**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Aug 02 02:59:59 2012 Aug 02 03:13:18 DocScrutinizer: infobot joined! Aug 02 04:48:10 Estel_, completed a few tests. Chargerate 1250 vs 950 results a few months ago. Difference in chargetime 1250mA: 2 hours 12 minutes, 950mA: 2 hours 17 minutes Aug 02 04:48:13 :P Aug 02 04:48:16 redoing 950 Aug 02 06:09:08 DocScrutinizer05: 23:12 < DocScrutinizer05> vi__: what's with zeq's device? Aug 02 06:10:36 read [call to arms!] post on tmo. check your TMO PMs. Paypal me that 20 euro. I am hoping to pick it up this friday, probably mail it saturday. Aug 02 07:52:26 DocScrutinizer05: ping Aug 02 07:52:30 DocScrutinizer51: ping Aug 02 07:52:37 doc|home: ping Aug 02 07:55:30 vi_: ? Aug 02 07:57:37 doc|home: Guten tag! Aug 02 07:57:49 Did you read the thread [call to arms!]? Aug 02 07:57:55 and your PMs? Aug 02 07:58:55 vi_: I think you have me confused with someone else Aug 02 08:00:17 DocScrutinizer? Aug 02 08:00:46 haha Aug 02 08:01:05 doc|home!=docScrutinizer? Aug 02 08:01:21 I understand. Aug 02 08:01:27 Please carry on with your day. Aug 02 08:14:34 * jonwil doubts that there is anyone out there who can figure out this sim related stuff I have been trying to figure out (function calls in libconnui-cell which lead to dbus messages which lead to ISI messages) :'( Aug 02 08:24:29 vi_: how did it go? recieved all the pledges yet? Aug 02 08:25:10 s/recieved/received/ Aug 02 08:25:11 qwazix meant: vi_: how did it go? received all the pledges yet? Aug 02 08:25:58 ~botsnack Aug 02 08:25:59 qwazix: thanks Aug 02 08:31:28 jonwil: If anyone can, it is you! Aug 02 08:31:37 I believe in jonwil! Aug 02 08:31:51 The reverser we need. Aug 02 08:31:52 I have run out of options Aug 02 08:32:00 But not the reverser we deserve :( Aug 02 08:32:11 I have tried every trick in the book Aug 02 08:32:15 qwazix: There is still one pledge to be paid. Aug 02 08:32:27 I am hoping to pick it up tomorrow. Aug 02 08:32:33 Then mail it on saturday. Aug 02 08:32:39 zeq: ping Aug 02 08:32:42 the problem stems from not knowing what the cellular modem passes back to userspace as part of these messages Aug 02 08:33:14 qwazix: You asked yesterday about smart reflex. Aug 02 08:33:38 specifically how to permanently turn it on. Aug 02 08:34:07 vi_: nice, if it doesn't come through, I can chip in up to 20 Aug 02 08:34:15 cheers bro! Aug 02 08:34:34 about sr, I modified pmconfig Aug 02 08:34:34 qwazix: The best way to turn on SR is to edit /etc/pmconfig Aug 02 08:35:22 yep, I asked because there was a seperate entry for kernel power in the wiki without instructions Aug 02 08:36:10 maybe I should delete that? It's confusing and not very helpful anyway Aug 02 08:36:19 qwazix: link please. Aug 02 08:36:24 w8 Aug 02 08:37:19 http://wiki.maemo.org/Smartreflex#Terminal Aug 02 08:38:25 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-461703/Whale-survives-harpoon-attack-130-years-ago-worlds-oldest-mammal.html Aug 02 08:39:17 ...I wrote that article. Aug 02 08:39:32 It explains in very simple terms at least 3 ways of enabling smart reflex. Aug 02 08:39:41 It also explains what SR is. Aug 02 08:40:00 does it explain how to fix it Aug 02 08:40:02 No, 4 ways. Aug 02 08:40:10 jacekowski: Hah hah! Aug 02 08:40:43 I am talking about the line "Assuming you are using Kernel Power the instruction for use are:- " Aug 02 08:41:08 I did not write that bit. Aug 02 08:41:10 