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Aug 20 03:01:50 <FIQ|n900> ok
Aug 20 03:01:51 <FIQ|n900> ty
Aug 20 03:04:26 <FIQ|n900> is mA supposed to be negative?
Aug 20 03:04:46 <FIQ|n900> i.e. -300ish
Aug 20 03:11:18 <jonwil> mA being negative indicates current drain
Aug 20 03:11:23 <jonwil> i.e. how much current the phone is using
Aug 20 03:11:29 <jonwil> if its charging, mA should be positive
Aug 20 06:22:23 <DocScrutinizer05> actually it just means current in or out of battery. When you got it plugged to charger, it doesn't really tell anything about phone consumption
Aug 20 06:23:38 <DocScrutinizer05> except when battery is discharging while on charger, you can tell phone consumes more power than charging circuit can deliver. This usually results in according notifier warning about the fact
Aug 20 06:25:19 <jonwil> hopefully whatever wierdness happened earlier doesn't indicate any kind of problem with my phone or battery
Aug 20 06:25:43 <jonwil> as of now its fully charged and seems to be staying at maximum bars in the battery indicator
Aug 20 06:26:08 <DocScrutinizer05> e.g. connecting N900 to an unpowered USB hub will result in 100mA from USB (worst case) which almost certainly will be less than what N900 consumes -> battery discharging despite plugged to USB and allegedly "charging"
Aug 20 06:26:49 <jonwil> how it got all the way down to "empty enough that it booted into blank-screen-emergency-charge-mode" in such a short space of time is a real WTF though
Aug 20 06:27:08 <DocScrutinizer05> jonwil: stopping and restarting bme quite usually results in completely bogus and too low battery charge indicator
Aug 20 06:27:40 <jonwil> well I certainly did not do that
Aug 20 06:27:44 <jonwil> stop or restart BME that is
Aug 20 06:27:59 <DocScrutinizer05> this however shouldn't result in shutdown and for sure not in emergency-charge
Aug 20 06:29:17 <DocScrutinizer05> well, batteries that are "original" (means, like 3 years old now) may actually wear out meanwhile
Aug 20 06:31:27 <jonwil> well if I see anything else wierd happening, I will dig deeper but for now it looks fine
Aug 20 06:31:29 <jonwil> :)
Aug 20 06:31:59 <DocScrutinizer05> bq27200.sh 5 >>mybatlog.txt ;-)
Aug 20 06:32:18 <DocScrutinizer05> err
Aug 20 06:32:24 <DocScrutinizer05> bq27200.sh 60 >>mybatlog.txt ;-)
Aug 20 06:39:29 <DocScrutinizer05> *maybe* even a script in /etc/init.d/ (plus links to runlevels) doing "exec >>/var/log/batlog.txt; echo "######## `date` restarting #######"; /path/to/bq27200.sh 60"
Aug 20 06:42:46 <DocScrutinizer05> btw http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/
Aug 20 06:43:41 <DocScrutinizer05> and http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/local/sbin/
Aug 20 07:15:06 <DocScrutinizer05> btw anybody used http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/sbin/start-hostmode ?
Aug 20 08:33:10 <kerio> DocScrutinizer05: in theory, pali's usbmode does everything you might want, wrt host mode
Aug 20 08:33:18 <kerio> with kp51r1
Aug 20 08:33:36 <kerio> but it requires the weird bq24k module
Aug 20 08:34:50 <kerio> i think it works fine for vboosting, though
Aug 20 08:54:05 <DocScrutinizer05> so what?
Aug 20 08:54:34 <kerio> so why would i use that script? :)
Aug 20 08:54:55 <DocScrutinizer05> maybe bacause it's been around since 6 months now?
Aug 20 08:56:11 <kerio> k
Aug 20 08:56:19 <DocScrutinizer05> maybe because you could debug and tweak it easily
Aug 20 08:56:59 <DocScrutinizer05> aand maybe because it does things pali's bq24150.ko definitely can't do
Aug 20 08:57:19 <kerio> really? :o
Aug 20 08:59:56 <DocScrutinizer05> starting with the obvious fact it's a script and thus an "executable"
Aug 20 09:00:54 <DocScrutinizer05> so _my_script_ might use i2c-tools or alternatively bq24150.ko, but that wouldn't change the need of a script 
Aug 20 09:01:05 <chem|st> re
Aug 20 09:01:09 <kerio> usbmode.sh is a shellscript too :)
Aug 20 09:01:12 <DocScrutinizer05> hey chem|st
Aug 20 09:01:16 <chem|st> DocScrutinizer05: what could I?
Aug 20 09:01:29 <DocScrutinizer05> hmm?
Aug 20 09:01:42 <chem|st> 10 days ago...
Aug 20 09:01:49 <chem|st> was on vacation
Aug 20 09:01:55 <DocScrutinizer05> nfc ;-)
Aug 20 09:02:18 <chem|st> fine ;)
Aug 20 09:02:39 <DocScrutinizer05> my wetware recorder replays "nobody can do anything about it" "or could you, chem|st?"
