over my phone because it doesn't have the magic type approval stickers Jul 05 10:39:06 64GB white or something Jul 05 10:39:08 regulations and all that Jul 05 10:39:24 Hurrian: which country are you in? Jul 05 10:39:31 Philippines. Jul 05 10:41:02 I can't imagine the PITA I'd be in should I have received a N950 instead Jul 05 10:41:24 hehe Jul 05 10:41:44 Hurrian: have you gotten any email about the shipment cause I didn't Jul 05 10:41:49 nooope. Jul 05 10:42:03 I'm in kind of a bind right now, reading the Type Approval sticker on my N900's box… the IMEI's there. Jul 05 10:42:17 how the hell do I apply for a sticker without the IMEI Jul 05 10:42:42 oh well. Jul 05 10:42:54 Hurrian: nokia knows the imei of the phone they sent to you Jul 05 10:43:10 hi Jul 05 10:43:19 Juozapas: hi Jul 05 10:43:30 …unless they simply decided to pick them up out of a stack of phones they had laying around Jul 05 10:43:40 well, hopefully I can get this all sorted out Jul 05 10:44:07 I just hope they are 64gb... Jul 05 10:44:19 16gb is rendered useless in days Jul 05 10:44:31 man, and I was so psyched when the DHL bike arrived. Jul 05 10:44:34 at least for a daily phone Jul 05 10:44:38 chem|st, they're black 16GBs Jul 05 10:44:51 Hurrian: how do you know? Jul 05 10:44:54 when someone call me on landscape mode there is not enough space for 'reject' button, on portrait mode it starts to panic - biger buttons, smaller buttons, sometimes even blank screen (like it's locked, no matter what I press). Any fix for this bug ? Jul 05 10:44:56 threads Jul 05 10:45:07 did quim state that? Jul 05 10:45:16 meh, I'm just going to serve my media from my N900 over adhoc wifi. Jul 05 10:45:20 even with those nokia is cheap... Jul 05 10:46:10 Juozapas: you are talking cssu problem right? Jul 05 10:46:17 yes Jul 05 10:46:33 is it in stable? Jul 05 10:46:40 or testing? Jul 05 10:46:46 Juozapas, check your settings in phone Jul 05 10:46:58 chem|st: stable Jul 05 10:47:09 Power button -> Phone -> Menu -> Turning Control Jul 05 10:47:23 Automatic is broken, fix it to Landscape Jul 05 10:47:59 Hurrian thx Jul 05 10:48:03 :) Jul 05 10:48:18 Juozapas: fix it to portrait, not landscape... Jul 05 10:48:39 I will try bought, thx Jul 05 10:48:53 *both Jul 05 10:49:08 landscape is anoying over time Jul 05 10:59:12 chem|st. not for me, I have my phone on landscape 99% of the time Jul 05 11:01:35 Hurrian: hello. Jul 05 11:01:50 vi__, got your phone yet? Jul 05 11:01:52 Did you receive an email from nokia WRT receiving your CA? Jul 05 11:01:57 nope. Jul 05 11:02:21 Hurrian: Just an email from DHL about how you could not get it due to customs bullshit? Jul 05 11:02:34 the mailman came by around 3 hours ago to hand me a physical mail with said BS Jul 05 11:02:47 Oh...god. Jul 05 11:02:58 I bet my N950 has been shipped to sub-saharan africa. Jul 05 11:03:26 Hurrian: You live in singapore? Jul 05 11:03:30 Phillapeans? Jul 05 11:03:35 vi__, Philippines. Jul 05 11:03:39 ^/BS Spelling. Jul 05 11:04:02 I just wish they would give us some feedback. Jul 05 11:04:20 guess I'm lucky, customs' mood swings got my phone. Jul 05 11:05:56 at this rate, I'd have to go to the NTC office and get the sticker set by myself, and they'd have to figure out how to put it on the phone Jul 05 11:22:49 I am looking for NB#159194 which appears to be a ticket number of some sort of a bug. I got this from the oss-wlan changelog Jul 05 11:22:52 where is that bug ticket? Jul 05 11:30:29 internal nokia tracker Jul 05 11:31:01 sometimes you can find them aliased in the public bugzillas Jul 05 11:35:38 ShadowJK: bah that is annoying Jul 05 11:38:10 ShadowJK: but