and there is a link to a page where smartreflex is not mentioned at all Aug 02 08:41:17 I thought it was ass as well. Aug 02 08:41:30 That is what I propose we should delete Aug 02 08:42:43 vi_: pong Aug 02 08:43:13 jacekowski: what needs to be fixed in smartreflex in KP/KCSSU? Is there any bug I am not aware of? Aug 02 08:46:25 qwazix: vi_: are you going to update wiki article about OC/SR? Aug 02 08:48:17 freemangordon: If vi agrees I can remove that unhelpful line Aug 02 08:49:47 it will be good if someone updates both that and KP documentation, esp the deprecated profiles Aug 02 08:50:04 Hi, how to copy a conversation? Aug 02 08:50:23 push-n-hold Aug 02 08:50:38 iirc Aug 02 08:51:26 freemangordon: I'm not an overclocker so I'd better not mess with the profiles. Other than removing the line I mentioned above what else should be modified re SR Aug 02 08:51:34 zeq: Can you email me your postal address please? Aug 02 08:52:03 p Aug 02 08:52:04 s Aug 02 08:52:05 l Aug 02 08:52:05 e Aug 02 08:52:06 g Aug 02 08:52:08 g Aug 02 08:52:10 s Aug 02 08:52:13 @ Aug 02 08:52:15 g Aug 02 08:52:18 m Aug 02 08:52:21 a Aug 02 08:52:23 i Aug 02 08:52:25 l Aug 02 08:52:28 . Aug 02 08:52:31 c Aug 02 08:52:33 o Aug 02 08:52:36 m Aug 02 08:53:00 qwazix: lemme check Aug 02 08:53:07 freemangordon: It is a tough on. The whole power kernel/overclock/SR articles need an overhaul. Aug 02 08:53:17 vi_: yes, i know Aug 02 08:53:30 freemangordon: I wrote that article on SR, however it has been edited to include faggotry. Aug 02 08:54:00 I'm tempted to create a crawler in php that tries to retrieve mail addresses circumventing every new creative snti-spam method I encounter Aug 02 08:54:04 qwazix: "Using the stock Nokia kernel it can only be activated up to 805MHz at most" is incorrect Aug 02 08:54:22 not to say bullshit Aug 02 08:54:42 first of all you cannot clock stock kernel to 805 Aug 02 08:55:00 haha ofcourse... Aug 02 08:55:02 vi_: done Aug 02 08:55:03 and SR is supported in driver up to 600 Aug 02 08:55:06 :D Aug 02 08:55:07 hadn't noticed Aug 02 08:55:30 zeq: cheers zeq. Aug 02 08:55:57 freemangordon: 'Traditionally' It would only work up to around 805MHz on stock nokia kernel. Aug 02 08:56:07 For some people, lower for others. Aug 02 08:56:23 805MHz was the value reported by kernel-config. Aug 02 08:56:24 vi_: how the fuck you run stock @ 805? Aug 02 08:56:30 freemangordon: ok I'll reread and edit out any obvious bs Aug 02 08:56:34 Very good point. Aug 02 08:56:40 DERP Aug 02 08:57:07 What it actually should say is prior to you fixing the driver, it would work upto 805MHz. Aug 02 08:57:19 WITH PK. Aug 02 08:57:45 also even for KP, the range it is rock-stable is 125-600, you are not guaranteed above that Aug 02 08:57:59 if DSP is OC that is Aug 02 08:58:39 if DSP is not OC, you should be ok for the rang 125-900 Aug 02 08:58:50 freemangordon: in whick kp version was the driver fixed? Aug 02 08:58:52 *range Aug 02 08:59:23 qwazix: 49 or 50 iirc, but let it be 50, just in case Aug 02 08:59:32 anyway you cannot install 49 from extras Aug 02 09:00:07 kk, but due to pre-palis' uboot situation many dualbooters are on old kp's Aug 02 09:00:42 ok, lemme check Aug 02 09:00:47 too much hassle to build combined images and flash each time a new kp is out Aug 02 09:02:03 qwazix: it is 50, 49 is not guaranteed to be stable. from KP50 changelog "* efuse calibrations are re-calculated - using