Aug 20 09:02:51 <DocScrutinizer05> probably sth about tmo
Aug 20 09:04:05 <DocScrutinizer05> heavy spamming or sth
Aug 20 09:09:44 <DocScrutinizer05> chem|st: hope you enjoyed your vacation
Aug 20 09:10:01 <chem|st> I did indeed!
Aug 20 11:53:01 <JION_a> nokia ovi suite will not let me reflash my frim where from the ovi program from nokia what can i do?
Aug 20 11:53:20 <JION_a> on the NOKIA N900
Aug 20 11:53:53 <JION_a> i can not seem to lock on to wifi
Aug 20 12:00:46 <andre__> JION_a, what is a "frim"?
Aug 20 12:01:05 <JION_a> frim ware
Aug 20 12:01:18 <JION_a> os build
Aug 20 12:03:37 <andre__> firmware.
Aug 20 12:03:52 <JION_a> firmware
Aug 20 12:03:54 <JION_a> yes
Aug 20 12:04:40 <andre__> see https://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware
Aug 20 12:07:47 <JION_a> thanks
Aug 20 12:47:23 <DocScrutinizer51> ~weather eddn
Aug 20 12:47:26 <infobot> Nuernberg, Germany; (EDDN) 49-30N 011-03E 318M; last updated: 2012.08.20 1220 UTC; Dew Point: 60 F (16 C); Heat index: 95.2 F (35.1 C); Pressure (altimeter): 30.06 in. Hg (1018 hPa); Relative Humidity: 32%; Temperature: 95 F (35 C); Visibility: greater than 7 mile(s); Wind: from the W (270 degrees) at 6 MPH (5 KT)
Aug 20 12:49:29 <StyXman> 35!
Aug 20 16:21:22 <Estel_> freemangordon, ping
Aug 20 16:21:34 <freemangordon> Estel_: pong
Aug 20 16:22:08 <Estel_> see query, pls
Aug 20 17:38:48 <Raimu> Did anyone ever write a n900 app for manipulating contacts on the SIM card?
Aug 20 17:39:52 <Raimu> The stock apps can only import from SIM, and I searched tmo only to pick up some two ancient threads where the answer was "Nokia didn't write the app, needed to get the n900 out quick".
Aug 20 17:51:03 <kgu> ~cssu new release
Aug 20 17:51:16 <kgu> ~cssu
Aug 20 17:51:17 <infobot> somebody said cssu was http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU
Aug 20 17:53:20 <kerio> Raimu: why bother?
Aug 20 17:53:46 <kerio> it's going to be painful to make one that works
Aug 20 18:25:28 <Raimu> I was mainly curious.
Aug 20 18:34:51 <kgu> Is it possible to see a list somewhere of work in progress for next cssu release?
Aug 20 19:32:48 <merlin1991> kgu: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu
Aug 20 19:32:58 <merlin1991> (if you're talking about -testing)
Aug 20 20:08:53 <DocScrutinizer06> Raimu: see what pnsatd and AT commands can give you
Aug 20 20:08:58 <DocScrutinizer06> pnatd
Aug 20 20:09:00 <DocScrutinizer06> sorry
Aug 20 20:12:04 <DocScrutinizer06> Raimu: sorry, forget it, modem doesn't support:
Aug 20 20:12:08 <DocScrutinizer06> at+cpbs=?
Aug 20 20:12:09 <DocScrutinizer06> ERROR
Aug 20 20:12:11 <DocScrutinizer06> at+cpbr=?
Aug 20 20:12:12 <DocScrutinizer06> ERROR
Aug 20 20:14:32 <Raimu> :|
Aug 20 21:11:57 <DocScrutinizer06> GAN950: ping
Aug 20 21:12:55 <DocScrutinizer06> Raimu: get a nice USB smartcard-reader, and H-E-N ;-)
Aug 20 21:14:45 <Raimu> Or just dig up the old Symbian Nokia from my cupboard.
Aug 20 21:14:52 <Raimu> Thanks for helping, Doc!
Aug 20 21:16:32 <DocScrutinizer06> YW, though my help was rather disappointing
Aug 20 21:17:27 * DocScrutinizer06 curses abyssmal sparse AT implementation in ISI/BB5
Aug 20 21:18:54 <DocScrutinizer06> and even android suppliers were able to disclose their RIL implementations, Nokia was never willing to really disclose the ISI specs
Aug 20 21:20:11 <DocScrutinizer06> there's been that friggin docs you could access only after registering and somebody fingering your body appertures, but even that server is down since years now
Aug 20 21:21:38 <DocScrutinizer06> wirelessmodemapi
Aug 20 21:21:59 <DocScrutinizer06> another big hoax
Aug 20 21:22:45 <DocScrutinizer06> www.wirelessmodemapi.com
Aug 20 21:24:06 <DocScrutinizer06> probably somebody rooted the box 2 years ago, and nobody of the responsibles ever noticed nor did anything to fix the issue
Aug 20 21:25:01 <DocScrutinizer06> the future of maemo.org?