thank you for the info Jul 05 11:55:11 _freemangordon, busybox-power in community-thumb is working flawlessly, thanks a lot! Jul 05 12:05:36 iDont: "flawlessly" is strong. "*seems* to be working flawlessly" is far safer ;-) Jul 05 12:08:00 Jaffa, I suppose so. Well, let's hope no issues will pop up then :) Jul 05 12:13:15 Could anyone check whether the section on WEP on http://wiki.maemo.org/PEAP%2BMSCHAPv2_WiFi_authentication_setup is in line with any rules for the wiki? This is the first time I contributed to the wiki and investigating the whole thing was a massive pain, so I just want to be done with it and would like to avoid that this section gets removed because of any violations of some rules Jul 05 12:40:01 What's the easiest way for me to add a status area icon on the N900, from within a script? I'm hoping for a command-line thing I can call in shell, e.g. 'addicon -i MyIconFile.png' but would be happy with a python library or something. Hoping to avoid C/C++ or other compiled things. Jul 05 12:43:09 skype works for u on n900 ? for me it's 'network error' for few days already (and no, it's not network problem Jul 05 12:43:35 wfm Jul 05 13:12:53 papo: that entry looks fine Jul 05 13:13:23 also in general we rather adjust than remove content on the wiki, we're not the editor nazis over @ wikipedia ;) Jul 05 13:25:45 merlin1991: thank you Jul 05 13:27:37 papo: There aren't many rules - and people are unlikely to remove useful information if, for example, a new page is camel cased rather than multi-worded. Jul 05 13:27:43 papo: It's not Wikipedia ;-) Jul 05 13:31:00 Jaffa: Yeah that's nice do now. Anything else would have been somewhat disappointing though because digging this whole stuff out was really not a pleasure. Somehow "Network connection error. Try again?" is not a very helpful error message Jul 05 13:36:38 Need a hint here: I wrote in my notes that ~/desktop_hildon is where all the icons for those desktop widgets are, except I can't seem to find that directory. What is the correct location of that directory? (I also tried ~/.*desk* and ~/*desk* ) Jul 05 13:37:49 DocScrutinizer: infobot joined! Jul 05 13:38:13 (referring to N900 in my question above) Jul 05 13:41:23 /usr/share/applications/hildon/*.desktop Jul 05 13:45:29 ...and /home/user/.local/share/applications/... Jul 05 14:22:06 film Jul 05 14:22:12 film Jul 05 15:06:25 ~+uptime Jul 05 15:06:25 - Uptime for purl - Jul 05 15:06:26 Now: 1h 29m 22s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux Jul 05 15:06:26 1: 59d 8h 41m 19s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Sun Nov 14 18:39:57 2010 Jul 05 15:06:26 2: 57d 3h 9m 23s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Fri Jun 26 20:39:27 2009 Jul 05 15:06:26 3: 36d 20h 47m 14s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Tue Aug 4 17:38:59 2009 Jul 05 15:18:33 freemangordon: cleanest solutiuon I've come up with for rpath is to set the qtm12 path in the LDFLAGS from mozconfig, and have a custom MOZ_FIX_LINK_PATHS with '-Wl,-rpath,$(prefix)/$(MOZ_APP_NAME)-$(MOZ_APP_VERSION)' in configure.in Jul 05 15:28:15 freemangordon: I've pushed the configure.in change. Make sure you add "-Wl,-rpath,/opt/qtm12/lib" to the LDFLAGS in mozconfig. Jul 05 15:54:32 DocScrutinizer51: what is a typical input impedance of a CMOS chip? I.e. The GPIO on a PIC microcontroller? Jul 05 15:54:43 input Jul 05 15:54:50 MOhms Jul 05 15:55:53 jacekowski: in the order of megaohms? Jul 05 15:56:02 yes Jul 05 15:56:10 well, a lot more in reality Jul 05 15:56:38 you are more in gigaohms range than megaohms Jul 05 15:56:44 and this is due to the resistance