**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jul 10 02:59:58 2012 Jul 10 05:20:16 I have an issue with connecting the n900 to a debian laptop. When I connect in PCSuite mode and try to rsync files between netbook and n900 only the phone memory is available. The SB card is mounted ro every time. How can I make it mount rw? Jul 10 05:24:08 jpinx, ..? why are you using 'pc suite' mode? Jul 10 05:25:50 japh: cos I use wvdial to connect to internet through my simcard Jul 10 05:27:58 jpinx: try to unmount that memorycard manually. Maybe something is using it or something Jul 10 05:28:27 jpinx, humm. Jul 10 05:28:47 sulx: tried that. but remounting fails Jul 10 05:28:58 if you don't answer the question, you can access everything as-is Jul 10 05:29:58 japh: did you not see? I use PCSuite mode so that I can use wvdial in the netbook to connect to the internet throught the n900 simcard Jul 10 05:30:45 okay, I really don't understand what that is Jul 10 05:31:04 by question I didn't mean my question, but the one the phone is asking when connecting the device to the computer Jul 10 05:31:19 ignore me then :) Jul 10 05:31:43 japh: it is not asking a question - merely tells me that the SD card memory is not available cos it is mounted ro Jul 10 07:09:06 hi Jul 10 07:11:12 any idea if failure of reading the simcard is a known problem of the n900? Jul 10 07:12:09 phrearch: not heard of it in 3 years and 2 n900's Jul 10 07:12:29 phrearch: and multiple international simcards Jul 10 07:13:18 jpinx: hm, guess im unlucky then Jul 10 07:13:42 phrearch: check the sim card in another phone Jul 10 07:13:50 likely a dud ;) Jul 10 07:14:20 yea good idea. its a weird issue Jul 10 07:16:11 http://discussions.nokia.com/t5/Maemo-and-MeeGo-Devices/N900-no-mobile-network-connectivity-SIM-card-not-recognized/td-p/689268 Jul 10 07:17:39 ill have to try it in another phone first Jul 10 07:22:03 phrearch: make sure your n900 is not in flight mode Jul 10 07:26:11 ehm, where is that setting? Jul 10 07:29:51 press the on/off for a second and a menu will show Jul 10 07:32:19 ah got it. no itw as not in flight modus Jul 10 07:32:30 first time i ever see this menu hehe Jul 10 07:33:32 looks like its a goner. it always worked as expected, but at some point it just failed without no obvious reason :( Jul 10 07:36:04 phrearch: did it get wet and/or abraded? Jul 10 07:36:32 it was kinda warm that day Jul 10 07:36:52 i think it got toasted Jul 10 07:37:42 define "warm" ? I've had simcards ok at 50 degrees Centigrade Jul 10 07:38:07 30 degrees or something, nothing extreme Jul 10 07:38:53 phrearch: check your n900 with a known good simcard Jul 10 07:39:43 if it fails the problems is probably hardware - possible just the little spring contacts in the simcard holder onto the sim card Jul 10 07:40:00 i already tried to move those a little bit up Jul 10 07:40:16 phrearch: but be careful if fiddling with those --very easy to damage Jul 10 07:40:28 probably hardware. will check with another simcard asap Jul 10 07:40:31 yep :) Jul 10 07:41:05 heh Jul 10 07:41:17 i had the same problem Jul 10 07:41:20 modem failure Jul 10 07:41:28 tried bending the pins up didn't work Jul 10 07:41:49 kept losing the sim/cell connection.... sucked :-/ i miss my n900 Jul 10 07:42:16 aha, sounds like the same issue Jul 10 07:42:25 you sent if for repair? Jul 10 07:42:49 no Jul 10 07:43:01 i tried but they said thephone was purchased from the UK Jul 10 07:43:13 hm too bad Jul 10 