**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Sep 20 02:59:58 2012
Sep 20 03:44:42 <jacekowski> ~flatbattery
Sep 20 03:44:46 <jacekowski> ~flatbatt
Sep 20 03:44:49 <jacekowski> ~flatbattrecover
Sep 20 03:44:50 <jacekowski> hmmm
Sep 20 07:14:52 <luf> Hello I have a problem that I can't reach backupmenu. I installed it using apt-get install backupmenu (1.2.0-1). I see onlu Boot menu (with Maemo 5 from NAND and Power off) when boot with open keyboard. What am I doing wrong?
Sep 20 07:15:40 <luf> I'm using kernel KP50: 2.6.28.10-power50
Sep 20 07:28:37 <DocScrutinizer05> sounds like bootmenu messed up backupmenu
Sep 20 07:29:08 <DocScrutinizer05> while actually BM used to abuse bootmenu
Sep 20 07:30:06 <luf> bootmenut was installed as dependency for backupmenu.
Sep 20 07:30:33 <luf> When it didn't work for first time I tried to purge backupmenu and install it once again. No change.
Sep 20 07:30:43 <luf> Any idea how to go through this?
Sep 20 07:32:24 <luf> bootmenu 1.12 Fanoush's Boot Menu; backupmenu 1.2.0-1 BackupMenu is a bootloader-based OS image backup tool.
Sep 20 07:33:02 <DocScrutinizer05> get older version of bootmenu
Sep 20 07:33:26 <DocScrutinizer05> or fix stuff manually, it's just a few scripts
Sep 20 07:33:49 <luf> I prefer manual fix.
Sep 20 07:38:10 <luf> DocScrutinizer05: what do you have in /etc/bootmenu.d/backupmenu.item ?
Sep 20 07:39:13 <DocScrutinizer05> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root           48 Oct 18  2010 /etc/bootmenu.d/backupmenu.item
Sep 20 07:39:15 <DocScrutinizer05> ~ # cat /etc/bootmenu.d/backupmenu.item
Sep 20 07:39:16 <DocScrutinizer05> . /usr/share/backupmenu/BackupMenuLauncher.item
Sep 20 07:41:10 * Arkenoi plays with droid4.. i wish nokia wans't afraid to make bigger phones and bigger keyboards :-(
Sep 20 07:43:29 <DocScrutinizer51> ~ping
Sep 20 07:43:29 <infobot> ~pong
Sep 20 07:52:54 <GGon> hm
Sep 20 07:53:01 <GGon> well... raspi is nice heh
Sep 20 07:53:10 <GGon> at least as a cheap media player
Sep 20 07:58:46 <Flyser> Arkenoi: I wish the droid4 was available in my country :-/
Sep 20 08:01:40 <GGon> a droid 4 is available in any country
Sep 20 08:02:14 <Flyser> I don't think so. I am in germany and I have not seen it anywhere
Sep 20 08:02:51 <GGon> but you can just order one online
Sep 20 08:03:19 <Flyser> Yeah, one that doesn't work with the GSM frequencies here
Sep 20 08:03:32 <GGon> lame
Sep 20 08:03:55 <GGon> droid is only released for verizon isnt it?
Sep 20 08:04:15 <myuu__> well its cdma regardless
Sep 20 08:04:22 <GGon> yah
Sep 20 08:04:30 <GGon> that was my real question
Sep 20 08:04:34 <myuu__> wasnt the droid originally GSM in korea?
Sep 20 08:04:34 <GGon> no gsm droidsa?
Sep 20 08:04:49 <myuu__> i mean i imagine the same thing happened with the droid 4
Sep 20 08:05:06 <GGon> maybe there is a droid with a stamp on it
Sep 20 08:05:30 <luf> Hmmm maybe I see the problem.
Sep 20 08:05:32 <GGon> then again tho... all androids phones are pretty much the same
Sep 20 08:06:01 <luf> bootmenu.sh: [ -f ${initfs_prefix}/etc/bootmenu.conf ] && . ${initfs_prefix}/etc/bootmenu.conf
Sep 20 08:06:02 <Arkenoi> Flyser, it is not in mine, but i do not care as long as there is ebay.
Sep 20 08:06:04 <myuu__> of course GGon there are plenty 
Sep 20 08:06:27 <luf> bootmenu.conf: [ -f ${initfs_prefix}/etc/bootmenu.conf ] && . ${initfs_prefix}/etc/bootmenu.conf
Sep 20 08:06:31 <Arkenoi> Flyser, you can unlock gsm part with special firmware
Sep 20 08:06:59 <myuu__> custom rom?
Sep 20 08:07:04 <myuu__> which are you using btw
Sep 20 08:07:33 <GGon> i thought cdma phones lacked the sim reader
Sep 20 08:07:49 <luf> DocScrutinizer05: it's very different ...
Sep 20 08:08:03 <luf> DocScrutinizer05: what do you have in bootmenu.conf?