of 'off' resistance the mosfets? Jul 05 15:56:59 mosfets have very high resistance Jul 05 15:57:04 all there is is small capacitor Jul 05 15:57:14 and it's leakage current ( resistance) Jul 05 15:57:32 REad the datasheet. Jul 05 15:57:41 It depends strongly on the design. Jul 05 15:57:57 i think they more often specify leakage current than impedance Jul 05 15:57:57 It may be very far from gigohms for a GPIO pin. Jul 05 15:58:02 * vi__ is already reading... Jul 05 15:58:04 Indeed. Jul 05 15:58:27 As the leakage from the output switches - even in 'off' state may be significant. Jul 05 17:29:31 zeq: ping Jul 05 17:39:03 what's window manager similar to matchbox, for single window low resource ("embedded") system Jul 05 17:42:45 freemangordon: pong Jul 05 17:47:12 zeq: did you succeed with rpath? Jul 05 17:47:31 btw romaxa is on #mobile, we are having some chatter Jul 05 17:47:39 yes, after a fashion Jul 05 17:48:07 see the commit Jul 05 17:48:16 freemangordon: I've pushed the configure.in change. Make sure you add "-Wl,-rpath,/opt/qtm12/lib" to the LDFLAGS in mozconfig. Jul 05 17:48:24 from earlier ^ Jul 05 17:49:16 there wasn't a clean way to get the installdir automatically in mozconfig Jul 05 17:50:06 I attempted to hack something up to get the qtm12 lib dir in configure.in but I couldn't get that working. Jul 05 17:50:28 It's okay in mozconfig though IMO since the PKG_CONFIG_PATH is set there anyway. Jul 05 17:51:10 freemangordon: anyway, it is working :) Jul 05 17:52:54 zeq: yeah, sounds just a little bit hackish :) Jul 05 17:52:59 should be ok that way Jul 05 17:54:00 rpath is kind of hackish anyway :) Jul 05 17:58:54 zeq: you're missing the fun on #mobile :P Jul 05 17:59:06 [20:39] freemangordon: I just got stuff compiled, will reflash maemo5, and try to figure out what is the status of Qt fennec on maemo5 Jul 05 17:59:34 [20:35] freemangordon: btw, found fix for building with maemo5 native compiler https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=771222 Jul 05 17:59:36 04Bug 771222: was not found. Jul 05 17:59:38 zeq: ^^^ Jul 05 18:02:37 wtf? stupid wifi router :( Jul 05 18:09:45 _freemangordon: romaxa building with 4.2? Jul 05 18:11:16 <_freemangordon> zeq: yep. and you'd better join #mobile as I am going out adn wont be available for the next few hours Jul 05 18:11:56 freemangordon: I was having my dinner :P Jul 05 18:12:13 :) Jul 05 18:12:22 ok, sorry to interrupt Jul 05 18:12:38 anyway I am afk Jul 05 18:12:48 see you later :) Jul 05 18:14:38 zeq: I had some network issues here, don;t know if that message ever made it Jul 05 18:14:40 [20:56] romaxa: here https://github.com/sjnewbury/fennec-qt-maemo5.git is the source me and zeq are using, it contains volume keys zoom patch, debian/, some changes in configure.in, patch for old maemo5 gstreamer, etc. Would you like to have commit rights? Jul 05 18:14:53 bb Jul 05 18:15:32 I can't see it on #mobile Jul 05 18:16:21 yeah, that is what I mean Jul 05 18:16:25 :( Jul 05 18:18:34 freemangordon: I've pasted your missing offer on #mobile Jul 05 19:02:41 zeq, freemangordon: found why Nokia disabled rotation on harm outside qt Jul 05 19:04:24 "So there is a fair bit of xrandr functionality in the driver, but it's Jul 05 19:04:24 not utilized by the upper layers. The main reason for that was that the Jul 05 19:04:24 UI designers wanted the transitions to be glitch free, and there just Jul 05 19:04:24 wasn't enough time to make that happen with xrandr." Jul 05 19:16:13 * RST38h moos, sacrifices a user to the Tentacled One Jul 05 19:16:33 vi__: (typ Z-in) infinite Jul 05 19:16:48 qwazix_: rush job Jul 05 19:17:58 