**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jul 18 02:59:59 2012 Jul 18 03:52:47 hi there Jul 18 07:17:49 zeq: ping Jul 18 07:31:49 How to export contact head image? Jul 18 07:33:55 another question, contacts uses png to save the contact head image, can I change it to jpg? because the head image in the exported contact vcf can't be used in other phones, they expect a jpg head image Jul 18 07:40:09 LaoLang_cool: ImageMagick's convert for your last problem, i s'pose Jul 18 07:40:56 kerio, I don't understand, the png info has been encoded in the vcf file, how to decode it? Jul 18 07:42:16 there are software that can open vcf files Jul 18 07:42:26 that in itself is a hint Jul 18 07:43:08 psycho_oreos, vcf is a plain text, so any editor can open it... Jul 18 07:44:02 LaoLang_cool, except you wouldn't expect a vcf file to contain a readable form of the image for the selected contact no? Jul 18 07:44:04 I try to import the contacts with microsoft outlook, but outlook doesn't support png too, the head image is blank after imported Jul 18 07:44:34 psycho_oreos, any software recommended? Jul 18 07:44:36 so use imagemagic or whatever to convert it into jpg or whatever format outlook supports Jul 18 07:45:23 psycho_oreos, how to get the png file in vcf? Jul 18 07:45:54 LaoLang_cool, probably it may make life easier? unless you want to start hacking away a sed script that'll cut out where the lines contains information about the contact in image format (that's if you could find it easily) and then use appropriate software that can convert whatever format is the image into some other format? Jul 18 07:47:28 psycho_oreos, the png information in vcf has been transformed to text string, I can't get the png by copy the text string and save it into another file and rename it to foo.png Jul 18 07:48:23 Do I misunderstand you? Jul 18 07:48:45 LaoLang_cool, I admit that was a rather poor example.. but have you actually bothered to try looking for ways to actually read vcf files or are you just going to keep asking and hopefully someone will give you the correct answer? Jul 18 07:49:28 my point was to solely point out that unless you know what you're doing, you might as well try and look for a software first that might be able to do it for you Jul 18 07:50:19 i.e. there's no need to reinvent the wheel Jul 18 07:50:29 psycho_oreos, I failed with outlook, any other recommended? I can't find the software to read vcf and know the png in it Jul 18 07:51:02 Yes, looking for a software to understand png in vcf Jul 18 07:51:16 LaoLang_cool, there's always the search engine and there might be an option from kerio had you bothered to give that a try as well Jul 18 07:52:02 psycho_oreos, imagemagic is a image tool, not a vcf reader, I know kerio want me to convert png to jpg. Jul 18 07:54:19 LaoLang_cool, and here's the results from google: http://labs.brotherli.ch/vcfconvert/ Jul 18 07:54:20 ... Jul 18 07:55:15 The key is that I don't know how to or use which tool to read the vcf that use png to store the head image Jul 18 07:55:20 psycho_oreos, thank you, will try it :) Jul 18 07:55:49 that isn't the key when you have plenty of search engines to use Jul 18 07:56:09 vcf to csv? oh no... Jul 18 07:56:21 ... it is a drop down list fyi Jul 18 07:56:23 csv doesn't support head image info Jul 18 07:56:41 * psycho_oreos facepalms and disappears Jul 18 07:57:09 LaoLang_cool: maybe png in vcf is base64 data uri? Jul 18 07:57:33 qwazix_900, maybe, in vcf version 2 Jul 18 07:58:08 I prefer the version 3, I exported the contacts in version3, since it's human readable Jul 18 07:59:00 and how does v3 file look like if opened n text editor? Jul 18 07:59:00 I don't understand why maemo chooise png instead of jpg? Jul 18 07:59:18 qwazix_900, wait some minites, will paste it Jul 18 08:01:27 qwazix_900, here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/138693 Jul 18 08:01:36 oh, it's a jpeg type... Jul 18 08:01:49 I use a wrong example, sorry Jul 18 08:03:15 It looks like base64 Jul 18 08:03:27 regardless of format Jul 18 08:03:45 qwazix_900, ok, so how to convert it into a image file? Jul 18 08:04:31 I don't know what