07:43:14 and there is no viable way to ship it to UK and have them ship it back to the US Jul 10 07:43:19 yeah.. it sucks Jul 10 07:43:30 i wouldn't even mind getting an e7 back tbh Jul 10 07:44:03 but it did let me get away from t-mobile.. which totally sucks in chicago.. i swapped to att and got a lumia 900 Jul 10 07:44:12 i wouldn't mind getting an N9 if they were't still so expensive Jul 10 07:45:41 i still use the n900 at home via wifi Jul 10 07:45:41 maybe I've been lucky with hardware - 3 n900's and always managed to fix them myself - one is a dedicated usb modem for the netbook Jul 10 07:45:57 heh yeah.. my first n900 had the usb port fall off Jul 10 07:46:01 yea, maybe nice as webserver :) Jul 10 07:46:04 didn't even know they did that until it happened to me Jul 10 07:46:16 guess it was a common failure Jul 10 07:46:24 Macer: did you explore getting a new simcard holder and fitting it yourself? Jul 10 07:46:45 no.. i saw no need since i got away from tmobile.. 2G is no fun ;) Jul 10 07:46:46 Macer: yea - reams have been written about the weak usb ports and how to fix them Jul 10 07:46:59 i saw that.. tried to fix it but couldn't manage to do it Jul 10 07:47:03 gave up and got a new one Jul 10 07:47:08 which had the modem failure with the sim Jul 10 07:47:20 worked great for almost a year.. then ... broken Jul 10 07:47:32 i thought my sim was messed up but guess it was the n900 :( Jul 10 07:47:35 it was a sad day Jul 10 07:47:52 nothing beats the n900.. i wish nokia kept that type of device going Jul 10 07:47:54 you can buy 2nd hand n900's really cheap now Jul 10 07:48:04 "cheap" ;) Jul 10 07:48:18 i actually got that one for pretty cheap.. but after 2 breaks ... i gave up Jul 10 07:48:19 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1229823 Jul 10 07:48:19 Macer: depends what country you're in Jul 10 07:48:25 i'm in the US Jul 10 07:48:49 Macer: in NZ they can be as low as US$70 equivalent Jul 10 07:49:06 less if you're prepared to replace a screen or even just flassh the system Jul 10 07:49:06 i could probably get a new one for around $150 here.. but i don't want to use 2G Jul 10 07:49:21 oh i'm sure.. i had a spare screen .. sold it on ebay for $50 Jul 10 07:49:26 from the first one with the USB port that broke Jul 10 07:49:40 i was keeping it around for the 2nd one just in case.. but see no need to keep it Jul 10 07:49:42 lots of semi-broken ones for sale cos people don't know how to fix them Jul 10 07:49:46 heh Jul 10 07:49:59 they're actually incredibly easy to disassemble Jul 10 07:50:09 for the type of device it is Jul 10 07:50:11 * jpinx has 2 working and one for spares Jul 10 07:50:13 i think the G2 was the worst i took apart Jul 10 07:50:40 always looking for another broken one for spares ;) Jul 10 07:50:52 does the N9 support the att 3G freq? Jul 10 07:50:59 or 4G? Jul 10 07:51:20 but then again.. lord knows how well that meego dev is going :) since nokia abandoned that as well Jul 10 07:51:32 wow the n8x0 and n9xxx series was a total drag Jul 10 07:51:38 such potential but constantly abandoned Jul 10 07:51:51 time and time and time again.. what a shame Jul 10 07:52:13 bad management from nokia. i think they got lobotomized at some point Jul 10 07:52:21 i agree Jul 10 07:52:43 they got lobotomized by MS ;) Jul 10 07:52:51 i can understand the need to swap over to wp7 or win8.. but they could have kept the N900 line going Jul 10 07:53:02 just as a niche Jul 10 07:53:12 i'm sure it would still