hi there.got a nokia n900.i installed yesterday synaptic.something went wrong now can't boot up my phone Jul 05 19:17:59 zeq, and they didn't stay to that, they crippled X to NOT support xrandr Jul 05 19:18:08 why the hell did they do that? Jul 05 19:18:13 vi__: for all that matters in practice Jul 05 19:18:30 now I can't build hildon desktop Jul 05 19:18:50 the nokia logo shows up dark,and yellow led switches on and off Jul 05 19:19:03 * qwazix_ bangs his head desperately on the wall Jul 05 19:19:11 cant set to flashing mode,usb not recognized Jul 05 19:19:21 vi__: if it actually starts to matter for your design, then rethink your design Jul 05 19:19:27 qwazix_: can't you replace the xserver? Jul 05 19:20:30 could somebody tell me what's next? Jul 05 19:20:47 zeq, seems out of my league to do that, I could give it a try though Jul 05 19:22:36 zsolt what is the os your using for flashing? Jul 05 19:23:22 under windows 7 it may not recognize the usb, use a linux distro or follow the usb installation instructions on the flasher page. Jul 05 19:23:27 debian Jul 05 19:23:31 Hmm bugger. Jul 05 19:23:44 I dont know enough then about that. Jul 05 19:23:53 You said synaptic package maanger? Jul 05 19:23:58 win7 recognized as flashing driver Jul 05 19:24:04 vi__: btw usually for SoC GPIO you can switch pullup/pulldown R at your discretion Jul 05 19:24:13 zsolt: your battery is full? ^^ Jul 05 19:24:51 synaptic ..hmmm, i bet it did some apt-get autoremove or apt-get dist-upgrade Jul 05 19:24:55 vi__: those are in the range 1k...100k Jul 05 19:24:57 problem is is that if you cant boot into the os it will not charge. Jul 05 19:25:11 yeah but that shouldnt brick a device, just bork the app manager. Jul 05 19:25:14 i measured about 3,4 Jul 05 19:25:28 I think full is 4. been a while though. Jul 05 19:25:51 pepper: not completely correct Jul 05 19:26:24 affraid that only fbox can do the trick :( but if it is possible want to repair on my own Jul 05 19:26:53 the problem is that dmesg shows nokia phone Jul 05 19:26:58 fbox? zsolt you don't need to panic here Jul 05 19:27:09 sorry Jul 05 19:27:16 the easiest way out is to flash device Jul 05 19:27:36 zsolt: at 3.4 your battery is too flat Jul 05 19:27:41 Doc: What is new and exciting in this industry-forgotten corner of the Net? Jul 05 19:28:00 zsolt: at 3.4 your battery is too flat Jul 05 19:28:04 zsolt: ^^ Jul 05 19:28:09 dmesg shows : Product:Nokia USB ROM Jul 05 19:28:19 Manufacturer: Nokia Jul 05 19:28:22 RST38h: dunno, industry hogs my time Jul 05 19:28:40 configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Jul 05 19:28:51 zsolt: at 3.4 your battery is too flat Jul 05 19:28:54 usb disconnect,address 109 Jul 05 19:29:09 DocScrutinizer51: one more time! Jul 05 19:29:11 zsolt: in short, he means charge the battery using other means Jul 05 19:29:18 lsusb shows nothing Jul 05 19:29:26 zsolt: at 3.4 your battery is too flat Jul 05 19:29:26 ok Jul 05 19:29:32 thank you Jul 05 19:29:38 than what's next? Jul 05 19:29:39 Meanwhile: First iOS Malware Discovered In Apple's App Store Jul 05 19:29:49 gawd! Jul 05 19:29:52 charge i Jul 05 19:29:53 link? Jul 05 19:30:24 it Jul 05 19:30:26 zsolt: you have access to a N97? Jul 05 19:30:33 nope Jul 05 19:30:35 or 5800 :P Jul 05 19:30:39 yeah Jul 05 19:30:48 if N900 doesn't boot up, you actually need another means to charge Jul 05 19:30:49 RST38h: link, if you may Jul 05 19:31:18 theres also a wall charger available somewhere, I think Jul 05 19:31:39 niwakame: eh? Jul 05 19:31:49 my phone switches on and off,and yellow led sometimes lights up,vibrates and nokia logo appears darkly Jul 05 19:31:51 * RST38h mays: http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/359898/20120705/first-ios-malware-discover-find-call.htm Jul 05 19:32:02 thanks. :) Jul 05 19:32:24 zsolt: symthoms of too low battery and botked rootfs Jul 05 19:32:25 DocScrutinizer51: something like this? http://yby.en.alibaba.com/product/487055410-213635588/Battery_wall_charger_for_Nokia_5800_N900_X6.html Jul 05 19:32:38 hmmm Jul 05 19:32:53 should be available from bay also Jul 05 19:32:54 someone was just today telling me that iStuff is best because everything you install is well tested and malware free Jul 05 19:32:57 got a wall charger and a data cable Jul 05 19:32:57 :P Jul 05 19:33:08 i going to charge it to full Jul 05 19:33:22 but after that what can I do? Jul 05 19:33:28 zsolt: problem is, n900 needs cpu to be active to charge (or charging processor thingy) Jul 05 19:34:05 zsolt: if it's too flat, it won't charge, because it loses power when trying to activate the circuits Jul 05 19:34:19 (simple version, ask DocScrutinizer51 for a half hour explanation :P) Jul 05 19:34:27 no pun intended! Jul 05 19:34:36 understand,thank you Jul 05 19:34:58 ask your friends if someone has a compatible battery or nokia 5800 or n97 Jul 05 19:35:20 thank you Jul 05 19:35:28 Or get McGyver, jumper cables, a chewing gum paper and a car battery Jul 05 19:35:30 ;) Jul 05 19:35:36 :) Jul 05 19:35:50 ~flatbat-recover Jul 05 19:35:58 forgot Jul 05 19:36:00 hmm, been a long time Jul 05 19:36:12 ~flat-bat-recover Jul 05 19:36:43 infobot is busy atm Jul 05 19:36:49 ~flatbatrecover Jul 05 19:36:49 Remove battery for 1 minute. Insert battery. Plug powered Nokia wallcharger to device. Watch steady amber. Let sit and charge. Do NOT try to boot. After 30 min, you got either a) a booted up N900, b) flashing amber which means you can boot, c) steady amber going off - in this case start over again with ~flatbatrecover Jul 05 19:37:43 this applies only when your rootfs not fecked Jul 05 19:39:10 i think that messed up my system with synaptic sysupdate :( Jul 05 19:40:14 huh, out of my league, but shouldn't do that Jul 05 19:40:45 that's why every expereinced N900 user always as a charged spare battery Jul 05 19:41:05 ;) Jul 05 19:41:49 thank you for advices Jul 05 19:42:02 welcome Jul 05 19:51:26 is there a way to make fapman default to "All packages" in the filter? Jul 05 19:51:30 *as the filter Jul 05 19:54:11 also, did someone change the shell for root without breaking anything Jul 05 19:54:12 ? Jul 05 19:57:48 fapman is a terrible name Jul 05 19:58:22 fapman is an awesome name Jul 05 20:00:39 fap fap fap Jul 05 20:02:15 faster app faster app faster app. that's what you said Jul 05 20:04:17 kerio: for root it's basically safe Jul 05 20:04:29 not though for user Jul 05 20:04:34 DocScrutinizer: wait, what? Jul 05 20:04:35 D: Jul 05 20:04:37 i changed it for user Jul 05 20:05:38 changing shell in itself doesn't mean a lot either Jul 05 20:05:58 fap fap fap Jul 05 20:06:05 fsck fsck fsck Jul 05 20:06:12 it's alternatives for fubar messybox builtin unix tools that will "break" stuff for user Jul 05 20:06:29 meh, i don't give a shit about that Jul 05 20:06:31 or even touch;finger;fsck;clear Jul 05 20:07:08 kerio: oh? Jul 05 20:07:29 so what is it then you want from a "better" shell? Jul 05 20:07:37 gnu tools, for instance :) Jul 05 20:07:44 i followed jrtools Jul 05 20:07:51 THAT'S WHAT I TALK ABOUT, foooool! Jul 05 20:08:24 seriously though Jul 05 20:08:37 i've changed user's shell since forever Jul 05 20:08:41 and had no problems Jul 05 20:09:05 some pretty basic command like ls doesn'T behave posix conforming in