Sep 20 08:08:16 <myuu__> well no it def has a sim reader
Sep 20 08:08:22 <myuu__> for international use
Sep 20 08:08:41 <myuu__> ive personally never had good experience with that (then again that was before android)
Sep 20 08:10:02 <Arkenoi> myuu__, I use Verizon's "leaked" official GSM firmware
Sep 20 08:10:10 <Arkenoi> but there is cyanogen as well
Sep 20 08:10:27 <Arkenoi> GGon, it has one, microsim though
Sep 20 08:10:32 <myuu__> ugh
Sep 20 08:10:38 <Arkenoi> because it is not pure CDMA, it is dual standard
Sep 20 08:10:56 <GGon> thats awesome heh
Sep 20 08:14:26 <GGon> http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/19/travel/mobile-airport-travel-apps/index.html?hpt=hp_c1
Sep 20 08:22:09 <luf> Fuck. The problem is I need gnu find in /usr/bin/ due to updatedb ... But it doesn't work during boot.
Sep 20 08:25:19 <luf> WTF why there is find + for used this way?
Sep 20 08:25:20 <luf> STR=`/usr/bin/find /etc/bootmenu.d/ -name \*.item`
Sep 20 08:25:20 <luf> if  [ ! -z "$STR" ]; then
Sep 20 08:25:20 <luf> 	for bootmenu_item in /etc/bootmenu.d/*.item
Sep 20 08:25:20 <luf> ...
Sep 20 08:25:20 <luf>         done
Sep 20 08:25:20 <luf> fi
Sep 20 08:25:57 <StyXman> find is recursive, but I'm not sure it's relevant in this case
Sep 20 08:28:24 <fizzie> The "for bootmenu_item in /etc/bootmenu.d/*.item", assuming there are no matching files, will still run the loop once, with bootmenu_item set to the string "/etc/bootmenu.d/*.item"; I suppose it's guarding for that.
Sep 20 08:28:54 <fizzie> (Rather messy, though.)
Sep 20 08:28:55 <luf> fizzie: Yeah. I see.
Sep 20 08:48:15 <luf> Wow I imagine that someone fix the updatedb + busybox find so I can put back the link /usr/bin/find to busybox.
Sep 20 08:48:54 <luf> However /usr from definition shouldn't be accessible during boot. That's the reason we have (had) in unix /bin and /usr/bin ...
Sep 20 08:50:34 <luf> Ok backupmenu is working for me now. Thanks all for help.
Sep 20 09:47:30 <DocScrutinizer51> luf: LOL
Sep 20 09:50:10 <DocScrutinizer51> luf: yes, I prposed a "fix" for updatedb
Sep 20 09:50:56 <DocScrutinizer51> luf: all your script text quotes same time scraed me and made me ROTFL
Sep 20 09:51:17 <DocScrutinizer51> seems somebody messed up bootmenu FUBAR
Sep 20 09:51:42 <DocScrutinizer51> luf: sorry, @work, can't help
Sep 20 09:51:45 <DocScrutinizer51> bbl
Sep 20 11:00:38 <cityLights> is anyone here from copenhagen?
Sep 20 11:43:08 <GGon> yeah... for $35 this raspi isn't bad at all
Sep 20 11:44:19 <deepy> How did you get yours?
Sep 20 12:12:18 <kerio> ohai deepy
Sep 20 12:12:24 <kerio> sup
Sep 20 13:15:01 <SpeedEvil> to a degree.
Sep 20 13:15:18 <SpeedEvil> it works well as a box doing routy things.
Sep 20 13:15:31 <SpeedEvil> don't expect desktop type performance.
Sep 20 13:34:07 <teotwaki> deepy: I bought mine from one of my colleagues. Paid exactly 4 beers for it.
Sep 20 13:35:10 <deepy> Fair enough
Sep 20 13:35:13 <deepy> I'm waiting for mine to ship
Sep 20 15:38:48 <geotec> hallo pple! I am trying to compile p51 from scratch... cause i need to have CONFIG_AEABI=y and CONFIG_OABI_COMPAT=Y and CONFIG_ARM_THUMB=y (in order to get and older etch chroot working with a needed toolchaing glibc 2.3.2) - Question: Why i fail compiling inside scratchbox with "/scratchbox/compilers/cs2007q3-glibc2.5-arm7/bin/sbox-arm-none-linux-gnueabi-strip: Unable to recognise the format of the input file `debian/kernel-power-heade
Sep 20 15:38:55 <geotec> ?
Sep 20 15:41:03 <geotec> here is the output http://pastebin.com/e0uETWfg
Sep 20 16:12:12 <rzr> ZogG_laptop: are there any left ?
Sep 20 16:40:31 <ZogG_laptop> rzr: any what?
Sep 20 17:18:14 <DocScrutinizer51> Health Level 7  anybody?
Sep 20 17:18:51 <DocScrutinizer51> (v2 only ;-D)
Sep 20 17:19:21 <DocScrutinizer51> DICOM?
Sep 20 18:13:07 <Lava_Croft> so, did facebook completely break for n900?
Sep 20 18:13:19 <Lava_Croft> a in, the im account support
Sep 20 18:13:22 <Lava_Croft> as in*
Sep 20 18:32:59 <Skry> So I've understood. Dont use it though so hard to say for sure.