have been quite profitable Jul 10 07:53:20 yea, same Jul 10 07:53:22 Macer: they had a great chance to take on MS and Android and win Jul 10 07:53:37 jpinx: i dunno... i doubt that for some reason Jul 10 07:53:41 but their new boss is a MS clone..... Jul 10 07:53:41 they'd have to have something come out shining Jul 10 07:54:12 and people were already stuck on ios, android, and wp7 Jul 10 07:54:22 Macer: the n900 could be slimmed down and the OS refined -- look at the work the volunteers have done..... Jul 10 07:54:28 i have to admit.. while i miss my n900 and love maemo.... Jul 10 07:54:35 wp7 isn't that bad :) Jul 10 07:54:38 ios is a pos Jul 10 07:54:42 i have a lumia 900 Jul 10 07:54:48 and wp7 is worse Jul 10 07:55:01 jpinx: tbh.. in comparison to what maemo was doing.... Jul 10 07:55:05 everything is a pos ;) Jul 10 07:55:10 REAL multitasking Jul 10 07:55:10 clicky OS's that only do what they allow you Jul 10 07:55:23 awesome interface.. just great system Jul 10 07:55:38 jpinx: i guess.. but that is life... :) Jul 10 07:55:45 i honestly think wp7 does everything i need Jul 10 07:55:50 life sux sometimes ;) Jul 10 07:55:57 but i miss having an xserver and xterm :( Jul 10 07:56:16 Macer: I couldn't live without cl on the n900 Jul 10 07:56:26 heh Jul 10 07:56:31 believe it or not Jul 10 07:56:38 and the ability to ssh into it and fiddle Jul 10 07:56:45 ie for wp7 is probably the best broser i have used on a mobile device ;) Jul 10 07:56:52 browser Jul 10 07:57:14 microb was ok.. but rather sluggish.. but of course that can be hardware.. but the mozilla engine seems to have gotten retardedly bloated Jul 10 07:57:16 mobile browswers universally suck cos the websites are really crap Jul 10 07:57:32 i suppose.. but it is very tolerable using ie Jul 10 07:57:39 Macer: yea - even firefox is bloatware now :( Jul 10 07:57:47 it really is the best one i've tried so far on a phone or small device Jul 10 07:58:03 responsive.. supports most things... just overall works and is quick Jul 10 07:58:06 * jpinx is resisting chrome on the eeepc Jul 10 07:58:08 something i didn't expect from ie Jul 10 07:58:32 google had very few good ideas Jul 10 07:58:42 gmail... gdocs... android... and chrome Jul 10 07:58:52 the rest of everything google pretty much sucks Jul 10 07:59:06 maps are pretty good Jul 10 07:59:08 and chrome was probably their 2nd biggest accomplishment :) Jul 10 07:59:28 i wonder how much information chrome sucks up for google Jul 10 07:59:40 lots ;) Jul 10 07:59:44 heh Jul 10 07:59:53 what makes it so bad... is that chrome is awesome Jul 10 07:59:58 and no chance of noscript in it ;) Jul 10 07:59:59 you can't help but use it considering the alternatives Jul 10 08:00:10 i really liked rekonq Jul 10 08:00:16 but it's still a big flakey Jul 10 08:00:19 Macer: I use swiftfox now - sort of stripped down firefox Jul 10 08:00:20 bit Jul 10 08:00:37 never tried rekong..... Jul 10 08:00:46 i'd still rather use something that uses webkit Jul 10 08:00:48 rekonq -- even.... Jul 10 08:00:57 it's not bad.. but like i said... still a bit buggy Jul 10 08:01:09 personally i think on the liniux desktop side of the house kde is the best way to go Jul 10 08:01:25 they've done quite a lot with kde4.. it is something my 60 year old father can use without being confused Jul 10 08:02:02 Macer: I don't use kde or gnome, so I supppose rekonq is a no-no ? Jul 10 08:02:07 and rekonq is the kde browser.. but it needs work.. although i haven't used