Aug 20 21:26:37 <vi__> DocScrutinizer06: what is the future?
Aug 20 21:27:04 <vldcnst> I'm having some issues with cutetube-qml (latest) and IPv6 - getting forbidden errors, anyone else encountered this?
Aug 20 21:27:04 <DocScrutinizer06> click on the link above, and you'll see?
Aug 20 21:29:32 <DocScrutinizer06> errr, there's some known issue with some lib
Aug 20 21:29:36 <DocScrutinizer06> ask merlin1991
Aug 20 21:29:40 <DocScrutinizer06> or freemangordon
Aug 20 21:30:31 <DocScrutinizer06> dunno if it's related to your particular problem
Aug 20 21:31:36 <Estel_> vi__, DocScrutinizer06 was probably reffering to discussion in maemo-ssu channel
Aug 20 21:31:47 <DocScrutinizer06> hmm?
Aug 20 21:31:56 <DocScrutinizer06> nope
Aug 20 21:32:25 <DocScrutinizer06> not directly at least
Aug 20 21:32:29 <DocScrutinizer06> maybe inspired
Aug 20 21:35:00 <Estel_> why you think wirelessmodeapi is future of maemo.org? 0_o
Aug 20 21:36:25 <Estel_> it's about "page not found"?:P
Aug 20 21:43:34 <vldcnst> merlin1991, freemangordon: ping
Aug 20 21:46:22 <vi__> vldcnst: that and PR0NTUBE NO LONGER WORKS.
Aug 20 21:47:42 <vldcnst> vi__: indeed
Aug 20 21:48:00 <freemangordon> vldcnst: pong
Aug 20 21:49:12 <vldcnst> freemangordon: getting HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden from youtube while trying to play a video with cutetube-qml (latest version) over IPv6, DocScrutinizer* mentioned that you may, I believe, be able to know something about this
Aug 20 21:52:12 <freemangordon> vldcnst: WFM, I can bet it is again libcurl3, wait for next CSSU-T, it should be fixed there. 
Aug 20 21:55:01 <Estel_> freemangordon, abusing Your presence here - could You, please, tell me what is current state of latest files for 720p video playback?
Aug 20 21:55:11 <Estel_> ages ago I asked about it in it's thread, without answer
Aug 20 21:55:21 <vldcnst> freemangordon: do you have more info on the actual issue?
Aug 20 21:55:22 <freemangordon> didn't check that
Aug 20 21:55:35 <Estel_> |I'm quite lost - You've mentione,d once, regressions with latest harmattan dsp libs, so I haven't updated
Aug 20 21:55:38 <Estel_> it was mooonths ago
Aug 20 21:55:47 <Estel_> how does it look now, which versions should be used?
Aug 20 21:56:08 <Estel_> ones from first post, or what? :)
Aug 20 21:56:45 <freemangordon> vldcnst: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12621
Aug 20 21:56:46 <povbot_> 04Bug 12621: sharing-plugin-facebook stopped working
Aug 20 21:57:07 <freemangordon> Estel_: you have some problem or what?
Aug 20 21:57:27 <freemangordon> with current versions that is.
Aug 20 21:57:50 <Estel_> hm, no, it's just that I'm not sure if I'm using correct version with lattest goddies :) Well, from time to time, it screws first video recordere, but no problem above that
Aug 20 21:57:59 <Estel_> (first as in first after rerboot)
Aug 20 21:58:25 <vldcnst> freemangordon: not sure I follow that, you're saying libcurl connects to a IPv4 host instead of a IPv6?
Aug 20 21:58:36 <Estel_> it's jsut that I'm confused about current state - I remember You uploading new lib from harmattan, then, mentioning that it had some regressions (serious ones)
Aug 20 21:58:41 <Estel_> I just lost track
Aug 20 21:59:00 <freemangordon> Estel_: anyway, once I finish REing touch keyboard I will return for a while to 720p. But don;t hold your breath :)
Aug 20 21:59:17 <Estel_> OK :) BTW, why? you lost interest in 720p?
Aug 20 21:59:46 <Estel_> so, current info and links in 1st post of 720p are absolutely up to date and contain latest thing one should install?
Aug 20 22:00:11 <freemangordon> Estel_: because there are only 24x7 in a week and I cannot spend all of them programming for maemo ;)
Aug 20 22:00:27 <freemangordon> Estel_: yes
Aug 20 22:00:29 <Estel_> You can, you're FMG! :P sure, no problem :)
Aug 20 22:01:12 <freemangordon> vldcnst: read the IRC log, there is nothing I can add :)
Aug 20 22:01:12 <Estel_> don't forget, that i'm not demanding anything, and i'm very grateful for what You've done already :)
Aug 20 22:01:28 <freemangordon> anyway, I need to take some rest, bb guys
Aug 20 23:47:05 <pavlz> hi
Aug 20 23:47:36 <pavlz> i would like toknow if it's available x-term for android
Aug 20 23:53:33 <aidy> hi
Aug 20 23:57:21 <aidy> I'm having some unmet dependency issues: http://pastebin.com/RGdFra4K
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