Sep 20 18:35:21 <kerio> Lava_Croft: huh?
Sep 20 18:35:28 <kerio> the IM account support is... jabber
Sep 20 18:35:34 <kerio> at least, the one i have
Sep 20 18:36:18 <Skry> wasnt it like, im works but anything else does not?
Sep 20 18:36:24 <kerio> probably
Sep 20 20:42:44 <user_> compcache rulez.
Sep 20 21:27:43 <luf> Is somewhere app for N900 which show me what is broadcasted on cell broadcast channels?
Sep 20 21:28:40 <luf> I'm curious what our operators (CZE) are sending ... so I can choose the right channel for Operator Name Widget.
Sep 20 21:33:41 <nox-> http://techcrunch.com/2012/09/20/swiss-federal-railways-accuses-apple-of-copying-its-railway-clock-design-for-ipad-clock-app/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Techcrunch+%28TechCrunch%29
Sep 20 21:58:12 <DocScrutinizer05> luf: maemo.clud-7.de
Sep 20 21:58:21 <DocScrutinizer05> cloud even
Sep 20 21:58:53 <DocScrutinizer05> lemme pick that lil fancy for you
Sep 20 22:00:10 <luf> DocS: I don't understand ...
Sep 20 22:00:13 <DocScrutinizer05> http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/local/bin/smscb.py (needs a tiny patch to neuter the channel filter)
Sep 20 22:01:11 <luf> Hmmm I see.
Sep 20 22:01:15 <DocScrutinizer05> luf: and you want patched libsms.so from CSSU-T
Sep 20 22:01:39 <DocScrutinizer05> (ships with new opername widget)
Sep 20 22:01:41 <DocScrutinizer05> iirc
Sep 20 22:02:36 <luf> I have CSSU-T 5.1 already.
Sep 20 22:02:52 <luf> I upgraded today to be honest :D
Sep 20 22:03:05 <DocScrutinizer05> (neuter filter) or did I already provide something to print *all* channels?
Sep 20 22:04:24 <luf> DocScrutinizer05: it would be better to have something what prints all channels :D
Sep 20 22:05:34 <DocScrutinizer05>  if channel == "":
Sep 20 22:05:37 <DocScrutinizer05> ;-)
Sep 20 22:06:03 <DocScrutinizer05> elif channel == fromchannel:
Sep 20 22:06:26 <DocScrutinizer05> just don't give --channel=222
Sep 20 22:06:40 <luf> DocScrutinizer05: another question to channels. Right now I see some info but it's blinks (the info is showed for one minute then it disappear for several seconds and then showed again for random time).
Sep 20 22:06:55 <luf> What is channel 222?
Sep 20 22:07:00 <DocScrutinizer05> random
Sep 20 22:07:27 <DocScrutinizer05> 221 is gauss-wegener coords on German O2
Sep 20 22:08:13 <luf> Why the info from Operator Name Widget isn't displayed permanently?
Sep 20 22:08:16 <luf> Any idea?
Sep 20 22:08:34 <DocScrutinizer05> umm, not really. well...
Sep 20 22:09:07 <DocScrutinizer05> maybe it clears info on cell handover now, and then has to wait until new cell sends broadcast again
Sep 20 22:09:27 <luf> It changes two states: "O2 - CZ" and "O2 -CZ some info"
Sep 20 22:09:55 <luf> Ok. I'm surprised it changes cells so often. But it should be ... thanks for the info.
Sep 20 22:10:11 <DocScrutinizer05> tail <logfiles> ;)
Sep 20 22:10:16 <DocScrutinizer05> tail -f even
Sep 20 22:10:45 <luf> What logfiles?
Sep 20 22:10:52 <DocScrutinizer05> opername logfiles
Sep 20 22:12:41 <luf> :) That doesn't help me a lot. Where can I find opername logfiles?
Sep 20 22:18:05 <peetah> luf: /home/user/opername.log
Sep 20 22:19:06 <DocScrutinizer05> and another one with similar name and path
Sep 20 22:19:26 <DocScrutinizer05> and you have to enable lagging
Sep 20 22:19:29 <DocScrutinizer05> logging
Sep 20 23:10:13 <luf> Thank guys. Time to go to the bed. Bye.
Sep 21 02:08:45 <iluminator105> how do you turn on front facing camera at all times on n900?
Sep 21 02:11:20 <SpeedEvil> umm... what?
Sep 21 02:11:30 <SpeedEvil> little uses the front can
Sep 21 02:12:42 <iluminator105> for surveillance 
Sep 21 02:19:03 <iluminator105> ?
Sep 21 02:22:18 <iluminator105> permission to pm DocScrutinizer05 
Sep 21 02:22:35 <iluminator105> permission to pm DocScrutinizer51 i meant
Sep 21 02:24:53 <SpeedEvil> there probably isn't software to do this. of wouldn't be hard thouh,.
Sep 21 02:25:37 <iluminator105> how do you just turn on front facing camera
Sep 21 02:26:56 <SpeedEvil> read the right /dev/video device
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