messybox, and user/hildon startup scripts relied on that. Dunno if it changed Jul 05 20:09:22 i'm just going to go ahead and assume that scripts are correctly shebanged to run in busybox and not just "sh" Jul 05 20:09:41 because i live in a world of fantasy where everyone is happy c: Jul 05 20:09:48 bwahaha Jul 05 20:11:07 * RST38h quietly considers sacrificing kerio to the Tentacled One. A little morsel indeed, but will count for something. Jul 05 20:11:49 LOL Jul 05 20:11:49 i really hope i didn't break backupmenu now Jul 05 20:11:56 it would suck to lose *that* Jul 05 20:12:02 (changed root's shell now Jul 05 20:12:07 nah, that should be fine Jul 05 20:12:08 aaargh mismatched parentheses) Jul 05 20:12:12 Meanwhile: Linux Played a Vital Role In Discovery of Higgs Boson (guess the source of this headline without googling) Jul 05 20:12:19 slashdot? Jul 05 20:12:25 RRRIGHT Jul 05 20:12:28 fuck yeah Jul 05 20:12:43 stuff like that is one of the reasons i stopped reading /. Jul 05 20:12:49 another is that reddit takes up too much time anywayt Jul 05 20:12:51 *anyway Jul 05 20:13:10 RST38h what fsck stands for Jul 05 20:13:19 RiD: Google? Jul 05 20:13:20 infobot, what is fapman Jul 05 20:13:21 I think you lost me on that one, RiD Jul 05 20:13:22 kerio: I ususally skip directly to the comments section and read it for personal amusement :D Jul 05 20:13:22 * DocScrutinizer fires a higgs boson gun at RST38h general direction Jul 05 20:13:31 RST38h no thanks Jul 05 20:13:34 * RST38h eats that higgs boson whole Jul 05 20:13:45 dammit RST38h Jul 05 20:13:47 higgs boson should be a name for a high calory cake Jul 05 20:13:50 aren't you fat enough already Jul 05 20:13:56 RiD: exactly Jul 05 20:13:58 this will cause quite some mass in your stomach ;-P Jul 05 20:14:03 No, I am not fat.I am evil. Jul 05 20:14:13 RiD: or a protein shake Jul 05 20:14:21 infobot no, fapman is Faster Application Manager, an alternative to the bulky and slow one that comes by default on the N900 Jul 05 20:14:22 okay, RiD Jul 05 20:14:26 smart boy Jul 05 20:14:37 ~fapman Jul 05 20:14:37 [fapman] Faster Application Manager, an alternative to the bulky and slow one that comes by default on the N900 Jul 05 20:14:43 ~botsnack Jul 05 20:14:43 kerio: :) Jul 05 20:14:48 infobot: :) Jul 05 20:14:48 (: Jul 05 20:14:55 d'awwwwwwwwwwww~ Jul 05 20:15:16 infobot what is opera Jul 05 20:15:16 i guess opera is at http://www.opera.com or opera ends when the fat lady sings. Jul 05 20:15:17 so cute ^^ Jul 05 20:15:23 good. Jul 05 20:15:30 kicks RiD's ass with a cowboy boot Jul 05 20:15:44 DocScrutinizer / DocScrutinizer51 don't be mad :( Jul 05 20:15:53 ~fsck Jul 05 20:15:53 No devices specified to be checked! Jul 05 20:16:00 ~fsck RiD Jul 05 20:16:01 e2fsck /dev/RiD : warning! filesystem contains dickheads! Jul 05 20:16:06 wha Jul 05 20:16:07 Hmmmmmmm Jul 05 20:16:15 sorry i just reflashed my brain Jul 05 20:16:31 can you rollback to the previous version? Jul 05 20:16:39 no, this is android Jul 05 20:16:42 of course you can! with backupmenu! Jul 05 20:16:54 i don't have a backupmenu Jul 05 20:16:58 this is life or death, kid Jul 05 20:17:13 do you also have nitroid installed there? Jul 05 20:17:18 or infinite reboots until the death Jul 05 20:17:28 hehehe, Mr. RSTti Jul 05 20:18:01 hrmpf, can someone give me a link to download opera mobile for maemo? Jul 05 20:18:11 use their repositories Jul 05 20:18:23 the website tells me to go to m.opera.com Jul 05 20:18:30 i go there, i get redirected to a desktop site Jul 05 20:18:37 that tells me to go to m.opera.com on my device Jul 05 20:18:49 silly opera, user agents don't work that