it in over a year.. they my have cleaned it up a bit Jul 10 08:02:21 naw.. you can install rekonq without using kde Jul 10 08:02:34 you'd have kdelibs and qt install of course Jul 10 08:02:50 :( Jul 10 08:02:53 i used to run it in fluxbox :) but wound up getting rid of it for chromium Jul 10 08:03:10 either way... i just run kubuntu and be done with it.. my server runs debian Jul 10 08:03:29 although i'm considering swapping over to freebsd for zfs once i get a motherboard working again Jul 10 08:04:01 i miss freebsd.. i meant to use it at first but the via nic chipset in the artigo i used to run just wouldn't work in fbsd :( Jul 10 08:04:36 ah well.. have to do stuff.... ttyl Jul 10 08:08:11 Jaffa: go look at license conditions of redistributable blobs for n9xx and it becomes apperant why it's a problem for a company to do, simple as that Jul 10 09:38:33 ping DocScrutinizer Jul 10 09:38:42 http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1235118&postcount=474 Jul 10 09:41:18 new update for kernel-power-modules v51 package, see ^^^ Jul 10 09:42:10 bq27x00_battery will export file /sys/class/power_supply/bq27200-0/registers Jul 10 10:00:24 asd. Anyone knows where the gcc-4.6 was for scratchbox? :) Jul 10 10:01:19 Zeq once told what to do but I didn't write the link up anywhere. Jul 10 10:05:17 Okay found it. (from logs) Jul 10 11:38:39 kerio, ping Jul 10 11:47:01 pong? Jul 10 11:47:04 sup Jul 10 11:59:21 kerio, I was trying to play with the backlight within a script the other day Jul 10 11:59:49 and while piping to sudo gainroot worked, sudo did not work Jul 10 12:00:08 maybe that's why so many packages depend on roots Jul 10 12:00:14 rootsh* Jul 10 12:00:18 *piping* to sudo gainroot? wtf Jul 10 12:00:54 sh -c "echo 0 /path/to/sysfolder/brightness" | sudo gainroot Jul 10 12:01:12 ...dafuq? that makes no sense Jul 10 12:01:13 sh -c '"echo 0 /path/to/sysfolder/brightness" | sudo gainroot' Jul 10 12:01:21 oh, i see Jul 10 12:01:32 that's an incredibly backwards way of doing that Jul 10 12:01:43 couldn't find any other one Jul 10 12:02:04 Now i'm thinking maybe developer (madde runs apps as developer) is not in sudoers Jul 10 12:02:05 echo 0 | sudo dd of=/sys/foo/bar/baz/brightness Jul 10 12:02:09 that's the usual standard way Jul 10 12:02:32 oh, thanks, didn't know that Jul 10 12:05:05 nah, user and developer are the same user Jul 10 12:05:16 ~$ sudo su developer Jul 10 12:05:23 ~$ whoami Jul 10 12:05:26 user Jul 10 12:19:40 Argh. Jul 10 12:19:53 lots of SGI graphics errors. Jul 10 12:20:00 SGX? Jul 10 12:20:20 I'm hoping it's damp - phone is now in oven baking at 60C for the next day or so. Jul 10 12:27:15 poor phone Jul 10 12:28:04 damn, that's nasty. Jul 10 13:32:50 god damned freenode banned my ass. Jul 10 13:33:20 merlin1991: ping Jul 10 13:44:42 vi__ dafuq? Jul 10 13:48:39 vi__: maybe they banned you because you keep pinging a dude who's in vacation in greece Jul 10 13:53:41 kerio: maybe they should ban you for being such a fert nugget. Jul 10 13:53:46 ^/fart Jul 10 13:54:13 MrPingu: My works pipes everything through a squid proxy. Freenode do not like proxies. Jul 10 13:56:52 vi__: even if you login to nickserv with the server password? Jul 10 14:58:25 hi all Jul 10 14:59:06 hello.. Jul 10 14:59:54 why all silent?? Jul 10 15:00:49 twinklstar: it'snormal Jul 10 15:01:19 it's silent until there's something interesting to say Jul 10 15:01:25 i ws logged in to listen sme chat Jul 10 15:01:32 oh Jul 10 15:01:36 