linear approximation instead of hard-coded increments" Aug 02 09:02:29 freemangordon: ok, going to edit now Aug 02 09:02:37 thanks a lot Aug 02 09:03:22 btw, you have raised the bar for fennec yourselves pretty high, thumb microb is ultra-fast Aug 02 09:03:32 qwazix: I know :D Aug 02 09:03:47 but that is a good think after all Aug 02 09:03:56 thing even Aug 02 09:04:20 * jonwil wishes the microb UI was open, I bet thumb microb-UI would be even better :P Aug 02 09:04:49 qwazix: re SR wiki: that GUI at the end, does it work? Aug 02 09:05:44 with new clocking scheme? anyone tried it? QCPUFreq that is Aug 02 09:07:03 freemangordon: no idea, I can give it a try, but how would I know if it actually worked? Aug 02 09:07:42 [on stock nokia kernel] it has been reported to be unstable on some devices Aug 02 09:07:53 is the above statement correct? Aug 02 09:07:55 well, my point was that we ether know it works and recommend it or remove it from wiki article ;) Aug 02 09:08:20 let me install qcpufreq and see Aug 02 09:08:43 vi_: is that you that wrote the recommended GUI (QCPUFreq) in wiki article for SR? Aug 02 09:11:27 freemangordon, it seems to work Aug 02 09:11:30 cat /sys/power/sr_vdd1_autocomp Aug 02 09:11:38 1 Aug 02 09:11:49 then changed it through gui Aug 02 09:11:53 freemangordon: hey, I want to try out the thumb cssu, is it supposed to be safe to do it in a non-clean, just flashed, device? I've seen a lot of people in the thread that said they flashed the device before doing it, which makes me wonder Aug 02 09:12:02 and cat /sys/power/sr_vdd1_autocomp outputted 0 Aug 02 09:13:10 luca_: should be ok, last time i flashed my primary phone was half an year ago. And I am using -thumb on it as you may imagine :) Aug 02 09:13:12 luca_: it is, but make a full backup with backupmenu anyway Aug 02 09:13:36 qwazix: well, ok, leave it that way then Aug 02 09:13:37 but if you enable it back it turns only vdd1 on which I remember to be true Aug 02 09:13:49 luca_: but please, use HAM Aug 02 09:13:58 kerio: yeah, doing so right now Aug 02 09:14:15 qwazix: aah, so it is not the correct GUI then, better remve it Aug 02 09:14:27 freemangordon: yeah, I read your several posts praying the users to use it :D Aug 02 09:15:31 freemangordon: No, I did not add the bit about qcpufreq. Aug 02 09:15:43 qwazix: leaving some note "several guis exist, edit here if you know the one that works for both VDD1 and VDD2" Aug 02 09:16:59 luca_: yeah, but me begging them does not seem to help, as there are still "gurus" like kerio using apt-get :P Aug 02 09:17:09 qwazix: TY qwaz Aug 02 09:17:29 fu Aug 02 09:17:30 :c Aug 02 09:17:48 see http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1157835&postcount=180 Aug 02 09:17:57 HAM takes **12 minutes** to start working, for me Aug 02 09:19:48 kerio: I don't care if it takes not 12 but 24 minutes, this is how it should be done. And I can bet you can just leave it in background while doing other things with your device Aug 02 09:20:36 no, because it's 12 minutes of 100% cpu Aug 02 09:21:00 btw, I think I already commented this problem here, but I didn't get a good answer and google and some DD friends couldn't help me either, so here is it again: Aug 02 09:21:09 kerio: OH GAWD. YOU WILL HAVE TO FIND SOMTHING THAT IS NOT YOUR N900 TO DO FOR 12 MINUTES. Aug 02 09:21:10 free Aug 02 09:21:12 er Aug 02 09:21:14 FML Aug 02 09:21:23 I'm uploading my