way Jul 05 20:18:49 kerio try this http://www.opera.com/download/get.pl?sub=++++&id=32891&location=270&nothanks=yes Jul 05 20:19:14 RiD: hahaha, nothanks=yes always makes me crack Jul 05 20:19:32 no thanks. Jul 05 20:19:41 is it worth installing? Jul 05 20:19:44 or is microB still better? Jul 05 20:19:51 Well, it really depends on what you're browsing Jul 05 20:20:32 Let's say that Opera is usually faster at loading pages, doesn't screw up with big images unlike microb, but doesn't have flash and the scrolling can be stutterish Jul 05 20:22:11 i find myself using opera more and more because of the site desktop "updates". They put all that fancy transition moving things and stuff, but their mobile version is always TOO basic Jul 05 20:24:41 I think opera is also in extras? Jul 05 20:24:43 maybe devel only Jul 05 20:46:51 ShadowJK: it appears so Jul 05 20:46:51 yay Jul 05 22:00:25 hi there.i currently seeking a solution how to boot maemo from sd card.are there any rescue systems that boots from sd card? Jul 05 22:00:32 Dang, there's a Opera Mobile 12 but maemo hasn't received its version yet. Jul 05 22:01:17 Used to be those Nokia fans at Opera would make one for the n900 too, even though it's not an official platform target. Jul 05 22:01:18 zsolt: It can be done - if you've already installed a bootloader on the main flash Jul 05 22:01:43 i didn't Jul 05 22:02:00 i need just a basic kernel and a busybox Jul 05 22:02:03 zsolt: is your USB broken? Jul 05 22:02:25 my filesystem is corrupted and cant boot my phone Jul 05 22:02:56 can't reflash my phone since the battery is undercharged Jul 05 22:03:35 and got no idea what to do.so if i am able to boot a rescue os that will do the trick i think Jul 05 22:04:00 i will able to charge my battery Jul 05 22:04:45 Plug it in, and start the flasher - it should do 'waiting for charge' or something Jul 05 22:05:34 And it will charge up to the required level in the flasher Jul 05 22:05:59 problem is that flasher cant see my phone,nor lsusb Jul 05 22:06:08 dmesg shows as nokia rom Jul 05 22:06:23 but it says that it is disconnected Jul 05 22:06:50 you may need to remove a USB module - it's been a while since I did this Jul 05 22:06:53 ~flashing Jul 05 22:06:53 somebody said maemo-flashing was http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware Jul 05 22:06:54 only nokia logo shows up darkly Jul 05 22:07:35 tryed to press u button,nothing happens Jul 05 22:07:56 Have you tried plugging it into the wallcharger for a day? Jul 05 22:08:18 The easy solution is to buy a cheap battery from ebay. Jul 05 22:08:51 yes,but i heard a rumor that the charging is intelligent,so if the os is messed up,it can't charge the battery Jul 05 22:09:18 To a degree, yes. Jul 05 22:11:39 do you have any other old phone around (preferably nokia)? Jul 05 22:11:50 yes Jul 05 22:11:57 got a 9600 Jul 05 22:12:14 or something like that Jul 05 22:12:41 You could try connecting the N900 battery to that, either if it partially fits, or using little cables, and charge it for a while Jul 05 22:13:22 There are also very cheap usb chargers Jul 05 22:13:24 is it harmful? Jul 05 22:13:50 I've successfully cross-charged nokia batteries by managing to make contact between the battery and phone even if the battery doesn't fit exactly Jul 05 22:14:06 the voltage is the same (you can always double-check that) Jul 05 22:14:15 got a bl4c battery Jul 05 22:14:30 and if you don't leave it to charge to full there should be no problem with capacity either Jul 05 22:14:32 and n900 uses bl5j Jul 05 22:14:56 ~bl4c Jul 05 22:15:23 they are the same voltage :) Jul 05 22:15:30 thank you so much Jul 05 22:16:33 there are 3 contacts in the phone Jul 05 22:16:39 I'd just get a cheap one - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OEM-NOKIA-BATTERY-BL-5J-FOR-X1-00-X1-01-C3-00-X6-5800-N900-5230-5235-5228-/190543115168?