I can confirm this. Jul 10 15:01:38 twinklstar: not much right now Jul 10 15:01:45 but it comes and goes Jul 10 15:01:52 people r w8ng fr smthng Jul 10 15:01:59 so the suggestion is: leave the window open, see what happens Jul 10 15:01:59 smthng interesting Jul 10 15:02:11 ya..k frnd.. Jul 10 15:02:14 uh? Jul 10 15:02:21 is that supposed to mean anything? Jul 10 15:04:04 whr i cn find sme infromation abt n900 file system? Jul 10 15:04:26 twinklstar: ls -lR Jul 10 15:04:27 SPEAK ENGLISH MOTHERFUCKER. Jul 10 15:04:28 >:D Jul 10 15:04:36 also that Jul 10 15:04:40 vi__: chill, though Jul 10 15:05:00 does anyone know if there's a way to configure fapman to always show all packages instead of just the user-serviceable ones? Jul 10 15:05:47 Few things rustle my jimmies harder than txt speak. Jul 10 15:11:20 kerio fapman, again Jul 10 15:11:21 * RiD giggles Jul 10 15:11:27 is it expected for fennec to be awfully slow? Jul 10 15:11:34 RiD: hey, the stock one is called ham Jul 10 15:11:41 burger Jul 10 15:20:57 yes, fennec sucks asses. Jul 10 15:21:37 Apparently the new version ported by FMG and zod is way faster, however you will have to wait till they are finnished. Jul 10 15:22:25 finnished, hah Jul 10 15:23:01 * kerio92 pictures them slowly turning into someone from helsinki Jul 10 15:23:18 hah Jul 10 15:23:25 finnish him! Jul 10 15:42:40 ping DocScrutinizer Jul 10 15:42:53 I have some problems with usb host mode Jul 10 15:43:28 I have usb hub which does not work in high speed mode Jul 10 15:43:51 as far as i know n900 can't do low speed mode Jul 10 15:44:26 if I choose full speed working fine Jul 10 15:44:38 but musb driver write to dmesg: Forced hostmode error: a high-speed device attached but not high-speed mode selected Jul 10 15:45:00 detection comes from musb_virthub.c Jul 10 15:45:29 it is bug in musb virhub code or some buggy usb hub? Jul 10 15:46:24 speed of usb hub is detected by musb_readb(mbase, MUSB_POWER) Jul 10 15:47:26 but speed detection of other usb devices (not hubs) is musb_procfs.c by function musb_ulpi_readb(mbase, ISP1704_DEBUG) Jul 10 17:05:47 did fmg fix cssu-thumb so it requires the kernel feature and not kernel-cssu? Jul 10 17:18:34 Pali: do you have the link to your KP51 post handy? Jul 10 17:19:28 kerio, from irclog: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1234313&postcount=445 Jul 10 17:19:39 Pali: i don't have an irclog :c Jul 10 17:19:59 kerio, see irc topic Jul 10 17:20:06 here is link for live log :-) Jul 10 17:20:12 yay Jul 10 17:22:01 hmm, why are we still on 2.6.28? Jul 10 17:23:10 Pali: anyway, i'm installing KP51 Jul 10 17:23:16 but i'm not happy for it :C Jul 10 17:24:40 Pali: should i full backup before installing? Jul 10 17:24:48 yeah, i should Jul 10 17:25:24 Hello Jul 10 17:29:29 Does the maemo-sdk-install_5.0.sh script work for you guys? Cause for me it hangs on "Setting up pulseaudio (0.9.15-1maemo43+0m5) ..." and segfaults Jul 10 17:42:06 hrmpf, my gcc has no stdio.h Jul 10 17:42:08 that's annoying Jul 10 17:42:14 what do i have to install? Jul 10 17:42:29 is there a "build-essential" package like in debian? Jul 10 17:43:44 I vaguely recall installing build-essential on my N800 Jul 10 17:46:39 oh god, i have 55MB free on my rootfs Jul 10 17:46:41 that's bad D: Jul 10 17:49:22 Pali: i hope you're happy, now my dpkg is yelling at me :( Jul 10 17:50:15 he's unhappy too Jul 10 17:51:45 look at this picture: http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5078/5813702602_6687fd0882_b.jpg