first maemo app and I'm getting an error in the builder but just for i386 Aug 02 09:21:29 freemangordon: besides, apt works fine for me Aug 02 09:21:54 and for a long time i had been just using thumb2 binaries without the mp Aug 02 09:21:58 kerio: Then you have no recourse when we rip on you when your device is broken. Aug 02 09:22:03 dpkg-genchanges: error: cannot read files list file: No such file or directory Aug 02 09:22:09 If you use apt, your IRC warrenty is broken. Aug 02 09:22:23 debian/files is not included in the repo, as the debian mantainers guide mandates Aug 02 09:22:59 and when building on armel, the file is properly generated by dpkg-genchanges Aug 02 09:23:09 why could this be not working for i386? Aug 02 09:23:26 (I never tried to build my package for i386) Aug 02 09:24:39 luca_: try it then, just switch the target Aug 02 09:25:02 * freemangordon is afk for a while Aug 02 09:30:37 freemangordon: change the target where? Aug 02 09:34:50 luca_: in scratchbox Aug 02 09:34:53 freemangordon: but if dpkg-genchanges don't generate the debian/files file I'm screwed, what can I do about it? :S Aug 02 09:35:25 * freemangordon expects luca_ is using scratchbox Aug 02 09:36:04 luca_: run "sb-menu" and select FREMANTLE_X86 target Aug 02 09:36:09 freemangordon: I am, but I setted it up a long time ago and don't remember how to change the arch, I'll refresh my memory :) Aug 02 09:36:24 freemangordon: ok, that was easier than start googleing :P Aug 02 09:38:19 ok, it wasn't *that* easy, is asking a lot of stuff and ask me to install some rootstrap Aug 02 09:38:35 what? Aug 02 09:38:51 no, don't do that Aug 02 09:39:02 use "select target" from the menu Aug 02 09:39:21 yeah, I think I selected the wrong option, setup instead of select Aug 02 09:39:32 I switched now, building Aug 02 09:39:35 :) Aug 02 09:39:42 * freemangordon is afk Aug 02 09:42:02 worked locally (dpkg-buidpackage Aug 02 09:42:03 ) Aug 02 09:43:06 how can I convince the builder that this should work? :P Aug 02 09:43:14 and why is i386 being built at all? Aug 02 09:47:23 freemangordon, vi_, please see http://wiki.maemo.org/Smartreflex Aug 02 09:51:14 fuck fuck fuck a doodle doo. Aug 02 09:51:35 Why is it that the best libraries are bloody GPL, or 10 grant. Aug 02 09:51:43 s/ant/and/ Aug 02 09:51:44 teotwaki meant: Why is it that the best libraries are bloody GPL, or 10 grand. Aug 02 09:52:35 * teotwaki is seriously considering hacking a GPL-circumvention mechanism into his project. Aug 02 09:52:46 what library do you need? Aug 02 09:52:52 ODB> Aug 02 09:52:59 s/>// Aug 02 09:53:00 teotwaki meant: ODB Aug 02 09:55:23 gtg, low battery Aug 02 09:55:40 My project is a C++ application server, which is defined by the modules it loads. By default, it doesn't provide anything, except for the ability to load components. Aug 02 09:56:41 I think that I'm going to add the feature that if the module that is being loaded is GPL, it is spawned into its own process/context (or sent to the GPL-enabled context for loading). IPC is done over ZMQ, so there is no tainting involved. Aug 02 09:59:27 freemangordon: ok, I'll start the update, I have installed KP 51r1 but uname just says 2.6.28.10-power51, is that ok or even when I have installed the r1 kernel is not the one being booted? Aug 02 09:59:56 I guess from the date in uname (Jul 23) it is r1 Aug 02 10:01:47 * jonwil wonders if there is anyone in the community