a format of base64 means at all :( Jul 18 08:04:36 you should write a script (preferably in php, which has a lot of functions to manipulate text and data URI's) Jul 18 08:04:54 that reads that big unreadable string Jul 18 08:05:12 qwazix_900, any existed tool? Jul 18 08:05:13 and saves it to a .png file Jul 18 08:05:21 I doubt it Jul 18 08:05:29 oh... Jul 18 08:05:59 but I can send you a code I wrote that takes an image from the clipboard and converts it to base64 to study Jul 18 08:06:29 you need to do the opposite, convert to jpg, reencode and replace Jul 18 08:06:46 qwazix_900, thank you, but I don't know programming at all... I should find a tool to read vcf and support the info of png in it Jul 18 08:06:58 shouldn't be more than 20 lines of code Jul 18 08:07:13 qwazix_900, is it a shell script? Jul 18 08:07:58 no php script, it doable in shell scripting too but the syntax is far more cryptic Jul 18 08:08:14 *is Jul 18 08:08:36 qwazix_900, ok, I don't even know how to run a php script... so I need to install a php? Jul 18 08:08:52 yes, do you run linux or win? Jul 18 08:09:02 qwazix_900, running windows xp sp3 Jul 18 08:09:16 oh, thing becomes complicated Jul 18 08:10:05 http://php.net/manual/en/install.windows.commandline.php Jul 18 08:10:38 sorry wrong link Jul 18 08:11:47 qwazix_900, thank you for you so kindly help! I think it's too complicated for me to understand.. Jul 18 08:12:02 I will try my best! Jul 18 08:12:32 http://windows.php.net/download/ Jul 18 08:12:57 or you can install wamp Jul 18 08:13:06 wamp? Jul 18 08:13:18 but it installs also apache and mysql which you won't need Jul 18 08:13:23 oh! Jul 18 08:13:26 too bloat... Jul 18 08:13:36 it contains php, and has an easy graphical installer Jul 18 08:13:47 uninstalls cleanly though Jul 18 08:13:54 qwazix_900, which version of php should I choose? Jul 18 08:14:08 (as cleanly as can any app uninstall in windows, that is) Jul 18 08:14:21 use 5.4 Jul 18 08:14:37 5.3 should be ok too (that's what I use) Jul 18 08:14:46 qwazix_900, VC9 x86 Non Thread Safe or VC9 x86 Thread Safe? Jul 18 08:14:52 I don't know what the name means... Jul 18 08:15:13 neither do I, but for your use it shouldn't matter Jul 18 08:15:46 it's something about having multiple php scripts running at the same time Jul 18 08:16:01 oh, will get VC9 x86 Non Thread Safe, since it's smaller ;p Jul 18 08:16:44 then you write a .php file and run it from cmd with php.exe yourfile.php Jul 18 08:16:57 check out the following commands Jul 18 08:17:07 qwazix_900, ok Jul 18 08:17:34 glob, preg_match, preg_replace, foreach, file_get_contents Jul 18 08:18:03 base64_decode Jul 18 08:18:28 file_put_contents Jul 18 08:19:01 that's about all you'll need Jul 18 08:19:13 qwazix_900, just 3 lines? Jul 18 08:19:38 no, I just gave you the commands you'll be needing Jul 18 08:19:54 you'll have to do some reading to see how to use them Jul 18 08:20:19 qwazix_900, ok Jul 18 08:21:36 qwazix_900, I will try it later, thank you for your kindly help! Jul 18 08:22:09 you 're welcome, and happy programming :) Jul 18 08:23:42 qwazix_900, I'm trying to find some online service, like http://www.base64decode.org/ Jul 18 08:24:41 qwazix_900, where is the encoding become? Is it the strings after 'PHOTO;TYPE=jpeg;ENCODING='? Jul 18 08:25:07 s/become/begin/ Jul 18 08:25:08 LaoLang_cool meant: qwazix_900, where is the encoding begin? Is it the strings after 'PHOTO;TYPE=jpeg;ENCODING='? Jul 18 08:35:00 LaoLang_cool: on linux you can use uudecode Jul 18 08:35:06 man uudecode Jul 18 08:36:59 DocScrutinizer05, where is the encoded text begin? in the example at http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/138693 Jul 18 08:37:35 will find if there is uudecode on maemo ;p Jul 18 08:37:45 where you assumed it begins Jul 18 08:39:09 well, on my maemo/N900 there is uudecode/uuencode Jul 18 08:39:11 DocScrutinizer05, say I can use uudecode to decode a file contain base64 string to a binary file: uudecode -i encode_file -o decode_file.png, so what should be in the encode_file in the sample at http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/138693 Jul 18 08:39:35 oh, no uudecode on