Jul 10 17:51:47 meh, screw cleven Jul 10 17:51:57 people say the guy is using AN IPHONE for the leveling of the ad Jul 10 17:52:03 and that's VERY SAYD Jul 10 17:52:04 SAD Jul 10 17:52:26 why is it orange Jul 10 17:52:26 lol Jul 10 17:52:37 it's an orange bumper! Jul 10 17:52:44 white like that, it's either an iphone or a galaxy 3s Jul 10 17:52:45 it's an iPhone, isn't it Jul 10 17:52:46 either way... Jul 10 17:53:06 but it's not a Meego device... Jul 10 17:54:04 Well, meego devices don't exist? :P Jul 10 17:55:14 real Meego devices don't exist but I guess an N9 would have been enough for the job Jul 10 17:55:33 nobody actually bought a N9 Jul 10 17:55:38 a n900 would've been good enough Jul 10 17:55:55 hm, sometimes i get minor graphical glitches Jul 10 17:55:58 but they're in the loading of the theme, i think Jul 10 17:56:02 wtf is that about? Jul 10 17:56:22 I think few of #maemo bought N9 because of harmattan and missing keyboard? :P Jul 10 17:56:25 what do you mean nobody actually bought a N9? Jul 10 17:56:34 it is still being sold at stores here Jul 10 17:56:42 But then analysts and such claim that N9 outsells/outsold lumia Jul 10 17:56:43 Scorpius: 'twas a joke Jul 10 17:56:54 because of harmattan and missing keyboard, as ShadowJK said Jul 10 17:57:01 :S Jul 10 17:57:07 ShadowJK: HAH, like that's something to be proud of Jul 10 17:57:14 having a keyboard has a problem = weight Jul 10 17:57:19 physical keyboard is nice Jul 10 17:57:21 i think that my chest hair outsells lumia Jul 10 17:57:22 but a heavy phone is not Jul 10 17:57:25 and i'm not selling it Jul 10 17:57:48 I'm still ok with the N900 Jul 10 17:57:51 Well N900 still fits better in pockets than like Samsung Note Jul 10 17:57:52 :P Jul 10 17:57:52 n950 isn't that heavy Jul 10 17:59:38 Pali: might be a bug in virthub Jul 10 18:00:33 since afaik it's not all that easy to detect highspeed mode, hw can only detect lowspeed and full/high Jul 10 18:00:54 highspeed mode is weird Jul 10 18:01:12 I admit I forgat 50% of the details meanwhile Jul 10 18:01:41 Can anyone here help me with installing meamo sdk? Jul 10 18:02:12 anyway highspeed devices should support fullspeed fallback mode Jul 10 18:02:38 psotnick, try asking the question directly Jul 10 18:02:50 ~ask Jul 10 18:02:51 Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. Jul 10 18:03:13 against our will :) that's funny Jul 10 18:03:37 not really ;-P Jul 10 18:03:49 why is it so convoluted to call cpp functions from qml, I'm always spending the first hour of creating a new project with this Jul 10 18:04:13 then you should forget about QML and just code everything in Qt C++ Jul 10 18:04:35 that's what I do anyway :P Jul 10 18:04:37 Nah, worse. And not portable to harmattan Jul 10 18:04:49 oh well that's another thng. Jul 10 18:04:50 thing Jul 10 18:05:23 qwazix_: ECHAN? Jul 10 18:05:42 Ok, so I installed the scratchbox, added my user to the group etc and I ran maemo-sdk-install_5.0.sh, it downloaded some stuff, and tried to install it, but hang on Setting up pulseaudio (0.9.15-1maemo43+0m5) ..., after about 30mins it caught signal 11. Maybe anyone knows what can be wrong? Jul 10 18:06:24 you installed the scratchbox? Jul 10 18:06:27 the script does it all for you Jul 10 18:06:32 anyone with an N9 on PR1.3? Jul 10 18:06:34 including installing scratchbox Jul 10 18:06:44 psotnick: 64bit system? Jul 10 18:07:22 Scorpius: in tutorial it says to install it(Ubuntu section, I'm