that understands netlink or libnl Aug 02 10:02:07 * jonwil wonders if there is anyone in the community who has any interest in rewriting the wl1251 driver to not use netlink Aug 02 10:19:17 freemangordon: I'm upgrading from the stable cssu and I don't see any Community SSU icon on the applications menu, is that ok? Aug 02 10:42:16 kerio: maybe you know? should I proceed with the update even if the Community SSU icon is not present in the applications menu? Aug 02 11:13:19 freemangordon: ping? Aug 02 11:18:45 ok, I am going to go out and buy some supplies for tonights all-night Maemo hacking and IRC-chatting session, I need some caffeine for this task :) Aug 02 11:27:00 Hi all - what's the best way to go about installing rsync on my n900? Aug 02 11:27:08 (given it's rooted etc) Aug 02 11:27:21 I found this - http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/rsync/ Aug 02 11:27:27 But I'm unsure of what to do with that file Aug 02 11:27:41 I figure I should be looking for a .deb? Aug 02 11:28:11 How big does size of maemo source have? Aug 02 11:32:02 narcos: It should be available from the repositories. Aug 02 11:32:06 Just apt-get it. Aug 02 11:34:04 vi_: Nokia-N900:~# apt-get install rsync Aug 02 11:34:04 E: Couldn't find package rsync Aug 02 11:34:18 vi_: Where do I see a list of repos configured for my device? Aug 02 11:36:17 vi_: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Ka8HvGLF Aug 02 11:36:33 (or anyone else who feels like helping :) ) Aug 02 11:40:06 I see rsync listed in http://repository.maemo.org/extras/dists/fremantle/free/binary-armel/Packages Aug 02 11:40:39 and according to my paste of repos above I think that should be included....? Aug 02 11:42:24 I guess I could dpkg install http://repository.maemo.org/extras/pool/fremantle/free/r/rsync/rsync_3.0.4-3maemo3_armel.deb Aug 02 11:49:09 Hmm Aug 02 11:58:39 My friend with an N900 can apt-get install rsync. WTF have I done to mine. Aug 02 11:59:46 After doing a dpkg -i of the above .deb file, and trying rsync, I get the error: Aug 02 11:59:47 sh: rsync: not found Aug 02 11:59:47 rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (0 bytes received so far) [sender] Aug 02 11:59:47 rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(632) [sender=3.0.4] Aug 02 12:00:03 (but I can ssh to the box I want to rsync to) Aug 02 12:03:41 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/08/02/interdigital_nokia_patent_spat_revived/ <-- hmm Aug 02 12:05:58 Hmm - when I start the GUI package manager and select 'Download' I get the error "Application list partially refreshed. Some catalogues unavailable. Check catalogue details" Aug 02 12:07:19 ok, caffeine acquired. Time to start on my all-night Maemo-hacking-and-IRC-chatting session Aug 02 12:08:43 :) Aug 02 12:11:57 narcos: 1. install fapman Aug 02 12:12:15 narcos: 2. Enable 'extras repository' (google it) Aug 02 12:12:49 narcos: 3. start fapman, install rsync Aug 02 12:13:40 vi_: I think I already have the extras repo - http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Ka8HvGLF Aug 02 12:14:05 So, it seems I can't apt-get install anything Aug 02 12:15:03 what is the result of apt-cache search rsync? Aug 02 12:16:25 Possibly rsync is in extras-devel Aug 02 12:16:39 enable extras-devel and try apt-get install rsyn again. Aug 02 12:16:40 hmmm, now I gotta decide what which N900 thing to work on next Aug 02 12:16:52 vi_: No results for apt-cache search rsync Aug 02 12:17:07 narcos: enable extras-devel Aug 02 12:17:33 jonwil: recently I started to RE vkbrenderer.so Aug 02 12:17:52 * vi_ munch crunch Aug 02 12:18:18 anything interesting? Aug 02 12:18:55 jonwil: there is x86 version in SB, hexrays decompiled looks possible to RE Aug 02 12:19:07 yes that I know Aug 02 12:19:18 though I didn't get much further, lack of time, you know Aug 02 12:19:52 ok Aug 02 12:20:03 nothing new actually. Aug 02 12:21:02 vi_: I'm Googling but not finding - how I do I go about adding extras-devel? Aug 02 12:22:44 luca_: no, i started from a cssu-testing install Aug 02 12:25:40 narcos: deb http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/ fremantle free non-free Aug 02 12:27:47 Thinking about whether to do wl1251 stuff, icd-wlan stuff, systemui stuff or something else... Aug 02 12:28:58 jonwil: yes! Aug 02 12:29:25 not sure which of those items I should do... Aug 02 12:29:37 vi_: Hmm, running and 'apt-get update' seems to have sorted everything out. Aug 02 12:29:38 jonwil: systemui Aug 02 12:30:01 nobody seems to have any clue how that works. Aug 02 12:30:16 narcos: good Aug 02 12:30:20 i.e. I can how apt-get install rsync (without adding the extras devel) Aug 02 12:30:20 hmmm, well I did document parts of the systemui for the touchscreen/keypad lock Aug 02 12:30:26 i.e. the side flick button Aug 02 12:30:38 not sure where I can go from there Aug 02 12:31:14 hmmmm Aug 02 12:31:26 perhaps you could hack the gibson? Aug 02 12:31:32 :P Aug 02 12:31:57 or somthing a little larger maybe? Aug 02 12:32:02 The planet for example. Aug 02 12:33:19 I was planning to do N900 stuff only :P Aug 02 12:35:59 ok, so what N900 work should I do then? :P Aug 02 12:36:42 jonwil: mce? :P Aug 02 12:37:44 I already gave up on MCE Aug 02 12:37:47 its too complex :P Aug 02 12:38:05 I could do wl1251 stuff or icd-wlan stuff or connectivity Aug 02 12:38:09 connectivity UI stuff Aug 02 12:38:44 wwll, why not, after all no matter what it is, it is one less closed source piece Aug 02 12:42:44 hi. is there any working sharing plugin for imgur (or other good image hosting)? the obvious one http://maemo.org/packages/view/imgur/ always fails to upload ... Aug 02 13:06:03 hello Aug 02 13:06:54 I am trying to copy root filesystem to mmc Aug 02 13:07:31 anyone here to guide me trough? Aug 02 13:08:25 I followed http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=444600&postcount=45 from fanoush, but ot won't boot up.. Aug 02 13:35:00 hello, am trying to copy root filesystem to mmc, according to http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=444600&postcount=45 Aug 02 13:35:21 anyone has experience with that? Aug 02 13:36:28 ~m32g Aug 02 13:36:32 no, wait Aug 02 13:36:37 ~m32gb Aug 02 13:36:37 i guess m32gb is https://code.launchpad.net/~pali/+junk/maemo_M32GB Aug 02 13:36:43 ^ that Aug 02 13:36:49 also bug Pali for details Aug 02 13:38:31 c3sso, see M32GB Aug 02 13:38:54 copy files from bzr repository to n900 Aug 02 13:39:25 ok Aug 02 13:39:27 Pali: can i untar a backupmenu backup instead of copying stuff? Aug 02 13:39:52 and call ./M32GBinit.sh and then ./M32GBboot.sh Aug 02 13:40:05 Pali: it kinda sucks that you have to make sure to always boot on the secondary bootmenu entry, though Aug 02 13:40:07 kerio, I do not know what backupmenu doing... Aug 02 13:40:16 Pali: just tar Aug 02 13:40:19 :) Aug 02 