maemo... Jul 18 08:39:59 DocScrutinizer05, oh, I have too, yeah Jul 18 08:40:28 it's a built-in cmd in busybox or busybox-power I guess Jul 18 08:40:41 probably Jul 18 08:41:57 according to manpage you need uudecode -m for base64 Jul 18 08:42:29 hmm, not on maemo Jul 18 08:43:13 DocScrutinizer05, I wil read the manpage, running uudecode -o foo.jpg base64file says uudecode: no 'begin' line Jul 18 08:44:46 well, that's a message relating to usual usecase for uuencoding: mails Jul 18 08:46:47 aiui you could e.g. do ~#echo 'your/encoded/datastring/after/ENCODING="|uudecode -o somefile.png Jul 18 08:47:01 or somefile.jpg Jul 18 08:47:15 DocScrutinizer05, sorry, need to be out for a while, will be back then :( Jul 18 09:08:41 freemangordon: ping Jul 18 09:08:45 freemangordon: PING Jul 18 09:08:55 freemangordon: PING PING PING PING PING PING! Jul 18 09:09:14 my n900 just... locked up Jul 18 09:09:20 except for the lock slider Jul 18 09:10:21 my Jul 18 09:10:24 n950 Jul 18 09:10:25 just Jul 18 09:10:27 arrived Jul 18 09:10:37 shipped in less than 20 hours from Finland. Jul 18 09:10:43 Now THAT is service! Jul 18 09:11:31 wat! Jul 18 09:11:37 I want one too :( Jul 18 09:11:58 LaoLang_cool: sorry was away. That is it yes Jul 18 09:12:22 Why did thay abandon this? Jul 18 09:12:32 This is the sexiest piece of hardware I have ever seen. Jul 18 09:12:34 vi_: i want one! Jul 18 09:12:39 It is all metal 'nd shit. Jul 18 09:12:40 goddammit Jul 18 09:13:02 kerio: Yours for only 2500 euros. Jul 18 09:13:17 done Jul 18 09:13:25 lol, really? Jul 18 09:13:31 i'll pay after i get it though Jul 18 09:13:33 Because I do not accept paypal. Jul 18 09:13:36 i want to make sure Jul 18 09:13:39 kerio: BWAHAHAHAAAAA! Jul 18 09:13:41 Nope. Jul 18 09:13:46 :c Jul 18 09:14:03 I say we go and mug vi_ Jul 18 09:14:27 (if we lose he gets to keep it) Jul 18 09:14:31 ;) Jul 18 09:14:41 I would like to see you try, Jul 18 09:15:02 there would be many of us! but seriously, where do you even get those in the first place? Jul 18 09:16:12 I won it. Jul 18 09:16:14 on ebay Jul 18 09:16:16 Surprisingly. Jul 18 09:16:26 Also, ebay. Jul 18 09:16:39 One just sold on ebay for 2000 euros! Jul 18 09:16:59 Some one paid £1500 GBP for one. Jul 18 09:17:07 i want one :( Jul 18 09:17:10 That is more than I get paid in a month AFTER tax. Jul 18 09:17:14 does fremantle run on it? Jul 18 09:17:36 hah, 2ke is a bit too much Jul 18 09:17:36 kerio: Nothing runs in it. It is COMPLETELY obselete. Jul 18 09:18:52 then... why? Jul 18 09:18:58 also does it run angry birds? Jul 18 09:19:48 DocScrutinizer05: How do I close stuff? Jul 18 09:20:45 vi_: remove the battery Jul 18 09:20:49 OH WAIT Jul 18 09:21:36 kerio: Yes, It does have a removeable battery. Jul 18 09:29:20 DocScrutinizer05: So what files does aegis actually 'protect' Jul 18 09:30:14 ~may-i-edit Jul 18 09:30:15 mayIedit () { grep "`basename $1`" /var/lib/aegis/refhashlist && echo "probably not" && return; echo "edit if you feel venturous"; } Jul 18 09:32:43 vi_: close: click&hold on taskswitcher screen Jul 18 09:33:11 or swipe from upside down (only works on newer OS rev) Jul 18 09:37:19 It'd be interesting to know who is putting their N950s on ebay, but I suppose with Nokia's now complete abandonment of Maemo/MeeGo they won't exactly be going Apple Gestapo on these people. Jul 18 09:39:06 hey, there are actually sell'able N950: the commercial DDP are 'locked' for only 6 months afaik, and the CA are a gift anyway Jul 18 09:40:58 so N950 probably is one of the rarest Nokia phones ever, alongside some diamond-covered silly things built by their luxury-spinoff Jul 18 09:42:12 freemangordon: pong Jul 18 09:42:57 I read an interesting thingy about Jolla, apparently jolla was created through an "incubator" program that Nokia setup after announcing the mass layoffs. Jul 18 09:43:18 bridge Jul 18 09:43:36 * DocScrutinizer05 heard the term "bridge" Jul 18 09:44:00 Termana: there's n950s on ebay? Jul 18 09:44:06 The bridge to get off the burning platform? Jul 18 09:44:35 wonder hwy I think of "wlaking the strake" on a ship when I hear that term Jul 18 09:45:04 teotwaki: I haven't personally seen any, but it was being discussed above that one sold on ebay for 2000 euros, another for 1500 GBP Jul 18 09:45:26 actually... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nokia-N950-dev-phone-/200789345222?pt=UK_Mobile_Phones&hash=item2ebffa43c6#ht_500wt_1413 Jul 18 09:45:28 500 quid Jul 18 09:45:41 I LOL'd at the question: Someone is asking for it to be sent to Finland... Jul 18 09:46:10 heh Jul 18 09:46:41 DocScrutinizer05: walking the plank? Jul 18 09:46:56 whatever the correct term Jul 18 09:47:07 ding left me in a pinch here Jul 18 09:56:18 vi_: me has a new toy too :D:D:D Jul 18 09:56:31 freemangordon: !!!! Jul 18 09:56:34 freemangordon: cool :) Jul 18 09:56:38 zeq: hi Jul 18 09:56:45 teotwaki: That guy has sold an N950 before. Jul 18 09:56:47 hi freemangordon Jul 18 09:56:52 where you've been man Jul 18 09:57:11 Or he has ripped off another advert Jul 18 09:57:25 vi_: but I am still unable to power it up Jul 18 09:57:27 I've somehow just been busy with other things. Jul 18 09:57:29 normal? Jul 18 09:57:39 freemangordon: Yes, the battery is utterly flat as fuck. Jul 18 09:57:47 You will need to charge it for some minutes. Jul 18 09:57:49 zeq: aahh, ok, glad to hear everything is ok on your side Jul 18 09:57:56 Also, remove the plastic that covers the screen. Jul 18 09:58:02 vi_: yeah, i thought the same Jul 18 09:58:14 vi_: are you kidding me? Jul 18 09:58:28 freemangordon: wrtw? Jul 18 09:58:39 for plastic cover Jul 18 09:58:47 So you guys like your N950s? Jul 18 09:58:49 zeq: romaxa commented on the bug Jul 18 09:58:50 The plastic sticker thing Jul 18 09:58:55 vi_: I know Jul 18 09:59:04 I am not THAT stupid Jul 18 09:59:07 :D Jul 18 09:59:18 zeq: it looks awesome Jul 18 09:59:31 freemangordon: It is beautyful hardware. Jul 18 09:59:32 freemangordon: I'll have to take a look. I didn't get around to attatching the cleaned up patches. Jul 18 09:59:35 Made of metal. Jul 18 09:59:39 powering up Jul 18 10:00:01 However I know it will never reach the levels of awesome that the N900 has. Jul 18 10:00:04 lucky bastards :-P Jul 18 10:00:16 I'll certainly buy a Jolla phone if they make one in a useful form factor, N900/N950 like. Jul 18 10:00:26 the screen is awful :( Jul 18 10:00:38 How so? Jul 18 10:00:46 the colors and so Jul 18 10:01:33 How do I know what software version it has? Jul 18 10:01:50 I have 1.2011.22-6_pr_rm680 Jul 18 10:02:07 Also, why no landscape! Jul 18 10:02:24 How do I get a root xterm? Jul 18 10:03:13 can you even get one, considering aegis exists? Jul 18 10:03:15 vi_: you're on Harmattan Beta 1 Jul 18 10:03:22 vi_: I remember reading you need to activate dev mode Jul 18 10:03:30 vi_: who exactly do you ask on #maemo? Jul 18 10:03:38 Well it says 'developer mode on everything. Jul 18 10:03:40 wrogn channel bro :P Jul 18 10:03:55 vi_: maybe you need to reboot? Jul 18 10:04:13 good point Jul 18 10:04:27 guys, you really probably would be better putting mer on it... Jul 18 10:04:34 ;) Jul 18 10:05:06 zeq: Does mer evern work? Jul 18 10:05:32 afaik Jul 18 10:05:49 With ALL the hardware? Jul 18 10:06:05 try it and see? Jul 18 10:06:20 freemangordon: What colour is your one? Jul 18 10:06:26 vi_: you're going to have to upgrade, IIRC the old repositories were pulled down as they went along. You're using a really old version, newer version don't have developer edition all over it. Once you have upgraded though you go to Settings -> Security -> Developer Mode, flick it on Jul 18 10:06:34 versions* Jul 18 10:07:01 zeq: I am afraid of the N950 becomming a massive time-hole for free time I just do not have. Jul 18 10:07:23 and then you can use devel-su and develsh to get root in the terminal it installs Jul 18 10:07:25 according to #mer it's one of their adapted platforms. How comprehensive the hw support is, I don't know Jul 18 10:09:17 vi_: black Jul 18 10:09:42 is there any (except with a hammer) way to disable the behavior of an n900 that it will start doing an refresh of the package list as soon as you connect to 3g? Jul 18 10:10:02 if necessary i want to disable doing automatic updates connected to any network at all Jul 18 10:11:07 i think it just flushed almost half of my