using Arch) first, so I installed it Jul 10 18:07:26 DocScrutinizer05: 32 Jul 10 18:07:28 oooh, actually Scorpius might be right too Jul 10 18:07:41 did you run the script as root? Jul 10 18:07:42 psotnick: 32 is good Jul 10 18:08:16 Scorpius: it says on wiki that I should run it as user Jul 10 18:08:42 psotnick: you read the wiki howto? Jul 10 18:09:04 (there are several iirc) Jul 10 18:09:09 I wonder what wiki you are reading. Jul 10 18:09:26 Run the scratchbox installer with root permission specifying the username to be added to scratchbox users group and sbox group. Jul 10 18:09:35 sudo ./maemo-scratchbox-install_5.0beta2.sh �u USER Jul 10 18:09:40 http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Final_SDK_Installation Jul 10 18:09:42 you typed exactly that? Jul 10 18:09:45 I'm following that Jul 10 18:10:07 hmm Jul 10 18:10:50 well Jul 10 18:10:56 Scorpius: your - is a ª Jul 10 18:11:00 why didn't you try the GUI installer? Jul 10 18:11:04 it's nicer Jul 10 18:11:14 I missed the '-u USER', I'll try to make it again Jul 10 18:11:14 sudo ./maemo-sdk-install-wizard_5.0.py <--- that's the GUI installer Jul 10 18:11:25 the -u USER is for the beta you're installing the stable one Jul 10 18:11:37 the wiki you're reading Jul 10 18:11:44 the first section "Starting installation with GUI installer" Jul 10 18:11:47 the GUI installer is said to be broken Jul 10 18:11:53 that's what I always use! Jul 10 18:12:02 I actually have never tried the text based installation Jul 10 18:12:17 I prefer text based stuff Jul 10 18:12:35 It usually has more info about problems and stuff Jul 10 18:12:42 your scratchbox is in /scratchbox ? Jul 10 18:12:55 the GUI has a big window with the log of everything it is doing Jul 10 18:13:04 don't worry about that Jul 10 18:13:30 also, remember that all package managers should be closed. Not apt-get running around somewhere or something like that Jul 10 18:13:59 the GUI installer installs everything for you (including scratchbox properly) Jul 10 18:14:03 and it has never failed on me Jul 10 18:15:04 also... Jul 10 18:15:22 I think the SDK only works in Debian based Linuxes, that is either Debian or Ubuntu Jul 10 18:15:27 you said you're using Arch? Jul 10 18:15:39 that could be a problem. Jul 10 18:15:47 Yes, but it worked for ppl on arch forum Jul 10 18:15:53 I see. Jul 10 18:17:45 Okay, I started GUI installer Jul 10 18:17:57 as root right? the GUI installer must be as root. Jul 10 18:17:58 I installed and used it on Suse11.3 Jul 10 18:18:00 Let's see if it works Jul 10 18:18:03 Yes, as root Jul 10 18:18:06 cool Jul 10 18:18:58 My connection is 2/1Mbps so I need to be patient :) Jul 10 18:19:11 be aware you need room for a 4GB /scratchbox dir Jul 10 18:19:35 maybe 5 Jul 10 18:19:46 I know, I've got something about 5 free Jul 10 18:20:04 in / Jul 10 18:20:14 NOT in /home Jul 10 18:20:29 I know Jul 10 18:20:37 since friggin scratchbox thinks it's smart to install to root Jul 10 18:20:45 Meanwhile: Hackers Steal Keyless BMW In Under 3 Minutes Jul 10 18:21:02 lol Jul 10 18:21:13 you got the weirdest of news : Jul 10 18:21:16 link please Jul 10 18:21:59 probably #reuters @ twitter Jul 10 18:22:55 wow. Jul 10 18:22:58 DocScrutinizer, sorry wasn't looking. What does _ECHAN mean? Jul 10 18:23:11 wrong channel? Jul 10 18:23:26 luckily you can move scratchbox later and symlink /scratchbox to that new path, at least. Jul 10 18:24:54 qwazix_: pseudo unix functioncall return code: -ECHAN Jul 10 18:25:21