13:40:44 ok, I will try, thx Aug 02 13:40:46 rootfs in a file, optfs in another Aug 02 13:42:08 Pali: do you reckon there's a way to simply move /usr/ away from the rootfs, instead of having to boot the whole system from mmc? Aug 02 13:42:33 /usr/ must be on rootfs Aug 02 13:42:40 why? :c Aug 02 13:42:51 because maemo use udev too Aug 02 13:43:04 udev needs /usr/lib mounted Aug 02 13:43:54 you don't need udev to mount /usr/ Aug 02 13:44:09 but you need udev in maemo Aug 02 13:44:11 you just need the device file for mmcblk0p1 Aug 02 13:44:22 without udev maemo is not working Aug 02 13:44:28 Pali: sure, so launch it after you mount /usr/ Aug 02 13:44:32 and without /usr/lib udev is not working Aug 02 13:44:36 i mean, i realize that it has to be done *really* ealry Aug 02 13:44:37 early Aug 02 13:45:16 Pali: the thing is, the whole root on emmc requires a lot of changes in the boot process Aug 02 13:45:38 you can move maemo to eMMC/SD card, then patch kernel to boot from mmcblkX and you will not use mtd rootfs Aug 02 13:45:39 you need to boot with a different bootmenu entry, for instance Aug 02 13:46:25 my sdcard is 2x 4gb ext2 partitions, is that ok? Aug 02 13:47:05 Pali: meh, maemo sucks :c Aug 02 13:47:35 c3sso, that scripts copy maemo system to /home/maemo5 Aug 02 13:47:40 to eMMC not to SD card Aug 02 13:47:59 but you can modify it for SD card Aug 02 13:48:39 you need to patch genfstab (that which generate /etc/fstab) to have some /home and /opt entires Aug 02 13:48:58 Pali: can't you use a different /home and /opt? Aug 02 13:49:01 (and copy those too, ofc) Aug 02 13:49:02 and you need to patch rcS-late to not try rootfs / opt / home from eMMC Aug 02 13:49:28 I do not remember what was needed to patch Aug 02 13:49:40 but M32GB scripts for eMMC working Aug 02 13:51:15 Pali: by the way, your script doesn't disable the various optifications Aug 02 13:51:17 is that intended? Aug 02 13:51:23 (apart from the libraries) Aug 02 13:51:40 it copy also /opt it is ok Aug 02 13:51:50 it mount bind /opt Aug 02 13:52:32 Pali: if i wanted to do something like that, i'd keep the systems completely separate, actually Aug 02 13:52:58 so maemo5/home and maemo5/opt would just be directories Aug 02 13:56:20 ther is mount bind /home/opt /opt Aug 02 13:56:33 Pali: yeah Aug 02 13:56:49 but if i decided to put the rootfs on emmc, i wouldn't enable that Aug 02 13:56:52 i would make my own /opt Aug 02 13:56:58 i mean, a new /opt Aug 02 13:57:00 and a new /home too Aug 02 13:57:28 so the original system would be left untouched, apart from kernel modules and bootmenu+bootmenu entries Aug 02 13:57:46 so there would be no confusion if i accidentally booted off the standard system Aug 02 13:59:19 as long as my n900 works again - my flash memory is corrupted... Aug 02 13:59:51 but I am now using the n900 of a friend to get a working rootfs Aug 02 14:00:12 now I wanted to copy that to sd Aug 02 14:00:36 but internal eMMC is ok, too Aug 02 14:01:18 can I just copy over /home/maemo5? Aug 02 14:01:41 keep in mind there's some weird limitation of number of partitions kernel can handle on mmc Aug 02 14:01:51 DocScrutinizer05: it's the same amount of partitions Aug 02 14:02:04 c3sso: sure, how are you accessing the emmc? Aug 02 14:02:14 total number of partitions I guess that is Aug 02 14:02:15 bootmenu has usb mass storage support i think Aug 02 14:03:15 the mmc driver has to detect *all* partitions