datavolume (25MB) today just by connecting to 3g and in the background it probably started an "apt-get update" because it all of the sudden showed a warning that there is an update available for something ... Jul 18 10:11:09 Gh0sty, there's a wiki entry about this, its to do with gconf Jul 18 10:11:25 what is the password for devel-su? Jul 18 10:11:32 Gh0sty: gconftool -s --type int /apps/hildon/update-notifier/check_interval 99999999 Jul 18 10:12:12 oh i was expecting it was something dbus like that triggered updates when connected Jul 18 10:12:15 nice! Jul 18 10:12:18 thx Jul 18 10:13:59 Gh0sty, fyi: http://wiki.maemo.org/How_to_personalize_your_N900#Disabling_Auto_Updates_Check Jul 18 10:15:32 ok thx Jul 18 10:15:56 vi_: how am i supposed to check the amount of ram, storage space, etc? Jul 18 10:16:24 free Jul 18 10:16:28 df / Jul 18 10:16:32 df -h Jul 18 10:16:35 i dunno lol. Jul 18 10:16:43 ok, thanks Jul 18 10:16:46 :D Jul 18 10:18:23 ok, seems like 1G of RAM ang 16G storage Jul 18 10:18:46 on n9? Jul 18 10:19:08 950 Jul 18 10:19:18 ahh *nods* Jul 18 10:22:36 1G nice Jul 18 10:23:05 ! Jul 18 10:23:09 :( Jul 18 10:35:57 freemangordon: I've replied to romaxa. I need to go out now, I'll be back late afternoon. I'll try to stay online while travelling. Jul 18 10:36:13 zeq: ok Jul 18 10:44:26 freemangordon: I rebased fennec yesterday, it needs to be build with --disable-webrtc Jul 18 10:45:03 DocScrutinizer05, sorry for away, I've tested with the base64 string at http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/138693, save the string into a file basefile, then cat basefile | uudecode -o foo.jpg, still error: uudecode: no 'begin' line Jul 18 10:45:23 freemangordon: I rebased fennec yesterday, it needs to be build with "--disable-webrtc" Jul 18 10:45:40 qwazix_900, hi, sorry for away, a much easier way for me is arriving :) Jul 18 10:46:24 I think the base64 string starts with '/9j/4AAQSkZ'... Jul 18 10:47:53 freemangordon: updating... Jul 18 10:48:21 I am amused it still says meego on everything. Jul 18 10:58:45 vi_: yeah Jul 18 11:13:46 DocScrutinizer05, thank you! I success finally! a file of base64 must have a line like: "begin-base64 777 test", and end with a line "====" Jul 18 11:14:25 then it could be decoded with uudecode -o foo.jpg base64file Jul 18 11:14:36 qwazix_900, thank you too! Jul 18 11:19:13 holy shit updating takes forever. Jul 18 11:19:17 I am at 33% Jul 18 11:19:28 15% here :( Jul 18 11:19:35 in 33 minutes! Jul 18 11:19:53 yeah, it is sloooow Jul 18 11:20:18 This is the sexiest hardware I have ever seen. Jul 18 11:20:33 BTW iDont post on TMO that after the update he run into a bootloop, so be prepared Jul 18 11:20:33 It is a shame they did not make a case for it. Jul 18 11:20:51 vi_: yeah, really looks and feel good Jul 18 11:20:52 freemangordon: lame Jul 18 11:21:06 The aluminum is soooo smooth against my buttocks. Jul 18 11:21:55 chem|st: yo Jul 18 11:22:56 chem|st: Tell me what you tink of this thing... Jul 18 11:22:57 http://www.goldwingforum.nl/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=3046 Jul 18 11:23:06 ^thing Jul 18 11:36:45 hmm .nl Jul 18 11:36:55 looks like a motorcycle for people from the east of NL Jul 18 11:37:04 since we have asphalt in the west Jul 18 11:37:22 Lava_Croft: You do not understand. Jul 18 11:37:30 It is a honda goldwing. Jul 18 11:37:41 yes, i do understand Jul 18 11:37:46 hence my remark about asphalt:) Jul 18 11:37:46 A bike SOOO MASSIVE it has a double armchair and cup holders. Jul 18 11:37:52 i can read Dutch Jul 18 11:38:01 Here somone has turned it into an offroader. Jul 18 11:38:08 fair enough. Jul 18 11:38:20 the project itself is pretty nice indeed Jul 18 11:38:22 some fine work Jul 18 11:38:33 i was just making a silly remark about people in the east needing a motorcrossbike:) Jul 18 11:38:37 I think it is beautyful. Jul 18 11:38:44 its not my style Jul 18 11:38:52 but it sure looks like it doesnt take shit from nobody Jul 18 11:38:57 Lava_Croft: The irony is it would be the shittest offroad bike evr. Jul 18 11:39:03 naturally Jul 18 11:39:35 can vi also read dutch orso Jul 18 11:39:43 how do people end up on