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2c5d4133a0 Jul 05 22:16:39 and in the batt Jul 05 22:16:52 At that sort of price - it's a no-brainer Jul 05 22:17:10 Hi there, please help me Jul 05 22:17:12 should i contact the third one too? Jul 05 22:17:30 I want to flash my N900 but I dont know if I have to use the vanilla img Jul 05 22:17:54 it seems that the +/- are differently arranged Jul 05 22:18:38 potter, what region is your N900? Jul 05 22:18:49 I think it is UK Jul 05 22:19:21 Cripes, somebody really uglified my pretty article. :( http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware Jul 05 22:19:44 :/ Jul 05 22:19:50 They do that. Jul 05 22:20:12 well, I need a little help, I am not very good with english Jul 05 22:20:31 Purty: http://wiki.maemo.org/index.php?title=Updating_the_firmware&oldid=22709 Jul 05 22:20:33 2009 Jul 05 22:20:36 * GeneralAntilles feels old Jul 05 22:21:13 I read in a web that I dont need to use the emmc to flash it, it is only necesary with the preproduction Jul 05 22:21:55 * GeneralAntilles is no longer an expert on this. Jul 05 22:22:05 zsolt, I wouldn't contact it like that, you have to match + to + - to - and ground to ground Jul 05 22:23:42 it doesn't seem too easy. I've done it between bl4c and bl5c where at least the contacts have the same order Jul 05 22:24:10 but you can always try, if you don't short cirquit it there should be no harm Jul 05 22:34:18 GeneralAntilles, my maemo version is fremantle, is it an old version? Jul 05 22:34:39 Fremantle is the n900 version. Jul 05 22:34:42 There isn't a newer Jul 05 22:35:55 wich is the newer firmware version Jul 05 22:37:10 cross your fingers hildon-desktop is building on harmattan scratchbox... Jul 05 22:37:16 let's see how it goes Jul 05 22:37:55 bah, errors... Jul 05 22:47:45 GeneralAntilles, gave me 2 links, wich one is the right one? Jul 05 22:48:07 one tells me to use the emmc, the other one just the firmware Jul 05 22:48:36 http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware Jul 05 22:48:56 mmm, ok Jul 05 22:49:00 ty Jul 05 22:50:57 GeneralAntilles, one more think, can I use any of the firmware regins? I am from latin america and I would like the global if it is posible Jul 05 22:51:13 I think global will be fine. Jul 05 22:51:16 Just don't use Chinese. Jul 05 22:51:32 ??? Jul 05 22:52:13 i found a weird link that redirects to maemo talk Jul 05 22:53:20 http://5z8.info/stalin_x7u6ye_freeporn Jul 05 22:58:00 I've got two versions of a lib on my system, one in /usr/lib and another in /usr/local/lib, how I tell the linker which one to link against? Other dependencies are either in /usr/lib or /usr/local/lib Jul 05 23:00:20 to download the flasher, there are 2 versions, the 64 ver for harmattan and the 32 ver for fremantle and diablo, but the proble is that my os is a Debian 64 Jul 05 23:00:34 when installin the package gives me error Jul 06 00:33:34 problem solved.put n900's battery inside an e90 and measured that is charging Jul 06 00:34:06 it fits great inside Jul 06 00:46:08 now nokia logo shows up brightly and blue led is on,but after that not booting and turns off Jul 06 00:46:59 could somebody tell me what the hell is going on with my phone? Jul 06 01:19:17 Are you colour-blind? Jul 06 01:32:19 light blue maybe Jul 06 01:33:34 bagel blue **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Jul 06 02:59:58 2012