on a mmc, so you could mount mmcblk1p14 which you actually can't afaik Aug 02 14:03:43 I think 8 partitions is max Aug 02 14:04:14 I can boot my n900 when I reflash it, so I can get the /home/maemo from the one of my friend via network I suppose Aug 02 14:04:37 ...so why do you think the flash memory is corrupted? Aug 02 14:05:59 I get io errors, afer second boot, the icons are gone etc Aug 02 14:08:16 eeew :( Aug 02 14:08:20 sorry for you Aug 02 14:08:32 anyway, if you have a properly working n900, use that as the basis of your new system Aug 02 14:08:33 damn reconnects Aug 02 14:08:39 i would use backupmenu, anyway Aug 02 14:08:47 DocScrutinizer05: I get io errors, afer second boot, the icons are gone etc Aug 02 14:09:00 aaah that one Aug 02 14:09:04 I remember Aug 02 14:09:22 c3sso: you're assuming that the emmc works fine Aug 02 14:10:42 well, it seems so, at least I could to my backups Aug 02 14:10:44 I heard of a few broken/borked eMMC, never heard of a broken NAND so far Aug 02 14:11:16 well I also did not find much Aug 02 14:11:36 btw what became of our deliberate unvoluntary NANDtester guinea pig? Aug 02 14:12:00 he ever came back reporting if CAL can get restored? Aug 02 14:13:08 having everything on sd card would be the way I wanted to go... but fanoush's method did not work out, it simply did not boot... Aug 02 14:14:08 well, you basically can't boot from uSD card (afaik) you at very least need a uBoot in /dev/mtd0 Aug 02 14:14:17 kernel partition of NAND Aug 02 14:14:41 I followed http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=444600&postcount=45 Aug 02 14:14:56 with bootmenu .. Aug 02 14:15:22 so from there you could switch to uSD aka mmcblk0(!) and fetch kernel and rootfs from there Aug 02 14:15:36 bootmenu runs in maemo rootfs userland Aug 02 14:16:06 DocScrutinizer05: ! Aug 02 14:16:25 it gets invoked *after* kernel got loaded and init started and /sbin/preinit executed Aug 02 14:16:41 vi_: ??? Aug 02 14:18:19 oh well .. It seems I am a bit undereducated in kernel and boot issues... Aug 02 14:21:12 c3sso: that's what I thought as well, from your descriptions (no offense intended) Aug 02 14:22:54 alas I'm terribly in a hurry, but nevertheless I suggest you get help here from experienced users like vi_ jacekowski ShadowJK etc, and you re-evaluate your problem first, only THEN project a solution Aug 02 14:28:37 honestly to me that (breaks on second boot) sounds like your auto-optification fails Aug 02 14:28:59 which means the basic problem is with your eMMC, not NAND Aug 02 14:29:00 I wanto pull the source of packages, this one have worked before: "apt-get source package_name" Aug 02 14:29:44 Do I need to fill in the deb-src list by hand, or what? Aug 02 14:33:33 that, or git, or brake the phone. any hint, whats most amusing? Aug 02 14:34:13 Hello world! Aug 02 14:45:13 Made a post on the forum. Aug 02 14:49:33 hmm, I would continue with my wl1251-cal work but as of now no-one else seems to be interested in it. There is little point in reverse engineering this if no-one else will actually do anything with it beyond maybe throwing it into CSSU. Aug 02 14:50:25 Has anyone played around with python-location? (http://wiki.maemo.org/PyMaemo/Using_Location_API) Aug 02 14:50:57 Running the sample script I get terrible accuracy Aug 02 14:51:14 I wanto rewrite the fmradio (so I can use a bug outside ordinary fm range) Aug 02 14:51:33