a dutchie goldwing forum Jul 18 11:41:09 vi_: just seen pictures a week ago or so.. Jul 18 11:41:17 vi_: BMW awesomness Jul 18 11:43:32 my dad told me about... Jul 18 11:45:41 he ordered one of these http://www.motorrad.net/sites/default/files/bilder_redaktion/news/2011/Horex.jpg though Jul 18 11:47:23 motorbikes are a good way to make use of the socialized healthcare in your country Jul 18 11:49:16 organ donors on wheelZ Jul 18 11:54:04 chem|st: It is called recycling. Jul 18 11:54:23 Although riding a motorcycle is 20 times LESS dangerous than horse riding. Jul 18 11:54:32 FACT. Jul 18 11:55:02 i use horses for dinner Jul 18 11:55:05 not for riding Jul 18 11:55:11 Lava_Croft: I found it because I often cruise the internet looking for crazy ass bikes, and that 'xr1500' was one of the most nuts I have seen. Jul 18 11:55:18 ah Jul 18 11:55:33 chem|st: Tell your father has fine taste! Jul 18 11:55:45 It looks like a new, slightly old school bike. Jul 18 11:56:02 ...and now my N950 will not boot. Jul 18 11:56:04 the bike chem|st linked is stylish indeed Jul 18 11:56:05 -_- Jul 18 11:56:09 you see this style of bikes more and more! Jul 18 11:56:32 much better than the standard old boring racing monster bike Jul 18 11:56:43 http://i.imgur.com/ofmiv.gif Jul 18 11:56:59 a good visualization of what happens to a lot of people who buy such a racemonster bike Jul 18 11:57:37 ... Jul 18 11:57:56 vi_: after updating? Jul 18 11:58:33 yes Jul 18 11:59:09 it has sat at the nokia screen for around 17 minutes. Jul 18 11:59:39 bootloader not updated properly? Jul 18 12:00:18 can you force it into flash mode like N900? Jul 18 12:01:25 I literally have no idea. Jul 18 12:03:09 Holy shit. Jul 18 12:03:15 It is a 1GB download... Jul 18 12:03:46 Thank goodness for my 5MB/s work connection. Jul 18 12:32:45 woot, it lives! Jul 18 12:32:55 1 click flasher - good science. Jul 18 12:41:04 oh yeah? where? Jul 18 12:41:10 i need to flash my n810 Jul 18 12:41:34 i wonder if i can run bare metal debian on it without a chroot Jul 18 12:51:45 Macer: flasher3.5 + an image from somewhere? Jul 18 12:52:12 ROFL Jul 18 12:52:15 wiki is down Jul 18 12:52:17 srly Jul 18 12:52:44 heh Jul 18 12:52:50 surprised maemo.org is even up Jul 18 12:52:59 figured the nokia penny pinchers would shut it down pretty soon Jul 18 12:53:12 or replace it with a MS Windows Server server ;) Jul 18 12:56:38 vi__: I'm currently facing the same problem :D Jul 18 12:59:55 heh Jul 18 13:00:11 they took the majesty that is maemo and have turned it into a dumbfone OS. Jul 18 13:00:24 Nothing has a 'close' button. Jul 18 13:00:38 I have to swipe this wayt and that. Jul 18 13:00:45 Then press and hold some shit Jul 18 13:00:52 THEN i can close stuff. Jul 18 13:01:09 I may as well be flapping at the screen like a spastic walrus. Jul 18 13:02:26 vi__: gestures are the future Jul 18 13:02:28 With stunted flippers. Jul 18 13:03:11 StyXman: Buttons are the future. Jul 18 13:04:30 vi__: are the past, but I agree that they're better Jul 18 13:04:46 I would kill for hardware answer/hang buttons Jul 18 13:05:49 So what is the easiest way to install easydebian? Jul 18 13:05:58 Is there a nice package like for the n900? Jul 18 13:06:19 I remember a package for that, but I never tried Jul 18 13:07:20 is there an equivalent of 'development' repositories? Jul 18 13:08:15 extras-devel? Jul 18 13:11:57 vi__: how long did the oneclickflasher take for you? Jul 18 13:12:06 like 30 minutes Jul 18 13:12:19 it has not hung at 'erasing,,,' do not worry! Jul 18 13:12:53 was just wondering, because the "erasing" step was way shorter when I flashed my n9 :D Jul 18 13:32:24 step1: remap this keyboard to be less gimpy. Jul 18 13:32:36 step2: install vim. Jul 18 13:33:09 vi__: found vim? Jul 18 13:33:36 no... Jul 18 13:55:46 has anyone managed to run armedslack on n900 with chroot scripts? Jul 18 13:57:09 Ariadeno: I do not think it has been tried. Jul 18 13:57:36 guess I have to try myself then.. Jul 18 14:07:19 As I said #harmattan, a flock of dicks Jul 18 14:09:37 vi_: Be careful they're watching you :P Jul 18 15:48:43 vi__: (maemo turned into....) couldn't agree more Jul 18 15:49:49 vi__: now you got an idea why i still use n900 and support cssu Jul 18 15:49:49 DocScrutinizer51: Still, the hardware is hot! Jul 18 15:49:58 sure Jul 18 15:50:06 DocScrutinizer51: Just gotta remap that dumbass keyboard. Jul 18 15:51:17 And whats with the busybox? Jul 18 15:51:23 Again? Jul 18 15:51:41 but don't tell anybody, or we won't be able to sell n950 eventually for 2kEUR Jul 18 15:52:00 I am seriously tempted. Jul 18 15:52:14 I could just about afford a down payment on a house then. Jul 18 15:52:28 A house>N950. Jul 18 15:53:27 otherwise n950 was strictly outdoor usage XP Jul 18 16:00:40 Heh, Raspi people ported Debian Linux as hard float on Raspi. "Raspbian" :P Jul 18 16:01:47 A friend of mine was showboating his Raspi the day before yesterday. It's funny when the RJ45 cable was heavy enough to pull the computer down the table. Jul 18 16:02:04 heh Jul 18 16:16:00 Raimu: and FishPi as well Jul 18 16:17:27 ZogG_laptop: Haha, yes. Jul 18 16:18:42 i have to wait few months till i get mine as iwas told on site i ordered. i hope the change in availability would boost things up Jul 18 16:23:52 heh, tried last night how long my weird and tiny thai phone could record voice, it didn't have a memory card so when mostly fully recharged I left it to record overnight and now that I looked at it it was still on at the recording screen, stopped and saying there's only 13s space left :) Jul 18 16:24:02 and there was a 13 hour, 55 min voice memo heh Jul 18 16:24:13 and one bar of battery still :) Jul 18 17:47:07 ZogG_laptop: I'm kinda good until I get mine in early autumn. All the software's still heavily in development and I have no problem waiting over the summer. Tech crap's better for winters, anyway, here in cold Finland. :P Jul 18 17:50:59 http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=worldwide.espacenet.com&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20120628&CC=US&NR=2012162119A1&KC=A1 <-- hmm Jul 18 17:52:15 They're... patenting scrollbars? Jul 18 17:53:19 Raimu, hide-away ones Jul 18 17:53:24 -_- Jul 18 17:55:17 -.- Jul 18 18:56:09 Raimu: the news saying now you can order more than one, you can order A model and no waiting. Jul 18 18:56:19 ruskie: ping Jul 18 18:57:52 *KLANG* Jul 18 18:58:07 ZogG_laptop, I thought they still only had B models Jul 18 18:58:24 * ruskie is happy with his RPi Jul 18 18:58:42 ruskie: sup, haven't talk to you ages =) Jul 18 18:58:54 hehe Jul 18 19:00:38 ruskie: i didn't finish scrobbler for you =( Jul 18 19:00:48 don't worry about it Jul 18 19:01:03 actually i feel bad about it =) Jul 18 19:01:07 don't Jul 18 19:01:36 maybe i'll get n900 from MohammadAG, than i'll be able to finish it and maybe improve/rewrite player Jul 18 19:02:10 heh Jul 18 19:02:31 I'm using a sandisk clip with rockbox as my primary portable music device anyway Jul 18 19:02:39 clip++ ! Jul 18 19:02:47 I have 4 of them :-) Jul 18 19:02:54 only 1 here Jul 18 19:03:03 ruskie: i have n950, i need to find time to set scratchbox and port xmms2 to it Jul 18 19:03:06 hello, i'm disassembling my n900 to try and fix the USB port, it started with false contacts today Jul 18 19:03:06 but have 2 pebbles and a 2g shuffle Jul 18 19:03:16 I'm using 2 of them permantently mounted in the car Jul 18 19:03:21 hehe Jul 18 19:03:25 ruskie: as well as i want remote controler/client for n9 Jul 18 19:03:29 anyone know of some useful resource for this? Jul 18 19:03:39 (there's rockbox for n900...) Jul 18 19:03:42 guampa, I believe there's something on tmo Jul 18 19:04:00 guampa: be carefull, there is huge thread on TMO on how to fix it Jul 18 19:04:16 guampa: but be carefull with expo if you use it, i killed my n900 this way Jul 18 19:04:19 TMO? Jul 18 19:04:26 ~tmo Jul 18 19:04:26 i heard tmo is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TMO, or http://talk.maemo.org, or http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrestrial_Trunked_Radio#TMO. It's *not* T-MO (see ~T-MO) or trolls, morons, oxen. Jul 18 19:04:29 right now i have two halves joined by a thin ... ehhh Jul 18 19:04:45 dunno how its spelled Jul 18 19:04:57 flex cable? Jul 18 19:04:57 ~T-MO Jul 18 19:04:58 extra, extra, read all about it, t-mo is T-Mobile Jul 18 19:04:58 oh, great, thanks Jul 18 19:05:02 guampa: check talks.maemo.org - search for usb fix or something Jul 18 19:05:02 ruskie: that Jul 18 19:05:08 ok Jul 18 19:06:42 japh, I'd prefer something with a bit more remote control for incar use... but I do use it at times Jul 18 19:06:56 about patent, may i patent the "patenting troll"? Jul 18 19:07:42 ruskie: have you seen the WIP of android xmms2 client? Jul 18 19:07:43 ruskie, I control the clip from the steering wheel... no searching or so obviously, just next/prev/die/play etc Jul 18 19:08:06 japh, steering wheel controls? or just attached there? Jul 18 19:08:10 in the work car I'm still using the n900, mplayer + transmit over fm Jul 18 19:08:15 controls Jul 18 19:08:22 ah Jul 18 19:08:24 I don't have those Jul 18 19:08:34 I can mount usb thing in the ... console thingy between the seats Jul 18 19:08:38 not sure what it's called Jul 18 19:08:40 heh Jul 18 19:08:42 in car you can use radio =) Jul 18 19:09:14 for some reason in my own car that doesn't work very well Jul 18 19:09:26 it works great in work car, though. Jul 18 19:12:53 freemangordon: hows the n950 FMG? Jul 18 20:17:43 [2012-07-18 17:52:28] A house>N950. a RAZR>a car ;-P http://www.geekologie.com/2007/10/using-phone-while-driving-kill.php Jul 18 20:24:13 as a motorcyclist I can say, I do not agree with using telephones while driving. Jul 18 20:25:19 DocScrutinizer06: have you tried mer yet? Jul 18 20:25:38 or nemo Jul 18 20:25:51 or whatever they are calling itthese days. Jul 18 20:31:13 heh, one guy at work told he listened to irc as morse code while driving motorbike Jul 18 20:31:41 not sure if he had an input device on that, but I think he had some keyboard in the car wheel Jul 18 20:32:02 (or a slot for a communicator or so) Jul 18 20:39:01 What kind of thumb issue did the CSSU Testing 4.1 fix? Jul 18 20:40:00 there were 2 packages that were wrongly compiled as thumb Jul 18 20:40:19 and as we know, on stock maemo5 thumb binaries crash from time to time Jul 18 20:40:29 kgu: ^^ Jul 18 20:42:52 ahh, thanks for clarifying Jul 18 20:45:38 rtcom-messaging-ui is closed source, right? I wonder if the database mismatch issue for SMS could be fixed Jul 18 21:24:55 OK :-( Jul 18 21:25:05 oops, ECHAN Jul 18 21:29:54 DocScrutinizer06 why 06? why not 05? Jul 18 21:29:59 * RiD runs Jul 18 21:30:17 i miss DocScrutinizer51 mostly Jul 18 21:30:29 he was good guy Jul 18 21:30:34 he? Jul 18 21:30:44 ~seen DocScrutinizer51 Jul 18 21:30:47 docscrutinizer51 is currently on #maemo #harmattan #openmoko #maemo-ssu #qi-hardware #openmoko-cdevel. Has said a total of 128 messages. Is idling for 1h 46m 12s, last said: 'fine, just need to come home'. Jul 18 21:31:26 oh DocScrutinizer05 i know you are good at HW Jul 18 21:32:17 DocScrutinizer05: n950's cpu is armv7a right? Jul 18 21:34:34 no it's armv11. slow. Jul 18 21:34:36 * RiD runs Jul 18 21:36:23 ZogG_laptop: it's the same CPU as in N9 Jul 18 21:39:32 DocScrutinizer05: which would be the one i told above right? Jul 18 21:45:49 Best line ever... Laughed my ass off: I may as well be flapping at the screen like a spastic walrus. Jul 18 21:48:08 spastic walrus!! :D Jul 18 21:48:57 LOL Jul 18 21:49:18 I wouldn't have bothered to answer if it wasn't for that line Jul 18 21:49:23 :-D Jul 18 21:51:19 Woody14619: sup Jul 18 21:55:32 wak wak Jul 18 21:57:03 Best line ever. :) Jul 18 21:58:10 ZogG_laptop: not much... waiting between test runs. (I really need to shorten this setup routine, or at least try to init separate hardware bits in parallel where I can... I hate inherited code. :P Jul 18 21:59:03 Woody14619: so, how is OBS progress going? Jul 18 22:05:55 Zogg_laptop: no update or real progress since the last meeting. We're working on another project right now to lower x-fade's workload. Between that and javispedro being back from his trip, we may see progress and an update soon though (I hope. :) Jul 18 22:08:59 what another project? Jul 18 22:11:08 No, taking over some of the maint issues so he has more time for other things. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jul 19 02:59:58 2012